Orca does not speak

[Linux for blind general discussion]

This is not convincing, Didier.

Note my example of Control Alt Delete. We always call that restart. We
never call it replace. It also gives us an entire new set of pids, even
for the same apps.

If I'm reading some text file with less and kill it with Control C, I
can restart the same app reading the same file by pressing up arrow and
enter. We always call that a restart.

Apps are restarted in standard English usage. They're not replaced.

Janina

Linux for blind general discussion writes:
> Hello Janina,
> 
> technically your screen reader is a process in RAM, communicating
> with other processes, like at-spi and speech-dispatcher.
> 
> Typing "orca -r", you kill this process (i.e., you remove it from
> the RAM), and you replace it with a new one.
> 
> Here is an example.
> 
> In the a terminal I type this command:
> 
> didier[~]$ ps -C orca
>   PID TTY          TIME CMD
> 26823 tty1     00:00:34 orca
> 
> In the output, PID is the process identifier.
> 
> Then, I press Alt+F2 and type orca -r
> 
> After that:
>   PID TTY          TIME CMD
>   394 tty1     00:00:00 orca
> didier[~]$ 
> 
> 
> So the previous process disappeared and we have a new one.
> 
> So technically, it is indeed a replacement, not a restart:
> I replaced a screen reader by a new one.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Didier
> 
> 
> On 15/01/2019 08:02, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
> > I rely on "orca -r" quite a bit, actually. There are any number of
> > conditions that can silence a running Orca that can be quickly remedied
> > that way. Guess I never noticed I stood for "replace," and the
> > juxtaposition of "screen-reader" really threw me. Replace my screen
> > reader? With what?
> > 
> > Best,
> > 
> > Janina
> > 
> > Linux for blind general discussion writes:
> >> For what it's worth, I'd agree --restart would be more intuitive and
> >> self-documenting from the perspective of a native English speaker
> >> assuming there isn't already a --restart switch that does something
> >> different. That said, it's ultimately the developer's decision, it's
> >> hardly the most esoteric command-line switch in existence, and
> >> honestly, I'm kind of surprised a graphical application would even
> >> have such a function built-in to its command-line syntax.
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Blinux-list mailing list
> >> Blinux-list at redhat.com
> >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
> > 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Blinux-list mailing list
> Blinux-list at redhat.com
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list

-- 

Janina Sajka

Linux Foundation Fellow
Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup:	http://a11y.org

The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI)
Chair, Accessible Platform Architectures	http://www.w3.org/wai/apa