anyone, any luck with browsh www.brow.sh

[Linux for blind general discussion]

Disappointing. Thanks for sharing Willem.


Best,


Fernando



On 03/14/2019 02:28 AM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
> Hi,
> See the message below from a colleague of mine.
> In short, browsh is a waist of time for us, but see below.
> It looked like a nice idea though.
> Kind regards, Willem
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2019 14:40:41 +0200
> From: Rynhardt Kruger <rynkruger at gmail.com>
> To: Willem van der Walt <wvdwalt at csir.co.za>
> Subject: Re: anyone, any luck with browsh www.brow.sh
>
> Hi Willem,
>
> I had a quick look at Browsh and it appears to use UTF-8 tricks to
> render the page directly from Firefox's representation of the page. It
> can, for instance, show videos using the same method.
> Reading the go source code, it seams that very few keystrokes are
> actually handled by browsh. The docs mention that up and down arrows
> scroll the page, suggesting that Firefox handles the focus and sutch.
> Presumably the focus is then rendered incidentally by Browsh along
> with the rest of the page, I.E., browsh itself doesn't know where the
> focus is.
> In fact, I suspect that one is actually supposed to click links with
> the mouse. I had a bit more luck with the html client of Browsh, i.e.
> running it with --http-server-mode. One can then use something like
> Elinks to view the page, and click on links etc.
> One could probably patch the Firefox extention used by browsh to
> communicate the focus position along with the page contents, and then
> Browsh could move the cursor to that position. However, another
> problem I've found is that, because of the way Browsh scrapes the
> screen from Firefox, pages in Browsh are not really structured in an
> accessible way. For instance, the Youtube homepage as viewed with
> Browsh contains a quite inaccessible table with all the trending
> videos, with playing time arranged above the name of each video etc.
> The names of the videos are also not rendered fully by Browsh,
> presumably the resolution of the text console is too small. In
> contrast, when visiting the youtube homepage with Firefox and Orca,
> the accessible view that one gets is quite different, since Orca reads
> the logicle structure of the page rather than the rendered screen from
> the browser. With Orca, one doesn't get a table at all, since there's
> actually no table in the html. In stead, one gets a nice list of
> trending videos, each with it's playing time beneath. Each video is
> also tagged as a heading, making it easier to navigate. It appears as
> a table on the screen because of the stilesheet applyed to the page.
>
> Regards,
>
> Rynhardt
>
> On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 5:51 PM Linux for blind general discussion
> <blinux-list at redhat.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>> I tried browsh, but I think it is emulating a cursor and not using the
>> standard tty cursor.
>> I do not know the go language in which browsh is written at all.
>> I did grab the git repo and had a listen through some of the source 
>> code.
>> No mention of readline or ncursus or anything like that there .
>>    Does anyone know of a way to track the browsh cursor using speakup or
>> sutch?
>> TIA, Willem
>>
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