Prospects for an accessible and open version of Android?

Linux for blind general discussion blinux-list at
Thu Jun 25 14:45:31 UTC 2020

Another handy thing with optical drives is that one may hear if a drive is being used.
As handy as u s b drives are, they are silent.

> On Jun 25, 2020, at 7:15 AM, Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list at> wrote:
> I certainly wasn't suggesting you aren't entitled to your preferences. I
> was simply pointing out the rest of the world has left optical media in
> the dust. Good luck finding optical drives as default equipment anywhere
> in today's mainstream kartplace. you might want them, but most of the
> rest of us have moved on.
> PS: What's so hard about burning an iso to disk? I might expect that
> kind of complaint on a Windows or Mac list, but I don't get that
> complaint here on a Linux list. What's so hard about:
> wodim source-file.iso destination.device.designator
> How much easier can life be?
> Best,
> Janina
> Linux for blind general discussion writes:
>> And even if I was comfortable writing ISOs to thumbdrives(I'm not, and
>> it's not like I'm likely to run out of DVD+R anytime soon so there's
>> little incentive to learn when I've got a bash script that automates
>> the process of burning a disc), I also prefer to buy physical media
>> whenever possible and make my own rips, especially since most legal
>> download avenues are either using mp3 like it's the 90s or have their
>> files DRM'd to hell and back and only compatible with the brands of
>> device they approve of, so not having to hook up an external drive
>> every time I buy a new album would be nice.
>> Still, when I actually get around to replacing this ancient HP of
>> mine, I want to buy a machine who's boot sequence is friendly to doing
>> clean installs and running Live environments out of the box and I have
>> to go out of my way to make booting from removable media harder, not
>> one where it boots from the hard drive all the time and I have to go
>> out of my way to enable bootting from other media. Sadly, I get the
>> impression the latter is industry standard these days.
>> And for what it's worth, my desktop prior to my current HP was one of
>> System76's Celeron-based towers... I think it was like vintage 07 or
>> 08 and succumbed to bulging capacitors somewhere around 12 or 13... my
>> HP is about twice the age that System 76 machine was when it died, but
>> my experience is also that HP's are some of the longest lasting
>> machines on the market(My family's first XP machine was an HP that
>> lasted over a decade in a house with multiple smokers, mold and mildew
>> issues, and being kept in a family room with a leaky ceiling(it had to
>> be moved several times thanks to being rained on). The HP I currently
>> have was a gift my state's Division of Services for the Blind, and HP
>> is easily my favorite of the major PC brands, but my one past
>> experience with System 76 was a good one and I wouldn't mind buying
>> one of their machines if I had the money to spare.
>> As for SBL, I'm not sure it's actually maintained. At least, I don't
>> think the version number of what ships with Knoppix has changed in
>> years. Fortunately, things don't change much in the console, so it's
>> enough that a mature text-mode screen reader continues to work and be
>> available unlike how Orca has to play whack-a-mole with every little
>> quirk added with each new version of Chromium, Firefox, and
>> Thunderbird(or at least, it seems like the vast majority of bug
>> reports on the Orca mailing list are due to something that changed in
>> one of those three).
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> The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI)
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