Want to try a GUI. Which one is best?
Linux for blind general discussion
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Sun Mar 1 18:07:30 UTC 2020
The most useful approach for accessibility users unless they use a mouse
is to install startx and ratpoison and then have ratpoison run which
brings up startx and startx then brings up mate. The ratpoison is a
package which when you get it working makes startx accessible more so
than it already is.
On Sun, 1 Mar 2020, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
> Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2020 13:02:51
> From: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list at redhat.com>
> To: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list at redhat.com>
> Subject: Re: Want to try a GUI. Which one is best?
> This is really something debian does not provide. Archlinux that can be
> done with installing a few of the correct packages and I don't remember
> the list now didn't save it in braille. Now, with slint you can do all
> of that and that's one of the installation choices. Slint doesn't have
> gnome either but does have mate.
> https://slint.fr/ is the first url and search the page for accessibility
> and read what you find.
> On Sun, 1 Mar 2020, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
> > Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2020 12:30:57
> > From: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list at redhat.com>
> > To: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list at redhat.com>
> > Subject: Re: Want to try a GUI. Which one is best?
> > Hello,
> > Thanks for all your suggestions. I have Debian Buster, command-line only. I may just wait until the next Debian testing is available and see if they include Mate.
> > I
> > will be using brltty, and no speech.
> > This leaves one concern in my original message for discussion. I want Debian to boot into the command-line, but I want to have a command or script for starting
> > the GUI when I need it.
> > Thanks,
> > John J. Boyer <john.boyer at abilitiessoft.org>
> > On Sun, Mar 01, 2020 at 01:54:07PM +0000, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
> > > Best I can tell, Mate 1.24 is currently available in both Debian
> > > Testing(aka Bull's Eye which will eventually become Debian 11) and
> > > Debian Unstable(aka Sid).
> > >
> > > It's unlikely something as big as a new version of Mate will make it
> > > into Debian 9 aka Stretch or oldstable or Debian 10 aka Buster or
> > > Stable as Debian priortizes stability over cutting edge, though it
> > > might make it into backports(more likely for Buster than for Stretch,
> > > but I confess to not knowing how long Debian supports Oldstable when a
> > > new Stable is released).
> > >
> > > That said, while Orca, the primary, and possibly only, graphical
> > > screen reader for Linux, is officially part of Gnome and persumably
> > > optimized for that environment, and probably works so well with Mate
> > > due to Mate's origins as a Gnome fork(as I understand it, Gnome 3
> > > brought many controversial changes to look and feel and Mate startedas
> > > a way to keep the Gnome 2.x look and feel in an updated environment),
> > > Orca should, in theory, be able to work with any GTK-based Desktop
> > > Environment or Window Manager, though anything QT-based(KDE chief
> > > among them) is currently a bit hit or miss.
> > >
> > > Gnome or Mate might be the best options for a beginner as they're the
> > > most well documented DEs for using them with Orca, but Knoppix using a
> > > combination of LXDE and Orca when launching a full Desktop seems to
> > > work well, and I've heard people have had success with the ratpoison
> > > window Manager.
> > >
> > >
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