FYI: PinePhone community edition for Manjaro

Linux for blind general discussion blinux-list at
Wed Sep 2 00:49:22 UTC 2020

Would be good to know when you get the device I was wanting to get one 
my self but wasn't sure of the options for accessibility.

On 31-Aug-20 21:21, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>> Someone asked:
>> What does the OS look like?
> Erm, it's complicated?
> # Background
> Most Linux systems are going to run the X Window System (aka X11) or some descendant
> such as Wayland.  However, this mostly defines "mechanism, not policy".  So, each app
> (including the window system) gets to decide how to lay out its portions of the screen.
> This begs the question "What portion(s) of the screen does an app own?"  It varies,
> but AFAIK each app normally pretends that it owns zero or more rectangular areas, on
> some screen or screens.  In reality, most window systems use overlapping windows, so
> portions of the underlying windows may be obscured from the sighted user.  However,
> the app typically ignores such considerations; it's up to the user to make sure that
> they don't hide critical information.  Window systems are a bit special; they own a
> set of rectangles corresponding to the physical screens, minus the portions taken up
> by the subsidiary apps.
> The appearance of each app's area, in any event, is up to the app and the libraries
> it uses.  More to the point to a blind user, however, is the fact that most apps use
> the libraries to define the behavior of common widgets.  I presume that typical screen
> readers interact with these widgets; does anyone here know some details about this?
> Finally, some apps (such as web browsers) use internal forms of interpretation that
> a screen reader can access.  So, for example, it might get information from CSS,
> HTML, and perhaps JavaScript.
> # Options
> Any major Linux variant (e.g., Alpine, Arch, Debian) will support a variety of window
> systems.  Descendant variants may also add their own; for example's Phosh (for
> "phone shell") is quite popular among mobile Linux operating systems.  That said, most
> variants will have some default standards; other window systems may receive less care.
> So, for example, Official Editions of Manjaro include Architect, Gnome, KDE, and XFCE.
> Community Editions include Awesome, bspwm, Budgie, Cinnamon, Deepin, i3, LXDE, LXQt,
> MATE, and Openbox.
> All told, however, Manjaro supports 13 (!) "Desktop Environments and Window Managers (
> Awesome, Budgie, Cinnamon, Deepin, Enlightenment, Gnome, i3, KDE, LXDE, LXQt, MATE,
> Openbox, XFCE.  I've heard good things about MATE's accessibility, but I'm not any
> sort of expert.
>> Does it have swiping gestures or how is the setup?
> Given the number of options cataloged above, the best answer may be "it depends".  In
> any case, this isn't a question I can answer.
> Rich Morin (rdm at
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