Attempting a Jenux install, again.

Tue Dec 14 12:59:58 UTC 2021

ell there's a history of posts as far as Jenux breaking with people way 
more qualified than me digging through the code and having things break 
on their installs. I've personally had Jenux corrupt a flash drive to 
the point it's a glorified paprweight due to shenanigans with writing to it.

That being said. Now Arch itself has the guided mode installer, which is 
perfectly useable with espeakup and that once installed, as of this 
month auto enables speech/braille at the end of the install, I'd argue 
Arch are doing a better job at making their systems accessible* than 
people assume though. I;d also say okay, Arch has a guided installer 
that works** and if booted with accessibility on, keeps those settings 
and gives you a working (base, mind) system out of the box.

* Provided you install alsa-utils/espeakup as per a normal accessibility 
Arch install. There's a step in the guided installer where it asks for 
extra packages, that's where you plug alsa-utils/espeakup in. 
espeakup.service gets auto enabled at the end of the install as part of 
the installer

** Works, as long as you're okay with a base install but getting a DE up 
and running isn't that bad really once you did the install. I've not got 
the desktop ones to work currently but still poking at it. I'm tempted 
to add in orca-speech-dispatcher and so forth into the extra packages step.

at that however.

On 12/14/21 12:46, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
> Hi,
>
>
> I did use the latest as of about 15 hours ago. I did also verify the iso.
>
>
> The issue this time is that after running the installer and rebooting, 
> nothing spoke. the seeingAI on the iphone could read the screen just 
> fine, but I couldn't
>
>
> Last time it was orca in Mate that didn't want to come on, no matter 
> what I do.
>
>
> I found that with Jenux, never expect the same thing to go wrong 
> twice, however something will break.
>
>
> Warm regards,
>
>
> Brandt
>
> On 2021/12/14 14:31, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>> Jenux gets regular updates latest is 2021.11.17 unless that changed 
>> today.
>> Did you verify your iso download?  If I find an .sha512 file file for an
>> iso, I won't install the iso without first verifying it with the .sha512
>> file.  So two potential problems not using current Jenux install iso or
>> failed to verify iso.  If you don't have those two problems, please 
>> write
>> dnl.nash at gmail.com and let him know the problem you encountered on your
>> install fail.  That one is the developer.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 14 Dec 2021, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>>
>>> Jenux failed on me, again. I think I'll give it a skip for now, that 
>>> is unless
>>> the dev actually fixes the thing.
>>>
>>>
>>> I am on Fedora, for now, because it was the nearest Usb stick I 
>>> could grab
>>> quickly.
>>>
>>>
>>> I might just give the vanilla Arch ISO another go. Why not?
>>>
>>> On 2021/12/14 13:05, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>>>>   or Manjaro Architect.
>>>>
>>>> Personally. I've had success with the vanilla Arch ISO and the guided
>>>> installer (the archinstall one), I just set it to boot up talking, 
>>>> went
>>>> through it and added in alsa-utils/espeakup and then put
>>>> speech-dispatcher/Orca/voices and a window manager on once the 
>>>> system was
>>>> installed.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Jenux has never really worked for me on a VM or bare metal at all, 
>>>> whereas
>>>> the official arch ISO is working rather well, and I dunno if the 
>>>> Architect
>>>> edition is 36/64 bit or 32bit only or 64bit only. Admittedly, I've 
>>>> got a
>>>> 64bit UEFI system so the official ISo works flawlessly on it 
>>>> however, but
>>>> YMMV on that oneYes, but you probably don't want to hear it if you 
>>>> are set
>>>> on using Jenux however.
>>>>
>>>> On 12/14/21 09:18, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> I decided to give Jenux another go, last time, no matter what I 
>>>>> tried, I
>>>>> couldn't get orca to come on after logging in to the system.
>>>>>
>>>>> Does anyone have any advice?
>>>>>
>>>>> Also, if this doesn't work out, is there a guide for doing a Manjaro
>>>>> architect install? "Manjaro Talking" got updated a little while 
>>>>> ago, and
>>>>> if, as I said, Jenux doesn't work out, I'd like to give that one a 
>>>>> go.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks so long.
>>>>>
>>>>> Warm regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Brandt Steenkamp
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my MacBook Air
>>>>>
>>>>> Contact:
>>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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