Attempting a Jenux install, again.

Tue Dec 14 23:29:57 UTC 2021

Hi,

Is this guided installer part of the arch iso?  If so, how do you get it 
going??  I would like to give this a test and see how this works.

Matthew

On 12/14/2021 7:59 AM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
> ell there's a history of posts as far as Jenux breaking with people 
> way more qualified than me digging through the code and having things 
> break on their installs. I've personally had Jenux corrupt a flash 
> drive to the point it's a glorified paprweight due to shenanigans with 
> writing to it.
>
> That being said. Now Arch itself has the guided mode installer, which 
> is perfectly useable with espeakup and that once installed, as of this 
> month auto enables speech/braille at the end of the install, I'd argue 
> Arch are doing a better job at making their systems accessible* than 
> people assume though. I;d also say okay, Arch has a guided installer 
> that works** and if booted with accessibility on, keeps those settings 
> and gives you a working (base, mind) system out of the box.
>
>
> * Provided you install alsa-utils/espeakup as per a normal 
> accessibility Arch install. There's a step in the guided installer 
> where it asks for extra packages, that's where you plug 
> alsa-utils/espeakup in. espeakup.service gets auto enabled at the end 
> of the install as part of the installer
>
>
> ** Works, as long as you're okay with a base install but getting a DE 
> up and running isn't that bad really once you did the install. I've 
> not got the desktop ones to work currently but still poking at it. I'm 
> tempted to add in orca-speech-dispatcher and so forth into the extra 
> packages step.
>
>
> at that however.
>
>
> On 12/14/21 12:46, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>>
>> I did use the latest as of about 15 hours ago. I did also verify the 
>> iso.
>>
>>
>> The issue this time is that after running the installer and 
>> rebooting, nothing spoke. the seeingAI on the iphone could read the 
>> screen just fine, but I couldn't
>>
>>
>> Last time it was orca in Mate that didn't want to come on, no matter 
>> what I do.
>>
>>
>> I found that with Jenux, never expect the same thing to go wrong 
>> twice, however something will break.
>>
>>
>> Warm regards,
>>
>>
>> Brandt
>>
>> On 2021/12/14 14:31, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>>> Jenux gets regular updates latest is 2021.11.17 unless that changed 
>>> today.
>>> Did you verify your iso download?  If I find an .sha512 file file 
>>> for an
>>> iso, I won't install the iso without first verifying it with the 
>>> .sha512
>>> file.  So two potential problems not using current Jenux install iso or
>>> failed to verify iso.  If you don't have those two problems, please 
>>> write
>>> dnl.nash at gmail.com and let him know the problem you encountered on your
>>> install fail.  That one is the developer.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, 14 Dec 2021, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Jenux failed on me, again. I think I'll give it a skip for now, 
>>>> that is unless
>>>> the dev actually fixes the thing.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I am on Fedora, for now, because it was the nearest Usb stick I 
>>>> could grab
>>>> quickly.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I might just give the vanilla Arch ISO another go. Why not?
>>>>
>>>> On 2021/12/14 13:05, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>>>>>   or Manjaro Architect.
>>>>>
>>>>> Personally. I've had success with the vanilla Arch ISO and the guided
>>>>> installer (the archinstall one), I just set it to boot up talking, 
>>>>> went
>>>>> through it and added in alsa-utils/espeakup and then put
>>>>> speech-dispatcher/Orca/voices and a window manager on once the 
>>>>> system was
>>>>> installed.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Jenux has never really worked for me on a VM or bare metal at all, 
>>>>> whereas
>>>>> the official arch ISO is working rather well, and I dunno if the 
>>>>> Architect
>>>>> edition is 36/64 bit or 32bit only or 64bit only. Admittedly, I've 
>>>>> got a
>>>>> 64bit UEFI system so the official ISo works flawlessly on it 
>>>>> however, but
>>>>> YMMV on that oneYes, but you probably don't want to hear it if you 
>>>>> are set
>>>>> on using Jenux however.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 12/14/21 09:18, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I decided to give Jenux another go, last time, no matter what I 
>>>>>> tried, I
>>>>>> couldn't get orca to come on after logging in to the system.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Does anyone have any advice?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also, if this doesn't work out, is there a guide for doing a Manjaro
>>>>>> architect install? "Manjaro Talking" got updated a little while 
>>>>>> ago, and
>>>>>> if, as I said, Jenux doesn't work out, I'd like to give that one 
>>>>>> a go.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks so long.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Warm regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Brandt Steenkamp
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from my MacBook Air
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Contact:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Phone: +27 (0)60 525 9181 <tel://+27605259181>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Email: brandt.steenkamp at gmail.com 
>>>>>> <mailto:brandt.steenkamp at gmail.com>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Twitter: @brandtsteenkamp <http://www.twitter.com/brandtsteenkamp>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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