Attempting a Jenux install, again.

Wed Dec 15 00:06:45 UTC 2021

Once you boot the ISO with speech (which is down once on the boot menu, 
so just down and enter then wait), and it logs you in and you get the 
root at archiso prompt just type archinstall and it'll do a connection test 
then come up with the guided installer.

99% of it is intuitive. I've not got around to testing the install 
option for desktops. I personally go with a base instal  and customize 
my system as needed, but YMMV on that one. The only bit that tripped me 
up was the region selection (second step) and the disk selection since 
that changed to where you select your disk, then don't select anything 
to continue. It walks you through the steps one at a time, and if you 
know how to install Arch accessibly, the extra packages step is the same 
as pacstrap.

Few things to note:

1. It auto enables espeakup if it's installed (I usually install it out 
of habit)

2. I'm not sure of the keys to shut espeakup off however...

And the big, big one. The last I checked, November. It only workd on 
UEFI machines /but/ that might have been changed. I honestly don't know 
if it's working on legacy BIOS machines

Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
> Hi,
>
>
> Is this guided installer part of the arch iso?  If so, how do you get 
> it going??  I would like to give this a test and see how this works.
>
>
> Matthew
>
>
>
> On 12/14/2021 7:59 AM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>> ell there's a history of posts as far as Jenux breaking with people 
>> way more qualified than me digging through the code and having things 
>> break on their installs. I've personally had Jenux corrupt a flash 
>> drive to the point it's a glorified paprweight due to shenanigans 
>> with writing to it.
>>
>> That being said. Now Arch itself has the guided mode installer, which 
>> is perfectly useable with espeakup and that once installed, as of 
>> this month auto enables speech/braille at the end of the install, I'd 
>> argue Arch are doing a better job at making their systems accessible* 
>> than people assume though. I;d also say okay, Arch has a guided 
>> installer that works** and if booted with accessibility on, keeps 
>> those settings and gives you a working (base, mind) system out of the 
>> box.
>>
>>
>> * Provided you install alsa-utils/espeakup as per a normal 
>> accessibility Arch install. There's a step in the guided installer 
>> where it asks for extra packages, that's where you plug 
>> alsa-utils/espeakup in. espeakup.service gets auto enabled at the end 
>> of the install as part of the installer
>>
>>
>> ** Works, as long as you're okay with a base install but getting a DE 
>> up and running isn't that bad really once you did the install. I've 
>> not got the desktop ones to work currently but still poking at it. 
>> I'm tempted to add in orca-speech-dispatcher and so forth into the 
>> extra packages step.
>>
>>
>> at that however.
>>
>>
>> On 12/14/21 12:46, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>>
>>> I did use the latest as of about 15 hours ago. I did also verify the 
>>> iso.
>>>
>>>
>>> The issue this time is that after running the installer and 
>>> rebooting, nothing spoke. the seeingAI on the iphone could read the 
>>> screen just fine, but I couldn't
>>>
>>>
>>> Last time it was orca in Mate that didn't want to come on, no matter 
>>> what I do.
>>>
>>>
>>> I found that with Jenux, never expect the same thing to go wrong 
>>> twice, however something will break.
>>>
>>>
>>> Warm regards,
>>>
>>>
>>> Brandt
>>>
>>> On 2021/12/14 14:31, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>>>> Jenux gets regular updates latest is 2021.11.17 unless that changed 
>>>> today.
>>>> Did you verify your iso download?  If I find an .sha512 file file 
>>>> for an
>>>> iso, I won't install the iso without first verifying it with the 
>>>> .sha512
>>>> file.  So two potential problems not using current Jenux install 
>>>> iso or
>>>> failed to verify iso.  If you don't have those two problems, please 
>>>> write
>>>> dnl.nash at gmail.com and let him know the problem you encountered on 
>>>> your
>>>> install fail.  That one is the developer.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, 14 Dec 2021, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Jenux failed on me, again. I think I'll give it a skip for now, 
>>>>> that is unless
>>>>> the dev actually fixes the thing.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I am on Fedora, for now, because it was the nearest Usb stick I 
>>>>> could grab
>>>>> quickly.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I might just give the vanilla Arch ISO another go. Why not?
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2021/12/14 13:05, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>>>>>>   or Manjaro Architect.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Personally. I've had success with the vanilla Arch ISO and the 
>>>>>> guided
>>>>>> installer (the archinstall one), I just set it to boot up 
>>>>>> talking, went
>>>>>> through it and added in alsa-utils/espeakup and then put
>>>>>> speech-dispatcher/Orca/voices and a window manager on once the 
>>>>>> system was
>>>>>> installed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jenux has never really worked for me on a VM or bare metal at 
>>>>>> all, whereas
>>>>>> the official arch ISO is working rather well, and I dunno if the 
>>>>>> Architect
>>>>>> edition is 36/64 bit or 32bit only or 64bit only. Admittedly, 
>>>>>> I've got a
>>>>>> 64bit UEFI system so the official ISo works flawlessly on it 
>>>>>> however, but
>>>>>> YMMV on that oneYes, but you probably don't want to hear it if 
>>>>>> you are set
>>>>>> on using Jenux however.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 12/14/21 09:18, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I decided to give Jenux another go, last time, no matter what I 
>>>>>>> tried, I
>>>>>>> couldn't get orca to come on after logging in to the system.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Does anyone have any advice?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Also, if this doesn't work out, is there a guide for doing a 
>>>>>>> Manjaro
>>>>>>> architect install? "Manjaro Talking" got updated a little while 
>>>>>>> ago, and
>>>>>>> if, as I said, Jenux doesn't work out, I'd like to give that one 
>>>>>>> a go.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks so long.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Warm regards,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Brandt Steenkamp
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sent from my MacBook Air
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Contact:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Phone: +27 (0)60 525 9181 <tel://+27605259181>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Email: brandt.steenkamp at gmail.com 
>>>>>>> <mailto:brandt.steenkamp at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Twitter: @brandtsteenkamp <http://www.twitter.com/brandtsteenkamp>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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