A question about Fenrir on Arch linux

Fri May 21 10:36:02 UTC 2021

Howdy

> I have espeak, sox, and xclip installed, plus pulseaudio, 
> pulseaudio-alsa, alsa-utils and plugins. 
espeak-ng is used by default instead of espeak. espeak-ng is the 
successor of espeak. do take care to not install espeak but espeak-ng 
and give another shot :).


Am 21.05.21 um 11:47 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion:
> Hello there,
>
>
> Just for the heck of it, I redid a clean install of arch with 
> pulseaudio this time, and I configured everything I needed running the 
> sh script you indicated.
>
> It half works, and half doesn't.
>
> What I mean by that is that when I restarted the machine, just a few 
> seconds ago and ran fenrir as sudoer, it played the sound icon, thing 
> that with pipewire didn't happen, but gave me no speech at all.
>
> I have espeak, sox, and xclip installed, plus pulseaudio, 
> pulseaudio-alsa, alsa-utils and plugins.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> Thanks again.
>
> Best regards.
>
> Francisco.
>
> On 5/18/21 5:06 PM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>> Howdy,
>>
>> do you have the requirements for the generic sound / voice drivers 
>> installed?
>> To get sure, reinstall it execute:
>> sudo pacman -S sox espeak-ng xclip
>>
>> sox is used for play sound, espeak for voice output in the default 
>> configuration, xclip is a funny toy to let fenrir share the clipboard 
>> between your GUI and Terminal.
>>
>> start fenrir for testing in foreground - you can stop it using CTRL + C
>> sudo fenrir
>>
>> did you hear the startup sound? fenrir plays a little soundicon at 
>> startup.
>>
>> if not, then pulseaudio is not configured.
>> short story execute:
>> # configure user
>> /usr/share/fenrirscreenreader/tools/configure_pulse.sh
>> # configure root
>> sudo /usr/share/fenrirscreenreader/tools/configure_pulse.sh
>>
>> # need to restart that the configuration for both get active
>>
>> restart
>>
>> then retry
>>
>> sudo fenrir
>>
>> long storry: fenrir needs by default to run as root to collect the 
>> data on your screen or caputre the input devices. if fenrir speaks or 
>> creates sound, it does this as root user. you wont hear sound of an 
>> other user by pulseaudio (sound server) design. We need to transport 
>> the sound created as root to the sound server you have running as 
>> user to finally hear the sound.
>>
>> fenrir provides 2 scripts (see above) to configure the root puse 
>> audio to send the data to your user and configure user pulse audio to 
>> listen to the sound sent by root and play it.
>>
>> cheers chrys
>>
>>
>> 18.05.21 um 14:46 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion:
>>
>>> Hello there,
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks so much, now, that part of the problem is solved!
>>>
>>> The other part, how ever, that is not solved, is that fenrir doesn't 
>>> speak with espeak, or espeak-ng.
>>>
>>> Do I have to set something somewhere for that to happen?
>>>
>>> Thanks again.
>>>
>>> Best regards.
>>>
>>> Francisco.
>>>
>>> On 5/18/21 10:24 AM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>>>> Howdy Francisco,
>>>>
>>>> i dont know why those libs are not an dependency by 
>>>> python-pyenchant if those are spread warnings. Maybe this should be 
>>>> reported to the package maintainer. But anyway.
>>>>
>>>> you can ask pacman what package contains the specific file you need 
>>>> by "sudo pacman -Fy filename". here i did this for for example in 
>>>> libvokko.so:
>>>>
>>>> 10:14 [chrys at blackbeast ~] :) $ sudo pacman -Fy libvoikko.so
>>>> [sudo] Passwort für chrys:
>>>> :: Synchronisiere Paketdatenbanken...
>>>>  core 903,5 KiB  6,17 MiB/s 00:00 
>>>> [#########################################################################] 
>>>> 100%
>>>>  extra 9,3 MiB  26,9 MiB/s 00:00 
>>>> [#########################################################################] 
>>>> 100%
>>>>  community 22,8 MiB  29,6 MiB/s 00:01 
>>>> [#########################################################################] 
>>>> 100%
>>>>  multilib 222,5 KiB  12,8 MiB/s 00:00 
>>>> [#########################################################################] 
>>>> 100%
>>>> extra/libvoikko 4.3.1-1
>>>>     usr/lib/libvoikko.so
>>>> 10:15 [chrys at blackbeast ~] :) $
>>>>
>>>> so the package you need for libvokko.so is "libvoikko"
>>>> to silence out all the warnings do this:
>>>> sudo pacman -S libvoikko nuspell hspell
>>>>
>>>> this install all 3 (IMO optional dependency's, what should not 
>>>> create a warning, but well, it is like it is)
>>>>
>>>> i use irssi as IRC (commandline) client. there is also Pidgin (as 
>>>> graphical client). both are very nice.
>>>>
>>>> looking forward to see you in IRC :).
>>>>
>>>> cheers chrys
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Am 18.05.21 um 08:57 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion:
>>>>> Hello there,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I managed to install one of the libraries, but not the other two, 
>>>>> so thanks for that.
>>>>>
>>>>> Also, thanks for suggesting to use yay, I just installed it, I 
>>>>> didn't know yaourt was deprecated.
>>>>>
>>>>> My question now is, and this'll be dum, what are recommended IRC 
>>>>> clients? how do I get them working? what should I know before 
>>>>> joining an IRC channel, what ever it might be?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks again.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards.
>>>>>
>>>>> Francisco.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 5/17/21 9:19 PM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>>>>>> Hi, I just posted a link to this message intended to chrys 
>>>>>> (Fenrir author) on the #a11y channel of irc.linux-a11y.org.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Maybe join him there?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Didier
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Le 17/05/2021 à 20:15, Linux for blind general discussion a écrit :
>>>>>>> Hello everyone,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I just downloaded fenrir-git from the AUR using yaourt.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> When I try to run fenrir with the command
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> fenrir
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> in a terminal, how ever, i get fenrir's startup sound, and this:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [francisco at Blueblink ~]$ fenrir
>>>>>>> ** (process:7008): WARNING **: 20:12:45.374: Error loading 
>>>>>>> plugin: libhspell.so.
>>>>>>> 0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
>>>>>>> ** (process:7008): WARNING **: 20:12:45.374: Error loading 
>>>>>>> plugin: libvoikko.so.
>>>>>>> 1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
>>>>>>> ** (process:7008): WARNING **: 20:12:45.377: Error loading 
>>>>>>> plugin: libnuspell.so
>>>>>>> .4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Any ideas on how to fix it, and no speech either.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank you for any answer.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best regards.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Francisco.
>>>>>>>
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