A question about Fenrir on Arch linux

Fri May 21 11:38:30 UTC 2021

Hello there,

removing espeak doesn't fix it, the same problem still persists.

Best regards.

Francisco.

On 5/21/21 12:36 PM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
> Howdy
>
>> I have espeak, sox, and xclip installed, plus pulseaudio, 
>> pulseaudio-alsa, alsa-utils and plugins. 
> espeak-ng is used by default instead of espeak. espeak-ng is the 
> successor of espeak. do take care to not install espeak but espeak-ng 
> and give another shot :).
>
>
> Am 21.05.21 um 11:47 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion:
>> Hello there,
>>
>>
>> Just for the heck of it, I redid a clean install of arch with 
>> pulseaudio this time, and I configured everything I needed running 
>> the sh script you indicated.
>>
>> It half works, and half doesn't.
>>
>> What I mean by that is that when I restarted the machine, just a few 
>> seconds ago and ran fenrir as sudoer, it played the sound icon, thing 
>> that with pipewire didn't happen, but gave me no speech at all.
>>
>> I have espeak, sox, and xclip installed, plus pulseaudio, 
>> pulseaudio-alsa, alsa-utils and plugins.
>>
>> Any suggestions?
>>
>> Thanks again.
>>
>> Best regards.
>>
>> Francisco.
>>
>> On 5/18/21 5:06 PM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>>> Howdy,
>>>
>>> do you have the requirements for the generic sound / voice drivers 
>>> installed?
>>> To get sure, reinstall it execute:
>>> sudo pacman -S sox espeak-ng xclip
>>>
>>> sox is used for play sound, espeak for voice output in the default 
>>> configuration, xclip is a funny toy to let fenrir share the 
>>> clipboard between your GUI and Terminal.
>>>
>>> start fenrir for testing in foreground - you can stop it using CTRL + C
>>> sudo fenrir
>>>
>>> did you hear the startup sound? fenrir plays a little soundicon at 
>>> startup.
>>>
>>> if not, then pulseaudio is not configured.
>>> short story execute:
>>> # configure user
>>> /usr/share/fenrirscreenreader/tools/configure_pulse.sh
>>> # configure root
>>> sudo /usr/share/fenrirscreenreader/tools/configure_pulse.sh
>>>
>>> # need to restart that the configuration for both get active
>>>
>>> restart
>>>
>>> then retry
>>>
>>> sudo fenrir
>>>
>>> long storry: fenrir needs by default to run as root to collect the 
>>> data on your screen or caputre the input devices. if fenrir speaks 
>>> or creates sound, it does this as root user. you wont hear sound of 
>>> an other user by pulseaudio (sound server) design. We need to 
>>> transport the sound created as root to the sound server you have 
>>> running as user to finally hear the sound.
>>>
>>> fenrir provides 2 scripts (see above) to configure the root puse 
>>> audio to send the data to your user and configure user pulse audio 
>>> to listen to the sound sent by root and play it.
>>>
>>> cheers chrys
>>>
>>>
>>> 18.05.21 um 14:46 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion:
>>>
>>>> Hello there,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks so much, now, that part of the problem is solved!
>>>>
>>>> The other part, how ever, that is not solved, is that fenrir 
>>>> doesn't speak with espeak, or espeak-ng.
>>>>
>>>> Do I have to set something somewhere for that to happen?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks again.
>>>>
>>>> Best regards.
>>>>
>>>> Francisco.
>>>>
>>>> On 5/18/21 10:24 AM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>>>>> Howdy Francisco,
>>>>>
>>>>> i dont know why those libs are not an dependency by 
>>>>> python-pyenchant if those are spread warnings. Maybe this should 
>>>>> be reported to the package maintainer. But anyway.
>>>>>
>>>>> you can ask pacman what package contains the specific file you 
>>>>> need by "sudo pacman -Fy filename". here i did this for for 
>>>>> example in libvokko.so:
>>>>>
>>>>> 10:14 [chrys at blackbeast ~] :) $ sudo pacman -Fy libvoikko.so
>>>>> [sudo] Passwort für chrys:
>>>>> :: Synchronisiere Paketdatenbanken...
>>>>>  core 903,5 KiB  6,17 MiB/s 00:00 
>>>>> [#########################################################################] 
>>>>> 100%
>>>>>  extra 9,3 MiB  26,9 MiB/s 00:00 
>>>>> [#########################################################################] 
>>>>> 100%
>>>>>  community 22,8 MiB  29,6 MiB/s 00:01 
>>>>> [#########################################################################] 
>>>>> 100%
>>>>>  multilib 222,5 KiB  12,8 MiB/s 00:00 
>>>>> [#########################################################################] 
>>>>> 100%
>>>>> extra/libvoikko 4.3.1-1
>>>>>     usr/lib/libvoikko.so
>>>>> 10:15 [chrys at blackbeast ~] :) $
>>>>>
>>>>> so the package you need for libvokko.so is "libvoikko"
>>>>> to silence out all the warnings do this:
>>>>> sudo pacman -S libvoikko nuspell hspell
>>>>>
>>>>> this install all 3 (IMO optional dependency's, what should not 
>>>>> create a warning, but well, it is like it is)
>>>>>
>>>>> i use irssi as IRC (commandline) client. there is also Pidgin (as 
>>>>> graphical client). both are very nice.
>>>>>
>>>>> looking forward to see you in IRC :).
>>>>>
>>>>> cheers chrys
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Am 18.05.21 um 08:57 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion:
>>>>>> Hello there,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I managed to install one of the libraries, but not the other two, 
>>>>>> so thanks for that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also, thanks for suggesting to use yay, I just installed it, I 
>>>>>> didn't know yaourt was deprecated.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My question now is, and this'll be dum, what are recommended IRC 
>>>>>> clients? how do I get them working? what should I know before 
>>>>>> joining an IRC channel, what ever it might be?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks again.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best regards.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Francisco.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 5/17/21 9:19 PM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi, I just posted a link to this message intended to chrys 
>>>>>>> (Fenrir author) on the #a11y channel of irc.linux-a11y.org.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Maybe join him there?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Didier
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Le 17/05/2021 à 20:15, Linux for blind general discussion a écrit :
>>>>>>>> Hello everyone,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I just downloaded fenrir-git from the AUR using yaourt.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> When I try to run fenrir with the command
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> fenrir
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> in a terminal, how ever, i get fenrir's startup sound, and this:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> [francisco at Blueblink ~]$ fenrir
>>>>>>>> ** (process:7008): WARNING **: 20:12:45.374: Error loading 
>>>>>>>> plugin: libhspell.so.
>>>>>>>> 0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
>>>>>>>> ** (process:7008): WARNING **: 20:12:45.374: Error loading 
>>>>>>>> plugin: libvoikko.so.
>>>>>>>> 1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
>>>>>>>> ** (process:7008): WARNING **: 20:12:45.377: Error loading 
>>>>>>>> plugin: libnuspell.so
>>>>>>>> .4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Any ideas on how to fix it, and no speech either.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thank you for any answer.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Best regards.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Francisco.
>>>>>>>>
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