A question about Fenrir on Arch linux

Fri May 21 11:43:11 UTC 2021

Hello there,

Sorry, my bad, i forgot to mention that I had already installed it LOL! 
my apologies! I installed it appending it to pacstrap when installing Arch.

Best regards.

Francisco.

On 5/21/21 1:41 PM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
> Howdy,
>
> well removing espeak is not the point :), installing espeak-ng was the 
> main point.
>
> Am 21.05.21 um 13:38 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion:
>> Hello there,
>>
>>
>> removing espeak doesn't fix it, the same problem still persists.
>>
>> Best regards.
>>
>> Francisco.
>>
>>
>> On 5/21/21 12:36 PM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>>> Howdy
>>>
>>>> I have espeak, sox, and xclip installed, plus pulseaudio, 
>>>> pulseaudio-alsa, alsa-utils and plugins. 
>>> espeak-ng is used by default instead of espeak. espeak-ng is the 
>>> successor of espeak. do take care to not install espeak but 
>>> espeak-ng and give another shot :).
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 21.05.21 um 11:47 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion:
>>>> Hello there,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Just for the heck of it, I redid a clean install of arch with 
>>>> pulseaudio this time, and I configured everything I needed running 
>>>> the sh script you indicated.
>>>>
>>>> It half works, and half doesn't.
>>>>
>>>> What I mean by that is that when I restarted the machine, just a 
>>>> few seconds ago and ran fenrir as sudoer, it played the sound icon, 
>>>> thing that with pipewire didn't happen, but gave me no speech at all.
>>>>
>>>> I have espeak, sox, and xclip installed, plus pulseaudio, 
>>>> pulseaudio-alsa, alsa-utils and plugins.
>>>>
>>>> Any suggestions?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks again.
>>>>
>>>> Best regards.
>>>>
>>>> Francisco.
>>>>
>>>> On 5/18/21 5:06 PM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>>>>> Howdy,
>>>>>
>>>>> do you have the requirements for the generic sound / voice drivers 
>>>>> installed?
>>>>> To get sure, reinstall it execute:
>>>>> sudo pacman -S sox espeak-ng xclip
>>>>>
>>>>> sox is used for play sound, espeak for voice output in the default 
>>>>> configuration, xclip is a funny toy to let fenrir share the 
>>>>> clipboard between your GUI and Terminal.
>>>>>
>>>>> start fenrir for testing in foreground - you can stop it using 
>>>>> CTRL + C
>>>>> sudo fenrir
>>>>>
>>>>> did you hear the startup sound? fenrir plays a little soundicon at 
>>>>> startup.
>>>>>
>>>>> if not, then pulseaudio is not configured.
>>>>> short story execute:
>>>>> # configure user
>>>>> /usr/share/fenrirscreenreader/tools/configure_pulse.sh
>>>>> # configure root
>>>>> sudo /usr/share/fenrirscreenreader/tools/configure_pulse.sh
>>>>>
>>>>> # need to restart that the configuration for both get active
>>>>>
>>>>> restart
>>>>>
>>>>> then retry
>>>>>
>>>>> sudo fenrir
>>>>>
>>>>> long storry: fenrir needs by default to run as root to collect the 
>>>>> data on your screen or caputre the input devices. if fenrir speaks 
>>>>> or creates sound, it does this as root user. you wont hear sound 
>>>>> of an other user by pulseaudio (sound server) design. We need to 
>>>>> transport the sound created as root to the sound server you have 
>>>>> running as user to finally hear the sound.
>>>>>
>>>>> fenrir provides 2 scripts (see above) to configure the root puse 
>>>>> audio to send the data to your user and configure user pulse audio 
>>>>> to listen to the sound sent by root and play it.
>>>>>
>>>>> cheers chrys
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 18.05.21 um 14:46 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello there,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks so much, now, that part of the problem is solved!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The other part, how ever, that is not solved, is that fenrir 
>>>>>> doesn't speak with espeak, or espeak-ng.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Do I have to set something somewhere for that to happen?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks again.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best regards.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Francisco.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 5/18/21 10:24 AM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>>>>>>> Howdy Francisco,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> i dont know why those libs are not an dependency by 
>>>>>>> python-pyenchant if those are spread warnings. Maybe this should 
>>>>>>> be reported to the package maintainer. But anyway.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> you can ask pacman what package contains the specific file you 
>>>>>>> need by "sudo pacman -Fy filename". here i did this for for 
>>>>>>> example in libvokko.so:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 10:14 [chrys at blackbeast ~] :) $ sudo pacman -Fy libvoikko.so
>>>>>>> [sudo] Passwort für chrys:
>>>>>>> :: Synchronisiere Paketdatenbanken...
>>>>>>>  core 903,5 KiB  6,17 MiB/s 00:00 
>>>>>>> [#########################################################################] 
>>>>>>> 100%
>>>>>>>  extra 9,3 MiB  26,9 MiB/s 00:00 
>>>>>>> [#########################################################################] 
>>>>>>> 100%
>>>>>>>  community 22,8 MiB  29,6 MiB/s 00:01 
>>>>>>> [#########################################################################] 
>>>>>>> 100%
>>>>>>>  multilib 222,5 KiB  12,8 MiB/s 00:00 
>>>>>>> [#########################################################################] 
>>>>>>> 100%
>>>>>>> extra/libvoikko 4.3.1-1
>>>>>>>     usr/lib/libvoikko.so
>>>>>>> 10:15 [chrys at blackbeast ~] :) $
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> so the package you need for libvokko.so is "libvoikko"
>>>>>>> to silence out all the warnings do this:
>>>>>>> sudo pacman -S libvoikko nuspell hspell
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> this install all 3 (IMO optional dependency's, what should not 
>>>>>>> create a warning, but well, it is like it is)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> i use irssi as IRC (commandline) client. there is also Pidgin 
>>>>>>> (as graphical client). both are very nice.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> looking forward to see you in IRC :).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> cheers chrys
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Am 18.05.21 um 08:57 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion:
>>>>>>>> Hello there,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I managed to install one of the libraries, but not the other 
>>>>>>>> two, so thanks for that.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Also, thanks for suggesting to use yay, I just installed it, I 
>>>>>>>> didn't know yaourt was deprecated.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> My question now is, and this'll be dum, what are recommended 
>>>>>>>> IRC clients? how do I get them working? what should I know 
>>>>>>>> before joining an IRC channel, what ever it might be?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks again.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Best regards.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Francisco.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 5/17/21 9:19 PM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Hi, I just posted a link to this message intended to chrys 
>>>>>>>>> (Fenrir author) on the #a11y channel of irc.linux-a11y.org.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Maybe join him there?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Didier
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Le 17/05/2021 à 20:15, Linux for blind general discussion a 
>>>>>>>>> écrit :
>>>>>>>>>> Hello everyone,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I just downloaded fenrir-git from the AUR using yaourt.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> When I try to run fenrir with the command
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> fenrir
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> in a terminal, how ever, i get fenrir's startup sound, and this:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> [francisco at Blueblink ~]$ fenrir
>>>>>>>>>> ** (process:7008): WARNING **: 20:12:45.374: Error loading 
>>>>>>>>>> plugin: libhspell.so.
>>>>>>>>>> 0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
>>>>>>>>>> ** (process:7008): WARNING **: 20:12:45.374: Error loading 
>>>>>>>>>> plugin: libvoikko.so.
>>>>>>>>>> 1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
>>>>>>>>>> ** (process:7008): WARNING **: 20:12:45.377: Error loading 
>>>>>>>>>> plugin: libnuspell.so
>>>>>>>>>> .4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Any ideas on how to fix it, and no speech either.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thank you for any answer.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Best regards.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Francisco.
>>>>>>>>>>
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