A question about Fenrir on Arch linux

Linux for blind general discussion blinux-list at redhat.com
Fri May 21 17:35:43 UTC 2021


It's a good idea to run all tests in spd-conf and verify all of them work.
If one of or more of them fail, those will be your barriers for now.



On Fri, 21 May 2021, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:

> Hello there,
>
>
> Yes I have run Spd-conf, but no luck. the output module is set to espeak-ng.
>
> Best regards.
>
> Francisco
>
> On 5/21/21 4:17 PM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
> > Have you run spd-conf and selected espeak-ng as your synthesizer for
> > speech-dispatcher?
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 21 May 2021, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
> >
> >> Hello there,
> >>
> >>
> >> removing espeak doesn't fix it, the same problem still persists.
> >>
> >> Best regards.
> >>
> >> Francisco.
> >>
> >>
> >> On 5/21/21 12:36 PM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
> >>> Howdy
> >>>
> >>>> I have espeak, sox, and xclip installed, plus pulseaudio,
> >>>> pulseaudio-alsa,
> >>>> alsa-utils and plugins.
> >>> espeak-ng is used by default instead of espeak. espeak-ng is the successor
> >>> of espeak. do take care to not install espeak but espeak-ng and give
> >>> another
> >>> shot :).
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Am 21.05.21 um 11:47 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion:
> >>>> Hello there,
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Just for the heck of it, I redid a clean install of arch with pulseaudio
> >>>> this time, and I configured everything I needed running the sh script you
> >>>> indicated.
> >>>>
> >>>> It half works, and half doesn't.
> >>>>
> >>>> What I mean by that is that when I restarted the machine, just a few
> >>>> seconds ago and ran fenrir as sudoer, it played the sound icon, thing
> >>>> that
> >>>> with pipewire didn't happen, but gave me no speech at all.
> >>>>
> >>>> I have espeak, sox, and xclip installed, plus pulseaudio,
> >>>> pulseaudio-alsa,
> >>>> alsa-utils and plugins.
> >>>>
> >>>> Any suggestions?
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks again.
> >>>>
> >>>> Best regards.
> >>>>
> >>>> Francisco.
> >>>>
> >>>> On 5/18/21 5:06 PM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
> >>>>> Howdy,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> do you have the requirements for the generic sound / voice drivers
> >>>>> installed?
> >>>>> To get sure, reinstall it execute:
> >>>>> sudo pacman -S sox espeak-ng xclip
> >>>>>
> >>>>> sox is used for play sound, espeak for voice output in the default
> >>>>> configuration, xclip is a funny toy to let fenrir share the clipboard
> >>>>> between your GUI and Terminal.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> start fenrir for testing in foreground - you can stop it using CTRL + C
> >>>>> sudo fenrir
> >>>>>
> >>>>> did you hear the startup sound? fenrir plays a little soundicon at
> >>>>> startup.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> if not, then pulseaudio is not configured.
> >>>>> short story execute:
> >>>>> # configure user
> >>>>> /usr/share/fenrirscreenreader/tools/configure_pulse.sh
> >>>>> # configure root
> >>>>> sudo /usr/share/fenrirscreenreader/tools/configure_pulse.sh
> >>>>>
> >>>>> # need to restart that the configuration for both get active
> >>>>>
> >>>>> restart
> >>>>>
> >>>>> then retry
> >>>>>
> >>>>> sudo fenrir
> >>>>>
> >>>>> long storry: fenrir needs by default to run as root to collect the data
> >>>>> on
> >>>>> your screen or caputre the input devices. if fenrir speaks or creates
> >>>>> sound, it does this as root user. you wont hear sound of an other user
> >>>>> by
> >>>>> pulseaudio (sound server) design. We need to transport the sound created
> >>>>> as root to the sound server you have running as user to finally hear the
> >>>>> sound.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> fenrir provides 2 scripts (see above) to configure the root puse audio
> >>>>> to
> >>>>> send the data to your user and configure user pulse audio to listen to
> >>>>> the
> >>>>> sound sent by root and play it.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> cheers chrys
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 18.05.21 um 14:46 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Hello there,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Thanks so much, now, that part of the problem is solved!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The other part, how ever, that is not solved, is that fenrir doesn't
> >>>>>> speak with espeak, or espeak-ng.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Do I have to set something somewhere for that to happen?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Thanks again.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Best regards.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Francisco.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 5/18/21 10:24 AM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
> >>>>>>> Howdy Francisco,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> i dont know why those libs are not an dependency by python-pyenchant
> >>>>>>> if
> >>>>>>> those are spread warnings. Maybe this should be reported to the
> >>>>>>> package
> >>>>>>> maintainer. But anyway.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> you can ask pacman what package contains the specific file you need by
> >>>>>>> "sudo pacman -Fy filename". here i did this for for example in
> >>>>>>> libvokko.so:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> 10:14 [chrys at blackbeast ~] :) $ sudo pacman -Fy libvoikko.so
> >>>>>>> [sudo] Passwort f?r chrys:
> >>>>>>> :: Synchronisiere Paketdatenbanken...
> >>>>>>>  core 903,5 KiB  6,17 MiB/s 00:00
> >>>>>>> [#########################################################################]
> >>>>>>> 100%
> >>>>>>>  extra 9,3 MiB  26,9 MiB/s 00:00
> >>>>>>> [#########################################################################]
> >>>>>>> 100%
> >>>>>>>  community 22,8 MiB  29,6 MiB/s 00:01
> >>>>>>> [#########################################################################]
> >>>>>>> 100%
> >>>>>>>  multilib 222,5 KiB  12,8 MiB/s 00:00
> >>>>>>> [#########################################################################]
> >>>>>>> 100%
> >>>>>>> extra/libvoikko 4.3.1-1
> >>>>>>>     usr/lib/libvoikko.so
> >>>>>>> 10:15 [chrys at blackbeast ~] :) $
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> so the package you need for libvokko.so is "libvoikko"
> >>>>>>> to silence out all the warnings do this:
> >>>>>>> sudo pacman -S libvoikko nuspell hspell
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> this install all 3 (IMO optional dependency's, what should not create
> >>>>>>> a
> >>>>>>> warning, but well, it is like it is)
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> i use irssi as IRC (commandline) client. there is also Pidgin (as
> >>>>>>> graphical client). both are very nice.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> looking forward to see you in IRC :).
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> cheers chrys
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Am 18.05.21 um 08:57 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion:
> >>>>>>>> Hello there,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I managed to install one of the libraries, but not the other two, so
> >>>>>>>> thanks for that.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Also, thanks for suggesting to use yay, I just installed it, I didn't
> >>>>>>>> know yaourt was deprecated.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> My question now is, and this'll be dum, what are recommended IRC
> >>>>>>>> clients? how do I get them working? what should I know before joining
> >>>>>>>> an IRC channel, what ever it might be?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Thanks again.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Best regards.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Francisco.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On 5/17/21 9:19 PM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> Hi, I just posted a link to this message intended to chrys (Fenrir
> >>>>>>>>> author) on the #a11y channel of irc.linux-a11y.org.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Maybe join him there?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Didier
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Le 17/05/2021 ? 20:15, Linux for blind general discussion a ?crit :
> >>>>>>>>>> Hello everyone,
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> I just downloaded fenrir-git from the AUR using yaourt.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> When I try to run fenrir with the command
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> fenrir
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> in a terminal, how ever, i get fenrir's startup sound, and this:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> [francisco at Blueblink ~]$ fenrir
> >>>>>>>>>> ** (process:7008): WARNING **: 20:12:45.374: Error loading plugin:
> >>>>>>>>>> libhspell.so.
> >>>>>>>>>> 0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
> >>>>>>>>>> ** (process:7008): WARNING **: 20:12:45.374: Error loading plugin:
> >>>>>>>>>> libvoikko.so.
> >>>>>>>>>> 1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
> >>>>>>>>>> ** (process:7008): WARNING **: 20:12:45.377: Error loading plugin:
> >>>>>>>>>> libnuspell.so
> >>>>>>>>>> .4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Any ideas on how to fix it, and no speech either.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Thank you for any answer.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Best regards.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Francisco.
> >>>>>>>>>>
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