A question about Fenrir on Arch linux

Linux for blind general discussion blinux-list at redhat.com
Fri May 28 13:22:46 UTC 2021 

Could it be there's not enough disk space available in tmp any longer?
Maybe check disk space and make largest log files smaller.  trunc 0
filename.log can do this.


On Fri, 28 May 2021, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:

> Howdy,
>
> I just took a look at your debug. It seems to be just stops in the middle of the startup proces. So its invomplete fo some reason.
>
> There are 2 possible reasons for this:
>
> 1. fenrir crashes on startup and stops logging. I find this very unliky as the debugging just stops in the middle of an single huge file write operation. The operating system should at least completely write the buffer to the file.
>
> Or
> 2. most likely, i see the file contains linebreaks what arent part of fenrirs output operations. Also its not fenrirs default file name scheme. So i guess, while try to send the file using mail, the file was opened with an texteditor and you copied it only partial or delete some lines by accident. So some kind of unwanted manipulation.
>
> Can you resend me an complete debug file? When you start fenrir from UI terminal, is there any additional output? Anything what looks like a crash? When you press ctrl + c to stop fenrir, is there an ?stop? sound?
>
> Cheers chrys
>
>
>
> > Am 27.05.2021 um 10:22 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list at redhat.com>:
> >
> > Hello there,
> >
> >
> > I have tried sending this message a cupple of times, but the message body was too big.
> >
> > Because of that, I am trying a Dropbox link.
> >
> > When you click on it, it'll automatically download a file called Fenrir log.txt
> >
> > Here is the link:
> >
> >
> > https://www.dropbox.com/s/xjlxnxkzr3z7s8p/fenrir%20log.txt?dl=1
> >
> >
> > Best regards.
> >
> > Francisco.
> >
> >> On 5/22/21 9:15 AM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
> >> Howdy,
> >>
> >> Configure speech-dispatcher is not needed. By default fenrir uses the generic speech driver. This does  generate speech by suprocessing. So basically same like calling espeak-ng in shell.
> >>
> >> I dont stay at home currently as i help a friend to knock down a wall in his house (thats fun).
> >>
> >> Can you send me a debug file of fenrirs initialisation progress to analyze your issue?
> >>
> >> sudo fenrir -d
> >>
> >> Then press
> >> Ctrl + c
> >>
> >> You find a file /tmp/fenrir<PID>_<timestamp>.log
> >>  Where PID is replaced by process ID and timestamp wit current date. /time
> >>
> >> Still looking forwart to meet you in IRC :D
> >>
> >> Cheers chrys
> >>
> >> Von meinem iPhone gesendet
> >>
> >>>> Am 22.05.2021 um 02:04 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list at redhat.com>:
> >>>
> >>> Hi did you tell speech-dispatcher to use espeak-ng?.  You can change this in etc/speech-dispatcher/speechddccf. Speechddccf HTH.
> >>>
> >>> Matthew
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: blinux-list-bounces at redhat.com <blinux-list-bounces at redhat.com> On Behalf Of Linux for blind general discussion
> >>> Sent: Friday, May 21, 2021 7:39 AM
> >>> To: blinux-list at redhat.com
> >>> Subject: Re: A question about Fenrir on Arch linux
> >>>
> >>> Hello there,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> removing espeak doesn't fix it, the same problem still persists.
> >>>
> >>> Best regards.
> >>>
> >>> Francisco.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> On 5/21/21 12:36 PM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
> >>>> Howdy
> >>>>
> >>>>> I have espeak, sox, and xclip installed, plus pulseaudio,
> >>>>> pulseaudio-alsa, alsa-utils and plugins.
> >>>> espeak-ng is used by default instead of espeak. espeak-ng is the
> >>>> successor of espeak. do take care to not install espeak but espeak-ng
> >>>> and give another shot :).
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> Am 21.05.21 um 11:47 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion:
> >>>>> Hello there,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Just for the heck of it, I redid a clean install of arch with
> >>>>> pulseaudio this time, and I configured everything I needed running
> >>>>> the sh script you indicated.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> It half works, and half doesn't.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> What I mean by that is that when I restarted the machine, just a few
> >>>>> seconds ago and ran fenrir as sudoer, it played the sound icon, thing
> >>>>> that with pipewire didn't happen, but gave me no speech at all.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I have espeak, sox, and xclip installed, plus pulseaudio,
> >>>>> pulseaudio-alsa, alsa-utils and plugins.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Any suggestions?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks again.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Best regards.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Francisco.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 5/18/21 5:06 PM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
> >>>>>> Howdy,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> do you have the requirements for the generic sound / voice drivers
> >>>>>> installed?
> >>>>>> To get sure, reinstall it execute:
> >>>>>> sudo pacman -S sox espeak-ng xclip
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> sox is used for play sound, espeak for voice output in the default
> >>>>>> configuration, xclip is a funny toy to let fenrir share the
> >>>>>> clipboard between your GUI and Terminal.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> start fenrir for testing in foreground - you can stop it using CTRL + C
> >>>>>> sudo fenrir
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> did you hear the startup sound? fenrir plays a little soundicon at
> >>>>>> startup.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> if not, then pulseaudio is not configured.
> >>>>>> short story execute:
> >>>>>> # configure user
> >>>>>> /usr/share/fenrirscreenreader/tools/configure_pulse.sh
> >>>>>> # configure root
> >>>>>> sudo /usr/share/fenrirscreenreader/tools/configure_pulse.sh
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> # need to restart that the configuration for both get active
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> restart
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> then retry
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> sudo fenrir
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> long storry: fenrir needs by default to run as root to collect the
> >>>>>> data on your screen or caputre the input devices. if fenrir speaks
> >>>>>> or creates sound, it does this as root user. you wont hear sound of
> >>>>>> an other user by pulseaudio (sound server) design. We need to
> >>>>>> transport the sound created as root to the sound server you have
> >>>>>> running as user to finally hear the sound.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> fenrir provides 2 scripts (see above) to configure the root puse
> >>>>>> audio to send the data to your user and configure user pulse audio
> >>>>>> to listen to the sound sent by root and play it.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> cheers chrys
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> 18.05.21 um 14:46 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Hello there,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Thanks so much, now, that part of the problem is solved!
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> The other part, how ever, that is not solved, is that fenrir
> >>>>>>> doesn't speak with espeak, or espeak-ng.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Do I have to set something somewhere for that to happen?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Thanks again.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Best regards.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Francisco.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On 5/18/21 10:24 AM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
> >>>>>>>> Howdy Francisco,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> i dont know why those libs are not an dependency by
> >>>>>>>> python-pyenchant if those are spread warnings. Maybe this should
> >>>>>>>> be reported to the package maintainer. But anyway.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> you can ask pacman what package contains the specific file you
> >>>>>>>> need by "sudo pacman -Fy filename". here i did this for for
> >>>>>>>> example in libvokko.so:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> 10:14 [chrys at blackbeast ~] :) $ sudo pacman -Fy libvoikko.so
> >>>>>>>> [sudo] Passwort f?r chrys:
> >>>>>>>> :: Synchronisiere Paketdatenbanken...
> >>>>>>>> core 903,5 KiB  6,17 MiB/s 00:00
> >>>>>>>> [#########################################################################]
> >>>>>>>> 100%
> >>>>>>>> extra 9,3 MiB  26,9 MiB/s 00:00
> >>>>>>>> [#########################################################################]
> >>>>>>>> 100%
> >>>>>>>> community 22,8 MiB  29,6 MiB/s 00:01
> >>>>>>>> [#########################################################################]
> >>>>>>>> 100%
> >>>>>>>> multilib 222,5 KiB  12,8 MiB/s 00:00
> >>>>>>>> [#########################################################################]
> >>>>>>>> 100%
> >>>>>>>> extra/libvoikko 4.3.1-1
> >>>>>>>>    usr/lib/libvoikko.so
> >>>>>>>> 10:15 [chrys at blackbeast ~] :) $
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> so the package you need for libvokko.so is "libvoikko"
> >>>>>>>> to silence out all the warnings do this:
> >>>>>>>> sudo pacman -S libvoikko nuspell hspell
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> this install all 3 (IMO optional dependency's, what should not
> >>>>>>>> create a warning, but well, it is like it is)
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> i use irssi as IRC (commandline) client. there is also Pidgin (as
> >>>>>>>> graphical client). both are very nice.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> looking forward to see you in IRC :).
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> cheers chrys
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Am 18.05.21 um 08:57 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion:
> >>>>>>>>> Hello there,
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I managed to install one of the libraries, but not the other two,
> >>>>>>>>> so thanks for that.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Also, thanks for suggesting to use yay, I just installed it, I
> >>>>>>>>> didn't know yaourt was deprecated.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> My question now is, and this'll be dum, what are recommended IRC
> >>>>>>>>> clients? how do I get them working? what should I know before
> >>>>>>>>> joining an IRC channel, what ever it might be?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Thanks again.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Best regards.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Francisco.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On 5/17/21 9:19 PM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> Hi, I just posted a link to this message intended to chrys
> >>>>>>>>>> (Fenrir author) on the #a11y channel of irc.linux-a11y.org.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Maybe join him there?
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Didier
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Le 17/05/2021 ? 20:15, Linux for blind general discussion a ?crit :
> >>>>>>>>>>> Hello everyone,
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> I just downloaded fenrir-git from the AUR using yaourt.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> When I try to run fenrir with the command
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> fenrir
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> in a terminal, how ever, i get fenrir's startup sound, and this:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> [francisco at Blueblink ~]$ fenrir
> >>>>>>>>>>> ** (process:7008): WARNING **: 20:12:45.374: Error loading
> >>>>>>>>>>> plugin: libhspell.so.
> >>>>>>>>>>> 0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
> >>>>>>>>>>> ** (process:7008): WARNING **: 20:12:45.374: Error loading
> >>>>>>>>>>> plugin: libvoikko.so.
> >>>>>>>>>>> 1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
> >>>>>>>>>>> ** (process:7008): WARNING **: 20:12:45.377: Error loading
> >>>>>>>>>>> plugin: libnuspell.so
> >>>>>>>>>>> .4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Any ideas on how to fix it, and no speech either.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Thank you for any answer.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Best regards.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Francisco.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
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