have any of you mannaged to successfully install linux alongside with windows?

Mon Nov 1 19:11:14 UTC 2021

Hi Ibrahim,

I am Didier not Matthew ;)

Yes please send me a screen shot at this address:
didier at slint dot fr

How to review the screen is indicated in the HandBook

Meanwhile the commands clocksetup typed as root in a terminal, or 
gtkclocksetup (if typed in a grahical environment)  allow to set the time.

Cheers,
Didier

Le 01/11/2021 à 15:15, Linux for blind general discussion a écrit :
> Thanks Matthew,
> 
> I am glad you told me about the system checks every five bootups. I was 
> wondering why the system slows down from time to time.
> 
> I noticed a problem, and I am not sure if it has anything to do with me 
> running the linux from an sd card or I screwed up something during 
> installation. The problem I noticed is that the date and time of my 
> entire laptop gets changed. Everytime I bootup my windows, I find the 
> time and date changed. So when I go back to my linux and try to check 
> the date and time settings, I get an error message. It is a long message 
> but I understand from it that service is unknown and something to the 
> effect that file not found. The problem is that I do not know how to 
> review the screen to capture the exact text of such messages. I could 
> take a screen shot and send to you if this helps, or tell me how to 
> review the screen and copy such error messages.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Ibrahim
> 
> On 2021-11-01 07:11, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>> Hi Ibrahim,
>>
>> I am glad you installed Slint on an SD card with no issue.
>>
>> The root (or system) partition of Slint has been formatted with an 
>> f2fs file
>> system that fits this kind of devices. To know more about f2fs:
>> https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/filesystems/f2fs.txt
>>
>> To be safe the file system is checked periodically (every 5 bootups by
>> default), which takes several minutes and could make you wonder if the 
>> system
>> is really starting. Just wait patiently until the check be completed. 
>> You can
>> change the periodicity of this check just editing as root the file
>> /etc/f2fs.conf.
>>
>> I just realized that there is a typo in the comment in this file, 
>> instead of:
>> # For instance FREQUENCY=5 means the root file system will be started 
>> every five
>> # boot.
>> please read:
>> # For instance FREQUENCY=5 means the root file system will be checked 
>> every five
>> # boots.
>>
>> @Matthew:
>> I have considered providing a similar feature (ability to shrink a NTFS
>> partition used by Windows) in Slint as in Ubuntu and even implemented 
>> it. I
>> checked it with the help of Jean-Pierre André (Linux NTFS developer) but
>> renounced to provide it: although it seemed safe I couldn't exclude 
>> that a
>> future evolution of Windows' handling of their partitions would make 
>> it unsafe,
>> with a risk of breaking Windows or corrupting its data.
>>
>> More generally, I think that it is safer to shrink a partition from 
>> the system
>> using it. In case of Slint, how-to shrink a Windows partition from 
>> Windows
>> itself is indicated in our handbook:
>> https://slint.fr/doc/HandBook.html#make_room_for_Slint
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Didier
>>
>>
>> Le 01/11/2021 à 01:22, Linux for blind general discussion a écrit :
>>> Thanks Matthew,
>>>
>>> I am not usually that adventurous when it comes with dealing with 
>>> operating systems, nontheless, I dared to install slint on an SD 
>>> card. It took approximately half an hour to do the installation. Now 
>>> I am sending this email from this Slint installation. I guess I was a 
>>> little nervous, so I do not remember that Slint asked me if I want to 
>>> install alongside windows. I chose auto installation and it presented 
>>> me with the drives and one of them was the drive where my windows 
>>> installation resides. I was afraid that if I chose it it would wipe 
>>> my entire hard disc.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Ibrahim
>>>
>>> On 2021-10-31 16:14, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I have an external HD  which has fedora living on it quite well I 
>>>> have installed ubuntu alongside windows several times and at the 
>>>> prompt where ubuntu searches for other systems on your disk, one of 
>>>> the options is install alongside windows if this is selected, ubuntu 
>>>> will do the resizing for you.  If you want, you could do a backup 
>>>> first to be sure that everything is saved first but all should be 
>>>> good.  If unsure, you could just install to a external drive as I 
>>>> did and everything should work that way.
>>>>
>>>> Matthew
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Oct 31, 2021, at 3:50 PM, Linux for blind general discussion 
>>>>> <blinux-list at redhat.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> You can install in a 32 GB or preferably in a 64 GB USB stick but 
>>>>> it will be
>>>>> rather slow.
>>>>>
>>>>> Better, if the computer has an SD card slot and is able to boot 
>>>>> from a SD card
>>>>> (not all do), use a good quality SD card.
>>>>>
>>>>> In any case an external SSD is way faster.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Didier
>>>>>
>>>>> Le 31/10/2021 à 20:28, Linux for blind general discussion a écrit :
>>>>>> I am going through the handbook and trying to understand the 
>>>>>> various concepts. I have not seen the installation in a virtual 
>>>>>> box yet. I am wondering if I can install it on a 32 or 64 GB USB 
>>>>>> stick, or does it have to be an external SSD?
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Ibrahim
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>> On Oct 31, 2021, at 2:43 PM, Linux for blind general discussion 
>>>>>>> <blinux-list at redhat.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi Ibrahim.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No, there is no live install for Slint.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> However:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1) Before you install it on your hard disk, you can install and 
>>>>>>> run it in a
>>>>>>> VirtualBox virtual machine. Then, choose the intel hd audio 
>>>>>>> controller right
>>>>>>> after the virtual machine creation. to prevent loss of speech during
>>>>>>> installation.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2) If you can afford it you can install Slint in a dedicated hard 
>>>>>>> drive or SSD
>>>>>>> which can be an an internal second drive or an external drive USB 
>>>>>>> connected.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 3) You can safely share a drive between Windows and Slint, if 
>>>>>>> Windows boots in
>>>>>>> UEFI mode.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 4) In any case the installer will presents you all possibilities for
>>>>>>> installation and will let you review all installation options 
>>>>>>> before writing
>>>>>>> anything on a hard disk. If you change your mind you will be able 
>>>>>>> to change
>>>>>>> any option. If you decide to install later or not at all, after a 
>>>>>>> reboot Windows
>>>>>>> will start as usual.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> After installation you will be able to choose which system to 
>>>>>>> start at boot up.
>>>>>>> When you will hear a sound telling you that the machine is ready 
>>>>>>> to boot, just
>>>>>>> press Enter to start Slint or press arrow down then Enter to 
>>>>>>> start Windows.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Fell free require more guidance in one of the support channels 
>>>>>>> listed in the
>>>>>>> HandBook.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hope this helps
>>>>>>> Didier
>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>> Didier Spaier
>>>>>>> Slint maintainer
>>>>>>> didier at slint dot fr
>>>>>>> Le 31/10/2021 à 16:41, Linux for blind general discussion a écrit :
>>>>>>>> Thanks a million Didier,
>>>>>>>> This is a great handbook. One of the things which discouraged me 
>>>>>>>> from adopting linux in the past was the lack of easy to follow 
>>>>>>>> documentations. Everytime I tried, I found myself browsing in 
>>>>>>>> highly technical documents that sounded like a foreign language 
>>>>>>>> to me. This handbook seems to avoid this problem.
>>>>>>>> I will certainly try slint, if it can be used as a live install 
>>>>>>>> without having to physically install on my hard disc. I will 
>>>>>>>> also browse this handbook to learn more about slint.
>>>>>>>> Thanks for this. I will certainly need your help if I install it 
>>>>>>>> on my hard disc. What I want ideally is the ability to have both 
>>>>>>>> linux and windows running on the same machine, and I choose 
>>>>>>>> which one to start at bootup.
>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>> Ibrahim
>>>>>>>> On 10/31/21 4:06 AM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Hello Ibrahim,
>>>>>>>>> this is easily done with Slint, if Windows boots in EFI mode:
>>>>>>>>> https://slint.fr/doc/HandBook.html
>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>> Didier
>>>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>>>> Didier Spaier
>>>>>>>>> Slint maintainer
>>>>>>>>> Le 31/10/2021 à 04:18, Linux for blind general discussion a 
>>>>>>>>> écrit :
>>>>>>>>>> Hello folks,
>>>>>>>>>> I have been playing with Linux mint and Accessible Coconut for 
>>>>>>>>>> over 24 hours. I am getting to like this system. However, When 
>>>>>>>>>> I contemplated installing on my hard disk, I found the 
>>>>>>>>>> installation process a little confusing and scary. I always 
>>>>>>>>>> reverted back and aborted the installation to prevent an 
>>>>>>>>>> unintended damage to my windows operating system.
>>>>>>>>>> If any of you have successfully managed to install linux 
>>>>>>>>>> alongside with windows on the same hard disk, please advise me 
>>>>>>>>>> on how to go about it safely.
>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>> Ibrahim
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