different desktops

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Wed Apr 6 21:09:20 UTC 2022


It's getting better and if memory serves is almost up with mate.


On Wed, 6 Apr 2022, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:

> Is Cinnamon as good and accessible as  Mate? If thaat's so, it's great then.
>
> On Wed, Apr 06, 2022 at 03:17:39PM -0400, Linux for blind general discussion
> wrote:
> >Cinnamon would qualify as a desktop and is supposed to be similar to mate
> >in operation.
> >
> >
> >On Wed, 6 Apr 2022, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
> >
> >> Just pointing out that Ratpoison+Strychnine, IceWm, Openbox and others
> >> aren't
> >> exactly full desktops, but are pretty much just the window manager side of
> >> things. A full desktop would include at least one panel with system
> >> tray/notification area, app indicators such as the battery monitor and
> >> clock,
> >> most of the time a file manager that doubles as a root window desktop that
> >> can
> >> include launchers and mount points and an application menu or some other
> >> type
> >> of launcher that allows you to see the applications on the system and
> >> launch
> >> them, usually grouped into various categories. Strychnine does do some of
> >> this
> >> for Ratpoison, but it's pretty much just a launcher menu and run window
> >> type
> >> of thing. Many components that would make it a full desktop are still
> >> missing,
> >> although it is possible to run Caja or Nautilus and possibly either
> >> mate-panel
> >> or gnome-panel along with it for a more full desktop experience if desired.
> >>
> >>
> >> About the best full desktop experience I've used is GNOME 2.x, which is
> >> continued as the MATE desktop. Some panel applets don't necessarily speak
> >> as
> >> much as they should, for example, nm-applet, which is the network manager,
> >> only says "panel," but for the most part, everything just works and is
> >> navigable with only a keyboard, although I find Orca's "speak object under
> >> mouse" to be fairly useful at times as well. GNOME 3.x and 40+ is another
> >> option, but some things seem to be a little less usable than the MATE
> >> desktop
> >> overall. KDE is coming along, but is still in the early stages of a11y
> >> development, so although many things are starting to work pretty well,
> >> others
> >> are still not quite usable at this stage. For full desktops, the only other
> >> partially usable options are xfce, lxde and lxqt, and all of those seem to
> >> be
> >> getting a bit long in the tooth, and some of these are even starting to
> >> lose
> >> some of the accessibility they once had. So as full desktops go, my three
> >> best
> >> recommendations would be MATE, then GNOME, then KDE. And then there are the
> >> window managers that include keyboard navigation, Ratpoison+Strychnine
> >> probably being the best of those options, although I have heard that IceWM,
> >> Fluxbox and Openbox, as well as possibly i3, can also be made more usable
> >> with
> >> either helper applications or hand-edited configuration files.
> >>
> >> ~Kyle
> >>
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