Dragonfm questions/NNN query

Sat Apr 9 09:13:25 UTC 2022

Howdy,

// Yes to putting it in the AUR and yes for the env stuff.
OK let me  create a PKGBUILD for dragonfm-git

// I'm poking at the config trying to replicate NNN's open with and not
// having much luck. Is that just a case of remembering to drop to a shell
// and doing what I need?
how does this look like? just a input dialog to enter any command with 
the current selected element as parameter?

// On that note...is there a way once I hit F4, to get back to dragonfm
// easily without relaunching it from the shell?
well, just exit the shell (type "exit"), you will be back in dragonfm 
then :).

cheers chrys

Am 09.04.22 um 10:30 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion:
> Yes to putting it in the AUR and yes for the env stuff.
>
> I'm poking at the config trying to replicate NNN's open with and not
> having much luck. Is that just a case of remembering to drop to a shell
> and doing what I need?
>
> On that note...is there a way once I hit F4, to get back to dragonfm
> easily without relaunching it from the shell?
>
> On Sat, Apr 09, 2022 at 09:41:49AM +0200, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>> Howdy,
>>
>>> Is DragonFM in the Arch repo?
>> Currently its not. If you like it, i can put it into AUR.
>>
>> Cheers chrys
>>
>>> Am 09.04.2022 um 07:54 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list at redhat.com>:
>>>
>>> Is DragonFM in the Arch repo? Am trying to get it with yay from this side.
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Sat, Apr 09, 2022 at 02:26:15AM +0200, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>>>> Howdy,
>>>>
>>>> Ok then i keep that alt + u.
>>>>
>>>>> That seems to work better, but does the Paytrion link you sent in another message have the info on changing the shortcuts as well?
>>>>
>>>> Well i changed the shortcuts in master. So there is no need to change them by others anymore.
>>>> Or what info you mean exactly?
>>>>
>>>> There is now at least a basic documentation :).
>>>>
>>>> Cheers chrys
>>>>
>>>>>> Am 09.04.2022 um 02:15 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list at redhat.com>:
>>>>> Okay if it's just alt+u then yes keep it that way. That seems to work better, but does the Paytrion link you sent in another message have the info on changing the shortcuts as well?
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 08, 2022 at 11:28:30PM +0200, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>>>>>> Howdy,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> i installed Mate terminal for testing
>>>>>>
>>>>>> // Ctrl+D for details insteead of F10
>>>>>> ok this is changed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> about ^[u i was wrong. its just alt + u
>>>>>> so a single ^ is Ctrl
>>>>>> the sequence ^[ is alt if it is followed by an letter. if not, its escape
>>>>>> ctrl + alt + x would be ^[^C
>>>>>>
>>>>>> back to Alt + u, this worked for me, should i change the shortcut in any
>>>>>> way?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> // I'm trying to replace unzip and tar with atool
>>>>>> in section [mime] you see how to open an file.
>>>>>> in section [compress] and [decompress] you can configure the de-/compressing
>>>>>> process.
>>>>>> i changed this for you
>>>>>>
>>>>>> compress (the word compress bevore the equal is just the lable shown in
>>>>>> context menu):
>>>>>> # {0} = Source: list of files separated by space with absolut filepath
>>>>>> # {1} = Destination:  archive name
>>>>>> compress=apack -q {1} {0}
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> decompress (for zipfiles, you can just copy that for any other format
>>>>>> supported by atool and change the application/zip to whatever mimetype you
>>>>>> want to unzip):
>>>>>> # {0} = Source: file to decompress
>>>>>> # {1} = Destination: folder with archive content
>>>>>> application/zip=atool -f -q --extract-to={1} {0}
>>>>>>
>>>>>> i just pushed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> cheers chrys
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Am 08.04.22 um 22:11 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion:
>>>>>>> Sure thing. Here''s what I whipped upp real quick
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ctrl+D for details insteead of F10
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ctrl+alt+x for extract instead of trl+alt+u (which doesnt seem to work
>>>>>>> on Mate?)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm trying to replace unzip and tar with atool, how NNN handles it since
>>>>>>> it's a lot nicer to have one tool that handles a ton of formats without
>>>>>>> having to hunt down 10 differrent programs
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Aside from that, not made any other changes to the .conf file though.
>>>>>>> It's a neat little program, though just in case I missed any, go through
>>>>>>> and use DragonFM with a terminal emulator and see what you can come up
>>>>>>> with for shortcuts? I'm on a laptop currently so that kind of hinders
>>>>>>> what I can do shortcuts wise however
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 08, 2022 at 10:03:27PM +0200, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>>>>>>>> Howdy,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Well, F123 was mostly TTY only. So the bindings are set with that in mind :). The project wanted to momic GUI shortcuts for most parts.
>>>>>>>> The colliding shortcuts can be changed very easy in settings file.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If you hand me a list with shortcuts you want to have changed, i change them for you right in master.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As F123 is no more, TTY compat. does not matter that much anymore to me and we can improve it in terminal emulators (most of them have more capabilities than TTY in any way, for example konsole ( the KDE terminal emulator has special escape sequences for shift arrow)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cheers chrys
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Am 08.04.2022 um 21:53 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list at redhat.com>:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Unfortunately, DragonFM doesn't work well out of the box with a terminal emulator, mostly down to conflicts with keys like F10. Yes I can redefine them, but that's kind of something Im slwly slowly poking at. I'm unable to get Mate-terminal to recognize a ctrl+alt patern hough whereas a TTY works fine so, unsure if you need to test Dragonfm on terminal emulators with a desktop?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Kind of a shame since I like how easy Dragon is to use vs something like
>>>>>>>>> MC or Ranger or NNN (my current favorite one that doesn't have keyboard
>>>>>>>>> conflicts) though
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 08, 2022 at 09:36:28PM +0200, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Howdy,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Well there is a context menu  ( dragonFM calls it Details, because it also shows file properties like size, mime and a list of available actions) with all available options by pressing F10
>>>>>>>>>> Some actions are only available for given mime types like compress current only for zip and tar, others could be addad very easy. By default dragonfm does not use atool but unzip command for zip files and tar of course for tar those need to be installed or confured to use something else.  (I can give you a more detailed information how to configure those stuff if you are interested in)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> DragonFM reads the Escape sequences from stdin to detect shortcuts (like almost any other CLI application)
>>>>>>>>>> Some important basic translation help (we should add the shortcuts as comments to the settings file lol )
>>>>>>>>>> ^ = CTRL
>>>>>>>>>> [ = Alt
>>>>>>>>>> Uppercase letter = shift + letter
>>>>>>>>>> lowercase letter = just the letter
>>>>>>>>>> An other example:
>>>>>>>>>> ^[u translates as ctrl + alt + u
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> There are some specials like arrow keys or escape.
>>>>>>>>>> Escape is translated by ^[
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> (by the way many shortcuts are similar to other graphical file managers BUT shift + arrow for mark files is different as i could not figure how to read this from an escape sequence, because there is no uppercase arrow *smile*)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Development was sponsored by F123 project. Today known as stormux. Sadly i did not wire a lot of documentation but you can ask me everything you want to know :).
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Cheers chrys
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Am 08.04.2022 um 18:41 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list at redhat.com>:
>>>>>>>>>>> So I gave it a shot and it feels logical and well laid out, for the most
>>>>>>>>>>> part
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> BUt I'm struggling on a few things. I have it going and want to unzip an
>>>>>>>>>>> archive from within it. In NNN I can just do that and work with atool. I
>>>>>>>>>>> can't seem to find the keys to start extracting an archive or how
>>>>>>>>>>> Dragonfm handles that at all, Ive only found unextract with ^(U in the
>>>>>>>>>>> config, which I've no clue what it translates to in terms of actual keys
>>>>>>>>>>> aside from ctrl and U. It's the ( I'm stumped on
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> See my main gripe with NNN is if I use it in a terminal I have to hit O,
>>>>>>>>>>> w3m and c to open an html doc in w3m else it loads up in Firefox. Now
>>>>>>>>>>> granted I've not tried it on a pure TTY but...on a terminal, xdg-open
>>>>>>>>>>> overrides browser being set as an environment variable
>>>>>>>>>>>
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