Dragonfm questions/NNN query

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Sat Apr 9 14:53:32 UTC 2022


Howdy,

glad to hear that you like it :).

maybe you can send me your tweaks, then i can add them into master. so 
the settings could raise to be more complete.

there is currently no toggle for hidden files, you can just set this in 
settings.conf
wait, I will add a toggle for you.

cheers chrys

Am 09.04.22 um 16:27 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion:
> That works great, I can open up my files in whatever app I like. I've made some tweaks to the config to account for tar/bzip/gzip files and other common archive formats as well, not sure what else I'm missing. This is like a way more useable Text Nautlius/Caja and it is flat out awesome now.
>
> One question. How would I set a shortcut to show/hide hidden folders and
> files?
>
> On Sat, Apr 09, 2022 at 03:04:13PM +0200, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>> Howdy,
>>
>> its me again, the placeholder "{0}" is not longer needed if the file path
>> has to be at the end of the open with command, but still could be used if
>> the file path is needed somewhere in the middle.
>> so now it should be enought to enter
>> gedit
>>
>> cheers chrys
>>
>> Am 09.04.22 um 14:58 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion:
>>> Howdy,
>>>
>>> thanks, well we can improve it step by step. Its very flexible and very
>>> easy to extend (depends on skills to create symbolic links loool)
>>> anyway.
>>>
>>> the syntax is quite simple. just enter the how you would open it from
>>> shell but replace the filename with {0} (this is a placeholder for the
>>> complete filepath)
>>> for gedit this would just be
>>> gedit {0}
>>> for me gedit opens then with the selected file. this currently only
>>> works for files. if your cursor is on an folder, it opens the path
>>> currently in dragonFM.
>>> to me more comfortable, i could just add the {0} if it does not exist at
>>> the end.
>>>
>>> cheers chrys
>>> Am 09.04.22 um 14:34 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion:
>>>> Indeed it does. Thanks, DFM is a really neat bit of software.
>>>>
>>>> However, how does the open with work? If I load up, say a text file and
>>>> hit open with... it gives me cat {0} | less
>>>>
>>>> What's the syntax for that one? I tried typing in Gedit and got nothing,
>>>> tried Pluma, tried nano, no luck
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Apr 09, 2022 at 02:30:48PM +0200, Linux for blind general
>>>> discussion wrote:
>>>>> Howdy,
>>>>>
>>>>> Ok this time it was gits fault. it didnt realize that i changed
>>>>> the symlink
>>>>> from the absolute to an relative path.
>>>>> so i hat to remove commit and reacreate commit :).
>>>>> now it works for real :).
>>>>>
>>>>> cheers chrys
>>>>>
>>>>> Am 09.04.22 um 14:17 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion:
>>>>>> hmm still some issues,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> let me take a deeper look
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Am 09.04.22 um 14:09 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion:
>>>>>>> Howdy,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> it should be fixed my friend. Sorry for that ^^.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> cheers chrys
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Am 09.04.22 um 13:59 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion:
>>>>>>>> The simlink points to your home directory and shows up as a
>>>>>>>> broken simlink if I check. It's shown up as a symbolic link,
>>>>>>>> broken, pointing to /home/chrys/dragonfm/src...the .py script
>>>>>>>> that should be there there's a simlink instead.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> OnSat, Apr 09, 2022 at 01:35:49PM +0200, Linux for blind general
>>>>>>>> discussion wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Howdy,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> i cant reproduce this here.
>>>>>>>>> I just did a look at git, looks like all files
>>>>>>>>> are pushed correctly.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> maybe a collision with an work in progress commit, wrong
>>>>>>>>> branch or python
>>>>>>>>> cache?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> i guess it must be a local issue, setup.py and PKGBUILD work
>>>>>>>>> as expected
>>>>>>>>> here.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> cheers chrys
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Am 09.04.22 um 13:18 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion:
>>>>>>>>>> Not sure if that broke but on my end that's throwing up
>>>>>>>>>> a no such file for the open shell with... .py one when I
>>>>>>>>>> do sudo ./setup.py with a fresh install and doing in the
>>>>>>>>>> manual way. Not back on my Arch box right now so can't
>>>>>>>>>> test the pkgbuild though....but to replicate clone the
>>>>>>>>>> latest url and do sudo ./setup.py and watch for the
>>>>>>>>>> unable to copy error
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Apr 09, 2022 at 01:05:18PM +0200, Linux for
>>>>>>>>>> blind general discussion wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Howdy,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> i just add an "open entry with shell" action.
>>>>>>>>>>> currently assigned to ctrl + o.
>>>>>>>>>>> when you select a file, press ctrl + o an input box
>>>>>>>>>>> appears. there is a
>>>>>>>>>>> default value (configureable in settings.conf section folder key
>>>>>>>>>>> openWithShellInitValue). pressing enter executes the
>>>>>>>>>>> command then. {0} is
>>>>>>>>>>> the placeholder for the current selected file.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> do you want
>>>>>>>>>>> ctrl + o for open
>>>>>>>>>>> ctrl + w for open with?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> should i swap them or keep it as it is?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> cheers chrys
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Am 09.04.22 um 12:34 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Howdy,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> i just provided an PKGBUILD for dragonFM and uploaded it to AUR.
>>>>>>>>>>>> its currently a git package, as dragonFM does
>>>>>>>>>>>> not yet seen any stable
>>>>>>>>>>>> release ;).
>>>>>>>>>>>> name: dragonfm-git
>>>>>>>>>>>> url: https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/dragonfm-git
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> if you already installed it using
>>>>>>>>>>>> setup.py you might need to remove
>>>>>>>>>>>> conflicting files from your filesystem fist. (as
>>>>>>>>>>>> setup.py does bypass
>>>>>>>>>>>> the package manager)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> i added an wildcard mime type. if there is no
>>>>>>>>>>>> specific entry in the mime
>>>>>>>>>>>> list, the xdg-open pops up now. this might be more helpful.
>>>>>>>>>>>> well, i will implement the open with for you. give me a second.
>>>>>>>>>>>> i will assign it to ctrl + o and
>>>>>>>>>>>> move the open action to ctrl + m.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> cheers chrys
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Am 09.04.22 um 12:25 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sure I can test the pkgbuild once I'm back on my Arch box
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> And that input box works fine. I'll suggest
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ctrl+O as the shortcut for
>>>>>>>>>>>>> it so you got Enter/Ctrl+M to open (o maybe
>>>>>>>>>>>>> move open with to ctrl+M and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> see how that works?), and a ctrl+O for open with?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> AAh I didnt know about just exiting the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> shell. I assumed that'd close
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the tab. My first thought was alright, fg
>>>>>>>>>>>>> dragonfm to get back to it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Apr 09, 2022 at
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 11:13:25AM +0200, Linux for
>>>>>>>>>>>>> blind general
>>>>>>>>>>>>> discussion wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Howdy,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> // Yes to putting it in the AUR and yes for the env stuff.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OK let me  create a PKGBUILD for dragonfm-git
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> // I'm poking at the config trying to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> replicate NNN's open with and not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> // having much luck. Is that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just a case of remembering
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to drop
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to a shell
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> // and doing what I need?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> how does this look like? just a input dialog to enter any
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> command with the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> current selected element as parameter?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> // On that note...is there a way once I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hit F4, to get back to dragonfm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> // easily without relaunching it from the shell?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> well, just exit the shell (type "exit"), you will be back in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dragonfm then
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cheers chrys
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Am 09.04.22 um 10:30 schrieb
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Linux for blind general
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discussion:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes to putting it in the AUR and yes for the env stuff.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm poking at the config trying to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> replicate NNN's open with and not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> having much luck. Is that just a case of remembering to drop
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to a shell
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and doing what I need?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On that note...is there a way once I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hit F4, to get back to dragonfm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> easily without relaunching it from the shell?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Apr 09, 2022 at 09:41:49AM +0200, Linux for blind
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> general discussion wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Howdy,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is DragonFM in the Arch repo?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Currently its not. If you like it, i can put it into AUR.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers chrys
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Am 09.04.2022 um 07:54 schrieb Linux for blind
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> general discussion <blinux-list at redhat.com>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is DragonFM in the Arch repo? Am trying to get it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with yay from this side.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Apr 09, 2022 at 02:26:15AM +0200, Linux
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for blind general discussion wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Howdy,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ok then i keep that alt + u.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That seems to work better, but does the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Paytrion link you sent in another message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have the info on changing the shortcuts as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> well?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well i changed the shortcuts in master. So there
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is no need to change them by others anymore.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Or what info you mean exactly?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is now at least a basic documentation :).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers chrys
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Am 09.04.2022 um 02:15 schrieb Linux for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blind general discussion
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <blinux-list at redhat.com>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Okay if it's just alt+u then yes keep it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that way. That seems to work better, but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> does the Paytrion link you sent in another
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message have the info on changing the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shortcuts as well?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 08, 2022 at 11:28:30PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +0200, Linux for blind general
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discussion wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Howdy,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> i installed Mate terminal for testing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> // Ctrl+D for details insteead of F10
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ok this is changed.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about ^[u i was wrong. its just alt + u
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so a single ^ is Ctrl
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the sequence ^[ is alt if it is followed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by an letter. if not, its escape
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ctrl + alt + x would be ^[^C
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> back to Alt + u, this worked for me,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should i change the shortcut in any
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> way?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> // I'm trying to replace unzip and tar with atool
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in section [mime] you see how to open an file.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in section [compress] and [decompress]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you can configure the de-/compressing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> process.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> i changed this for you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> compress (the word compress bevore the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> equal is just the lable shown in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> context menu):
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> # {0} = Source: list of files separated
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by space with absolut filepath
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> # {1} = Destination:  archive name
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> compress=apack -q {1} {0}
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> decompress (for zipfiles, you can just
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> copy that for any other format
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> supported by atool and change the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> application/zip to whatever mimetype you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> want to unzip):
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> # {0} = Source: file to decompress
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> # {1} = Destination: folder with archive content
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> application/zip=atool -f -q --extract-to={1} {0}
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> i just pushed.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cheers chrys
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Am 08.04.22
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> um 22:11
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> schrieb
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Linux for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blind
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> general
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discussion:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sure thing. Here''s what I whipped upp real quick
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ctrl+D for details insteead of F10
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ctrl+alt+x for extract instead of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trl+alt+u (which doesnt seem to work
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on Mate?)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm trying to replace unzip and tar
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with atool, how NNN handles it since
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's a lot nicer to have one tool
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that handles a ton of formats
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> without
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> having to hunt down 10 differrent programs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Aside from that, not made any other
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> changes to the .conf file though.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's a neat little program, though
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just in case I missed any, go
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> through
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and use DragonFM with a terminal
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> emulator and see what you can come
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with for shortcuts? I'm on a laptop
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> currently so that kind of hinders
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what I can do shortcuts wise however
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 08, 2022 at 10:03:27PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +0200, Linux for blind general
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discussion wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Howdy,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, F123 was mostly TTY only.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So the bindings are set with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that in mind :). The project
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wanted to momic GUI shortcuts
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for most parts.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The colliding shortcuts can be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> changed very easy in settings
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> file.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you hand me a list with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shortcuts you want to have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> changed, i change them for you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> right in master.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As F123 is no more, TTY compat.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> does not matter that much
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anymore to me and we can improve
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it in terminal emulators (most
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of them have more capabilities
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than TTY in any way, for example
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> konsole ( the KDE terminal
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> emulator has special escape
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sequences for shift arrow)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers chrys
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Am 08.04.2022 um 21:53
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> schrieb Linux for blind
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> general discussion
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <blinux-list at redhat.com>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unfortunately, DragonFM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't work well out of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> box with a terminal
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> emulator, mostly down to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> conflicts with keys like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> F10. Yes I can redefine
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them, but that's kind of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something Im slwly slowly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> poking at. I'm unable to get
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mate-terminal to recognize a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ctrl+alt patern hough
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whereas a TTY works fine so,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unsure if you need to test
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dragonfm on terminal
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> emulators with a desktop?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kind of a shame since I like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> how easy Dragon is to use vs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MC or Ranger or NNN (my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> current favorite one that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't have keyboard
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> conflicts) though
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 08, 2022 at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 09:36:28PM +0200, Linux
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for blind general
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discussion wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Howdy,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well there is a context
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> menu  ( dragonFM calls
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it Details, because it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> also shows file
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> properties like size,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mime and a list of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> available actions) with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all available options by
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pressing F10
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Some actions are only
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> available for given mime
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> types like compress
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> current only for zip and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tar, others could be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> addad very easy. By
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> default dragonfm does
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not use atool but unzip
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> command for zip files
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and tar of course for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tar those need to be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> installed or confured to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> use something else.  (I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can give you a more
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> detailed information how
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to configure those stuff
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if you are interested
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DragonFM reads the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Escape sequences from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stdin to detect
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shortcuts (like almost
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any other CLI
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> application)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Some important basic
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> translation help (we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should add the shortcuts
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as comments to the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> settings file lol )
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ^ = CTRL
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [ = Alt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Uppercase letter = shift + letter
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lowercase letter = just the letter
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> An other example:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ^[u translates as ctrl + alt + u
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There are some specials like arrow keys or escape.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Escape is translated by ^[
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (by the way many
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shortcuts are similar to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other graphical file
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> managers BUT shift +
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> arrow for mark files is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> different as i could not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> figure how to read this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from an escape sequence,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because there is no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> uppercase arrow *smile*)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Development was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sponsored by F123
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> project. Today known as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stormux. Sadly i did not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wire a lot of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> documentation but you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can ask me everything
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you want to know :).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers chrys
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Am 08.04.2022 um
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 18:41 schrieb
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Linux for blind
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> general
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discussion
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <blinux-list at redhat.com>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So I gave it a shot
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and it feels logical
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and well laid out,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the most
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> part
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BUt I'm struggling
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on a few things. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have it going and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> want to unzip an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> archive from within
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it. In NNN I can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just do that and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> work with atool. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can't seem to find
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the keys to start
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> extracting an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> archive or how
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dragonfm handles
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that at all, Ive
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> only found unextract
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with ^(U in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> config, which I've
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> no clue what it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> translates to in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> terms of actual keys
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aside from ctrl and U. It's the ( I'm stumped on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> See my main gripe
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with NNN is if I use
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it in a terminal I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have to hit O,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> w3m and c to open an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> html doc in w3m else
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it loads up in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Firefox. Now
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> granted I've not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tried it on a pure
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> TTY but...on a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> terminal, xdg-open
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> overrides
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> browser
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> being
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> set
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> environment
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> variable
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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