Getting started with Emacspeak?

Fri Apr 15 21:34:06 UTC 2022

That's od. I don't have emacspeak git only the regular emacspeak with the AUr?

Not sure if that's down to the AUR being odd or something but a Paru -Ss emacspeak to search only gives me the regular emacspeak and shows it as installed, nothing about git?

On Fri, Apr 15, 2022 at 11:15:16PM +0200, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
> By the way, did you install Emacspeak itself from AUR, or git? I
> discovered that the Git version is better than the AUR one. Since you
> said you are using Paru, I believe it works almost the same like yay. I
> use yay here. Still the bottom line is that you can just pull emacspeak
> from its repo and then run it that way.
> 
> Ishe
> 
> Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list at redhat.com> writes:
> 
> > Right got all that going...but...
> >
> > I dunno iif it's an arch specific issue or the tutorial I was following is outdated, but there's no emacspeak group in the customize options
> >
> > But, there's literally zero things about emacspeak in the settings at all. I'm running it from the AUR which may be my problem. I'll try a manual compile and go from there. I forget the latest release though but I thought it was higher than 28?
> >
> > On Fri, Apr 15, 2022 at 02:33:25PM -0500, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
> >> Should be at ~/.emacs.el
> >> Devin Prater
> >> r.d.t.prater at gmail.com
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> On Fri, Apr 15, 2022 at 2:28 PM Linux for blind general discussion <
> >> blinux-list at redhat.com> wrote:
> >> 
> >> > One problem...
> >> >
> >> > Where is that el file then? Turning off the auditory icons didn't do
> >> > anything at all, at least not that I'm aware of?
> >> >
> >> > On Fri, Apr 15, 2022 at 02:02:21PM -0500, Linux for blind general
> >> > discussion wrote:
> >> > > To kill the icons, do C-u C-e a. That's Control + U (universal argument),
> >> > > Control + E for the Emacspeak layered command, then a for audio icons.
> >> > Then
> >> > > to change speech rate, do C-u C-e d r. To set that perminently, do C-h
> >> > spc
> >> > > (control + h then space) for customize, type emacspeak, pres Enter, find
> >> > > the speech rate for whatever you're using, eSpeak or Outloud, then change
> >> > > that number, then save the buffer with C-x s.
> >> > >
> >> > > To install MELPA, add this to your .emacs.el file:
> >> > >
> >> > > (require 'package)
> >> > > (add-to-list 'package-archives '("melpa" . "https://melpa.org/packages/")
> >> > t)
> >> > >
> >> > > Save your .emacs.el file. Now, do C-h p. This opens a list of packages.
> >> > You
> >> > > can use your arrow keys, or n and p, to navigate packages. Press i to
> >> > make
> >> > > the ones you want to install, including the nov package for reading
> >> > books,
> >> > > then press x to install. You'll be asked if you want to install a number
> >> > of
> >> > > packages, press y.
> >> > >
> >> > > Then, when done, you can add this to enable nov.el to open EPUB files:
> >> > >
> >> > > (add-to-list 'auto-mode-alist '("\\.epub\\'" . nov-mode))
> >> > >
> >> > > You can read more about it at:
> >> > >
> >> > > https://depp.brause.cc/nov.el/
> >> > >
> >> > > Devin Prater
> >> > > r.d.t.prater at gmail.com
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > On Fri, Apr 15, 2022 at 1:20 PM Linux for blind general discussion <
> >> > > blinux-list at redhat.com> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > > So. How would I go about installing all that from scratch then? I've a
> >> > > > bone tock emacspeak install with paru -S emacspeak.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Now. How do I get that book thing, tramp and gnus or notmuch and such.
> >> > Is
> >> > > > there a script I can run that does all the heavy lifting for me or is
> >> > it a
> >> > > > case of download this, extract it here, edit these files and such?
> >> > I've no
> >> > > > clue where Arch puts the configs and stuff for emacspeak or where to
> >> > even
> >> > > > look for editing stuf like that.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > So. Where do I begin?
> >> > > >
> >> > > > See what i want to do before anything else, is up the speech rate and
> >> > kill
> >> > > > the sound icons, the beeps and bleeps when I move around a buffer. I
> >> > did
> >> > > > look in the emacspeak manual but didn't find anything and the default
> >> > > > speech rate is insanely slow for my liking
> >> > > >
> >> > > > On Fri, Apr 15, 2022 at 01:01:55PM -0500, Linux for blind general
> >> > > > discussion wrote:
> >> > > > > One thing you forgot to ask: Can I read books in Emaacs with
> >> > Emacspeak?
> >> > > > The
> >> > > > > answer is yes, through Nov.el (from the Melpa package archives). It's
> >> > > > > pretty darn nice, preserves all the formatting, lets you move through
> >> > > > > chapters and such, much better than converting to plain text and
> >> > trying
> >> > > > to
> >> > > > > save your place there.
> >> > > > > Devin Prater
> >> > > > > r.d.t.prater at gmail.com
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > On Fri, Apr 15, 2022 at 11:04 AM Linux for blind general discussion <
> >> > > > > blinux-list at redhat.com> wrote:
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > > Hi answers inline, but in short for the first three questions: yes
> >> > it's
> >> > > > > > possible.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list at redhat.com>
> >> > writes:
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > I know i'm going to be in for a long, long, painful process.
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > But here's my questions.
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > Can I, on emacspeak...
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > 1. Check and respond to my gemails? Dirent things online have
> >> > > > > > > different answers
> >> > > > > > You can use any of the email clients such as notmuch, Wanderlust,
> >> > gnus
> >> > > > > > or mu4e to do just that. The only thing I have to say is that like
> >> > most
> >> > > > > > terminal applications, you have to deal with  text files to enter
> >> > IMAP
> >> > > > > > and SMTP details.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > As for me, I use notmuch.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > 2. Have a telnet client up and going to connect to stuff like
> >> > MUDs
> >> > > > > > > without leaving emacspeak?
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Sure, you use tramp for that. For instance, entering
> >> > /ssh:root!blahblah
> >> > > > > > will connect you to a remote ssh server at blahblah.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > 3. Can I browse the modern net in emacspeak or?
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > You can use eww or w3. If you set a variable for it to pretend as
> >> > if it
> >> > > > > > is FF or something else. However, personally, though I am a heavy
> >> > Emacs
> >> > > > > > user, I still find browsing with Firefox or Chrome with Orca a
> >> > better
> >> > > > > > option.
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > And 4. Al, do you happen to know where I can get a hold o that
> >> > book
> >> > > > > > > you metnioned?
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > I am not Al, but the book is called Harley's Emacs Field Guide and
> >> > can
> >> > > > > > be found from Bookshare.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Cheers,
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Ishe
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > Those are my four questions. I the answer to any of the above is
> >> > no,
> >> > > > > > it's a deal breaker for me
> >> > > > > > > --
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> >> > point
> >> > > > > > >
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