"Accessibility in Fedora Workstation" (fwd)

Linux for blind general discussion blinux-list at redhat.com
Sat Aug 13 20:04:32 UTC 2022

>>>>> "KL" == Karen Lewellen <klewellen at shellworld.net> writes:

    KL> may I ask from where he obtained his software engineering
    KL> degree?  Studied computer science?  Perhaps disability studies?
    KL> there are certainly scores of disabled individuals with these
    KL> various levels of qualification..even who are Linux users.  The
    KL> interview did not document a single one, outside of his
    KL> experiencing blindness..which is not going to insure he creates
    KL> an accessible platform for fedora since access refers to several
    KL> populations.  and he states he knows nothing about those.

I have already said regarding this what I felt was needed and I don’t
find appropriate continuing that discussion here.  I’d suggest focusing
on how to improve free software accessibility instead.

If anybody cares about Fedora accessibility, there is always opportunity
to help by providing fixes to reported bugs, giving technical advice or
filing bugs on not yet reported issues.  All of these is needed, it’s
sometimes difficult to move on with some issues and to get any help.
OTOH trying to demotivate people who work on accessibility is certainly
not helpful.


    KL> On Sat, 13 Aug 2022, Milan Zamazal wrote:

    >>>>>>> "KL" == Karen Lewellen <klewellen at shellworld.net> writes:
    KL> What bothers me most are his lack of actual qualifications, and
    KL> absolute dismissal of what he has not experienced..as if he
    KL> defines Linux usage for everyone.  That attitude is dangerous,
    KL> because he is educating those outside of the accessibility
    KL> experiences, who will believe his ignorance is factual.  he has
    KL> to be expert, it is his job.
    >> Hi Karen,
    >> I know Lukas personally and I admire his skills and
    >> qualifications.  I also know first hand that he is open to
    >> constructive feedback and I believe he’d be happy to be corrected
    >> about possible technical inaccuracies in the interview.  It may
    >> be also a good opportunity to find out what’s possibly missing in
    >> making anybody better informed.
    >> As for “absolute dismissal of what he has not experienced”, what
    >> reasonable free software alternatives to a less or more standard
    >> desktop with Orca and a software synthesizer can you see for a
    >> common blind user who needs to use a fully working web browser,
    >> to read and process text documents, to be compatible with other
    >> computer users, etc.?
    >> And let’s be realistic.  We celebrate every single developer
    >> hired to improve accessibility.  This tells something about the
    >> state of the matters.  We cannot expect that a single person will
    >> fix all the kinds of accessibility problems in all the
    >> environments.  Lukas works at his job focusing on certain areas
    >> currently seen there as urgent ones and I appreciate this
    >> opportunity.  Anybody else seeing a need to work on other areas
    >> is welcome to contribute to whatever sees fit, as I do.
    >> Regards, Milan

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