"Accessibility in Fedora Workstation" (fwd)

Linux for blind general discussion blinux-list at redhat.com
Mon Aug 15 15:51:35 UTC 2022

Valiant8086 here. I'm 99 percent a Windows user, and I use command line 
a fair bit honestly. Just as you mentioned, what ever tool seems most 
efficient and friendly for the user is what they should be using.

Aaron Spears, AKA Valiant8086 General Partner at Valiant Galaxy Associates "we make (VERY GOOD AUDIOGAMES) for the blind comunity" http://valiantGalaxy.com

On 8/15/2022 11:01 AM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
> See I'm curious. I've been watching this thread and figured I'd leap 
> in. My setup is I havve a WM going, Ratpoison in my case find terminal 
> things easier to use, for example pipe-viewer for Youtube videos 
> without fighting with the frankly, clunky and obtuse Youtube main site 
> that's trying to force me to bee Google's slave.
> So I'm in this weird spot where I'm using, say, Firefox or web 
> browsing, but say if I download a news article or something for, let's 
> say, a blog post and I need to quickly grab text I find it quicker for 
> me to fire up w3m in my terminal, select what I want and copy it that 
> way, than use Firefox to do the same task.
> Or for email, I prefer the quickness and ease of use of Mutt, I can go 
> in, delete a bunch of emails for example, without having to deal with 
> Thunderbird/Evolution's laginess and Orca freezing up in a folder with 
> thousands of messages for example.
> I'd argue that trying to force GUI usage isn't really the right 
> approach, instead more of okay, here's a set of tools, some or CLI, 
> some are GUI, use what works for you and your use cases. I can't use 
> GUI tools when SSHing into a machine really, so personally, I'm in 
> this hybrid sort of setup where I do have a window manager and access 
> to graphical apps, but I prefer to use the terminal and CLI for 
> several things that I find too clunky with a desktop. That and I don't 
> have to deal withh things such as Orca getting stuck in a CLI app, 
> that doesn't happen at all.
> So TL:DR Use what works for you no matter if it's CLI or GUI, use what 
> suits you best IMO
> On 8/15/22 14:12, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>> (from Matt Campbell)
>> Thanks all for the appreciation and memories. But I'm afraid that, at 
>> the risk of getting philosophical, the person who created ZipSpeak 
>> and trplayer no longer exists. I remember being him, and I still have 
>> his name and email address, but I'm no longer him. I've changed so 
>> much over the two decades since then. Nothing makes that clearer than 
>> Chris's and Karen's concerns about my attitude toward Linux console 
>> users and, more generally, people who don't follow the whims of 
>> mainstream technology for whatever reason. And those responses have 
>> given me something to think about, but I don't yet know what I'll do 
>> about it. I said what I wanted to say on the Fedora accessibility 
>> article, and maybe I shouldn't have even let myself get pulled into 
>> that thread. But I think I'm now philosophically far enough away from 
>> many, or even most, in this community that I will probably retreat 
>> again from this list and other related lists.
>> Matt
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