"Accessibility in Fedora Workstation" (fwd)

[Linux for blind general discussion]

Valiant8086 here. I'm 99 percent a Windows user, and I use command line 
a fair bit honestly. Just as you mentioned, what ever tool seems most 
efficient and friendly for the user is what they should be using.



Cheers:
Aaron Spears, AKA Valiant8086 General Partner at Valiant Galaxy Associates "we make (VERY GOOD AUDIOGAMES) for the blind comunity" http://valiantGalaxy.com

On 8/15/2022 11:01 AM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
> See I'm curious. I've been watching this thread and figured I'd leap 
> in. My setup is I havve a WM going, Ratpoison in my case find terminal 
> things easier to use, for example pipe-viewer for Youtube videos 
> without fighting with the frankly, clunky and obtuse Youtube main site 
> that's trying to force me to bee Google's slave.
>
>
> So I'm in this weird spot where I'm using, say, Firefox or web 
> browsing, but say if I download a news article or something for, let's 
> say, a blog post and I need to quickly grab text I find it quicker for 
> me to fire up w3m in my terminal, select what I want and copy it that 
> way, than use Firefox to do the same task.
>
>
> Or for email, I prefer the quickness and ease of use of Mutt, I can go 
> in, delete a bunch of emails for example, without having to deal with 
> Thunderbird/Evolution's laginess and Orca freezing up in a folder with 
> thousands of messages for example.
>
>
> I'd argue that trying to force GUI usage isn't really the right 
> approach, instead more of okay, here's a set of tools, some or CLI, 
> some are GUI, use what works for you and your use cases. I can't use 
> GUI tools when SSHing into a machine really, so personally, I'm in 
> this hybrid sort of setup where I do have a window manager and access 
> to graphical apps, but I prefer to use the terminal and CLI for 
> several things that I find too clunky with a desktop. That and I don't 
> have to deal withh things such as Orca getting stuck in a CLI app, 
> that doesn't happen at all.
>
> So TL:DR Use what works for you no matter if it's CLI or GUI, use what 
> suits you best IMO
>
>
> On 8/15/22 14:12, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>> (from Matt Campbell)
>>
>> Thanks all for the appreciation and memories. But I'm afraid that, at 
>> the risk of getting philosophical, the person who created ZipSpeak 
>> and trplayer no longer exists. I remember being him, and I still have 
>> his name and email address, but I'm no longer him. I've changed so 
>> much over the two decades since then. Nothing makes that clearer than 
>> Chris's and Karen's concerns about my attitude toward Linux console 
>> users and, more generally, people who don't follow the whims of 
>> mainstream technology for whatever reason. And those responses have 
>> given me something to think about, but I don't yet know what I'll do 
>> about it. I said what I wanted to say on the Fedora accessibility 
>> article, and maybe I shouldn't have even let myself get pulled into 
>> that thread. But I think I'm now philosophically far enough away from 
>> many, or even most, in this community that I will probably retreat 
>> again from this list and other related lists.
>>
>> Matt
>>
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