Google is nuking simple username/password sign ins?

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Fri Mar 4 18:31:48 UTC 2022

Do you have pointers to information how to do that?  I'm none too sure I 
know enough, but I'd like to check it out.

Sure. Aside from my experiences with LineageOS for MicroG

that I just posted, I have a vps that runs email, and it also has 
NextCloud running on it. In order to self-host websites and even your 
NextCloud, you can probably use a home-based server if your connection 
is good enough, but because email providers have done all they can to 
keep regular users from being able to host their own email so that they 
can get all the traffic, back in the day they used to call that traffic 
pumping, and it was frowned upon, well these days, they call it security 
and that makes everything OK. In any case, now you need a VPS (virtual 
private server) in order to send email that won't get marked as spam or 
outright rejected by most of the big names that will likely hold the 
email addresses for the recipients of most of your emails. The easiest 
and least expensive way to get started with that is by using

which has a completely free forever pricing tier. You can get 200GB of 
disk space, 1 64-bit single-core AMD virtual machine with 1GB of RAM and 
as many as 4 Ampere ARM processor cores with 24GB of RAM, all completely 
free. They also have some database stuff among other things that you can 
get to go along with that,  but I find the complete virtual server 
configurations to be the most effective for my hosting needs. Their OS 
images are limited to primarily Ubuntu LTS and Oracle Linux, which is 
essentially CentOS (before it was CentOS Stream), so I would wait until 
Ubuntu 22.04 is released and becomes available, as you probably don't 
want 20.04 now. This free pricing tier will help most people who just 
want to host their own stuff, all except mail, which may require paying 
a small fee to get support to set up the reverse DNS for email hosting. 
There is nothing else free or even close that will do all of what you 
can host with Oracle, but many people will want to avoid them as well, 
and I only mention them because of the price, which truly is unbeatable 
for all you can get. That said, I currently have my self-hosted email, 
NextCloud and other websites on a server at SKB Enterprise, hosted in 
Amsterdam, "one of the biggest internet hubs of the world," because 
Oracle has not exactly been trustworthy over the years, and also because 
I just found out about 3 months ago about Oracle Cloud, and actually, 
they haven't disappointed me yet, with the exception of the reverse DNS 
(PTR record) that they don't have in the console where I can set it up 
myself, so email would be a pain to get going without getting caught by 
most spam detection systems. I have a referral link for SKB Enterprise 
that you can check out by going to

The price for a 100GB disk, 2 AMD CPU cores and 4GB of RAM is 6.50 
euros,or they have a 50GB disk, a single AMD core and 2GB of RAM, 
suitable for most basic services you may want to self-host, for 3.50 euros.

. I have also used ChunkHost

which offers 50GB of disk space, a single AMD CPU core and 2GB of RAM, 
doubled to 4GB if you pay for a full year, for $5/month ($60/year), 
hosted in Los Angeles, California, which also has fairly good connectivity.

As for getting email and websites themselves up and running, the best 
and easiest thing I've found is ISPConfig

It's just a control panel that you install on your Ubuntu, Debian or 
CentOS server, and it makes setting up websites and especially email 
boxes nearly as easy as the proverbial pie. I personally like 
caddyserver for websites, but it doesn't do for mail what it does for 
websites, and ISPConfig doesn't support it. But it does support Apache, 
which is one of the only servers available that supports .htaccess for 
everything from rewrites to custom error pages written in php to all 
kinds of other things that are distributed with most open source web 
applications, so I'm good with that. ISPConfig does require some 
emulated mouse clicks using Orca, but it really is one of the easiest 
ways to get things going, and the Perfect Server tutorials on HowtoForge 
are highly valued as well.

Well, this is getting rather long, and probably more involved than what 
you wanted, but that's my basic starter kit, so feel free to ask me any 


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