tdsr

[Linux for blind general discussion]

Just create the file.

On 10/5/2022 5:31 PM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
> Using ls .bash_login
> and sudo ls .bash_login
> I am not finding that file.
> I am in the home directory.
> Am I doing something wrong?
>
>> On Oct 5, 2022, at 08:37, Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list at redhat.com> wrote:
>>
>> If 'bash' is your login shell, try adding the TDSR startup command to .bash_login in your home directory.  That should avoid the problems Tim indicated when a subshell is invoked.
>>
>> You may have to create that file if it doesn't exist.  It is documented in the 'bash' manual page.
>>
>>
>> On 10/5/2022 1:17 AM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>>> Or might it be easier to install espeakup, or install Fenrir?
>>> I welcome anyone's ideas.
>>>
>>>> On Oct 4, 2022, at 15:31, Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list at redhat.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Maybe better to keep logging in, go to cd tdsr,
>>>> then type
>>>> ./tdsr
>>>> cd ..
>>>> as I already do.
>>>> What you had written is far too advanced for me, but thank you.
>>>>
>>>>> On Oct 4, 2022, at 08:46, Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list at redhat.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Tim here.  It's a little tricky because, without additional
>>>>> precautions, you open a shell which launches tdsr, which opens a
>>>>> shell inside of it, which launches tdsr, which opens a shell
>>>>> which...you get the idea.
>>>>>
>>>>> So there needs to be a way for a shell to determine if it's already
>>>>> inside a running session of tdsr.  This sort of thing is usually
>>>>> done through setting an environment variable.  For example, I've
>>>>> done similarly with "tmux", so I have a check in my startup file
>>>>> (e.g. my ~/.bashrc) that tests
>>>>>
>>>>> [ -z "$TMUX" ] && tmux
>>>>>
>>>>> So first you'd want to see if tdsr sets an environment variable.
>>>>> The documentation might detail this, but if not, you can dump the
>>>>> environment to a file before running tdsr, then run tdsr, then dump
>>>>> the environment to another file and compare them, like
>>>>>
>>>>> $ env | sort > a
>>>>> $ tdsr
>>>>> (tdsr)$ env | sort > b
>>>>> (tdsr)$ comm -13 a b
>>>>>
>>>>> Hopefully this will show a setting something like a "$TDSR" variable
>>>>> that you can check.  Then your ~/.bashrc (or whatever your startup
>>>>> file is) can end with something like
>>>>>
>>>>> [ -z "$TDSR" ] && tdsr
>>>>>
>>>>> Because this can go unfortunately sideways, I recommend having one
>>>>> window/console open, editing your ~/.bashrc and then open a *new*
>>>>> window (or log in at another console) to test it.  If all goes
>>>>> right, yay.  If things go sideways, you can quickly flip back to
>>>>> the first window/console, remove that line from your ~/.bashrc, and
>>>>> (re)save it.  This saves you a LOT of hassle if you accidentally
>>>>> create a loop like described at the top of this email.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Tim
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2022-10-04 08:21, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>>>>>> I have fedora 35, and while in the shell I use tdsr for screen-reader.
>>>>>> To start it, one must use dot slash tdsr.
>>>>>> Is there a way to have this program start whenever logging in at shell?
>>>>>>
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