Konsole progress/any good alternatives?

Wed Oct 19 14:58:33 UTC 2022

Howdy,

i do net get any in or output while typing. are you sure that your 
reading of entered commands is not invoked by key or word echo or similar?
but playing around with review keys i was able to read the content of 
console.  let me take a look at that later. I m not really sure about 
the terminal implementation of orca. Joanie once say its a lot of black 
magic ^^. maybe it needs to be optimized then to match this up.

cheers chrys

Am 19.10.22 um 16:23 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion:
> That's where I got up to with the discussion on the issue, setting the 
> role. I'm not sure if that's done in a recent git commit with 
> Konsole-git however, or even where I'd start looking for the right 
> parts to even start on this one.
>
>
> I'm seeing on my end, both Konsole 22.08 and Konsole-git read my 
> entered commands, like I said but not the output. Where would I read 
> up on what exactly the terminal role does as far as ATK and how it 
> interacts with Orca.
>
> Also, are the input and output areas of Konsole using different 
> settings as far as AT/Orca goes? I'm just trying to figure out why 
> Orca reads one, but not the other even with the incorrect role
>
>
>
> On 10/19/22 15:09, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>> Howdy,
>>
>> Konsole does not have a caret (its an text console what is made for 
>> interacting).
>>
>> Nah issue here is some bug. I see events and text in accerciser. 
>> Maybe wrong accessibility role or something.
>>
>> Cheers chrys
>>
>> Von meinem iPhone gesendet
>>
>>> Am 19.10.2022 um 16:03 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion 
>>> <blinux-list at redhat.com>:
>>>
>>> Just took a look through Konsole's keyboard shortcuts. I didn't see 
>>> anything listed for caret browsing, and hitting F7 on my Arch box 
>>> didn't do a thing. It reads what I'm typing in however, not the 
>>> output so something is being picked up by Orca
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 10/19/22 14:21, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>>>> I think f7 toggles caret browsing and orca has caret browsing off by
>>>> default.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Jude <jdashiel at panix dot com> "There are four boxes to be used in
>>>> defense of liberty:
>>>>   soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
>>>> -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
>>>>
>>>> .
>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, 19 Oct 2022, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I've no clue where to start or the smarts to get anywhere with it 
>>>>> at all, my
>>>>> knowledge of how things interact with Orca starts and ends with 
>>>>> ..is exposed
>>>>> to Orca, past that I've zero clue how to get anything to speak 
>>>>> to/with/via
>>>>> Orca at all. I know what should be happening, sure, but...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 10/19/22 13:34, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:Howdy,
>>>>>> just did a quick look into accerciser. seems that the terminal 
>>>>>> content is
>>>>>> already exposed to AT. So there is at least something in place. 
>>>>>> maybe a
>>>>>> focus is missing or similar.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> cheers chrys
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Am 19.10.22 um 14:25 schrieb chrys:
>>>>>>> Howdy,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> well you can use any terminal emulator. gnome-terminal, 
>>>>>>> mate-terminal,
>>>>>>> lxterminal (i think those are all based on VTE)
>>>>>>> for Konsole, the issue is tracked here.
>>>>>>> https://phabricator.kde.org/T10099
>>>>>>> currently without huge progress. debugging is required. maybe 
>>>>>>> you wanna
>>>>>>> step in :)?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers chrys
>>>>>>> Am 19.10.22 um 12:44 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion:
>>>>>>>> Just checking to see if there's been any movement on Konsole 
>>>>>>>> yet, or if
>>>>>>>> not what a good alternative would be that works nicely with 
>>>>>>>> KDE? I like
>>>>>>>> lxterminal, but I'm after something with more eatures and that 
>>>>>>>> works
>>>>>>>> nicely with Plasma
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hoping for Konsole to work with Orca since KDE 5.26.11's fixed 
>>>>>>>> a few
>>>>>>>> nagging issues with the desktop. I've not seen a new version 
>>>>>>>> land in
>>>>>>>> Arch's repos or Konsole at all, any repo and I'm unsure if 
>>>>>>>> Konsole-git has
>>>>>>>> any improvements as far as Orca goes
>>>>>>>>
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