Konsole progress/any good alternatives?

[Linux for blind general discussion]

Aha, it was word echo.

How are you reading the output? All I get is terminal, layered pane then 
the buttons and nothing else, no output with the review keys at all.

Do you have a settting in the .profile or env variables I don't, and 
which version are you able to use the review keys on?

On 10/19/22 15:58, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
> Howdy,
>
> i do net get any in or output while typing. are you sure that your 
> reading of entered commands is not invoked by key or word echo or 
> similar?
> but playing around with review keys i was able to read the content of 
> console.  let me take a look at that later. I m not really sure about 
> the terminal implementation of orca. Joanie once say its a lot of 
> black magic ^^. maybe it needs to be optimized then to match this up.
>
> cheers chrys
>
> Am 19.10.22 um 16:23 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion:
>> That's where I got up to with the discussion on the issue, setting 
>> the role. I'm not sure if that's done in a recent git commit with 
>> Konsole-git however, or even where I'd start looking for the right 
>> parts to even start on this one.
>>
>>
>> I'm seeing on my end, both Konsole 22.08 and Konsole-git read my 
>> entered commands, like I said but not the output. Where would I read 
>> up on what exactly the terminal role does as far as ATK and how it 
>> interacts with Orca.
>>
>> Also, are the input and output areas of Konsole using different 
>> settings as far as AT/Orca goes? I'm just trying to figure out why 
>> Orca reads one, but not the other even with the incorrect role
>>
>>
>>
>> On 10/19/22 15:09, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>>> Howdy,
>>>
>>> Konsole does not have a caret (its an text console what is made for 
>>> interacting).
>>>
>>> Nah issue here is some bug. I see events and text in accerciser. 
>>> Maybe wrong accessibility role or something.
>>>
>>> Cheers chrys
>>>
>>> Von meinem iPhone gesendet
>>>
>>>> Am 19.10.2022 um 16:03 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion 
>>>> <blinux-list at redhat.com>:
>>>>
>>>> Just took a look through Konsole's keyboard shortcuts. I didn't 
>>>> see anything listed for caret browsing, and hitting F7 on my Arch 
>>>> box didn't do a thing. It reads what I'm typing in however, not the 
>>>> output so something is being picked up by Orca
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On 10/19/22 14:21, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>>>>> I think f7 toggles caret browsing and orca has caret browsing off by
>>>>> default.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Jude <jdashiel at panix dot com> "There are four boxes to be used in
>>>>> defense of liberty:
>>>>>   soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
>>>>> -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
>>>>>
>>>>> .
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, 19 Oct 2022, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've no clue where to start or the smarts to get anywhere with it 
>>>>>> at all, my
>>>>>> knowledge of how things interact with Orca starts and ends with 
>>>>>> ..is exposed
>>>>>> to Orca, past that I've zero clue how to get anything to speak 
>>>>>> to/with/via
>>>>>> Orca at all. I know what should be happening, sure, but...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 10/19/22 13:34, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:Howdy,
>>>>>>> just did a quick look into accerciser. seems that the terminal 
>>>>>>> content is
>>>>>>> already exposed to AT. So there is at least something in place. 
>>>>>>> maybe a
>>>>>>> focus is missing or similar.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> cheers chrys
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Am 19.10.22 um 14:25 schrieb chrys:
>>>>>>>> Howdy,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> well you can use any terminal emulator. gnome-terminal, 
>>>>>>>> mate-terminal,
>>>>>>>> lxterminal (i think those are all based on VTE)
>>>>>>>> for Konsole, the issue is tracked here.
>>>>>>>> https://phabricator.kde.org/T10099
>>>>>>>> currently without huge progress. debugging is required. maybe 
>>>>>>>> you wanna
>>>>>>>> step in :)?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cheers chrys
>>>>>>>> Am 19.10.22 um 12:44 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion:
>>>>>>>>> Just checking to see if there's been any movement on Konsole 
>>>>>>>>> yet, or if
>>>>>>>>> not what a good alternative would be that works nicely with 
>>>>>>>>> KDE? I like
>>>>>>>>> lxterminal, but I'm after something with more eatures and that 
>>>>>>>>> works
>>>>>>>>> nicely with Plasma
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hoping for Konsole to work with Orca since KDE 5.26.11's fixed 
>>>>>>>>> a few
>>>>>>>>> nagging issues with the desktop. I've not seen a new version 
>>>>>>>>> land in
>>>>>>>>> Arch's repos or Konsole at all, any repo and I'm unsure if 
>>>>>>>>> Konsole-git has
>>>>>>>>> any improvements as far as Orca goes
>>>>>>>>>
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