[Container-tools] Atomic CLI + Atomicapp workflow

[Tomas Kral]

On 11/05/2015 11:14 AM, Ratnadeep Debnath wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 5, 2015 at 12:23 PM, Daniel J Walsh <dwalsh at redhat.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 11/04/2015 01:38 PM, Dusty Mabe wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/04/2015 06:25 AM, Lalatendu Mohanty wrote:
>>>> On 11/04/2015 07:15 AM, Dusty Mabe wrote:
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> I've had conversations over the past few weeks with many of you
>>>>> about atomicapp and running it through Atomic CLI. Basically the
>>>>> problem is that the INSTALL/RUN/STOP labels are a bit fragile and we
>>>>> have seen breakage a few times as a result. In the discussions we
>>>>> have talked about better alternatives and I think this is what we'd
>>>>> like to go with in the future:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1 - the only case where atomic cli needs to work is for running
>>>>> `atomic run <appname>` any other piece of the puzzle WILL be handled
>>>>> by the atomicapp cli (excludes openshift use case)
>>>>> 2 - people can use the atomicapp cli to do
>>>>> unpack/install/run/uninstall/etc... whatever the tool supports they
>>>>> can do it
>>>>> 3 - people can use atomicapp cli from an installed rpm OR from an
>>>>> alias that runs a docker container to run the cli
> 
> I am not sure if it's a good idea to expose two different commands:
> atomic CLI and atomicapp to the user.
> 
>> What does atomicapp expect to happen when  you do an atomic stop?  You
>> want the STOP label to run even if there is no container?  You don't
>> want to specify a container?
> 
> A nulecule is a collection of many containers or similar entities. I'd
> envision that running a nulecule app generates a nulecule ID, which
> gets used for post install operations like "stop", apart from the
> ability to start and stop a nulecule app from path. The ID could be
> just a dir under /var/lib/atomicapp which contains the installed and
> extracted nulecule app.

I think this is great idea.
Idea is that it would look like this?:

atomic install helloapache
#...
#Your application resides in /var/lib/atomicapp/helloapache-9cb2a3704f1d
#Your application ID is 9cb2a3704f1d

atomic run helloapache 9cb2a3704f1d
atomic stop helloapache 9cb2a3704f1d



> 
> 
>> My fear now is that we are breaking this up to where atomic and
>> atomicapp will compete against each other.  And users will need to know
>> for this type of container I run atomicapp and for this other type of
>> container I run atomic.
> 
> +1
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> rtnpro
> 
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Tomas Kral