[dm-devel] Reply-to munging
Phillip Susi
psusi at cfl.rr.com
Mon Jul 2 19:55:56 UTC 2007
Alasdair G Kergon wrote:
> And here are some counter-arguments:
> http://www.metasystema.net/essays/reply-to.mhtml
And they would be wrong:
> The Principle of Minimal Bandwidth
I don't see how forcing a reply that otherwise was intended to go only
to one recipient to be sent out to the entire list saves bandwidth.
> Reply-To Munging Adds Something
No, it does not; it takes away something. If you want to reply publicly
then you use reply-to-all. It is up to the SENDER to set their
Reply-To: header if they do NOT want a reply going to them as well as
the list. They should make that choice, not the replier. Users also
are supposed to be able to use Reply-To: to direct replies to the
correct sender in the event that they forward a message on someone
else's behalf. Thirdly, munging the header breaks the reply
functionality of the client by making it behave like reply-to-all.
> It Doesn't Break Reasonable Mailers
Yes, it does. This argument boils down to "Breaking the reply function
isn't really breaking it because some mailers have added a
reply-ignoring-broken-munged-reply-to function that you can use
instead". If the headers weren't munged in the first place this option
would not be needed.
> Freedom of Choice
This one could not be more of a bold faced lie. The only "freedom" it
adds is the replier's freedom to take away the freedom of the sender and
force a reply only to the list despite their wishes otherwise, as
reflected by the reply-to: header they did or did not set.
> Some Mailers are Broken
Same fallacious argument as "It Doesn't Break Reasonable Mailers". It
is mailing lists that munge that are broken, not clients that have not
added a 3rd reply option specifically to deal with such broken lists.
> Principle of Least Total Work
Again, it is up to the poster to decide if they want a reply directly to
them, or only to the list, not the replier. If they want their own
reply, then give it to them.
> People are Responsible for Their Own Mistakes
This item simply dismisses the principal of least surprise in favor of
codling the ignorant. User mistakes are no longer their fault when your
mailing list causes an unexpected change in the behavior of their mailer.
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