[dm-devel] Re: [PATCH] Implement barrier support for single device DM devices
David Chinner
dgc at sgi.com
Sun Feb 17 23:31:23 UTC 2008
On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 04:07:54PM +0300, Michael Tokarev wrote:
> Alasdair G Kergon wrote:
> > On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 01:08:21PM +0100, Andi Kleen wrote:
> >> Implement barrier support for single device DM devices
> >
> > Thanks. We've got some (more-invasive) dm patches in the works that
> > attempt to use flushing to emulate barriers where we can't just
> > pass them down like that.
>
> I wonder if it's worth the effort to try to implement this.
>
> As far as I understand (*), if a filesystem realizes that the
> underlying block device does not support barriers, it will
> switch to using regular flushes instead
No, typically the filesystems won't issue flushes, either.
> - isn't it the same
> thing as you're trying to do on an MD level?
>
> Note that a filesystem must understand barriers/flushes on
> underlying block device, since many disk drives don't support
> barriers anyway.
>
> (*) this is, in fact, an interesting question. I still can't
> find complete information about this. For example, how safe
> xfs is if barriers are not supported or turned off? Is it
> "less safe" than with barriers? Will it use regular cache
> flushes if barriers are not here?
Try reading at the XFS FAQ:
http://oss.sgi.com/projects/xfs/faq/#wcache
Cheers,
Dave.
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Dave Chinner
Principal Engineer
SGI Australian Software Group
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