Log from todays (200700808) EPEL SIG Meeting

Wed Aug 8 17:28:11 UTC 2007

00:00:16 <       knurd> | Meeting ping dgilmore, Jeff_S, knurd, mmcgrath, nirik, stahnma, quaid and everyone interested in EPEL -- EPEL meeting in #fedora-meeting now!
00:00:16            --- | knurd has changed the topic to: EPEL Sig meeting -- Meeting rules at http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/Schedule/MeetingGuidelines -- Init process
00:00:22 <    mmcgrath> | pong
00:01:00              * | dgilmore is here
00:01:01 <       knurd> | quaid is traveling
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00:01:38 <       knurd> | hmmm
00:01:40 <       knurd> | that's not much
00:01:50 <       knurd> | we maybe should do more stuff on the list
00:01:56 <       knurd> | and less in the meeting
00:02:08 <    mmcgrath> | or move meetings to every other week?
00:02:22 <       knurd> | seems we don't get all hte importatn or interested people into the meeting
00:02:44 <       knurd> | so maybe doing them only every two week and instead finish some stuff on the list might be easier for everyone
00:02:49 <       knurd> | just a thought
00:02:52 <       knurd> | mmcgrath, yeah
00:03:21              * | dgilmore like fortnightly meetings 
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00:04:11 <       knurd> | and mailing lists don't have timezone-problems ;-)
00:04:25 <       knurd> | I'll think about it some more and write to the list about it
00:04:25 <    mmcgrath> | Thats true
00:04:53 <       knurd> | anyway, let's do a quick meeting even with three people from the steering committee
00:05:01            --- | knurd has changed the topic to: EPEL Meeting|new push scripts for pushing to testing, adjust mock configs to use testing -- dgilmore
00:05:08 <       knurd> | dgilmore, and progress?
00:06:08 <    dgilmore> | knurd: not had a chance yet.  i need pinging on it one night
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00:06:24 <    dgilmore> | right now im concentrating on enabling secondary archs
00:06:32 <       knurd> | dgilmore, I#d offer to help, but I don#t really know how things are working together
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00:06:55 <    dgilmore> | knurd: it should take about 30 mins or so work.
00:06:57 <       knurd> | but I could update the builders if that is any help (and if I have access to the config files)
00:07:06 <    dgilmore> | mostly i need reminding when i can do the work
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00:07:27 <    dgilmore> | i cant do it during the day here
00:07:28 <       knurd> | dgilmore, shall I ping you one every two days?
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00:07:45 <       knurd> | (no, I don#t take that serious)
00:07:52 <    dgilmore> | knurd: if you can ping me first thing in the morning there would help
00:08:01 <       knurd> | dgilmore, k, I'll try
00:08:03 <    mmcgrath> | :)
00:08:07 <       knurd> | dgilmore, thx for your help
00:08:38 <       knurd> | mmcgrath, dgilmore, do we want to discuss "yum in EPEL4" or "branch for EPEL if Fedora maintainer does not react"?
00:09:07 <       knurd> | or anything else?
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00:09:41 <    dgilmore> | knurd: we agreed on the Branch for EPEL  issue last week
00:10:02 <       knurd> | ohh, we did?
00:10:08 <    dgilmore> | yum i think we should put it in make sure its less than CentOS version and not ship a yum.conf file
00:10:09 <       knurd> | I thought the plan was to continue on the list
00:10:24 <       knurd> | dgilmore and I raised some concerns
00:10:27 <    dgilmore> | knurd: no we agreed to what i posted and what is in the wiki
00:10:36 <    dgilmore> | with a revisit if we need to
00:10:44 <    mmcgrath> | I think that was a miscommunication between the meeting and the list, I was under the impression it was settled as well.
00:10:47 <    dgilmore> | knurd: i missed your concerns
00:11:02 <       knurd> | dgilmore, send it to the list two days ago
00:11:24 <       knurd> | dgilmore, well, take a look at it and tell me what you think
00:11:29 <       knurd> | it's not that important
00:11:46 <       knurd> | and can wait a bit more 
00:11:55 <       knurd> | so, shall we close the meeting for today?
00:12:15 <    dgilmore> | knurd: sorry i wasnt clear the Fedora maintainer becomes comainter in EPEL
00:12:28 <    dgilmore> | so the EPEL maintainer remains primary maintainer for EPEL
00:12:33 <       knurd> | yeah, maybe I just got something wrong
00:12:41 <       knurd> | ahh, okay; 
00:13:05 <       knurd> | was that just me beeing stupid or could/should the wording be improved?
00:13:12 <       knurd> | if the latter: just do it
00:13:55 <    dgilmore> | I assumed by Fedora Maintainer becomes Comaintainer that it was clear.
00:13:58 <       knurd> | (no need to approve each and every detail in a meeting)
00:14:03 <    dgilmore> | perhaps thats a language thing
00:14:07 <       knurd> | dgilmore, I'll take another look
00:14:10 <       knurd> | dgilmore, yeah, likely
00:14:13 <       knurd> | anyway
00:14:18              * | knurd will close the meeting in 60
00:14:48 <       knurd> | dgilmore, mmcgrath, I assume closing is fine for you?
00:14:51              * | knurd will close the meeting in 30
00:14:56 <    dgilmore> | knurd: thats fine
00:15:02 <    mmcgrath> | knurd: yeah, there's just not much going on that have decisions to be made I guess :)
00:15:10 <       knurd> | yeah
00:15:13              * | knurd will close the meeting in 10
00:15:37              * | knurd will close the meeting in n
00:15:37            --- | knurd has changed the topic to: EPEL Meeting -- Free discussion around EPEL
00:15:37 <       knurd> | -- MARK -- Meeting end
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00:15:50 <    mmcgrath> | buhahahah
00:15:58 <    mmcgrath> | knurd: thanks for hosting the meeting
00:15:58            --- | knurd has changed the topic to: Channel is used by various Fedora groups and committees for their regular meetings | Note that meetings often get logged | See http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/FedoraMeetingChannel for meeting schedule
00:16:06 <       knurd> | dgilmore, mmcgrath thx
00:16:07 <    mmcgrath> | Jeff_S: this amused me -
00:16:08 <      Jeff_S> | grr
00:16:12 <    mmcgrath> | 11:16 < knurd> -- MARK -- Meeting end
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00:16:13 <       knurd> | mmcgrath, that was a quick one
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00:16:19 <       knurd> | hehe
00:16:23 <      Jeff_S> | sorry guys, it's been a busy morning :(
00:16:25 <    mmcgrath> | It was literally a second or two difference :)
00:16:27 <    mmcgrath> | Jeff_S: no worries
00:16:36 <       knurd> | Jeff_S, np
00:16:45 <       knurd> | Jeff_S, we just discussed a bit to do more on the list
00:16:54 <      Jeff_S> | ok
00:17:09              * | Jeff_S has very good or very bad timing depending on how you look at it ;)
00:17:09 <       knurd> | dgilmore, mentioned "yum i think we should put it in make sure its less than CentOS version and not ship a yum.conf file"
00:17:27 <       knurd> | Jeff_S, would that " not ship a yum.conf file" work?
00:18:15 <      Jeff_S> | hmmm... maybe? :)  I think that perhaps shipping it with an empty file with only a comment regarding "this is from EPEL, it won't work with RHEL unless you make some changes, blah blah"
00:18:31 <      Jeff_S> | but we can discuss on list since I missed the meeting...
00:18:37 <       knurd> | Jeff_S, could you just try so we know?
00:18:53 <      Jeff_S> | well, I don't have any RHEL boxes, but I could try on centos
00:19:11 <       knurd> | Jeff_S, should be good enough I'd say
00:19:13 <      Jeff_S> | anyone have a RHEL box they would let me screw up?
00:19:35              * | knurd has no RHEL4 boxes
00:20:08 <      Jeff_S> | no problem, I'll test it out on centos and see what happens