openmotif in RHEL versus lesstif in fedora

Patrice Dumas pertusus at
Sat Aug 11 08:07:31 UTC 2007

On Fri, Aug 10, 2007 at 06:57:16PM -0600, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
> That would be best done on a list that has RHEL engineers and product
> managers on. Not sure if any of them are on here. It is usually

I hope so. EPEL is something they should definitely be interested in,
not everyone of them, but at least some. And have seen quite a lot of
posts that seemed to originate from people at Red Hat involved in RHEL.
Maybe I am wrong, though.

> something that I have seen done via customer interactiosn with
> sales/etc. versus mail lists.

EPEL is new, and hopefully will attract attention from RHEL people.

> Also there isnt a discrepency in that Motif was in FC5, pre FC6 when
> RHEL-5 branched from Fedora. OpenMotif was dropped before FC6 I think
> when a license review was done about what met Fedora's license goals.

Exactly. That's why I said that this discrepancy wasn't an issue as is,
but since what is planned in RHEL 6 isn't clear to me, it may make

> I think the issue is dead in Fedora unless OpenMotif gets relicensed.

No, Fedora is open to change... Hopefully. This change wasn't
consensual, openmotif could be considered more free than lesstif even
though a clause renders it non free as defined by the OSI, this clause
is about non interacting with proprietary software, so it may be seen as
something that renders it even more radically free, something ala GPL vs
BSD. I am not saying that it is my advice, but it is an exception that
wouldn't hurt Fedora goals, accepting proprietary firmware is certainly
(in my opinion) much more debatable.

> More than likely if motif is shipped in EL-6 (maybe 1.5 years from
> now).. it would be done via what the paying customers have asked Red
> Hat to use.

In that case it will likely be openmotif. But it would be nice to have
somebody in charge to coordinate with/get informations from.


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