Log from this weeks (20071205) EPEL SIG Meeting

Thorsten Leemhuis fedora at leemhuis.info
Thu Dec 6 12:06:57 UTC 2007


Reminder: Next meeting on 20071219 at 18:00 UTC

Summary will be part of this weeks report (as always)

00:00:29 <       knurd> | Hi everybody; who's around for the EPEL meeting?
00:00:29              * | knurd likes to remind everyone that the schedule for todays meeting as well as a list of all open tasks can be found on http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/EPEL/Schedule 
00:00:29            --- | knurd has changed the topic to: EPEL Sig meeting -- Meeting rules at http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/Schedule/MeetingGuidelines -- Init process
00:00:35 <    mmcgrath> | pong
00:00:48            --- | couf_afk is now known as couf
00:00:49              * | nirik is here. 
00:01:12 <       knurd> | dgilmore, are you aroung for a quick builder status update?
00:01:44 <    dgilmore> | knurd: havent had a chace to look at it yet
00:01:55 <       knurd> | any rough ETA?
00:01:59 <       knurd> | can we help somehow?
00:02:05 <    mmcgrath> | dgilmore: extras dies permanently on Friday right?
00:02:11 <    mmcgrath> | err FC6/extras
00:02:17 <       nirik> | yep...
00:02:37 <       knurd> | then we are the only ones left on plague and the old scripts
00:02:48              * | knurd wonders when this will start creating trouble
00:02:49 <    dgilmore> | mmcgrath: yes
00:03:17 <    dgilmore> | i need to disable FC-6 builds on friday
00:03:49            --- | knurd has changed the topic to: EPEL SIG Meeting | KojiAndBodhiForEpel | unassigned | http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/EPEL/Tasks/KojiAndBodhiForEpel
00:04:06              * | mmcgrath sends an email to see about getting an intern to do our koji/bodhi stuff.
00:04:24              * | knurd applauds mmcgrath
00:04:29 <       knurd> | mmcgrath, sounds good
00:04:50 <       knurd> | but we should someone from EPEL that avilable for questions and act as contac person
00:04:53 <    mmcgrath> | I figure it couldn't hurt :)
00:04:54 <       knurd> | any volunteers?
00:05:24 <       nirik> | well, I don't think the problem is lack of help from the epel side... I think it's lack of time from the koji developers.
00:05:57              * | mmcgrath can do that coordination for the upgrades.
00:05:59 <       knurd> | nirik, yes, but I think it would be good to have a contact person for questions
00:06:12 <       knurd> | and someone that pokes the right people now and then to make sure things are moving
00:06:29 <       nirik> | I'd be happy to help anyone I can... I did file a RFE in the koji bug tracking system.
00:06:29 <       knurd> | mmcgrath, which upgrades?
00:06:53 <       knurd> | nirik, I know; but poking people now and then often is needed :-/
00:07:09 <       knurd> | that's why I'd assign that task to someone if possible
00:07:13 <    mmcgrath> | the coding changes to bodhi and koji
00:07:23 <    dgilmore> | nirik: there is nothing stopping someone from epel doing the dev work
00:07:44              * | quaid is here
00:07:51 <       nirik> | true... if we can find someone with the time and ability...
00:08:13              * | knurd is on holiday right now, but I'm not a programmer, so I'm no help, sorry
00:08:54 <       knurd> | mmcgrath, can you keep a eye on the koji stuff for epel maybe?
00:09:05 <       knurd> | you seem to know where to ask ;)
00:09:32 <    mmcgrath> | knurd: yeah, at this point with FC6 going away its going to become an Infrastructure priority anyway, count me in as point man.
00:09:43 <       knurd> | mmcgrath, k, many thx
00:09:52            --- | knurd has changed the topic to: EPEL SIG Meeting | RHEL 5.1 (and 4.6) for the builders | dgilmore, mmcgrath | http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/EPEL/Tasks/Misc
00:09:59 <       knurd> | dgilmore, is there anythign we can help?
00:10:17 <       knurd> | I suppose I don't have access top the machines
00:10:19 <    dgilmore> | knurd: slap me upside the head and make the days 36 hours long
00:10:44 <    mmcgrath> | dgilmore: heh.
00:10:50 <       knurd> | dgilmore, well, I tried that with the 36 hour days for me, but I didn't find the trick to make it work
00:10:52 <       knurd> | ;)
00:12:01 <       knurd> | I was in some of the sysadmin-builds group
00:12:11 <       knurd> | should that give me access where needed?
00:12:19 <       knurd> | then I could at least do some preparation
00:12:30 <       knurd> | download RHEL, extract, ...
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00:12:55 <    mmcgrath> | knurd: give me a week on that, we may have an easy way to do it.
00:13:10 <       knurd> | mmcgrath, k; I just would like to get it done over the next week or two
00:13:18 <       knurd> | as people were asking for it some weeks ago already
00:13:20 <       knurd> | thx mmcgrath 
00:13:21              * | mmcgrath would as well.
00:13:23              * | knurd moves on
00:13:37            --- | knurd has changed the topic to: EPEL SIG Meeting | testing -> stable move for EL5 | knurd | http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/EPEL/Tasks/NextTestingStableMove
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00:13:49 <       knurd> | I prepared the next move for EPEL5
00:13:51              * | nirik thinks that looks fine. 
00:14:11 <       nirik> | knurd: can you write up how you are preping those stable pushes somewhere? I would be happy to do them sometimes if you like...
00:14:12 <       knurd> | I thought it would be a good time, now that 5.1 is out from both RH and CentOS
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00:14:28 <       knurd> | nirik, I did it a bit different this time
00:14:37 <       knurd> | needs some fine tuning
00:14:42 <       knurd> | then I'll write it up
00:14:53 <       nirik> | ok, no worries.
00:15:13 <       knurd> | hope this "new" way is a bit easier
00:15:28 <       knurd> | k, anythign else regarding this?
00:15:41            --- | knurd has changed the topic to: EPEL SIG Meeting | RHEL MetaData | stahnma | http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/EPEL/Tasks/RhelMetaData
00:15:52 <       knurd> | stahnma not around, skipping
00:16:02 <       knurd> | but this topic isn't moving at all
00:16:05 <       knurd> | that sucks :-/
00:16:33 <       knurd> | but well, that's life sometimes
00:16:36              * | knurd moves on
00:16:37            --- | knurd has changed the topic to: EPEL SIG Meeting | update http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/EPEL/GuidelinesAndPolicies | unassigned | http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/EPEL/Tasks/Misc
00:16:51 <       knurd> | anyone willing to update the page to the new world order?
00:16:55 <       knurd> | it's a bit outdated
00:16:59 <       nirik> | what needs updating on it?
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00:17:13              * | nirik looks
00:17:30 <       knurd> | not sure
00:17:39 <       knurd> | it has some stuff like "quarterly updates" 
00:17:45 <       knurd> | which we don't do anymore
00:17:54 <       nirik> | ok. I can try and update that page.
00:18:01              * | nirik adds a task to his tasklist. 
00:18:16 <       knurd> | nirik, thx
00:18:26            --- | knurd has changed the topic to: EPEL SIG Meeting | Free discussion around EPEL
00:18:40 <       knurd> | FYI, I'm going throught the list of packages missing in EPEL
00:18:46 <       knurd> | and adding them to the wishlist
00:18:49 <       knurd> | mailing maintainers
00:18:53 <       knurd> | and such stuff
00:19:07 <       nirik> | I'd like to throw out a plea for a reviewer for my clamav for epel package... https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=396171
00:19:11 <     buggbot> | Bug 396171: medium, medium, ---, Nobody's working on this, feel free to take it, NEW , Review Request: clamav - Anti-virus software (for EPEL)
00:19:37 <       nirik> | I also have been working on getting munin in... cleaned up the fedora package and am working on the requirements for epel.
00:20:07 <       knurd> | sounds good
00:20:37 <       nirik> | I'd like to get clamav in, but I fear people are afraid because it's not the same as the fedora package. Or that it is and they would have to review that...
00:20:49              * | knurd puts "reviewing clamav" on his todo list somewhere in the middle
00:21:18 <       nirik> | I have tested it and it upgrades from the old old old version fine.
00:21:36 <       knurd> | I've never used it
00:21:52 <       knurd> | put well, reviewing is mainly about checking aginst the guidlines
00:21:58 <       nirik> | yeah.
00:22:15 <       knurd> | anything else?
00:22:36 <       knurd> | what about my discussion with Patrice about audacious?
00:22:39              * | nirik has nothing off hand. 
00:22:44 <       knurd> | was that fine for everyone?
00:22:45 <    mmcgrath> | knurd: if I can get the 5.1 stuff done, do you want me to just do it and send a notification that its done?
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00:22:54 <       knurd> | mmcgrath, yeah, sure
00:23:04 <       knurd> | mmcgrath, can you prepare 4.6 as well while at it?
00:23:14 <       knurd> | then we can just do the switch once CentOS 4.6 is out
00:24:02 <    mmcgrath> | possibly.  The method for preparint the two is very different.
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00:24:10              * | nirik thinks the audacious thread was fine. 
00:24:11 <       knurd> | quaid, do you need anything for your "recruiting" stuff?
00:24:50 <       knurd> | mmcgrath, well, 4.6 is not that urgent; just ignore it for now if there are more urgent things
00:25:00 <    mmcgrath> | <nod>
00:25:26 <       knurd> | k, anything else?
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00:25:50              * | knurd will close the meeting in 30
00:26:20              * | knurd will close the meeting in 3
00:26:30 <       knurd> | -- MARK -- Meeting end
00:26:30            --- | knurd has changed the topic to: Channel is used by various Fedora groups and committees for their regular meetings | Note that meetings often get logged | For questions about using Fedora please ask in #fedora | See http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/FedoraMeetingChannel for meeting schedule
00:26:33 <       knurd> | thx everyone
00:26:33 <    mmcgrath> | Win!
00:26:36 <       nirik> | thanks knurd
00:26:55              * | nirik notes that updating clamav will close 14 open security issues
00:27:19 <       knurd> | me moved "clamav review" a bitt higher on his todo list
00:28:20 <       knurd> | nirik, feel free to poke me on saturday if I didn#t do anything
00:28:27 <       knurd> | regarding clamav
00:28:49              * | knurd now kicks the livna builders
00:28:50 <       nirik> | ok, no worries... I might try a post to the epel list too now to see if anyone is interested...
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00:31:42 <       quaid> | knurd: thanks, I'll do the recruiting stuff on list
00:31:50 <       knurd> | quaid, k
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00:34:04 <     stahnma> | are we there yet?
00:34:13              * | stahnma is late
00:34:16 <     stahnma> | or early
00:34:34 <     stahnma> | 30 min late....
00:34:35 <     stahnma> | ok
00:34:38 <     stahnma> | well, thanks
00:35:50 <       quaid> | stahnma: yeah, I think this is the first week I got it right and on time
00:36:51            --- | dwmw2_gone is now known as dwmw2
00:37:43 <       knurd> | sorry, my plan was to ping people in advance one hour
00:37:49 <       knurd> | but well, I forgot :-/
00:38:49 <       knurd> | stahnma, regardign the meta data
00:38:58 <       knurd> | how about simply starting somewhere?
00:39:05 <     stahnma> | after I sent out the use-case email,I haven't done much
00:39:19 <     stahnma> | I was planning to look into more, I just haven't gotten to it yet
00:39:23 <     stahnma> | I will start
00:39:27 <     stahnma> | and write up on the wiki
00:39:32 <       knurd> | do a "repoquery -qa" maybe and upload the result
00:39:32 <     stahnma> | what the immediate plans are
00:39:39 <     stahnma> | sounds like a plan
00:39:40 <       knurd> | link it from the wiki
00:39:55 <     stahnma> | ok
00:39:56 <       knurd> | maybe some other repoquery runs as well




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