dag, axel somefrom from centos, let's please meet on LinuxTag (Re: Log from yesterdays (20070523) EPEL SIG meeting)

Lance Davis lance at centos.org
Sat May 26 09:42:26 UTC 2007


On Sat, 26 May 2007, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote:

> Hi all!
>
> On 24.05.2007 18:43, Dag Wieers wrote:
>> On Thu, 24 May 2007, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote:
>> [...]
>> Secondly, someone brings up that both atrpms and rpmforge do not longer
>> use a repotag, which is NOT true. We had the intention to drop it after
>> Fedora/EPEL Refused to consider it. And now they use our intention (which
>> is not yet policy) as a reason to refuse it.
>>
>> Sigh. Can someone hand me the cluestick ?
>
> I'm willing to, because I'm quite unhappy with that meeting and some of
> the statements that were made by EPEL Contributors and other Fedora
> contributors -- I was not present during that phase of the meeting
> (Sorry, real life); so in other words:
>
>>> 00:39 <    mmcgrath> | If I removed this item from the schedule right
>>> now... who would bring it up next week?
> [...]
>>> 00:40 <       nirik> | knurd: would you re-add it?
>
> Yes, I would and sooner or later. But I'm unsure if we should have a IRC
> meeting next weeks because afaics mmcgrath and I are on LinuxTag and
> likely not near a keyboard (see also below).
>
> Further: I'm actually so unhappy with the current situation that I'm
> willing to invest even more work to get repotags in EPEL4 and EPEL5 and
> will leave EPEL if we don't get them. I'd even go a step further and say
> now that I'll leave EPEL if we don't find a peaceful way of co-existence
> with Dag and Axel and CentOS. Maybe we can even get back to the drawing
> boards and find a way to cooperate.
>
>> It's nice that the meetings are done in an open fashion, it shows that the
>> EPEL mentality is the same as the Fedora Extras mentality.
>
> Please do not confuse opinions expressed by individuals with a general
> "EPEL mentality". Sure, those people are part of EPEL, but in big groups
> there are alway lot's of different opinions.
>
> So, as I said, I'm quite unhappy with the current EPEL state -- just as
> Dag, Axel and some others are.
>
> I'd really like to find a way out of this mess. Dag (you are on LinuxTAG
> afaik) and Axel (are you there or could we meet? maybe in the evenings
> if that's easier for you), can we please meet one or two hours on
> LinuxTag (Wednesday preferred) and find a way out of this mess that
> afaics to a big part evolved because mail communication sucks. A real
> life meeting maybe could get this mess solved. I'd actually would like
> to have someone around that could speak for CentOS, too. But not much
> more people as stuff might get confusing and unfruitful otherwise.

I will be at linuxtag :)

Regards
Lance

>
> Dag, Axel, what do you think?
>
> CU
> thl
>
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