Update strategy
C.M. Connelly
cmc at math.hmc.edu
Tue May 22 21:19:15 UTC 2007
"TL" == Thorsten Leemhuis <fedora at leemhuis.info>
"SJS" == Stephen John Smoogen
SJS> The early adopters wanted RHEL-5 with additional items
SJS> and some level of replacement. They wanted the newest
SJS> version of say moin, clustering application etc as they
SJS> are usually wanting the best new experience for their
SJS> 'customers'... but want more stability in the
SJS> backend. Most are served by a Fedora or the Red Hat
SJS> Global Desktop.. but may need a core set of items
SJS> (glibc/kernel) stable for some programmatic reason
TL> I'd say those people that only want some new apps and a
TL> stable backend are best served with a local repo for the
TL> apps they need in up2date version or other specific small
TL> repos. They can use the Fedora packages as a base for it;
TL> EPEL probably can't serve those people with todays tools
TL> (yum and co), as each and everyone defines stable backend
TL> differently.
That's about where we are right now. We're running CentOS on
servers and workstations because it's easier to maintain a local
set of packages for one OS (although we're currently spread out
over 3 and 4, with 5 the obvious upgrade path for the summer).
Our users don't need the latest and greatest cutting-edge software
for most things, but it is important that some tools (math-related
applications, TeX system, Subversion, etc.) be very recent.
I do have my own local repo, mostly with packages from Fedora and
Dag's RPMforge, and I expected that I would have to maintain that
for some packages (including packages Fedora can't/won't touch
because of licensing or patent issues but the users demand;
packages for commercial software that we definitely couldn't
distribute; and packages for software that may not be
distributable because of its licensing terms). But I was really
looking forward to having a single source for reasonably
up-to-date packages for the packages that are in Fedora.
From this discussion, it sounds like EPEL is targeting a
completely different set of end users. Given the general
political nastiness surrounding the whole repotags issue, it also
sounds like there isn't much interest in cooperating with the
other third-party repos, which makes EPEL a lot less attractive.
I'm still watching, but I'm leaning toward deciding that EPEL
isn't going to be worth bothering with.
Claire
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Claire Connelly cmc at math.hmc.edu
Systems Administrator (909) 621-8754
Department of Mathematics Harvey Mudd College
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