Meeting minutes/summary from todays EPEL meeting (2011-07-18)

Kevin Fenzi kevin at
Mon Jul 18 20:00:35 UTC 2011

#fedora-meeting: EPEL (2011-07-18)

Meeting started by nirik at 19:30:01 UTC. The full logs are available at

Meeting summary
* init process/agenda  (nirik, 19:30:01)

* Broken Deps reports  (nirik, 19:37:10)

* Bugs and Orphaned Packages  (nirik, 19:44:53)

* Open Floor  (nirik, 19:50:14)

Meeting ended at 19:59:46 UTC.

Action Items

Action Items, by person
  * (none)

People Present (lines said)
* nirik (45)
* abadger1999 (9)
* rsc (8)
* maxamillion (8)
* jlaska (7)
* stahnma (6)
* zodbot (4)
* derks (1)
* smooge (1)
* jness (1)
* athmane (1)
* tremble (0)
19:30:01 <nirik> #startmeeting EPEL (2011-07-18)
19:30:01 <zodbot> Meeting started Mon Jul 18 19:30:01 2011 UTC.  The chair is nirik. Information about MeetBot at
19:30:01 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic.
19:30:01 <nirik> #meetingname epel
19:30:01 <nirik> #topic init process/agenda
19:30:01 <nirik> #chair smooge tremble
19:30:01 <nirik> EPEL meeting ping abadger1999 rsc stahnma tremble dgilmore smooge nb maxamillion tremble Jeff_S HackMan
19:30:01 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'epel'
19:30:01 <zodbot> Current chairs: nirik smooge tremble
19:30:56 * rsc is around
19:31:02 * abadger1999 here
19:31:02 <nirik> any folks have topics for today?
19:31:11 * derks is sort of around
19:31:26 * jness here
19:31:46 * maxamillion is here ... but no topics or pressing issue
19:31:50 <maxamillion> oh! I kind of have one
19:32:32 <maxamillion> package versioning between EPEL and Fedora ... if there's no bugs reported against the EPEL version, should I bother following the Fedora package in the EPEL branch or leave it alone?
19:33:30 <rsc> where's the guy with the MySQL packages?
19:33:33 <nirik> I guess it's up to you as the maintainer, IMHO. If it fixes bugs that EPEL people could hit, and isn't a incompatible upgrade, sure.
19:33:42 <nirik> rsc: he's in #epel, but not here. ;(
19:35:38 * abadger1999 AGREES WITH NIRIK
19:36:05 <nirik> wow... with the caps and all. ;)
19:37:01 <nirik> ok, I have a few random topics we could do...
19:37:10 <nirik> #topic Broken Deps reports
19:37:16 <abadger1999> Oops
19:37:18 <abadger1999> :-)
19:37:27 <nirik> These have been running every week, but not sure the report is getting much smaller.
19:37:34 <nirik> do folks find them useful?
19:37:47 <rsc> I think, there should none of my packages anymore on that list :)
19:38:25 <nirik> rsc: cool. ;)
19:38:38 <nirik> I have one that is a weird multilib issue I need to figure out.
19:38:50 <rsc> nirik: in general the report is helpful, but we need to make sure, that the list gets worked
19:39:05 <nirik> agreed... not sure how to best do that though. ;(
19:39:19 <nirik> oh, that brings up another thing...
19:39:32 <rsc> fixing with provenpackager permissions for now? So rebuild what's missing etc.?
19:39:34 <nirik> jlaska: if you happen to be around... what would the possibility of autoqa coming to epel be? ;)
19:39:50 <nirik> rsc: yeah, I would think that would be completely good.
19:40:05 <athmane> +1 for autoqa
19:40:32 <rsc> +1 for autoqa if there is no controlling of upgrade path, which does not make sense on EPEL.
19:40:35 <rsc> eh
19:40:43 <rsc> upgrade path between EL-4 vs. EL-5 vs. EL-6
19:40:58 <jlaska> nirik: it's packaged for epel now ... but you mean monitoring and running tests for epel builds?
19:41:00 <nirik> right, that test could be left out.
19:41:04 <nirik> jlaska: yeah.
19:41:14 <nirik> for just broken deps I guess.
19:41:27 <jlaska> hmm, epel uses the same mechanisms (koji/bodhi), so perhaps it wouldn't be too much trouble
19:41:43 <nirik> yeah, would be great if it could happen at some point.
19:41:45 <jlaska> I can start the discussion on autoqa-devel at to see if there's something obvious I'm missing ... and we'll go from there
19:41:54 <nirik> thanks!
19:41:58 <jlaska> thanks for raising this topic
19:42:16 <maxamillion> oooo autoqa on EPEL?
19:42:21 <maxamillion> swank
19:42:27 <nirik> one other thing that I noticed recently: no fedora-easy-karma in epel6. ;( Perhaps someone would be willing to try and get that working...
19:42:50 <jlaska> nirik: the desired goal is depcheck results for epel builds?
19:43:23 <nirik> jlaska: yeah, and any other tests that are worthwhile. :) The upgrade path one doesn't make sense...
19:43:57 * jlaska thinks I'd probably need a few additional epel-6 and epel-5 test guests
19:44:08 <jlaska> anyway ... we'll talk on autoqa-devel@
19:44:17 <nirik> ok
19:44:53 <nirik> #topic Bugs and Orphaned Packages
19:45:15 <nirik> Just to note, we are up to 355 bugs in EPEL. ;( I remember when it was under a hundred as not too long ago...
19:45:42 <nirik> also, we should look at our orphans list... a number of packages were orphaned recently due to the FPCA change.
19:45:56 <maxamillion> nirik: ouch
19:46:05 <nirik> perhaps we could drop a list to the list?
19:46:23 <maxamillion> nirik: it couldn't hurt
19:48:09 * nirik looks to see how hard it would be to make such a list.
19:48:24 <maxamillion> bah! have to run afk ... apologies
19:49:06 <nirik> There's a bunch with co-maintainers, but orphaned.
19:49:09 <nirik> will send to the list.
19:50:14 <nirik> #topic Open Floor
19:50:18 <nirik> anything for open floor?
19:50:34 <smooge> What should our general response be on "Wishlist" items?
19:51:24 <nirik> I guess 'step up to do them yourself or convince someone else to'
19:52:08 * stahnma is here finally ;)
19:53:49 <nirik> welcome stahnma
19:53:58 * nirik will close out the meeting in a minute if nothing else.
19:54:03 * stahnma reads out backlog
19:54:07 <stahnma> nirik: I like the dep reports
19:54:12 <stahnma> they are useful
19:54:19 <stahnma> I have a list of things to fix
19:54:28 <stahnma> sadly, with the new job I've had a lot less time to do so
19:55:11 <nirik> abadger1999: can you generate easily a list of packages orphaned (not depreciated) with epel branches? I can't seem to see difference between orphaned and depreciated...
19:55:27 <abadger1999> nirik: status is the difference
19:55:41 <nirik> I was just using the bugzilla acls dump. ;)
19:55:45 <abadger1999> nirik: I think I can write a script to do that.
19:55:47 <abadger1999> <nod>
19:55:52 * abadger1999 checks what's on that.
19:58:58 <nirik> abadger1999: I can work with you out of meeting on that...
19:59:18 <abadger1999> nirik: Sure.  I'll work on a script and let you have it/results after the meeting
19:59:34 <nirik> excellent. No great rush, but would be good to have.
19:59:39 <nirik> ok, thanks for coming everyone!
19:59:46 <nirik> #endmeeting
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