The maximum number of files under a folder
John Nelson
articpenguin3800 at gmail.com
Wed Mar 19 12:16:15 UTC 2008
What does what does the h stand for in h-tree? Like the b in btree is
binary Tree
Stephen Samuel wrote:
> The OS will have to search the directory to see if the file already
> exists before creating it.
>
> Well, if you hash it such that it splits up something like:
> jobid(upper part)/jobid(lower- part)[/-]timestamp-process,
> you'll find that your access times will be must faster (especially if
> you don't use H-Trees). This also applies if you're just creating a
> file, because you'll have to search the entire directory to see if
> that filename exists
>
> With regular directories, searching through them to see if a file
> already exist increases linearly with the number of entries. If you
> hash on 3 levels with 8-bits per level, you'll have to open 2 or 3
> extra inodes, but you'll cut your directory search times down by a
> factor of 20000-1. You'll also skip having to deal with any sort of
> directory-size limit. (=2^24/256/3)
>
> I did something similar on a Solaris box which had 200000 emails in
> the /var/spool/mqueue directory. That many messages was slowing the
> system to a crawl. I hashed it into 100 directories with 2000
> entries each, it sped things up *enormously.*
>
> On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 3:56 PM, Andreas Dilger <adilger at sun.com
> <mailto:adilger at sun.com>> wrote:
>
> On Mar 17, 2008 09:32 -0400, Theodore Ts'o wrote:
> > On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 03:40:36PM +0800, liuyue wrote:
> > > Theodore Tso,
> > >
> > > In 64bit system, directory size can not be bigger than 2GB?
> >
> > No, because the high 32-bits for i_size are overloaded to store the
> > directory creation acl.
>
> I think we should change the code (kernel and e2fsprogs) to allow
> i_size_high for directories also.
>
> > In practice, you really don't want to have a directory that huge
> > anyway. Iterating through it all with readdir() gets horribly slow,
> > and applications that try do anything with really huge directories
> > would be well advised to use a database, because they will get
> *much*
> > better performance that way....
>
> Actually, for many HPC applications they never do readdir at all.
> The job creates 1 file/process and always uses a predefined filename
> like {job}-{timestamp}-{process} that it will directly look up.
>
> Cheers, Andreas
>
>
>
>
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