[fab] Re: Alternatives
Greg DeKoenigsberg
gdk at redhat.com
Tue May 9 14:46:10 UTC 2006
On Tue, 9 May 2006, Rex Dieter wrote:
> Thorsten Leemhuis wrote:
> > /me is late in the discussion -- and it seems everything important is
> > already said.
> >
> > Just to make sure: I also don't like the idea of having kernels in
> > extras or adding a CCRMA-Kernel to core. What I fear most besides the
> > maintenance nightmare: openVZ, vserver, swsusp2, reiser4 <insert 10
> > other projects> would probably want their own Fedora-Kernel in that
> > case, too. And I don't think we really want that ;-)
>
> As I see it, the bigger picture here is whether to resurrect
> Alternatives or not.
>
> If so, the kernel can be treated just like any other alternative (ie,
> core-replacing pkg). As long as someone steps up to maintain it, I have
> no problem with alternative kernels. As a corollary, I'd venture the
> likelihood of volunteers to be kernel maintainers to be small.
>
> Personally, I'm in favor of the general idea of Alternatives, but if
> it's going to happen, it will require a lot of time, care and feeding,
> having its own set of complications and a need for clear standards and
> rules.
And these, of course, are the reasons we ditched it in the first place.
That was before we had a lot of the pieces we have now, though. We're
probably in a better place to do it now... if enough people see the value.
I think they probably would -- but working out sane policy will be quite a
challenge, I think.
Moreover, I'm not sure I see "Alternatives" as a single repo. Rather, I
see "Alternatives" as a way to label various repos. Perhaps a "Fedora
Alternatives" repo is any repo that:
a) Meets the general criteria for Fedora from a freedom perspective;
b) Replaces packages in Core or Extras;
c) Together with Core and Extras, defines a consistent package universe.
I think that trying to reconcile separate "Alternatives" repos to one
another would be complete insanity -- but a responsible Alternative repo
manager could probably maintain 10 or 20 packages in a consistent way.
The biggest problem I see is attribution of bugs that pop up in
Alternatives-based installs. That could be a nightmare.
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