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Re: [fab] Re: splash page + tracking image example

On Thu, 5 Oct 2006, Greg DeKoenigsberg wrote:

> I don't believe we can.  In my opinion, we need *urgently* to start 
> somewhere.  It's the difference between building a funding plan now and 
> building it 6-9 months from now.

This paragraph sums up my concern best.  Greg did a superb job of 
elaborating the issues, so I won't prat on about it, but he is 100% 
correct when he says that any significant Fedora funding decisions require 
stronger metrics than we have been able to provide.

Each day that we don't change that is a day in which we don't do anything 
to help ourselves.

So from a high level I can say something like "I don't want us to ship fc6 
without having some way to track how many people are actually *using* 
fc6".  The firefox idea was a good way to track "Desktop" users -- folks 
who have installed X.

Basically just counting unique IP addresses via yum is a good way to track 
many different types of installations, basically people who are updating 
regardless of their package set.

Those are two very different metrics.  But at this point I'd be happy with 
either.  It just needs to be easily reportable.  And I think it would be 
great if it were publicly-reported.  Even if we just have some little 
piece of code somewhere that counts up logs for unique IP hits and posts 
that number to as webpage.  If we're watching yum, that even tell us which 
version of Fedora is producing the hits, since they will go to a different 

I'd be perfectly fine with that.

In the interest of having this decision be made quickly (but also on this 
list) I nominate Seth, Karsten, Bob Jensen, and Mike McGrath to make the 
call of what they want to do.

Let's just get *something* for fc6.  And then we can do it "right" -- 
firstboot, survey, etc. after that.


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