Coordinate different education spins/efforts?

sebastian at when.com sebastian at when.com
Tue Apr 1 00:33:37 UTC 2008


Hi all,

sorry for the late response, but I am still not back home...

Well, what Karsten says sounds for me pretty good:
I agree, that it might not be necessary to merge the two projects,
but at least, we should talk about a deeper collaboration.

If I got you correctly, the f-edu-l would be the first place for 
education questions in general and questions concerning Fedora and 
education.
The k12-list would be more for technical questions and topics 
concerning the integration of K12LTSP into Fedora.

AFAICS, cleaning the project pages up would be a good idea, too. What 
is old? what should be renewed? Where do we link to which project?
But this incorporates, that we _talk_ about how to do this and how to 
create contents, which do not interfere with each other.

So I think, that working actively together and being connected would be 
a requirement for successful cooperation.
On the other hand, I did not get much feedback from Warren, what he 
thinks about such a plan.

If we would work out the different tasks for each project (further 
education spins, OLPC, K12LTSP, and so on) based on Karstens proposal 
here,
does this sound like an acceptable solution for everybody? Warren?

Sebastian

-----Original Message-----
From: Karsten 'quaid' Wade <kwade at redhat.com>
To: fedora-advisory-board at redhat.com
Sent: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 5:18 pm
Subject: Re: Coordinate different education spins/efforts?

On Fri, 2008-03-28 at 14:25 +0200, Axel Thimm wrote:
> > Both K12Linux and the Edu-Sig have slightly different target
> > audiences/goals afaics, but they are not that different and I 
suppose
> > most users will not understand the difference between "K12Linux is
> > Fedora's spin for educational technology." and "The project aims to
> > optimize Fedora for use at universities and schools as well as for
> > education usage by schoolers or students.".
>
> The way I understand it is that K12Linux is a decendent from K12LTSP
> which was about integrating LTSP into Fedora. The current tag for
> K12Linux is "Using Linux For Your School Server". Furthermore the
> project describes itself more like an upstream project: "K12 Linux is
> really about education, not so much about a particular distro or
> package".
>
> OTOH the education sig is definitely Fedora specific and looks beyond
> server/client connectivity topics. I'm not sure that merging them
> would really benefit the two groups (that certainly do partly 
overlap).

This makes some sense.  I'll take a stab at rolling a middle ground out
of this ...

What if the groups agreed to actively work on being connected to each
other?  As well as cleaning up the project pages so they interlock and
don't appear to contradict.

How to be connected?

* Make f-education-l the place for discussing the meta-topic of Fedora
in education.  On-topic includes:  various spins, OLPC branches,
evangelizing K12LTSP + Fedora, etc.

* Have the K12LTSP list focus on the technical details of making Fedora
a first rate/first class distro for running K12LTSP on top of.  Anything
about general Fedora and education is off-topic and should go to the
f-edu-l list.

Then everyone on the K12LTSP list should subscribe to the f-edu-list,
but the reverse is not needed.  Work is done on that list to work out
interlocked project, feature, and spin pages.

Why this method benefits both parties:

* Gives Ambassadors one, connected story to tell, which
* Makes better connections at events where K12LTSP is present, and
* We can start to look for other, greater connections (Fedora CC
Education Spin, Fedora Blender Spin for Students, etc.)
* Provides technical and social bits for different kinds of contributors
to chew on

- Karsten
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