codec buddy, fluendo, etc.

Stephen John Smoogen smooge at
Fri Feb 8 20:50:20 UTC 2008

On Feb 8, 2008 1:24 PM, seth vidal <skvidal at> wrote:
> On Fri, 2008-02-08 at 15:20 -0500, Matthias Clasen wrote:
> > On Fri, 2008-02-08 at 14:30 -0500, seth vidal wrote:
> > > On Fri, 2008-02-08 at 14:28 -0500, Greg DeKoenigsberg wrote:
> > > > On Fri, 8 Feb 2008, seth vidal wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >> Specific questions to be answered:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> 0.  Invite the Fluendo folks to join.
> > > > >
> > > > > This is a bad idea and it looks like collusion.
> > > >
> > > > Wait... what?  Explain this, because I don't see how transparent
> > > > discussions about user experience equal "collusion".
> > >
> > > do we invite gnome developers to discussion about gnome in the distro?
> > > Not generally.
> >
> > I beg your pardon ? I would ask you to reconsider that position. You may
> > be a member of the board, but you are not the ruler who takes decisions
> > above the heads of the affected people.
> >
> okay, I'm deeply confused here. This is the second time today that
> someone has taken an email from me as a declaration from on high.
> Is there a tagline being appended to my emails that says "and yes, I
> speak for everyone and everything in all cases, no matter what?"
> Is there some reason why people think I'm speaking for anyone other than
> myself?
> Does my email address says "seth vidal fedora board member - all my
> pronouncements are equivalent to edicts from the FPL"?
> No, it doesn't.
> the only person I represent is me.

An issue with any 'elected' or appointed member  is that most people
do not see their views as just representing themselves. They see it as
representing the entities that elected or appointed them to that
position.  I think the current explanation is that it comes with the
brain trying to deal with large segments of data by depersonifying the
representative (you are supposed to represent my views to the board,
and when you do not you must be acting under the sway of some other
force). It seems deeply wired in the brain with the usual partisan
switches and such that make for people to work in clans/tribes/etc
versus just killing and eating each other like we really would like to

I think because of this, it is always better for an elected or
appointed person to label when they are speaking as a representative
or as their own personal selves. The statement helps to clarify the
mental image that one makes when reading. Is the writer talking about
their own opinion (somewhat threatening to the inner Oook inside us
all) or are they representing a vast horde of invading Cannibalistic
tofu eaters bent on devouring the reader (Oook get ready to fight or

Stephen J Smoogen. -- CSIRT/Linux System Administrator
How far that little candle throws his beams! So shines a good deed
in a naughty world. = Shakespeare. "The Merchant of Venice"

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