What makes a spin a Spin?

Josh Boyer jwboyer at gmail.com
Wed Feb 27 01:51:23 UTC 2008

On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 16:16:35 -0500 (EST)
Max Spevack <mspevack at redhat.com> wrote:

> On Tue, 26 Feb 2008, Jesse Keating wrote:
> > Sortof.  It seems that Max wants to empower folks in areas to create 
> > and share things called Fedora without going through releng / QA 
> > because releng / QA resources are finite.  I tend to want this too, 
> > but in a way that the product is labeled as contrib and not official 
> > Fedora.
> Sortof right back at you.
> What I want is:
> (1) A clear set of guidelines for what it takes for something to be an 
> official spin.  For example, KDE is an official spin.  Games is an 
> official spin, right?  So is Electronics Lab.  Is XFCE an official spin?

Um...  didn't I ask for that with the very first email in this thread?
I'm pretty sure I did, because that's the whole reason I started it in
the first place.

> If I am a person who has created a spin, and I want it to become 
> "official", I want to know what steps are necessary to take.
> I also want to be able to see the .ks files for all the official spins, 
> because that will help me to create my own spin in a way that is likely 
> to have a higher initial quality than if I just go off on my own, 
> because I'm working from a known-good starting point.

Jeremy has a fairly good suggestion for this.

> (2) A place for people to share the spins that are not "blessed" like 
> those in group (1).  Perhaps this is just the CustomSpins page on the 
> Fedora wiki, which can have pointers off to .ks files and hosted spins 
> elsewhere.

This seems reasonable.

> (3) A description of how spins in group (1) should be named, and how 
> spins in group (2) should be named.

Named as in how?  Do you have an example?

> My feeling is that we have talked around a lot of these issues many 
> times, but never actually codified the decisions in a single place, and 
> figured out who is responsible for keeping that document updated, or 
> modifying it when necessary.

I think it's partly because no decisions have been made.  It's quite
hard for either group (rel-eng and the Board) to figure out how to
decide on certain things when they keep passing the buck to each other.

So here is something I want the _Board_ to decided.  Do they want to
codify what falls into the official spins category and tell rel-eng, or
do they want to leave it up to rel-eng to suggest which spins should be
official?  IMHO, the Board should have final say in either case but the
initial recommendation should come from rel-eng.


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