Fedora 11 schedule proposal

Thorsten Leemhuis fedora at leemhuis.info
Wed Nov 12 19:21:16 UTC 2008

/me wanted to reply to the proposal right after it had been posted, but 
didn't get around to it

On 12.11.2008 19:46, Jeremy Katz wrote:
> On Tue, 2008-11-11 at 19:30 -0500, Brian Pepple wrote:
>> On Tue, 2008-11-11 at 16:11 -0800, Jesse Keating wrote:
>> <snip>
>>> I'd like to see some conversation on this (or none if you all agree with
>>> me) and a conclusion met within the next 2 weeks, that is at or before
>>> the release of Fedora 10.

Just to make it obvious: I really dislike the idea, so it gets a strong 
"-1" from me.

>> Looks pretty reasonable to me.  My big concern is if we slip for F11
>> (which given our past track record is fairly likely) we'll be reducing
>> the F12 development cycle even more.
> This reasoning is exactly why we decided a few years ago that the dates
> (May Day/Halloween) were to be the target dates always.

It is (and iirc was) just one of the reasons (albeit likely the most 
important ones).

>  If a release
> slips, we realign the next one to what it should been targeted with.
> Yes, it means a shortened window in this case for F11, but the
> predictability it adds is significant and if F11 slips, the impact to
> F12 is lessened.  
> Otherwise, we're really saying that the release date of release n+1 is
> release n's date + six months (which is what we used to do).  And the
> problem with that is that any slips over time meaning that we end up
> running into major holidays for a release date and have to have a
> long/short cycle to reset things.

Which made a lot of people unhappy often -- for example at the time when 
we skipped a gnome-release. A lot of people back then complained that 
Ubuntu took all the glory for (Gnome) Features that had been developed 
mostly by RH engineers, but first shipped in a Ubuntu release.


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