"What is the Fedora Project?"

[Seth Vidal]

On Thu, 15 Oct 2009, Bill Nottingham wrote:

> Jesse Keating (jkeating at redhat.com) said:
>>> I'd agree here. I think I'm like many people here - I don't necessarily
>>> have the ability to make good design, but I can recognize bad ones. A
>>> non-trivial amount of software (that we ship, even!) falls into the bad
>>> category, and it's because there wasn't much thought given to the design
>>> when it was created (whether it's user interface, admin interface, or
>>> even API design.)
>>
>> Doesn't this kind of thing only work where we're the upstream, or we
>> have direct heavy influence on the upstream?  How useful is pointing out
>> terrible UI on software where we're just the packager, and upstream
>> doesn't agree with us?  We're no longer a community of producers, a
>> large part of our contributors are just consuming upstream and putting
>> it in Fedora.
>
> We make the decisions about what the defaults are, and what software is
> or isn't included in in a particular spin, or promoted in the docs, etc.
> It's not much of a carrot, but it can be used tha tway.

and, in the case of the g-p-m example Mo offered, our default is the 
problem?



-sv