"What is the Fedora Project?"

Nigel Jones dev at nigelj.com
Thu Oct 22 02:03:48 UTC 2009

On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 11:58 AM, Jesse Keating <jkeating at redhat.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 2009-10-21 at 20:35 -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote:
>> > >I've heard a bit of preliminary rumbling about DSCM-like Rawhides -- a
>> > >way for developers to have trees that move at their pace, and are
>> > >possibly quite broken from time to time in ways that differ from each
>> > >other.  If we were able to develop such a scenario, why not also
>> > >provide the flipside of this idea -- make the One True Rawhide the
>> > >place where we take in changes that don't break the world, while
>> > >they're cobbled on in the other trees?  Whether this is an extension
>> > >of the "KoPeR" idea or something entirely difficult, it merits serious
>> > >consideration.
>> >
>> > I very much like the aspect of the more stable rawhide here.
>> Jesse Keating brought up some concerns about integration, but aren't
>> those concerns something that people would be interested in solving?
>> (I'm assuming those people are the wide variety of engineers working
>> in the Fedora community who are smarter than I.)
> So my plans are really funny.  I plan to make rawhide more unstable more
> of the time, and I plan to make "rawhide" more stable more of the time.
> Crazy eh?  How can I do this?  By splitting "rawhide" in two.
> Rawhide as we know it, /pub/fedora/linux/releases/development/ will
> remain "rawhide".  We may even change the path to say rawhide, just to
> catch things up and well I like keeping mirrors on their toes.  Rawhide
> will be a repository of developmental and experimental packages.  Things
> being worked on for the future.  It will /not/ be an installable tree,
> rather it will just be a repository of packages, to be added on to an
> already stable "base", eg you'd install F12, and enable rawhide to test
> rawhide.  This will significantly lower the complaints that "rawhide
> isn't installable".
So basically you are suggenting that rawhide = experimental, and that
we ad a testing repo which is pre-release.  This is great, but it's
what people have been asking for ages, so lets get it implemented!

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