"What is the Fedora Project?"

[Seth Vidal]

On Wed, 21 Oct 2009, Paul W. Frields wrote:

> On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 01:46:56PM -0400, Máirín Duffy wrote:
>> On 10/15/2009 12:18 PM, Seth Vidal wrote:
>>> And I think the point that Mike and I have been making on this list is
>>> that given the claimed goals of fedora we shouldn't expect people who
>>> are not religious about free software and heavily involved to get
>>> ANYTHING out of fedora.
>>
>> Sure, and I think you guys have done a good job advocating for that.
>>
>> What I'm telling you here, though, is that I *am* the target user
>> you're advocating for (freetard/zealot, techie, contributor), and at
>> times I'm at my wit's end trying to use !rawhide Fedora.
>>
>>> In short we have a choice:
>>> 1. change the goals of fedora
>>>
>>> OR
>>>
>>> 2. tell people we are intending for a small segment of the over
>>> population and those folks who are not in that segment and/or are not
>>> interested in becoming a member of that segment are NOT in the righr place.
>>
>> I'm trying to point out if our goal was to only reach for
>> software-freedom-religious folks who are heavily involved in it, we
>> could still do a much better job for *them.*
>
> A point that occurred to me that didn't make it into the conversation:
> If anyone needs a user case less specific than Mairin, imagine a
> Fedora Ambassador for instance.  Surely we don't want to say to an
> Ambassador, "Please contribute by promoting Fedora, but we'd rather
> you adjust to our way of thinking rather than us accommodating you"?
>

Why not? If you change to whatever the latest group of users wants then 
you're not leading, you're following.

-sv