"What is the Fedora Project?"

[Stephen John Smoogen]

On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 3:04 PM, Seth Vidal <skvidal at fedoraproject.org> wrote:
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> On Wed, 21 Oct 2009, Paul W. Frields wrote:
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>> On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 01:46:56PM -0400, Máirín Duffy wrote:
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>>> On 10/15/2009 12:18 PM, Seth Vidal wrote:
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>>>> And I think the point that Mike and I have been making on this list is
>>>> that given the claimed goals of fedora we shouldn't expect people who
>>>> are not religious about free software and heavily involved to get
>>>> ANYTHING out of fedora.
>>>
>>> Sure, and I think you guys have done a good job advocating for that.
>>>
>>> What I'm telling you here, though, is that I *am* the target user
>>> you're advocating for (freetard/zealot, techie, contributor), and at
>>> times I'm at my wit's end trying to use !rawhide Fedora.
>>>
>>>> In short we have a choice:
>>>> 1. change the goals of fedora
>>>>
>>>> OR
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>>>> 2. tell people we are intending for a small segment of the over
>>>> population and those folks who are not in that segment and/or are not
>>>> interested in becoming a member of that segment are NOT in the righr
>>>> place.
>>>
>>> I'm trying to point out if our goal was to only reach for
>>> software-freedom-religious folks who are heavily involved in it, we
>>> could still do a much better job for *them.*
>>
>> A point that occurred to me that didn't make it into the conversation:
>> If anyone needs a user case less specific than Mairin, imagine a
>> Fedora Ambassador for instance.  Surely we don't want to say to an
>> Ambassador, "Please contribute by promoting Fedora, but we'd rather
>> you adjust to our way of thinking rather than us accommodating you"?
>>
>
> Why not? If you change to whatever the latest group of users wants then
> you're not leading, you're following.

And vice versa.. if you don't listen and adapt you end up behind what
people would ever want to use. Its a conversation not a dictation
which I think we have forgotten in our current society.



-- 
Stephen J Smoogen.

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