Trademark license agreement status

Scott Glaser sonar_guy at
Tue Sep 8 23:44:06 UTC 2009

On Wed, 2 Sep 2009 09:32:30 -0500
"Paul W. Frields" <stickster at> wrote:

> In response to the insightful comments we've received over the past
> few months, and some great input gathered here in the last few weeks,
> the trademark license agreement has been updated.  The current text
> continues to be available on the wiki:
> I'm interested to hear how the changes made to address our most recent
> conversations translate to people's satisfaction with the current
> licensing terms.  We can continue this discussion transparently here
> on the list, where all community members can benefit.  However, anyone
> with a special situation is always welcome to email me to discuss it,
> and I look forward to hearing from you in either venue.
> As I hope everyone has seen, our legal counsel is excited at the
> opportunity to do what I get to do every day.  In this case, that's
> working with the community, to create a trademark licensing process
> that mutually respects all the participants and effectively protects
> and promotes the Fedora brand.  Once everyone's generally satisfied
> with terms, I look forward to working with each of you to establish a
> license that helps you continue doing a great job of promoting Fedora
> to the wider community.


I see four issues with the document in its current state:

1. There is no verbage defining what is cause for "termination or
expiration of the License". 

It would be good if examples were included in the document explaining
what is cause for termination or expiration of the license.

2. Why is there no verbiage in the TLA that the the registrant of
the domain name would be reimbursed for their remaining expenses
(domain registration/transfer fees) if the domain is registered for X
amount of time and that time exceeds the life of the license?

I think this would foster a better relationship with the community by
doing so, as the expenses would be trivial to the Licensor should a
domain need to be turned over.

3. What is done if the trademark is sold or the licensor goes out of

Big question here, but it should be addressed in the agreement.

4. What is content control? Also what would be defined as objectionable
by Licensor?

This is very important to all Fedora Community members that publish
Community based sites.


Scott Glaser

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