From marc at mwiriadi.id.au Fri Dec 1 03:14:18 2006 From: marc at mwiriadi.id.au (Marc Wiriadisastra) Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2006 11:14:18 +0800 Subject: [Ambassadors] Name for future Fedora distribition? References: <1164872241.456e8a31123fd@ssl.mecca.ca> <1164891913.5387.0.camel@fluffy.mrtomlinux> <1164892211.3443.4.camel@Amilo-GK.homenet.local> <1164892568.5387.2.camel@fluffy.mrtomlinux> <20061130134738.GA17219@gja.in> <456F0A32.60000@fedoraproject.org><456F36A6.3020104@glezos.com> <456F6AD0.2010205@gnsa.us> Message-ID: <00fc01c714f6$cabc8010$0201a8c0@strikeforce> Fedora United - the merger of Extras and Core ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Nalley" To: ; ; Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 7:35 AM Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] Name for future Fedora distribition? > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Dimitris Glezos wrote: > > Well, merging Core and Extras doesn't necessarily mean we should > change the name >> of our distribution. I suggest for us to consider the cost in changing >> the name. >> >> The name "Fedora Core" has established a reputation as "The distribution >> the >> Fedora Project produces". If we completely discontinue the "Core" product >> as >> such, then there is no conflict in keeping that name for our >> distribution. It >> will simply have a new meaning. Besides, that's what the conscious is: we >> are >> opening up Core; we are not substituting it with something new. We are >> just >> changing the build processes and mechanisms. > > I think Dimitris is absolutely correct. There is a high cost with > 'rebranding'. Sometimes rebranding is necessary, but I am not convinced > that our 'internal process' change (admittedly visible to anyone) is > cause enough to justify rebranding or the immense effort people would > have to go through to communicate that to the end user nothing has > changed, it's merely a process change. > > Since Gregdek has said that it can't be only 'Fedora' or 'Fedora Linux' > and has also stated that '"The Fedora Project" is the umbrella for > everything that Fedora does.' I think Fedora Core is a very apt (thought > I suppose I should say yummy instead) name, as producing a > distribution/collection of packages is the CORE or central focus of 'The > Fedora Project' . > > > David Nalley > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iD8DBQFFb2rQkZOYj+cNI1cRAos6AJ9hcP2gO+sWMF6RYCAW/8fgr7+engCggqbQ > 67BG7dS5c5/PPExtqqe+Zi0= > =VFuf > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > From david at gnsa.us Fri Dec 1 00:27:41 2006 From: david at gnsa.us (David Nalley) Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 19:27:41 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Name for future Fedora distribition? In-Reply-To: <00fc01c714f6$cabc8010$0201a8c0@strikeforce> References: <1164872241.456e8a31123fd@ssl.mecca.ca> <1164891913.5387.0.camel@fluffy.mrtomlinux> <1164892211.3443.4.camel@Amilo-GK.homenet.local> <1164892568.5387.2.camel@fluffy.mrtomlinux> <20061130134738.GA17219@gja.in> <456F0A32.60000@fedoraproject.org><456F36A6.3020104@glezos.com> <456F6AD0.2010205@gnsa.us> <00fc01c714f6$cabc8010$0201a8c0@strikeforce> Message-ID: <456F76FD.4080503@gnsa.us> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 That might cause some confusion with United Linux http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Linux Marc Wiriadisastra wrote: > Fedora United - the merger of Extras and Core -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFb3b9kZOYj+cNI1cRAoXGAJ4qAjXFoxKXx5bZQBUPX2UIWXkIiwCcDJZi f8yae0V1vg4zwYRnkhFdMl4= =gZQy -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From anandcomputerphreak at gmail.com Fri Dec 1 03:24:22 2006 From: anandcomputerphreak at gmail.com (Anand Capur) Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 22:24:22 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Name for future Fedora distribition? In-Reply-To: <456F76FD.4080503@gnsa.us> References: <1164872241.456e8a31123fd@ssl.mecca.ca> <1164891913.5387.0.camel@fluffy.mrtomlinux> <1164892211.3443.4.camel@Amilo-GK.homenet.local> <1164892568.5387.2.camel@fluffy.mrtomlinux> <20061130134738.GA17219@gja.in> <456F0A32.60000@fedoraproject.org> <456F36A6.3020104@glezos.com> <456F6AD0.2010205@gnsa.us> <00fc01c714f6$cabc8010$0201a8c0@strikeforce> <456F76FD.4080503@gnsa.us> Message-ID: United Linux has been shut-down though. On 11/30/06, David Nalley wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > That might cause some confusion with United Linux > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Linux > > > > Marc Wiriadisastra wrote: > > Fedora United - the merger of Extras and Core > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iD8DBQFFb3b9kZOYj+cNI1cRAoXGAJ4qAjXFoxKXx5bZQBUPX2UIWXkIiwCcDJZi > f8yae0V1vg4zwYRnkhFdMl4= > =gZQy > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- Anand Capur Arcnetworks - President/CEO/CTO/CSO ArcBB - Project Manager, Lead Coder www.arcnetworks.biz www.arcbb.info -------------------- I'm an Ambassador for the Fedora Project! Fedora Core 6. The New Generation In Linux! Get it now @ http://fedoraproject.org/ -------------------- Firefox - Safer, Faster, Better http://www.spreadfirefox.com/?q=affiliates&id=39064&t=1 -------------------- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From david at gnsa.us Fri Dec 1 03:33:21 2006 From: david at gnsa.us (David Nalley) Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 22:33:21 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Name for future Fedora distribition? In-Reply-To: References: <1164872241.456e8a31123fd@ssl.mecca.ca> <1164891913.5387.0.camel@fluffy.mrtomlinux> <1164892211.3443.4.camel@Amilo-GK.homenet.local> <1164892568.5387.2.camel@fluffy.mrtomlinux> <20061130134738.GA17219@gja.in> <456F0A32.60000@fedoraproject.org> <456F36A6.3020104@glezos.com> <456F6AD0.2010205@gnsa.us> <00fc01c714f6$cabc8010$0201a8c0@strikeforce> <456F76FD.4080503@gnsa.us> Message-ID: <456FA281.7080502@gnsa.us> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Anand Capur wrote: > United Linux has been shut-down though. > Yes, but you can't forget name recognition. Imagine a newbies dismay to google about this united linux thing that just came out, only to see notices that the project came to a halt in 2004. I think that we would experience brand dissolution by using another distributions name in our new name, just as we would with 'Fedora SuSE', although to a lesser degree because United Linux is no longer active. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFb6KAkZOYj+cNI1cRAtr8AJ9+BpJUeQEBavmz6fOFFo0ya532yACeO6ri 43+mwJeamPGESYdUIeKpNdM= =Xx2U -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From hanafiah at fedoraproject.org Fri Dec 1 07:54:28 2006 From: hanafiah at fedoraproject.org (Mohd Hanafiah Muhamad) Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2006 15:54:28 +0800 Subject: [Ambassadors] Name for future Fedora distribition? In-Reply-To: <00fc01c714f6$cabc8010$0201a8c0@strikeforce> References: <1164872241.456e8a31123fd@ssl.mecca.ca> <1164891913.5387.0.camel@fluffy.mrtomlinux> <1164892211.3443.4.camel@Amilo-GK.homenet.local> <1164892568.5387.2.camel@fluffy.mrtomlinux> <20061130134738.GA17219@gja.in> <456F0A32.60000@fedoraproject.org> <456F36A6.3020104@glezos.com> <456F6AD0.2010205@gnsa.us> <00fc01c714f6$cabc8010$0201a8c0@strikeforce> Message-ID: <5028e1a00611302354y3559ad40gad4bdcc0c70169cc@mail.gmail.com> Hi All; I would like to suggest 1) Fedora Tycoon - Info http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tycoon 2) Fedora Rafflesia - Info http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rafflesia 3) Fedora Keris - Info http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keris. 4) Fedora Paracryptodira - Info http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turtle On 12/1/06, Marc Wiriadisastra wrote: > > Fedora United - the merger of Extras and Core > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David Nalley" > To: ; ; > > Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 7:35 AM > Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] Name for future Fedora distribition? > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > Dimitris Glezos wrote: > > > Well, merging Core and Extras doesn't necessarily mean we should > > change the name > >> of our distribution. I suggest for us to consider the cost in changing > >> the name. > >> > >> The name "Fedora Core" has established a reputation as "The > distribution > >> the > >> Fedora Project produces". If we completely discontinue the "Core" > product > >> as > >> such, then there is no conflict in keeping that name for our > >> distribution. It > >> will simply have a new meaning. Besides, that's what the conscious is: > we > >> are > >> opening up Core; we are not substituting it with something new. We are > >> just > >> changing the build processes and mechanisms. > > > > I think Dimitris is absolutely correct. There is a high cost with > > 'rebranding'. Sometimes rebranding is necessary, but I am not convinced > > that our 'internal process' change (admittedly visible to anyone) is > > cause enough to justify rebranding or the immense effort people would > > have to go through to communicate that to the end user nothing has > > changed, it's merely a process change. > > > > Since Gregdek has said that it can't be only 'Fedora' or 'Fedora Linux' > > and has also stated that '"The Fedora Project" is the umbrella for > > everything that Fedora does.' I think Fedora Core is a very apt (thought > > I suppose I should say yummy instead) name, as producing a > > distribution/collection of packages is the CORE or central focus of 'The > > Fedora Project' . > > > > > > David Nalley > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) > > Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > > > iD8DBQFFb2rQkZOYj+cNI1cRAos6AJ9hcP2gO+sWMF6RYCAW/8fgr7+engCggqbQ > > 67BG7dS5c5/PPExtqqe+Zi0= > > =VFuf > > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From thomas.canniot at laposte.net Fri Dec 1 08:29:13 2006 From: thomas.canniot at laposte.net (Thomas Canniot) Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2006 09:29:13 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Name for future Fedora distribition? In-Reply-To: <5028e1a00611302354y3559ad40gad4bdcc0c70169cc@mail.gmail.com> References: <1164872241.456e8a31123fd@ssl.mecca.ca> <1164891913.5387.0.camel@fluffy.mrtomlinux> <1164892211.3443.4.camel@Amilo-GK.homenet.local> <1164892568.5387.2.camel@fluffy.mrtomlinux> <20061130134738.GA17219@gja.in> <456F0A32.60000@fedoraproject.org> <456F36A6.3020104@glezos.com> <456F6AD0.2010205@gnsa.us> <00fc01c714f6$cabc8010$0201a8c0@strikeforce> <5028e1a00611302354y3559ad40gad4bdcc0c70169cc@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1164961753.3343.0.camel@fluffy.mrtomlinux> What about Fedora Universe ? It has already been suggested, hasn't it? Le vendredi 01 d?cembre 2006 ? 15:54 +0800, Mohd Hanafiah Muhamad a ?crit : > Hi All; > > I would like to suggest > > 1) Fedora Tycoon - Info http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tycoon > 2) Fedora Rafflesia - Info http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rafflesia > 3) Fedora Keris - Info http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keris. > 4) Fedora Paracryptodira - Info http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turtle > > > On 12/1/06, Marc Wiriadisastra wrote: > Fedora United - the merger of Extras and Core > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David Nalley" < david at gnsa.us> > To: ; >; > > Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 7:35 AM > Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] Name for future Fedora > distribition? > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > Dimitris Glezos wrote: > > > Well, merging Core and Extras doesn't necessarily mean we > should > > change the name > >> of our distribution. I suggest for us to consider the cost > in changing > >> the name. > >> > >> The name "Fedora Core" has established a reputation as "The > distribution > >> the > >> Fedora Project produces". If we completely discontinue the > "Core" product > >> as > >> such, then there is no conflict in keeping that name for > our > >> distribution. It > >> will simply have a new meaning. Besides, that's what the > conscious is: we > >> are > >> opening up Core; we are not substituting it with something > new. We are > >> just > >> changing the build processes and mechanisms. > > > > I think Dimitris is absolutely correct. There is a high cost > with > > 'rebranding'. Sometimes rebranding is necessary, but I am > not convinced > > that our 'internal process' change (admittedly visible to > anyone) is > > cause enough to justify rebranding or the immense effort > people would > > have to go through to communicate that to the end user > nothing has > > changed, it's merely a process change. > > > > Since Gregdek has said that it can't be only 'Fedora' or > 'Fedora Linux' > > and has also stated that '"The Fedora Project" is the > umbrella for > > everything that Fedora does.' I think Fedora Core is a very > apt (thought > > I suppose I should say yummy instead) name, as producing a > > distribution/collection of packages is the CORE or central > focus of 'The > > Fedora Project' . > > > > > > David Nalley > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) > > Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > > > iD8DBQFFb2rQkZOYj+cNI1cRAos6AJ9hcP2gO+sWMF6RYCAW/8fgr7 > +engCggqbQ > > 67BG7dS5c5/PPExtqqe+Zi0= > > =VFuf > > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list -- Thomas Canniot http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasCanniot From wy_2_k at yahoo.com Fri Dec 1 10:21:47 2006 From: wy_2_k at yahoo.com (Ama M) Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2006 02:21:47 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Ambassadors] Name for future Fedora distribition? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <317541.48042.qm@web60018.mail.yahoo.com> I agree with Charles just Fedora or Fedora Core is good enough I dont abvovate drastic change in the name. lets just leave it at Fedora Charles VINCHON wrote: 2006/11/30, Francesco Ugolini : > Fedora or, just, Fedora Core is good enough. > > Regards > > Francesco ugolini +1 -- Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list --------------------------------- Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jkeating at redhat.com Fri Dec 1 13:43:18 2006 From: jkeating at redhat.com (Jesse Keating) Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2006 08:43:18 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Name for future Fedora distribition? In-Reply-To: <1164961753.3343.0.camel@fluffy.mrtomlinux> References: <1164872241.456e8a31123fd@ssl.mecca.ca> <5028e1a00611302354y3559ad40gad4bdcc0c70169cc@mail.gmail.com> <1164961753.3343.0.camel@fluffy.mrtomlinux> Message-ID: <200612010843.18381.jkeating@redhat.com> On Friday 01 December 2006 03:29, Thomas Canniot wrote: > What about Fedora Universe ? It has already been suggested, hasn't it? Name collision with the Ubuntu Universe. -- Jesse Keating Release Engineer: Fedora -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From rwhetsel at ravensong.com Fri Dec 1 14:59:37 2006 From: rwhetsel at ravensong.com (Robert Whetsel) Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2006 09:59:37 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Name for future Fedora distribition? In-Reply-To: <317541.48042.qm@web60018.mail.yahoo.com> References: <317541.48042.qm@web60018.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1164985177.4070.4.camel@rs-business> +1! Why confuse the issue? The name of the object{fedora} it's self is a representation of the project. And giving it cool code names does not make it more than what it is. It confuses the newbies and does not lead to more adoption in a business environment. On Fri, 2006-12-01 at 02:21 -0800, Ama M wrote: > I agree with Charles > > just Fedora or Fedora Core is good enough > I dont abvovate drastic change in the name. > > lets just leave it at Fedora > > > Charles VINCHON wrote: > 2006/11/30, Francesco Ugolini : > > Fedora or, just, Fedora Core is good enough. > > > > Regards > > > > Francesco ugolini > > +1 > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list -- Cheers, Robert C. Whetsel 240-215-3944 www.ravensong.com RavenSong Open Technologies, Inc. Frederick Innovative Technology Center, Inc. (FITCI) 401 Rosemont Avenue Rosenstock Hall, 3rd Floor at Hood College Frederick, MD 21701 ********************************************************************************* This message, and any attachments to it, may contain information that is privileged, confidential, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are notified that any use, dissemination, distribution, copying, or communication of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete the message and any attachments. Thank you. ********************************************************************************* From lxmaier at gmail.com Fri Dec 1 15:22:42 2006 From: lxmaier at gmail.com (Alex Maier) Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2006 10:22:42 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Name for future Fedora distribition? In-Reply-To: <1164985177.4070.4.camel@rs-business> References: <317541.48042.qm@web60018.mail.yahoo.com> <1164985177.4070.4.camel@rs-business> Message-ID: <7f617d270612010722p55cbdc71v7697d792256d7703@mail.gmail.com> +1 But if there is any need to introduce an extra descriptor, why not make it descriptive -- pardon the wild idea -- and call it something like: Fedora Packages or Fedora Compendium or Fedora Everything However, the simpler the naming is, the less prone will the people out there be to misuse the individual sub-names. So far, the simple "Fedora Linux" makes most sense to me, since it can be extended by inserting the subset descriptor between the two names, like "Fedora Server Linux" etc. The fact that this set would contain everything and would not technically be an OS, doesn't conflict with the name "Linux" in my world, but it may be just me. a On 12/1/06, Robert Whetsel wrote: > +1! > > > Why confuse the issue? The name of the object{fedora} it's self is a > representation of the project. And giving it cool code names does not > make it more than what it is. It confuses the newbies and does not lead > to more adoption in a business environment. From kefah at freesoft.jo Fri Dec 1 15:13:47 2006 From: kefah at freesoft.jo (Kefah T. Issa) Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2006 17:13:47 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Name for future Fedora distribition? In-Reply-To: <1164985177.4070.4.camel@rs-business> References: <317541.48042.qm@web60018.mail.yahoo.com> <1164985177.4070.4.camel@rs-business> Message-ID: <200612011713.47085.kefah@freesoft.jo> "Fedora" and "Fedora Core" have made a great brand - IMHO. The name is musical and have all the characteristics of a good name. So, keeping things as they are seems like the best option. Regards to all, - Kefah. On Friday 01 December 2006 4:59 pm, Robert Whetsel wrote: > +1! > > > Why confuse the issue? The name of the object{fedora} it's self is a > representation of the project. And giving it cool code names does not > make it more than what it is. It confuses the newbies and does not lead > to more adoption in a business environment. > > On Fri, 2006-12-01 at 02:21 -0800, Ama M wrote: > > I agree with Charles > > > > just Fedora or Fedora Core is good enough > > I dont abvovate drastic change in the name. > > > > lets just leave it at Fedora > > > > > > Charles VINCHON wrote: > > > > 2006/11/30, Francesco Ugolini : > > > Fedora or, just, Fedora Core is good enough. > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Francesco ugolini > > > > +1 > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > > Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list From imtiaz.rahi at gmail.com Fri Dec 1 19:35:53 2006 From: imtiaz.rahi at gmail.com (Imtiaz Rahi) Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2006 01:35:53 +0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] Name for future Fedora distribition? In-Reply-To: <1164985177.4070.4.camel@rs-business> References: <317541.48042.qm@web60018.mail.yahoo.com> <1164985177.4070.4.camel@rs-business> Message-ID: Agree with Robert. ++1. "Fedora" itself represents better than any other names, even better than "Fedora linux". No need to insert any trailing linux part. with only "Fedora" people with be lot less confused. Simple things works better. Cheers, Imtiaz On 12/1/06, Robert Whetsel wrote: > > +1! > > > Why confuse the issue? The name of the object{fedora} it's self is a > representation of the project. And giving it cool code names does not > make it more than what it is. It confuses the newbies and does not lead > to more adoption in a business environment. > > > On Fri, 2006-12-01 at 02:21 -0800, Ama M wrote: > > I agree with Charles > > > > just Fedora or Fedora Core is good enough > > I dont abvovate drastic change in the name. > > > > lets just leave it at Fedora > > > > > > Charles VINCHON wrote: > > 2006/11/30, Francesco Ugolini : > > > Fedora or, just, Fedora Core is good enough. > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Francesco ugolini > > > > +1 > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > > Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- > Cheers, > > Robert C. Whetsel > 240-215-3944 > www.ravensong.com > > RavenSong Open Technologies, Inc. > Frederick Innovative Technology Center, Inc. (FITCI) > 401 Rosemont Avenue > Rosenstock Hall, 3rd Floor at Hood College > Frederick, MD 21701 > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From santosh at fedoraproject.org Sun Dec 3 01:36:43 2006 From: santosh at fedoraproject.org (Santosh Kumar) Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2006 07:06:43 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] FreeMedia India Distribution Backlash Message-ID: Hi fellow ambassadors, I have received a few emails from requesters from India claiming that though their FreeMedia Requests have been accepted, they haven't yet received the FreeMedia's yet. I've just heard from those whose requests have been accepted in October itself, let alone those who haven't yet been accepted in October. Why is this happening?? 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If anyone's request has been accepted but the media has not been send, contact the person listed against the request and ask them. Rahul From santosh at fedoraproject.org Sun Dec 3 01:47:12 2006 From: santosh at fedoraproject.org (Santosh Kumar) Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2006 07:17:12 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] FreeMedia India Distribution Backlash In-Reply-To: <45722AD9.4000509@fedoraproject.org> References: <45722AD9.4000509@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: Yes, i did check that & i wanted to know if the current system needs a change!! On 12/3/06, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > > Santosh Kumar wrote: > > Hi fellow ambassadors, > > I have received a few emails from requesters from India claiming that > > though their FreeMedia Requests have been accepted, they haven't yet > > received the FreeMedia's yet. I've just heard from those whose requests > > have been accepted in October itself, let alone those who haven't yet > > been accepted in October. Why is this happening?? Do we need a better > > and efficient distribution system? > > Every request is tracked in > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution/FreeMedia/India. If anyone's > request has been accepted but the media has not been send, contact the > person listed against the request and ask them. > > Rahul > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- C.Santosh Kumar -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From santosh at fedoraproject.org Sun Dec 3 02:25:27 2006 From: santosh at fedoraproject.org (Santosh Kumar) Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2006 07:55:27 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] FreeMedia India Distribution Backlash In-Reply-To: <45722D67.4070804@fedoraproject.org> References: <45722AD9.4000509@fedoraproject.org> <45722D67.4070804@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: On 12/3/06, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > > Santosh Kumar wrote: > > Yes, i did check that & i wanted to know if the current system needs a > > change!! > > > > What kind of change do you suggest? Lets not rehash the discussion we > had a couple of months back. I now wanna suggest an efficient tracking system where in the ambassadors say when they shipped? -- Santosh -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Sun Dec 3 02:28:05 2006 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2006 07:58:05 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] FreeMedia India Distribution Backlash In-Reply-To: References: <45722AD9.4000509@fedoraproject.org> <45722D67.4070804@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <45723635.3060106@fedoraproject.org> Santosh Kumar wrote: > On 12/3/06, *Rahul Sundaram* > wrote: > > Santosh Kumar wrote: > > Yes, i did check that & i wanted to know if the current system > needs a > > change!! > > > > What kind of change do you suggest? Lets not rehash the discussion we > had a couple of months back. > > > I now wanna suggest an efficient tracking system where in the > ambassadors say when they shipped? Sorry. You are not clear. Currently everybody participating in the Free media program (they dont have to ambassadors) has to explicitly acknowledge every request they agree to via the fedora-freemedia list. You want the person to specify a date and time whey they do the actual shipment or are you suggesting we use a ticketing system or something else? Rahul From santosh at fedoraproject.org Sun Dec 3 02:27:24 2006 From: santosh at fedoraproject.org (Santosh Kumar) Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2006 07:57:24 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] FreeMedia India Distribution Backlash In-Reply-To: References: <45722AD9.4000509@fedoraproject.org> <45722D67.4070804@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: On 12/3/06, Santosh Kumar wrote: > > On 12/3/06, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > > > > Santosh Kumar wrote: > > > Yes, i did check that & i wanted to know if the current system needs a > > > change!! > > > > > > > What kind of change do you suggest? Lets not rehash the discussion we > > had a couple of months back. > > I now wanna suggest an efficient tracking system where in the ambassadors say when they shipped!! -- Santosh -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From santosh at fedoraproject.org Sun Dec 3 02:34:47 2006 From: santosh at fedoraproject.org (Santosh Kumar) Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2006 08:04:47 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] FreeMedia India Distribution Backlash In-Reply-To: <45723635.3060106@fedoraproject.org> References: <45722AD9.4000509@fedoraproject.org> <45722D67.4070804@fedoraproject.org> <45723635.3060106@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: On 12/3/06, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > > Santosh Kumar wrote: > > On 12/3/06, *Rahul Sundaram* > > wrote: > > > > Santosh Kumar wrote: > > > Yes, i did check that & i wanted to know if the current system > > needs a > > > change!! > > > > > > > What kind of change do you suggest? Lets not rehash the discussion > we > > had a couple of months back. > > > > > > I now wanna suggest an efficient tracking system where in the > > ambassadors say when they shipped? > > Sorry. You are not clear. Currently everybody participating in the Free > media program (they dont have to ambassadors) has to explicitly > acknowledge every request they agree to via the fedora-freemedia list. > You want the person to specify a date and time whey they do the actual > shipment or are you suggesting we use a ticketing system or something > else? Sorry for not being clear. I would like to have a Shipment Tracking system where the ambassadors would have to mention the date of actual shipment. First of all, the current method of just a acknowledgement mail gives us no actual detail if the Request was really shipped on time or not! -- Santosh -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tchung at fedoraproject.org Sun Dec 3 06:01:29 2006 From: tchung at fedoraproject.org (Thomas Chung) Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2006 22:01:29 -0800 Subject: [Ambassadors] FreeMedia India Distribution Backlash In-Reply-To: References: <45722AD9.4000509@fedoraproject.org> <45722D67.4070804@fedoraproject.org> <45723635.3060106@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <369bce3b0612022201i2c266ee5qae010e4adc46d68b@mail.gmail.com> On 12/2/06, Santosh Kumar wrote: > Sorry for not being clear. I would like to have a Shipment Tracking system > where the ambassadors would have to mention the date of actual shipment. > First of all, the current method of just a acknowledgement mail gives us no > actual detail if the Request was really shipped on time or not! > -- > Santosh Please note this is a volunteer program not run by a commercial business vendor. Therefore, we have no resources to set up another Tracking System similar to Ubuntu people does. We're doing our best to fulfill Free Media Requests as much as we can and as fast as we can. I understand Fedora Free Media Program India is running short on hands due to overwhelming requests from India. I would like to take this opportunity to join and participate in this program more *actively* We have more than enough 25 Fedora Ambassadors in India[1] yet only handful of Ambassadors are accepting requests in India[2]. I even offered a Fedora T-Shirt to whom will accept at least 5 requests from the queue. Please ask yourself when was the last time you actually give something back to the community? [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/CategoryAmbassadorsIndia [2] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution/FreeMedia/India -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung From thomas.canniot at laposte.net Sun Dec 3 09:31:03 2006 From: thomas.canniot at laposte.net (Thomas Canniot) Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2006 10:31:03 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] [Fedora-fr-list] REMINDER French Meeting today 1930 Message-ID: <1165138263.3305.0.camel@fluffy.mrtomlinux> This mail is a reminder for today?s meeting for French ambassadors and interested people. 2006-12-03 / 19:30 UTC IRC: freenode #fedora-mktg-fr Ce mail est un rappel pour la r?union des ambassadeurs francophones, qui aura lieu ce dimanche (03 dec.) ? 20h30 heure de Paris sur IRC (freenode) #fedora-mktg-fr . From thomas.canniot at laposte.net Sun Dec 3 10:02:48 2006 From: thomas.canniot at laposte.net (Thomas Canniot) Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2006 11:02:48 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Name for future Fedora distribition? In-Reply-To: <200612010843.18381.jkeating@redhat.com> References: <1164872241.456e8a31123fd@ssl.mecca.ca> <5028e1a00611302354y3559ad40gad4bdcc0c70169cc@mail.gmail.com> <1164961753.3343.0.camel@fluffy.mrtomlinux> <200612010843.18381.jkeating@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1165140168.3305.8.camel@fluffy.mrtomlinux> Le vendredi 01 d?cembre 2006 ? 08:43 -0500, Jesse Keating a ?crit : > On Friday 01 December 2006 03:29, Thomas Canniot wrote: > > What about Fedora Universe ? It has already been suggested, hasn't it? > > Name collision with the Ubuntu Universe. > What kind of idea had they to use it ? -- Thomas Canniot http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasCanniot From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Sun Dec 3 11:48:37 2006 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2006 17:18:37 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Name for future Fedora distribition? In-Reply-To: <1165140168.3305.8.camel@fluffy.mrtomlinux> References: <1164872241.456e8a31123fd@ssl.mecca.ca> <5028e1a00611302354y3559ad40gad4bdcc0c70169cc@mail.gmail.com> <1164961753.3343.0.camel@fluffy.mrtomlinux> <200612010843.18381.jkeating@redhat.com> <1165140168.3305.8.camel@fluffy.mrtomlinux> Message-ID: <4572B995.7030003@fedoraproject.org> Thomas Canniot wrote: > Le vendredi 01 d?cembre 2006 ? 08:43 -0500, Jesse Keating a ?crit : >> On Friday 01 December 2006 03:29, Thomas Canniot wrote: >>> What about Fedora Universe ? It has already been suggested, hasn't it? >> Name collision with the Ubuntu Universe. >> > > What kind of idea had they to use it ? For open source software includes in Ubuntu that canonical doesnt support and which is disabled by default. Canonical supported set is called main. It is very roughly equivalent to Fedora Extras. Rahul From siddharth at techbugs.org Sun Dec 3 13:00:43 2006 From: siddharth at techbugs.org (Siddharth Upmanyu) Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2006 18:30:43 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] FreeMedia India Distribution Backlash In-Reply-To: <369bce3b0612022201i2c266ee5qae010e4adc46d68b@mail.gmail.com> References: <45722AD9.4000509@fedoraproject.org> <45722D67.4070804@fedoraproject.org> <45723635.3060106@fedoraproject.org> <369bce3b0612022201i2c266ee5qae010e4adc46d68b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I would Like to add a few things to the discussion... 1.some kind "Shipment Tracking system" would not make any point. the FreeMedia program is volunteerly supported anyone who is accepting the requests is welcome but not a rigid expectation.. 2.the shipping of Media depends on amount of resources put in by the contributing people and the planned efforts might differ to what is actually applied... in the october list a few requests were left unfulfilled and the notice of the same was put on the tracking page... to stop these things happening in future a different approach can be taken up like accepting a request just before shipping which will automatically imply a shipped media... but there still be problems with this as this will not be convenient to the people requesting the media as the approval will be random in time... another will be to do the manual tracking on the Wiki itself but that too will have its own problems. The main problem is still the large number of requests and less resources available which has to be sorted out first. I would suggest a pre meeting... in the beginning of every month before we start accepting the requests through the Request Page, a communication should take place between the connected people about the total expected capacity and contribution of individuals... Regards Siddharth -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From thomas.canniot at laposte.net Sun Dec 3 13:51:22 2006 From: thomas.canniot at laposte.net (Thomas Canniot) Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2006 14:51:22 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Name for future Fedora distribition? In-Reply-To: <4572B995.7030003@fedoraproject.org> References: <1164872241.456e8a31123fd@ssl.mecca.ca> <5028e1a00611302354y3559ad40gad4bdcc0c70169cc@mail.gmail.com> <1164961753.3343.0.camel@fluffy.mrtomlinux> <200612010843.18381.jkeating@redhat.com> <1165140168.3305.8.camel@fluffy.mrtomlinux> <4572B995.7030003@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <1165153882.5209.3.camel@fluffy.mrtomlinux> Le dimanche 03 d?cembre 2006 ? 17:18 +0530, Rahul Sundaram a ?crit : > Thomas Canniot wrote: > > Le vendredi 01 d?cembre 2006 ? 08:43 -0500, Jesse Keating a ?crit : > >> On Friday 01 December 2006 03:29, Thomas Canniot wrote: > >>> What about Fedora Universe ? It has already been suggested, hasn't it? > >> Name collision with the Ubuntu Universe. > >> > > > > What kind of idea had they to use it ? > > For open source software includes in Ubuntu that canonical doesnt > support and which is disabled by default. Canonical supported set is > called main. It is very roughly equivalent to Fedora Extras. > And about Fedora Linux, don't you think the FSF will come and say that we have to say GNU/Linux ? -- Thomas Canniot http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasCanniot From santosh at fedoraproject.org Sun Dec 3 14:15:03 2006 From: santosh at fedoraproject.org (Santosh Kumar) Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2006 19:45:03 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] FreeMedia India Distribution Backlash In-Reply-To: References: <45722AD9.4000509@fedoraproject.org> <45722D67.4070804@fedoraproject.org> <45723635.3060106@fedoraproject.org> <369bce3b0612022201i2c266ee5qae010e4adc46d68b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 12/3/06, Siddharth Upmanyu wrote: > > > I would Like to add a few things to the discussion... > > 1.some kind "Shipment Tracking system" would not make any point. the > FreeMedia program is volunteerly supported anyone who is accepting the > requests is welcome but not a rigid expectation.. When you do voluntarily accept a Request, why don't we fill up a simple shipment tracking system?. Once the request is accepted which is done voluntarily, it becomes the responsibility of him to make sure that he ships the DVD which he's accepted, on time else please do not accept. There should be no problems in this as such, am ready to allocate some server space and bandwidth (up to 5GB) for this. 2.the shipping of Media depends on amount of resources put in by the > contributing people and the planned efforts might differ to what is actually > applied...in the october list a few requests were left unfulfilled and the > notice of the same was put on the tracking page... to stop these things > happening in future a different approach can be taken up like accepting a > request just before shipping which will automatically imply a shipped > media... This is what initiated me to ask for a tracking system. but there still be problems with this as this will not be convenient to the > people requesting the media as the approval will be random in time... > another will be to do the manual tracking on the Wiki itself but that too > will have its own problems. > The main problem is still the large number of requests and less resources > available which has to be sorted out first. What we require here is a collaborated effort in ensuring proper reach of the DVDs. I kindly request the Silent Members of Team India to help us by shipping a few DVDs every month. I would suggest a pre meeting... in the beginning of every month before we > start accepting the requests through the Request Page, a communication > should take place between the connected people about the total expected > capacity and contribution of individuals... Yea, this is the need of the hour.... 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Once the request is accepted which is > done voluntarily, it becomes the responsibility of him to make sure that he > ships the DVD which he's accepted, on time else please do not accept. > There should be no problems in this as such, am ready to allocate some > server space and bandwidth (up to 5GB) for this. > "Shipment Tracking system" is still not a solution because voluntarily accepted request is not a "becomes the responsibility" in most rigid way... community programs cannot be used in a way that put restrictions and rigid guidelines to the people who contribute to it... Siddharth -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From imtiaz.rahi at gmail.com Sun Dec 3 14:58:24 2006 From: imtiaz.rahi at gmail.com (Imtiaz Rahi) Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2006 20:58:24 +0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] FreeMedia India Distribution Backlash In-Reply-To: References: <45722D67.4070804@fedoraproject.org> <45723635.3060106@fedoraproject.org> <369bce3b0612022201i2c266ee5qae010e4adc46d68b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: One thing I would like to mention is that if someone accepts a request he should be obliged to fulfil it. Its a commitment. I requested FC DVD in november. But never received it. Later, I downloaded the DVD which took me more than 2 weeks as in Bangladesh we don't get that much speed. So, some sort of mechanism should be in place which ensures an accepted request has been met. Cheers, Imtiaz On 12/3/06, Siddharth Upmanyu wrote: > > > > On 12/3/06, Santosh Kumar wrote: > > > > > > I would Like to add a few things to the discussion... > > > > > > 1.some kind "Shipment Tracking system" would not make any point. the > > > FreeMedia program is volunteerly supported anyone who is accepting the > > > requests is welcome but not a rigid expectation.. > > > > > > When you do voluntarily accept a Request, why don't we fill up a > > simple shipment tracking system?. Once the request is accepted which is > > done voluntarily, it becomes the responsibility of him to make sure that he > > ships the DVD which he's accepted, on time else please do not accept. > > There should be no problems in this as such, am ready to allocate some > > server space and bandwidth (up to 5GB) for this. > > > > "Shipment Tracking system" is still not a solution because voluntarily > accepted request is not a "becomes the responsibility" in most rigid way... > > community programs cannot be used in a way that put restrictions and rigid > guidelines to the people who contribute to it... > > Siddharth > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karlie.robinson at fedoraproject.org Sun Dec 3 10:24:10 2006 From: karlie.robinson at fedoraproject.org (Karlie Robinson) Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2006 10:24:10 +0000 Subject: [Ambassadors] FreeMedia India Distribution Backlash In-Reply-To: References: <45722AD9.4000509@fedoraproject.org> <45722D67.4070804@fedoraproject.org> <45723635.3060106@fedoraproject.org> <369bce3b0612022201i2c266ee5qae010e4adc46d68b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4572A5CA.5030302@fedoraproject.org> Siddharth Upmanyu wrote: > "Shipment Tracking system" is still not a solution because voluntarily > accepted request is not a "becomes the responsibility" in most rigid way... > > community programs cannot be used in a way that put restrictions and > rigid guidelines to the people who contribute to it... > > Siddharth I've been reading along and there's a few things that are jumping out at me. One, I would think that if someone volunteers to send a disc they would do so. If they don't have the intention of following through, why accept the request in the first place? Second, from my own point of veiw, stuff happens. There have been times when I've accepted a huge block of addresses and it's taken me a few days to actually get them out . Keep in mind creating and shipping discs are what I do for a living. Third, there had been talk very early on with Sponsored media about creating a database driven system to eliminate some, if not all of the tedious manual entry that takes place... Mostly by Tchung on the main list. So far we seem to be doing ok with what's in place and there's really no need to 'fix' it until there's an actual problem with manual entry (Are you sick of manual entry yet, Thomas? if so, what can we do, add our own star when we accept the request?) And finally, with tracking... I send everything by Air Mail Letter post. I'm sure the others are sending their discs by standard service mail too. Other than my name being next to someone's name in the list, there's no tracking. I can look up what date the article was post marked only because I use an ePostage system to print out complete mailing lables. Otherwise, when it's gone, it's gone, there's nothing I can do about it. Obviously if someone takes the time to email me and ask if it's lost in the mail, held up in customs, swiped from a mail box etc I'll re-ship, but if not, what should we do. Even with install partys and other events, we can't personally deliver all of them. From rajeevrk at xlncenterprises.com Sun Dec 3 15:30:43 2006 From: rajeevrk at xlncenterprises.com (R. K. Rajeev) Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2006 21:00:43 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] FreeMedia India Distribution Backlash Message-ID: <4572EDA3.8030305@xlncenterprises.com> Dear Santosh / Thomas, I have just managed to get my messed up Sony DVD writer replaced, with a brand spanking new 18x samsung, and am finally in a position to start seriously burning dvd's. I was hesitant to join the freemedia program before as my dvd writer coastering 2 out of every 3 dvd's i used, but now that this is fixed, i'm good to go Full steam. However, I have not downloaded the FC6 DVD images(got the CD images instead, because of my *#$@!#% writer), and my bandwidth situation isn't good enough to allow me to do it in any short period of time. So, if anyone can *seed* me with one good copy of of FC6 i386 and FC6 x86_64 media, i should be able to start sending out copies. For people requesting media in Mumbai, India, i do travel pretty extensively in the city, and can drop off media at many convenient locations throughout the city. also, mailing the media across the country shouldn't be a problem from my end. As a goal for myself, in this respect, i can commit to filling at least 50-75 requests this month for dvd's( Either x86 or x86_64). Let's make December the month where we clear up all the backlogs. I've been a Silent Ambassador for quite some time now, and i'm sure that mailing 2-3 dvd's a day would be quite acceptable. Regards R. K. Rajeev From jkeating at redhat.com Sun Dec 3 16:25:45 2006 From: jkeating at redhat.com (Jesse Keating) Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2006 11:25:45 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Name for future Fedora distribition? In-Reply-To: <1165153882.5209.3.camel@fluffy.mrtomlinux> References: <1164872241.456e8a31123fd@ssl.mecca.ca> <4572B995.7030003@fedoraproject.org> <1165153882.5209.3.camel@fluffy.mrtomlinux> Message-ID: <200612031125.45466.jkeating@redhat.com> On Sunday 03 December 2006 08:51, Thomas Canniot wrote: > > For open source software includes in Ubuntu that canonical doesnt > > support and which is disabled by default. Canonical supported set is > > called main. It is very roughly equivalent to Fedora Extras. > > And about Fedora Linux, don't you think the FSF will come and say that > we have to say GNU/Linux ? "Linux" is a shared name we all have, thanks to the kernel. However, a package "Universe" is something "invented" by Canonical for the Ubuntu project. Copying their name for our pile of packages doesn't make sense. It confuses the marketspace a bit, and I think we'd rather not steal a Ubuntu name. -- Jesse Keating Release Engineer: Fedora -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Once the request is accepted which is > > done voluntarily, it becomes the responsibility of him to make sure that he > > ships the DVD which he's accepted, on time else please do not accept. > > There should be no problems in this as such, am ready to allocate some > > server space and bandwidth (up to 5GB) for this. > > > > "Shipment Tracking system" is still not a solution because voluntarily > accepted request is not a "becomes the responsibility" in most rigid way... > > community programs cannot be used in a way that put restrictions and rigid > guidelines to the people who contribute to it... As Imtiaz just pointed out, once a request is accepted it becomes a obligation and one has to ensure that it has been fulfilled before the next batch is accepted -- Santosh Kumar -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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If we try to re-define the name to mean what we want it to mean, then we'll be setting up exactly the wrong initial condition and creating unnecessary confusion for everyone. -jef"There is absolutely nothing worse than eating something an expecting it to taste one way when in fact it tastes completely different. I like limes and like pistachios, but if I eat something green expecting it to be lime, but its actually pistachio... yuk."spaleta From lxmaier at gmail.com Mon Dec 4 14:42:41 2006 From: lxmaier at gmail.com (Alex Maier) Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2006 09:42:41 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] FreeMedia India Distribution Backlash In-Reply-To: References: <45722D67.4070804@fedoraproject.org> <45723635.3060106@fedoraproject.org> <369bce3b0612022201i2c266ee5qae010e4adc46d68b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <7f617d270612040642w55f9f156w5443d54fb7d8099c@mail.gmail.com> On 12/3/06, Santosh Kumar wrote: > As Imtiaz just pointed out, once a request is accepted it becomes a > obligation and one has to ensure that it has been fulfilled before the next > batch is accepted -- I would like to join in with Thomas Chung to say -- if you don't like the way Free Media is currently fulfilled in India, what have *you* done to make it better? Accepting a few requests and shipping them out could prove much more effective than a new request tracker. Cheers, a From gdk at redhat.com Mon Dec 4 14:46:30 2006 From: gdk at redhat.com (Greg Dekoenigsberg) Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2006 09:46:30 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Ambassadors] FreeMedia India Distribution Backlash In-Reply-To: <7f617d270612040642w55f9f156w5443d54fb7d8099c@mail.gmail.com> References: <45722D67.4070804@fedoraproject.org> <45723635.3060106@fedoraproject.org> <369bce3b0612022201i2c266ee5qae010e4adc46d68b@mail.gmail.com> <7f617d270612040642w55f9f156w5443d54fb7d8099c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 4 Dec 2006, Alex Maier wrote: > On 12/3/06, Santosh Kumar wrote: >> As Imtiaz just pointed out, once a request is accepted it becomes a >> obligation and one has to ensure that it has been fulfilled before the next >> batch is accepted -- > > I would like to join in with Thomas Chung to say -- if you don't like > the way Free Media is currently fulfilled in India, what have *you* > done to make it better? > > Accepting a few requests and shipping them out could prove much more > effective than a new request tracker. Unless, of course, you'd like to write the new request tracker. I am in a general sort of agreement that a better tracking tool would be useful. But tools don't write themselves. :) --g ------------------------------------------------------------- Greg DeKoenigsberg || Fedora Project || fedoraproject.org Be an Ambassador || http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors ------------------------------------------------------------- From santosh at fedoraproject.org Mon Dec 4 17:12:09 2006 From: santosh at fedoraproject.org (Santosh Kumar) Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2006 22:42:09 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] FreeMedia India Distribution Backlash In-Reply-To: <7f617d270612040642w55f9f156w5443d54fb7d8099c@mail.gmail.com> References: <45723635.3060106@fedoraproject.org> <369bce3b0612022201i2c266ee5qae010e4adc46d68b@mail.gmail.com> <7f617d270612040642w55f9f156w5443d54fb7d8099c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 12/4/06, Alex Maier wrote: > > On 12/3/06, Santosh Kumar wrote: > > As Imtiaz just pointed out, once a request is accepted it becomes a > > obligation and one has to ensure that it has been fulfilled before the > next > > batch is accepted -- > > I would like to join in with Thomas Chung to say -- if you don't like > the way Free Media is currently fulfilled in India, what have *you* > done to make it better? > > Accepting a few requests and shipping them out could prove much more > effective than a new request tracker. I have previously done this... (August and September...) .. Now i have to replace my DVD writer and then i would be surely doing it!! btw, i took up this issue now just because i received more than 4 mails requesting me to clarify why they havent yet received their requests and with no other intention... and i had recently mailed the group that i wouldnt be able to participate in Shipping the Free Media until i graduate and thats the reason i even stepped down from being a co-ordinator of the Team India. I tried to convince that a better & efficient tracker was necessary and not to get pointed out.... Am sorry if i have done something wrong!! -- Santosh Kumar -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Now i have to > replace my DVD writer and then i would be surely doing it!! btw, i took up > this issue now just because i received more than 4 mails requesting me to > clarify why they havent yet received their requests and with no other > intention... and i had recently mailed the group that i wouldnt be able to > participate in Shipping the Free Media until i graduate and thats the reason > i even stepped down from being a co-ordinator of the Team India. I tried to > convince that a better & efficient tracker was necessary and not to get > pointed out.... Am sorry if i have done something wrong!! > -- > Santosh Kumar You have not done anything wrong. In the future, if anyone asking for status for their free media, please refer to our new coordinator in India or me to resolve the issue. Regards, -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung From ghenry at suretecsystems.com Mon Dec 4 19:17:40 2006 From: ghenry at suretecsystems.com (Gavin Henry) Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2006 19:17:40 -0000 (UTC) Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: Loot and LugRadio In-Reply-To: <4c91566f0612041047u1393a54dg457d9c389c9ba10e@mail.gmail.com> References: <4c91566f0612041047u1393a54dg457d9c389c9ba10e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <45973.192.168.100.90.1165259860.squirrel@webmail.suretecsystems.com> > Gavin, > > What are the chances of the Fedora Ambassadors sending me some free > Red Hat/Fedora loot to give out to my LUG at our Christmas party? I > spoke to J5 who pointed me in the direction of the Ambassadors for > this sort of thing :) > > Incidentally, I note on your wiki page over there that you have "To > look into getting a FDSCo interview on lugradio.org" as a todo item; I > might be able to help you with that ;-) > > sil > Cool! I'll speak Karsten and the Ambassadors group for you. What's the cut off date etc.? Gavin. -- Kind Regards, Gavin Henry. Managing Director. T +44 (0) 1224 279484 M +44 (0) 7930 323266 F +44 (0) 1224 824887 E ghenry at suretecsystems.com Open Source. Open Solutions(tm). http://www.suretecsystems.com/ From ghenry at suretecsystems.com Mon Dec 4 19:48:31 2006 From: ghenry at suretecsystems.com (Gavin Henry) Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2006 19:48:31 -0000 (UTC) Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: Loot and LugRadio In-Reply-To: <369bce3b0612041123q65cfd79cte4c831097096858e@mail.gmail.com> References: <4c91566f0612041047u1393a54dg457d9c389c9ba10e@mail.gmail.com> <45973.192.168.100.90.1165259860.squirrel@webmail.suretecsystems.com> <369bce3b0612041123q65cfd79cte4c831097096858e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <44651.192.168.100.90.1165261711.squirrel@webmail.suretecsystems.com> > On 12/4/06, Gavin Henry wrote: >> >> > Gavin, >> > >> > What are the chances of the Fedora Ambassadors sending me some free >> > Red Hat/Fedora loot to give out to my LUG at our Christmas party? I >> > spoke to J5 who pointed me in the direction of the Ambassadors for >> > this sort of thing :) >> > >> > Incidentally, I note on your wiki page over there that you have "To >> > look into getting a FDSCo interview on lugradio.org" as a todo item; I >> > might be able to help you with that ;-) >> > >> > sil >> > >> >> Cool! >> >> I'll speak Karsten and the Ambassadors group for you. What's the cut off >> date etc.? >> >> Gavin. >> >> -- >> Kind Regards, >> >> Gavin Henry > > Hi Gavin, > Please have him contact me direct. > I can send him some FC6 DVDs via Fedora Free Media Program. Hi Stuart, See above. Many thanks! Gavin. From lxmaier at gmail.com Mon Dec 4 21:26:42 2006 From: lxmaier at gmail.com (Alex Maier) Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2006 16:26:42 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] FreeMedia India Distribution Backlash In-Reply-To: References: <45723635.3060106@fedoraproject.org> <369bce3b0612022201i2c266ee5qae010e4adc46d68b@mail.gmail.com> <7f617d270612040642w55f9f156w5443d54fb7d8099c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <7f617d270612041326k160070e0p8f756961d500355d@mail.gmail.com> Santosh, You haven't done anything wrong, it's just that we are a very small group of people with very very limited resources, and so we need to rely more on ourselves to get the problems solved, since hoping for a dramatic increase in resources won't get us far :) We are all about guerilla-style marketing/promotion of Fedora, and even though it would be great to have a top-notch tracking system, a) it wouldn't do us any good if all we have to track are the same two people who cannot possibly fulfill all requests, and b) implementing and running such a system is a task in itself, and somebody needs to do it. Remember the old saying: "You name it, you own it"--so basically, if you wish to build a fine RT, nobody will stand in your way :) Cheers, a On 12/4/06, Santosh Kumar wrote: > > > > On 12/4/06, Alex Maier wrote: > > On 12/3/06, Santosh Kumar wrote: > > > As Imtiaz just pointed out, once a request is accepted it becomes a > > > obligation and one has to ensure that it has been fulfilled before the > next > > > batch is accepted -- > > > > I would like to join in with Thomas Chung to say -- if you don't like > > the way Free Media is currently fulfilled in India, what have *you* > > done to make it better? > > > > Accepting a few requests and shipping them out could prove much more > > effective than a new request tracker. > > I have previously done this... (August and September...) .. Now i have to > replace my DVD writer and then i would be surely doing it!! btw, i took up > this issue now just because i received more than 4 mails requesting me to > clarify why they havent yet received their requests and with no other > intention... and i had recently mailed the group that i wouldnt be able to > participate in Shipping the Free Media until i graduate and thats the reason > i even stepped down from being a co-ordinator of the Team India. I tried to > convince that a better & efficient tracker was necessary and not to get > pointed out.... Am sorry if i have done something wrong!! > -- > Santosh Kumar > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > -- Alex Maier Art and Photography [homepage] http://amaier.net [photos and art books] http://lulu.com/amaier [posters] http://www.art.com/memberartist/amaier From santosh at fedoraproject.org Tue Dec 5 02:16:49 2006 From: santosh at fedoraproject.org (Santosh Kumar) Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 07:46:49 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] FreeMedia India Distribution Backlash In-Reply-To: <7f617d270612041326k160070e0p8f756961d500355d@mail.gmail.com> References: <369bce3b0612022201i2c266ee5qae010e4adc46d68b@mail.gmail.com> <7f617d270612040642w55f9f156w5443d54fb7d8099c@mail.gmail.com> <7f617d270612041326k160070e0p8f756961d500355d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 12/5/06, Alex Maier wrote: > > Santosh, > > You haven't done anything wrong, it's just that we are a very small > group of people with very very limited resources, and so we need to > rely more on ourselves to get the problems solved, since hoping for a > dramatic increase in resources won't get us far :) > > We are all about guerilla-style marketing/promotion of Fedora, and > even though it would be great to have a top-notch tracking system, a) > it wouldn't do us any good if all we have to track are the same two > people who cannot possibly fulfill all requests, and b) implementing > and running such a system is a task in itself, and somebody needs to > do it. > > Remember the old saying: "You name it, you own it"--so basically, if > you wish to build a fine RT, nobody will stand in your way :) > > Cheers, > a Sure Alex... These words will stay on my mind and i will write up a Tracker after my exams later this month. Regards -- Santosh Kumar -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michel.salim at gmail.com Tue Dec 5 06:50:29 2006 From: michel.salim at gmail.com (Michel Salim) Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 01:50:29 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Proposal: Link to low-cost CD presses Message-ID: <883cfe6d0612042250v27f9bc21g5e00bbb013ac923c@mail.gmail.com> Hello, I notice that quite a few of the requests made to the Free Media program came from USA, Canada, UK etc. It seems to me that at least some of the request originators would be happy to use low-cost presses like Cheapbytes instead but did not know that they exist. Could we perhaps put up a page on the Wiki with links to such sites? I've used Cheapbytes, Linux Emporium (United Kingdom) and a similar service in Indonesia in the past, and have generally been very satisfied. The Indonesian operation (I can't recall the name at the moment) even delivers by courier to your house if you live in the capital. This would probably allow us to reach more people who *really* cannot get access to the DVDs otherwise (or have reasons not to trust online vendors) Regards, -- Michel Salim http://hircus.wordpress.com/ My theology, briefly, is that the universe was dictated but not signed. -- Christopher Morley From siddharth at techbugs.org Tue Dec 5 18:01:05 2006 From: siddharth at techbugs.org (Siddharth Upmanyu) Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 23:31:05 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] FreeMedia India December List Message-ID: Hi All... we are looking at more then 110 requests this month (in just 4 days) in India and there is going to be huge shortage of approving Ambassadors... as i will be taking up around 30 requests majority of them will still be left out... 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Once again this is a volunteer program and we need to *clarify* that not everyone will get their requests fulfilled. This is a "best-effort" service not a "grantee" service. Regards, -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung From tchung at fedoraproject.org Tue Dec 5 18:35:07 2006 From: tchung at fedoraproject.org (Thomas Chung) Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 10:35:07 -0800 Subject: [Ambassadors] FreeMedia India December List In-Reply-To: <369bce3b0612051033y61699698u945173e5422359ba@mail.gmail.com> References: <369bce3b0612051033y61699698u945173e5422359ba@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <369bce3b0612051035n26a1b69eo97d5e5fb041e1b1a@mail.gmail.com> On 12/5/06, Thomas Chung wrote: > We should also check if there are any Duplicate Requests. > I've noticed some of them are requested by a same person or same address. > Once again this is a volunteer program and we need to *clarify* that > not everyone will get their requests fulfilled. This is a > "best-effort" service not a "grantee" service. > Regards, Sorry, I meant "guarantee" service. Regards, -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung From maxime.carron at fedoraproject.org Tue Dec 5 21:16:58 2006 From: maxime.carron at fedoraproject.org (Maxime Carron) Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2006 22:16:58 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] FreeMedia India December List In-Reply-To: <369bce3b0612051035n26a1b69eo97d5e5fb041e1b1a@mail.gmail.com> References: <369bce3b0612051033y61699698u945173e5422359ba@mail.gmail.com> <369bce3b0612051035n26a1b69eo97d5e5fb041e1b1a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1165353418.2843.6.camel@fc6.falloy.be> Le mardi 05 d?cembre 2006 ? 10:35 -0800, Thomas Chung a ?crit : > On 12/5/06, Thomas Chung wrote: > > We should also check if there are any Duplicate Requests. > > I've noticed some of them are requested by a same person or same address. > > Once again this is a volunteer program and we need to *clarify* that > > not everyone will get their requests fulfilled. This is a > > "best-effort" service not a "grantee" service. > > Regards, > > Sorry, I meant "guarantee" service. > Regards, Perhaps you could propose to people in the same city to meet, and have a "Fedora copy party", explaining that's a volunteer and "B-E" service, and you can't support this huge request. Perhaps it's also possible to define a limit. For example 50 DVDs/country/month. Regards, -- Maxime Carron Fedora Ambassador Fedora-fr Community Manager From tchung at fedoraproject.org Tue Dec 5 21:22:35 2006 From: tchung at fedoraproject.org (Thomas Chung) Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 13:22:35 -0800 Subject: [Ambassadors] FreeMedia India December List In-Reply-To: <1165353418.2843.6.camel@fc6.falloy.be> References: <369bce3b0612051033y61699698u945173e5422359ba@mail.gmail.com> <369bce3b0612051035n26a1b69eo97d5e5fb041e1b1a@mail.gmail.com> <1165353418.2843.6.camel@fc6.falloy.be> Message-ID: <369bce3b0612051322m16066813nc8e8974dffb63015@mail.gmail.com> On 12/5/06, Maxime Carron wrote: > Perhaps you could propose to people in the same city to meet, and have a > "Fedora copy party", explaining that's a volunteer and "B-E" service, > and you can't support this huge request. > > Perhaps it's also possible to define a limit. > For example 50 DVDs/country/month. > > Regards, Sounds like a good idea. As far as setting a limit or capacity is entirely up-to the coordinator in their respective country program. Regards, -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung From tchung at fedoraproject.org Tue Dec 5 21:35:24 2006 From: tchung at fedoraproject.org (Thomas Chung) Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 13:35:24 -0800 Subject: [Ambassadors] FreeMedia India December List In-Reply-To: <369bce3b0612051322m16066813nc8e8974dffb63015@mail.gmail.com> References: <369bce3b0612051033y61699698u945173e5422359ba@mail.gmail.com> <369bce3b0612051035n26a1b69eo97d5e5fb041e1b1a@mail.gmail.com> <1165353418.2843.6.camel@fc6.falloy.be> <369bce3b0612051322m16066813nc8e8974dffb63015@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <369bce3b0612051335y784ede83g3891c696627568ba@mail.gmail.com> On 12/5/06, Thomas Chung wrote: > On 12/5/06, Maxime Carron wrote: > > Perhaps you could propose to people in the same city to meet, and have a > > "Fedora copy party", explaining that's a volunteer and "B-E" service, > > and you can't support this huge request. > > > > Perhaps it's also possible to define a limit. > > For example 50 DVDs/country/month. > > > > Regards, > > Sounds like a good idea. > As far as setting a limit or capacity is entirely up-to the > coordinator in their respective country program. > Regards, I just add following announcement in Fedora Free Media Program India. '''2006-12-05 Fedora Free Media Program India reached its capacity. It will no longer accept requests from India.''' -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung From fhornain at gmail.com Wed Dec 6 15:55:24 2006 From: fhornain at gmail.com (Frederic Hornain) Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 16:55:24 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] FOSDEM - February 2007 - Message-ID: <3161376e0612060755x2a06bd65hc03080a8b4cbc78b@mail.gmail.com> Dear *, As I have already written it to Damien Durand, I have reserved a booth - actually a table of 2m width - for Fedora at the Fosdem as well as a dev room - conference room - that we should share alternatively with the CentOS People. This is the both confirmation from the Fosdem Team : > This is the official confirmation that your request for a Developer Room > at FOSDEM 2007 has been accepted and booked. > > The room at your disposal will be H.2214 (capacity is 100 seats), > - - Saturday: 14:00 -> 19:00 > - - Sunday: 09:00 -> 18:00 >>This is the official confirmation that your request for a stand/booth at >>FOSDEM 2007 has been accepted and booked. >>Number of stands for your project: 1 >>All stands are located in the hallway of the main building (H). >>The stand(s) will be at your disposal, >>- - Saturday: 14:00 -> 18:00 >>- - Sunday: 09:00 -> 18:00 I have already contacted RedHat Benelux in order to let them know that we will be their. They will be their too at the same booth as well as Jboss Benelux. In addition, someone from Jboss should do a presentation. So everybody Fedora people are welcome to be present at this event and it could be intersting to do an European FUDCON in the same time cause like last year a lot of Red Hat and Fedora Developpers should be there. Tell me what you think about it. Nonetheless, a lot of things have still to be done. For instance : I need that people who have planned to be there register. I need to have confirmation that some people should do presentation in the developpment room. I need tee-shirt, hoarding, banniers, dvds, and other stuffs like last year. I really need help in order to make this event succesfull. etc.. BTW MrTom, will you be there as well like last year ? Thanks a lot in advance. Keep you in touch as soon as I have got other news. ----------------------------------------------------- Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com Olpc mailing list olpc-open at laptop.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From chitlesh at fedoraproject.org Wed Dec 6 16:01:32 2006 From: chitlesh at fedoraproject.org (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 17:01:32 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] FOSDEM - February 2007 - In-Reply-To: <3161376e0612060755x2a06bd65hc03080a8b4cbc78b@mail.gmail.com> References: <3161376e0612060755x2a06bd65hc03080a8b4cbc78b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0612060801u30e57cf4o9eea39ab89ea8bdf@mail.gmail.com> On 12/6/06, Frederic Hornain wrote: > Dear *, > > > > As I have already written it to Damien Durand, I have reserved a booth - > actually a table of 2m width - for Fedora at the Fosdem as well as a dev > room - conference room - that we should share alternatively with the CentOS > People. > > > This is the both confirmation from the Fosdem Team : > > > This is the official confirmation that your request for a Developer Room > > at FOSDEM 2007 has been accepted and booked. > > > > The room at your disposal will be H.2214 (capacity is 100 seats), > > - - Saturday: 14:00 -> 19:00 > > - - Sunday: 09:00 -> 18:00 > > > >>This is the official confirmation that your request for a stand/booth at > >>FOSDEM 2007 has been accepted and booked. > >>Number of stands for your project: 1 > >>All stands are located in the hallway of the main building (H). > >>The stand(s) will be at your disposal, > >>- - Saturday: 14:00 -> 18:00 > >>- - Sunday: 09:00 -> 18:00 > I have already contacted RedHat Benelux in order to let them know that we > will be their. > They will be their too at the same booth as well as Jboss Benelux. > In addition, someone from Jboss should do a presentation. > > So everybody Fedora people are welcome to be present at this event and it > could be intersting to do an European FUDCON in the same time cause like > last year a lot of Red Hat and Fedora Developpers should be there. > Tell me what you think about it. > > Nonetheless, a lot of things have still to be done. > For instance : > I need that people who have planned to be there register. > I need to have confirmation that some people should do presentation in the > developpment room. > I need tee-shirt, hoarding, banniers, dvds, and other stuffs like last year. > I really need help in order to make this event succesfull. > etc.. > > BTW MrTom, will you be there as well like last year ? > > Thanks a lot in advance. > Keep you in touch as soon as I have got other news. > ----------------------------------------------------- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > Olpc mailing list > olpc-open at laptop.org Hello, may I know why you haven't reply to my private mails to you on this ? chitlesh -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com From fhornain at gmail.com Wed Dec 6 16:05:15 2006 From: fhornain at gmail.com (Frederic Hornain) Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 17:05:15 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] FOSDEM - February 2007 - In-Reply-To: <13dbfe4f0612060801u30e57cf4o9eea39ab89ea8bdf@mail.gmail.com> References: <3161376e0612060755x2a06bd65hc03080a8b4cbc78b@mail.gmail.com> <13dbfe4f0612060801u30e57cf4o9eea39ab89ea8bdf@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <3161376e0612060805o6ebb6f36g8b0f52b3f82054c7@mail.gmail.com> Dear Chritlesh; I am sorry however I did not receive your private mail. I only received one for this from Damien Durand. That is all. Nonetheless, it you want to be a part of this project, Welcome on board. :) Sorry again :( Best Regards Fred On 12/6/06, Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: > > On 12/6/06, Frederic Hornain wrote: > > Dear *, > > > > > > > > As I have already written it to Damien Durand, I have reserved a booth > - > > actually a table of 2m width - for Fedora at the Fosdem as well as a > dev > > room - conference room - that we should share alternatively with the > CentOS > > People. > > > > > > This is the both confirmation from the Fosdem Team : > > > > > This is the official confirmation that your request for a Developer > Room > > > at FOSDEM 2007 has been accepted and booked. > > > > > > The room at your disposal will be H.2214 (capacity is 100 seats), > > > - - Saturday: 14:00 -> 19:00 > > > - - Sunday: 09:00 -> 18:00 > > > > > > >>This is the official confirmation that your request for a stand/booth > at > > >>FOSDEM 2007 has been accepted and booked. > > >>Number of stands for your project: 1 > > >>All stands are located in the hallway of the main building (H). > > >>The stand(s) will be at your disposal, > > >>- - Saturday: 14:00 -> 18:00 > > >>- - Sunday: 09:00 -> 18:00 > > I have already contacted RedHat Benelux in order to let them know that > we > > will be their. > > They will be their too at the same booth as well as Jboss Benelux. > > In addition, someone from Jboss should do a presentation. > > > > So everybody Fedora people are welcome to be present at this event and > it > > could be intersting to do an European FUDCON in the same time cause like > > last year a lot of Red Hat and Fedora Developpers should be there. > > Tell me what you think about it. > > > > Nonetheless, a lot of things have still to be done. > > For instance : > > I need that people who have planned to be there register. > > I need to have confirmation that some people should do presentation in > the > > developpment room. > > I need tee-shirt, hoarding, banniers, dvds, and other stuffs like last > year. > > I really need help in order to make this event succesfull. > > etc.. > > > > BTW MrTom, will you be there as well like last year ? > > > > Thanks a lot in advance. > > Keep you in touch as soon as I have got other news. > > ----------------------------------------------------- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > Olpc mailing list > > olpc-open at laptop.org > > > Hello, > > may I know why you haven't reply to my private mails to you on this ? > > chitlesh > -- > http://clunixchit.blogspot.com > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- ----------------------------------------------------- Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com Olpc mailing list olpc-open at laptop.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fbrand at redhat.com Wed Dec 6 22:08:25 2006 From: fbrand at redhat.com (Florian Brand) Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2006 17:08:25 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] FOSDEM - February 2007 - In-Reply-To: <3161376e0612060755x2a06bd65hc03080a8b4cbc78b@mail.gmail.com> References: <3161376e0612060755x2a06bd65hc03080a8b4cbc78b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <45773F59.4090709@redhat.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi, > As I have already written it to Damien Durand, I have reserved a > booth - actually a table of 2m width - for > Fedora at the Fosdem as well as a dev room - conference room - that we > should share alternatively with the CentOS People. > I will be there at the conference. Do you know when the dead line is for the talks? Frederic, I can help you with the talk organization. We should start the CFP as soon as possible. I suggest English as the preferred FudCon conference language. Let me know if you need anything from the Red Hat side. I'll will meet the EMEA marketing people next week. Best regards Florian Brand -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFdz9ZaueqRSbxcMoRAneVAJ9B0yH5rzC5emNjr5TQ/s/wSV/JLwCgsRTw t2K4v//tQPlWphqgSULyAUs= =U7ip -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From chitlesh at fedoraproject.org Wed Dec 6 16:09:33 2006 From: chitlesh at fedoraproject.org (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 17:09:33 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] FOSDEM - February 2007 - In-Reply-To: <3161376e0612060755x2a06bd65hc03080a8b4cbc78b@mail.gmail.com> References: <3161376e0612060755x2a06bd65hc03080a8b4cbc78b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0612060809v3b29b1bdiec30ed194f794d57@mail.gmail.com> On 12/6/06, Frederic Hornain wrote: > Nonetheless, a lot of things have still to be done. > For instance : > I need that people who have planned to be there register. > I need to have confirmation that some people should do presentation in the > developpment room. > I need tee-shirt, hoarding, banniers, dvds, and other stuffs like last year. > I really need help in order to make this event succesfull. > etc.. In my private mails to you, I've offered my help :) Like I said to you, I would like that Only one order be made for the fosdem event. chitlesh -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com From chitlesh at fedoraproject.org Wed Dec 6 16:19:47 2006 From: chitlesh at fedoraproject.org (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 17:19:47 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] FOSDEM - February 2007 - In-Reply-To: <3161376e0612060805o6ebb6f36g8b0f52b3f82054c7@mail.gmail.com> References: <3161376e0612060755x2a06bd65hc03080a8b4cbc78b@mail.gmail.com> <13dbfe4f0612060801u30e57cf4o9eea39ab89ea8bdf@mail.gmail.com> <3161376e0612060805o6ebb6f36g8b0f52b3f82054c7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0612060819r334d54efv4b713e1b203867ce@mail.gmail.com> On 12/6/06, Frederic Hornain wrote: > Dear Chritlesh; > > I am sorry however I did not receive your private mail. > I only received one for this from Damien Durand. > That is all. > Nonetheless, it you want to be a part of this project, > Welcome on board. :) Ive forward my private mails to you again (@gmail one) hoping we can work together. chitlesh -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com From tchung at fedoraproject.org Wed Dec 6 18:21:58 2006 From: tchung at fedoraproject.org (Thomas Chung) Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 10:21:58 -0800 Subject: [Ambassadors] FOSDEM - February 2007 - In-Reply-To: <3161376e0612060755x2a06bd65hc03080a8b4cbc78b@mail.gmail.com> References: <3161376e0612060755x2a06bd65hc03080a8b4cbc78b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <369bce3b0612061021u4e88c3f1k8d8720187ed08889@mail.gmail.com> On 12/6/06, Frederic Hornain wrote: > As I have already written it to Damien Durand, I have reserved a booth - > actually a table of 2m width - for Fedora at the Fosdem as well as a dev > room - conference room - that we should share alternatively with the CentOS > People. Frederic, Please submit a request via Fedora Ambassadors Material Request Form. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/GetStuff Regards, -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung From chitlesh at fedoraproject.org Wed Dec 6 18:29:58 2006 From: chitlesh at fedoraproject.org (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 19:29:58 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] FOSDEM - February 2007 - In-Reply-To: <369bce3b0612061021u4e88c3f1k8d8720187ed08889@mail.gmail.com> References: <3161376e0612060755x2a06bd65hc03080a8b4cbc78b@mail.gmail.com> <369bce3b0612061021u4e88c3f1k8d8720187ed08889@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0612061029n15db10ebvc92c112990f6c782@mail.gmail.com> On 12/6/06, Thomas Chung wrote: > Frederic, > Please submit a request via Fedora Ambassadors Material Request Form. > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/GetStuff > Regards, Please HOLD ON ! Ok, I was waiting for the FAD meeting minutes to be posted first, but since you are all pushing things to quick :), ill spit At the FAD we decided to organise FUDCon at FOSDEM. That's what my private mails to Frederic are. I think It's a bad idea to request dvds now, since we don't have fosdem's green light for our FUDCon. Since frederic is on wiki/FedoraEvents for FOSDEM, he will be the one in contact to FOSDEM organizers. Right now we are waiting for the green light, Frederic's response. Once we have it; we can request the desired amount on a sole order. I'm not for 20 persons ordering for the same event. chitlesh -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com From francesco.ugolini at fedoraproject.org Wed Dec 6 18:35:29 2006 From: francesco.ugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2006 19:35:29 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] FOSDEM - February 2007 - In-Reply-To: <13dbfe4f0612061029n15db10ebvc92c112990f6c782@mail.gmail.com> References: <3161376e0612060755x2a06bd65hc03080a8b4cbc78b@mail.gmail.com> <369bce3b0612061021u4e88c3f1k8d8720187ed08889@mail.gmail.com> <13dbfe4f0612061029n15db10ebvc92c112990f6c782@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <45770D71.9070209@fedoraproject.org> Chitlesh GOORAH ha scritto: > On 12/6/06, Thomas Chung wrote: >> Frederic, >> Please submit a request via Fedora Ambassadors Material Request Form. >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/GetStuff >> Regards, > > Please HOLD ON ! > Ok, I was waiting for the FAD meeting minutes to be posted first, but > since you are all pushing things to quick :), ill spit > > At the FAD we decided to organise FUDCon at FOSDEM. That's what my > private mails to Frederic are. > > I think It's a bad idea to request dvds now, since we don't have > fosdem's green light for our FUDCon. Since frederic is on > wiki/FedoraEvents for FOSDEM, he will be the one in contact to FOSDEM > organizers. Right now we are waiting for the green light, Frederic's > response. Once we have it; we can request the desired amount on a sole > order. > I'm not for 20 persons ordering for the same event. > > chitlesh +1 From simon at simline.de Wed Dec 6 19:46:35 2006 From: simon at simline.de (simon) Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 20:46:35 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] FOSDEM - February 2007 - In-Reply-To: <3161376e0612060755x2a06bd65hc03080a8b4cbc78b@mail.gmail.com> References: <3161376e0612060755x2a06bd65hc03080a8b4cbc78b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200612062046.39215.simon@simline.de> Am Mittwoch, 6. Dezember 2006 16:55 schrieb Frederic Hornain: > Nonetheless, a lot of things have still to be done. > For instance : > I need that people who have planned to be there register. > I need to have confirmation that some people should do presentation in the > developpment room. > I need tee-shirt, hoarding, banniers, dvds, and other stuffs like last > year. I really need help in order to make this event succesfull. > etc.. may wait till the FAD Meeting Minutes are posted, then you will realise this event becomes really big. i will be there, i can support at the booth - maybe we show the people besides all the eyecandy stuff, XEN and Fedora Directory Server, Maybe a little ISCSI Target. Florian can you sponsor some hardware for this event i can transport them. 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We had nice and productive days for the Fedora Ambassador Project and we proudly present to you what we have done and dicussed. All information which we like to announce can be found at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD/PassedFADs Hope everybody will agree with our work, we've done and maybe the next FAD will be hold in another region. The decisions taken, are decisions which every attendee agrees to 100% and we'll do our best to make these decissions happen. Any comments? Photos: http://www.simline.de/simon/ or (slower connection) https://kermit.homelinux.net/gallery2/main.php -- Regards Gerold Kassube Fedora Ambassador Deutschland / Germany Schweiz / Switzerland Email: GeroldKa at fedoraproject.org 1024D/F33128B9 4ABC A903 F1F4 D9CC C422 AACA EDF1 DF42 F331 28B9 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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These potential contributors would like to become ambassadors at the same time this title should not destroy their professional image. This is problem of wordings in the wiki. In fact, there are several cases like these in the Fedora Marketing Mailing list. Can it be rewritten appropriately to provide on/off Fedora Ambassador status ? Please note, that among those who are concerned by this, have already contributed to the Fedora Project and still will, but would like to be Fedora Ambassador at the time, and not during their working hours. chitlesh -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com From gerold at lugd.org Wed Dec 6 21:17:46 2006 From: gerold at lugd.org (Gerold Kassube) Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2006 22:17:46 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] FOSDEM - February 2007 - In-Reply-To: <1165435767.3328.26.camel@fluffy.mrtomlinux> References: <3161376e0612060755x2a06bd65hc03080a8b4cbc78b@mail.gmail.com> <1165435767.3328.26.camel@fluffy.mrtomlinux> Message-ID: <1165439866.19905.28.camel@Amilo-GK.homenet.local> Am Mittwoch, den 06.12.2006, 21:09 +0100 schrieb Thomas Canniot: > Of course I will :) btw. please all have a look at the meeting minutes of the FAD at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD/PassedFADs there you can find: - Fosdem will be if we can arrange it with the help of Frederic the biggest FEDORA Event in EMEA (with participation of the Fedora Board and also Max Spevack) - The participant of the FAD will all attend the FOSDEM - We like to place a FUDCon there ... Lot of things must be done within the next days and weeks. Frederic, you as the local Ambassador will get the lead to bring all to the Fosdem-organisation. We also figured out, that Chitlesh should be the "liasion officer" within these big european Fedora event in 2007 ... Everybody should help to have the FOSDEM as the success it has to be! Just my five cents :-) -- Regards Gerold Kassube Fedora Ambassador Deutschland / Germany Schweiz / Switzerland Email: GeroldKa at fedoraproject.org 1024D/F33128B9 4ABC A903 F1F4 D9CC C422 AACA EDF1 DF42 F331 28B9 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil URL: From guillermo.gomez at gmail.com Thu Dec 7 16:11:03 2006 From: guillermo.gomez at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?Ikd1aWxsZXJtbyBHw7NtZXogUy4i?=) Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2006 12:11:03 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] Name for future Fedora distribition? In-Reply-To: <1164892568.5387.2.camel@fluffy.mrtomlinux> References: <1164872241.456e8a31123fd@ssl.mecca.ca> <1164891913.5387.0.camel@fluffy.mrtomlinux> <1164892211.3443.4.camel@Amilo-GK.homenet.local> <1164892568.5387.2.camel@fluffy.mrtomlinux> Message-ID: <45783D17.8000006@gmail.com> Thomas Canniot wrote: > Le jeudi 30 novembre 2006 ? 14:10 +0100, Gerold Kassube a ?crit : > >> why not only >> >> *FEDORA* >> >> this says all :-) >> >> Regards >> >> Gerold >> > > +1 -- Gomix Guillermo G?mez S. cms fedora-ve http://www.fedora-ve.org blog http://blog.gomix.org soporte fedora-ve en irc.freenode.net, canal fedora-ve lista email fedora-ve at googlegroups.com Key fingerprint = 3143 8BDB 48A2 3241 E62A B743 D177 CAD7 3205 A464 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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We have underlined many important aspects of Ambassador/Contributors work. I invite everybody to read what we have decided and the issues that we have discussed and, if you want, to say your opinion. Thanks Francesco Ugolini From chitlesh at fedoraproject.org Fri Dec 8 16:31:15 2006 From: chitlesh at fedoraproject.org (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 17:31:15 +0100 Subject: on/off ambassador status (was Re: [Ambassadors] Meeting minutes of the FAD) In-Reply-To: <13dbfe4f0612061307m31c73c2fsdcd03f655d92f179@mail.gmail.com> References: <13dbfe4f0612061307m31c73c2fsdcd03f655d92f179@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0612080831l4e35b387pae3a936cb4b2f413@mail.gmail.com> On 12/6/06, Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: > Can it be rewritten appropriately to provide on/off Fedora Ambassador status ? > Please note, that among those who are concerned by this, have already > contributed to the Fedora Project and still will, but would like to be > Fedora Ambassador at that time, and not during their working hours. Does this mean I have the green light ? chitlesh -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Fri Dec 8 16:31:50 2006 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2006 22:01:50 +0530 Subject: on/off ambassador status (was Re: [Ambassadors] Meeting minutes of the FAD) In-Reply-To: <13dbfe4f0612080831l4e35b387pae3a936cb4b2f413@mail.gmail.com> References: <13dbfe4f0612061307m31c73c2fsdcd03f655d92f179@mail.gmail.com> <13dbfe4f0612080831l4e35b387pae3a936cb4b2f413@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <45799376.8050304@fedoraproject.org> Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: > On 12/6/06, Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: >> Can it be rewritten appropriately to provide on/off Fedora Ambassador >> status ? >> Please note, that among those who are concerned by this, have already >> contributed to the Fedora Project and still will, but would like to be >> Fedora Ambassador at that time, and not during their working hours. > > Does this mean I have the green light ? > Atleast for me, I didnt have much of a clue what the whole issue was. Rahul From chitlesh at fedoraproject.org Fri Dec 8 16:56:01 2006 From: chitlesh at fedoraproject.org (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 17:56:01 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] FAMSCo was (Re: Meeting minutes of the FAD) Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0612080856x59e5b840j94159ab94075f7fc@mail.gmail.com> Hello there, among the things discussions during the FAD, we discussed also FAMSCo status :) I know we have already talked about the JoergSimon's request for DVDs before the last FAMSCo election. But anyway, I'll talk about it again, but as an example. There was an interesting request for Fedora media by a german university and this request was approved by the last FAMSCo members, but unfortunately it wasn't shipped and neither my email to FAMSco wasn't replied. In the end, we lost a very good opportunity for fedora marketing and at the same time those who participated were left behind. Since then ThomasChung is doing a for great job and I congratulate him for that. However, to prevent this next time, we (the FAD attendees) have come to a "possible" solution which might be, "elect one FAMSco member per region/continent". This FAMSCo member will be elected from the ambassadors from his/her region only and as the same time will be entitled to give priority to the requests of his/her ambassadors. Let's say "Big events will be having greater budget/dvds" Knowing the fact that, 1. many regions don't have enough ambassadors 2. and perhaps those ambassadors are fairly new to the team (from that region) it might be difficult to assign a FAMSco member to those regions, (due to the responsibilities) In this case, another ambassadors from another regions can do the replacement. Also, we (the FAD attendees) are FOR to boost the Fedora Mentor Project with respect to the Fedora Ambassador Project. Some "old" fedora ambassadors can join in the Fedora Mentor Project to help - FAMSco members - new ambassadors (we feel also that some new ambassadors don't share the same fedora interest but only their personal interest) - [...] Again we are saying more REAL commitment from fedora ambassadors. (not meant for people who are _really_ contributing) Comments/Suggestions/Enhancements ?? Chitlesh -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com From chitlesh at fedoraproject.org Fri Dec 8 17:13:27 2006 From: chitlesh at fedoraproject.org (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 18:13:27 +0100 Subject: on/off ambassador status (was Re: [Ambassadors] Meeting minutes of the FAD) In-Reply-To: <45799376.8050304@fedoraproject.org> References: <13dbfe4f0612061307m31c73c2fsdcd03f655d92f179@mail.gmail.com> <13dbfe4f0612080831l4e35b387pae3a936cb4b2f413@mail.gmail.com> <45799376.8050304@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0612080913g1261715ej4c34afefeb5bef47@mail.gmail.com> On 12/8/06, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Atleast for me, I didnt have much of a clue what the whole issue was. In short, Some Fedora Supporters and contributors during wiki/FedoraEvents would like to be Fedora ambassadors only when they are not working for their company or professional work. An example might be: someone teaching novell/microsoft stuffs to earn money, but during their spare time they promote Fedora. However they want to be Fedora ambassadors during their spare time and the wordings in the wiki prevents them to do so. chitlesh -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com From chitlesh at fedoraproject.org Fri Dec 8 17:17:42 2006 From: chitlesh at fedoraproject.org (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 18:17:42 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] FOSDEM - February 2007 - In-Reply-To: <1165439866.19905.28.camel@Amilo-GK.homenet.local> References: <3161376e0612060755x2a06bd65hc03080a8b4cbc78b@mail.gmail.com> <1165435767.3328.26.camel@fluffy.mrtomlinux> <1165439866.19905.28.camel@Amilo-GK.homenet.local> Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0612080917n5c675080h32bd3230e5e07a37@mail.gmail.com> On 12/6/06, Gerold Kassube wrote: > Everybody should help to have the FOSDEM as the success it has to be! +1 Anyone planning to attend FOSDEM please fill in http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/FOSDEM Do let us know what you know and what is missing. I'm hoping that this wiki page and the ambassadors lists be our ground for the organisation :) chitlesh -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com From chitlesh at fedoraproject.org Fri Dec 8 17:30:03 2006 From: chitlesh at fedoraproject.org (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 18:30:03 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Ambassadors List only Ambassadors only was (Re: Meeting minutes of the FAD) Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0612080930v43781645m9315b4a4ff94dde9@mail.gmail.com> Hello there, among those things discussed during the FAD, their was "closing down subscription to Fedora Ambassadors list for non Fedora Ambassadors" We had it in the past and I don't find the mail why now everyone can subscribe to the Fedora Ambassadors List ? This list (ambassadors list) is intended for Fedora Ambassadors discussions and preparation for their events. It should be reserved to Fedora Ambassadors only (archives can be public). Preparation for an event (for fedora) is crucial and should be taken seriously, here other fedora ambassadors can discuss things seriously with other fedora ambassadors freely and he/she is sure to be able to contact that person (due to CLA and stuffs). (At least by e-mail.) At the same time, it gives the Fedora Ambassador Project its uniqueness :) Fedora Marketing Mailing List can be left for anyone to subscribe. comments/suggestions ? chitlesh -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Fri Dec 8 17:32:59 2006 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2006 23:02:59 +0530 Subject: on/off ambassador status (was Re: [Ambassadors] Meeting minutes of the FAD) In-Reply-To: <13dbfe4f0612080913g1261715ej4c34afefeb5bef47@mail.gmail.com> References: <13dbfe4f0612061307m31c73c2fsdcd03f655d92f179@mail.gmail.com> <13dbfe4f0612080831l4e35b387pae3a936cb4b2f413@mail.gmail.com> <45799376.8050304@fedoraproject.org> <13dbfe4f0612080913g1261715ej4c34afefeb5bef47@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4579A1CB.5040102@fedoraproject.org> Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: > On 12/8/06, Rahul Sundaram wrote: >> Atleast for me, I didnt have much of a clue what the whole issue was. > > In short, > Some Fedora Supporters and contributors during wiki/FedoraEvents would > like to be Fedora ambassadors only when they are not working for their > company or professional work. > > An example might be: > someone teaching novell/microsoft stuffs to earn money, but during > their spare time they promote Fedora. However they want to be Fedora > ambassadors during their spare time and the wordings in the wiki > prevents them to do so. You are misreading what is written in the wiki. Ambassadors are volunteers and the conduct is a general set of guidelines. There is nothing in the guidelines which can ever prevent anyone from playing the role of a ambassadors as and when they want. Rahul From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Fri Dec 8 17:33:31 2006 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2006 23:03:31 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Ambassadors List only Ambassadors only was (Re: Meeting minutes of the FAD) In-Reply-To: <13dbfe4f0612080930v43781645m9315b4a4ff94dde9@mail.gmail.com> References: <13dbfe4f0612080930v43781645m9315b4a4ff94dde9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4579A1EB.1000007@fedoraproject.org> Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: > Hello there, > among those things discussed during the FAD, their was "closing down > subscription to Fedora Ambassadors list for non Fedora Ambassadors" > > We had it in the past and I don't find the mail why now everyone can > subscribe to the Fedora Ambassadors List ? > > This list (ambassadors list) is intended for Fedora Ambassadors > discussions and preparation for their events. It should be reserved to > Fedora Ambassadors only (archives can be public). Preparation for an > event (for fedora) is crucial and should be taken seriously, here > other fedora ambassadors can discuss things seriously with other > fedora ambassadors freely and he/she is sure to be able to contact > that person (due to CLA and stuffs). (At least by e-mail.) At the same > time, it gives the Fedora Ambassador Project its uniqueness :) > > Fedora Marketing Mailing List can be left for anyone to subscribe. > > comments/suggestions ? This list is still ambassadors only. Rahul From chitlesh at fedoraproject.org Fri Dec 8 17:38:40 2006 From: chitlesh at fedoraproject.org (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 18:38:40 +0100 Subject: on/off ambassador status (was Re: [Ambassadors] Meeting minutes of the FAD) In-Reply-To: <4579A1CB.5040102@fedoraproject.org> References: <13dbfe4f0612061307m31c73c2fsdcd03f655d92f179@mail.gmail.com> <13dbfe4f0612080831l4e35b387pae3a936cb4b2f413@mail.gmail.com> <45799376.8050304@fedoraproject.org> <13dbfe4f0612080913g1261715ej4c34afefeb5bef47@mail.gmail.com> <4579A1CB.5040102@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0612080938s7955d530u19a97244779d052f@mail.gmail.com> On 12/8/06, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > You are misreading what is written in the wiki. Ambassadors are > volunteers and the conduct is a general set of guidelines. There is > nothing in the guidelines which can ever prevent anyone from playing the > role of a ambassadors as and when they want. > " You are Fedora. As an ambassador, you don't just represent yourself, you represent the Fedora Project. When people think of you, they will think of the Fedora Project. " For someone who is working for another project, it's not appropriate for their professional image right ? chitlesh -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com From chitlesh at fedoraproject.org Fri Dec 8 17:42:31 2006 From: chitlesh at fedoraproject.org (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 18:42:31 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Ambassadors List only Ambassadors only was (Re: Meeting minutes of the FAD) In-Reply-To: <4579A1EB.1000007@fedoraproject.org> References: <13dbfe4f0612080930v43781645m9315b4a4ff94dde9@mail.gmail.com> <4579A1EB.1000007@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0612080942j47976e18ka1b6214cc0fdad7f@mail.gmail.com> On 12/8/06, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > > This list is still ambassadors only. > that's true :) ThomasChung you can delete my ChitTest :) chitlesh -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com From linux at elfshadow.net Fri Dec 8 17:48:49 2006 From: linux at elfshadow.net (Jeffrey Tadlock) Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2006 12:48:49 -0500 Subject: on/off ambassador status (was Re: [Ambassadors] Meeting minutes of the FAD) In-Reply-To: <13dbfe4f0612080913g1261715ej4c34afefeb5bef47@mail.gmail.com> References: <13dbfe4f0612061307m31c73c2fsdcd03f655d92f179@mail.gmail.com> <13dbfe4f0612080831l4e35b387pae3a936cb4b2f413@mail.gmail.com> <45799376.8050304@fedoraproject.org> <13dbfe4f0612080913g1261715ej4c34afefeb5bef47@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4579A581.6040201@elfshadow.net> [Re-send. I think the first was lost in ether.] Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: > Some Fedora Supporters and contributors during wiki/FedoraEvents would > like to be Fedora ambassadors only when they are not working for their > company or professional work. > > An example might be: > someone teaching novell/microsoft stuffs to earn money, but during > their spare time they promote Fedora. However they want to be Fedora > ambassadors during their spare time and the wordings in the wiki > prevents them to do so. I don't see what is preventing them from being a Fedora Ambassador. I am sure there are numerous Fedora Ambassadors who might work during the day with a different OS, but still make great Ambassadors when they participate in local LUG events. The part you quoted earlier: "As an ambassador, you don't just represent yourself, you represent the Fedora Project. When people think of you, they will think of the Fedora Project. This means that there are some important rules to follow, and giving the right impression is important." is from the Fedora Ambassador Conduct page in the Wiki. That statement means to remember when you are in public, representing the Fedora Project to act appropriately. It then goes on to list specific things to aware of - none of which would rule out someone working as a novell/microsoft trainer from being an Ambassador in their spare time. --Jeffrey From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Fri Dec 8 17:45:57 2006 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2006 23:15:57 +0530 Subject: on/off ambassador status (was Re: [Ambassadors] Meeting minutes of the FAD) In-Reply-To: <13dbfe4f0612080938s7955d530u19a97244779d052f@mail.gmail.com> References: <13dbfe4f0612061307m31c73c2fsdcd03f655d92f179@mail.gmail.com> <13dbfe4f0612080831l4e35b387pae3a936cb4b2f413@mail.gmail.com> <45799376.8050304@fedoraproject.org> <13dbfe4f0612080913g1261715ej4c34afefeb5bef47@mail.gmail.com> <4579A1CB.5040102@fedoraproject.org> <13dbfe4f0612080938s7955d530u19a97244779d052f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4579A4D5.3080507@fedoraproject.org> Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: > On 12/8/06, Rahul Sundaram wrote: >> You are misreading what is written in the wiki. Ambassadors are >> volunteers and the conduct is a general set of guidelines. There is >> nothing in the guidelines which can ever prevent anyone from playing the >> role of a ambassadors as and when they want. >> > > " You are Fedora. As an ambassador, you don't just represent yourself, > you represent the Fedora Project. When people think of you, they will > think of the Fedora Project. " > > For someone who is working for another project, it's not appropriate > for their professional image right ? That depends on whether they consider their role as a ambassadors as conflicting with whatever project they are working on. They might have to reconsider being a ambassador in that case. While playing the role of a ambassador, we would all agree that they need to set aside just their personal biases on behalf of the project. What they do outside of the project at home or work is not something we would need to bothered about. Rahul From fbrand at redhat.com Sat Dec 9 00:00:04 2006 From: fbrand at redhat.com (Florian Brand) Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2006 19:00:04 -0500 Subject: on/off ambassador status (was Re: [Ambassadors] Meeting minutes of the FAD) In-Reply-To: <4579A581.6040201@elfshadow.net> References: <13dbfe4f0612061307m31c73c2fsdcd03f655d92f179@mail.gmail.com> <13dbfe4f0612080831l4e35b387pae3a936cb4b2f413@mail.gmail.com> <45799376.8050304@fedoraproject.org> <13dbfe4f0612080913g1261715ej4c34afefeb5bef47@mail.gmail.com> <4579A581.6040201@elfshadow.net> Message-ID: <4579FC84.1040102@redhat.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 > "As an ambassador, you don't just represent yourself, you represent the > Fedora Project. When people think of you, they will think of the Fedora > Project. This means that there are some important rules to follow, and > giving the right impression is important." > > is from the Fedora Ambassador Conduct page in the Wiki. That statement > means to remember when you are in public, representing the Fedora > Project to act appropriately. It then goes on to list specific things > to aware of - none of which would rule out someone working as a > novell/microsoft trainer from being an Ambassador in their spare time. That's why we want a /slight/ rewording. "When people think of __you__, they will think of the Fedora Project." is not appropriate. Of course we know what it means. But for many people the actual text does also matter. How about: "When acting as ambassador, you don't just represent yourself, you represent the Fedora Project. When people think of you, they will think of the Fedora Project. This means that there are some important rules to follow, and giving the right impression is important." Cheers Florian -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFefyEaueqRSbxcMoRAsBsAKCbsp+E88Ho+j0EUXVyDmhx7s93hgCgvLXk QRElDlFZlhHVM3vvZQ+SLDs= =XK8V -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From linux at elfshadow.net Fri Dec 8 17:30:51 2006 From: linux at elfshadow.net (Jeffrey Tadlock) Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2006 12:30:51 -0500 Subject: on/off ambassador status (was Re: [Ambassadors] Meeting minutes of the FAD) In-Reply-To: <13dbfe4f0612080913g1261715ej4c34afefeb5bef47@mail.gmail.com> References: <13dbfe4f0612061307m31c73c2fsdcd03f655d92f179@mail.gmail.com> <13dbfe4f0612080831l4e35b387pae3a936cb4b2f413@mail.gmail.com> <45799376.8050304@fedoraproject.org> <13dbfe4f0612080913g1261715ej4c34afefeb5bef47@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4579A14B.7000609@elfshadow.net> Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: > Some Fedora Supporters and contributors during wiki/FedoraEvents would > like to be Fedora ambassadors only when they are not working for their > company or professional work. > > An example might be: > someone teaching novell/microsoft stuffs to earn money, but during > their spare time they promote Fedora. However they want to be Fedora > ambassadors during their spare time and the wordings in the wiki > prevents them to do so. I don't see what is preventing them from being a Fedora Ambassador. I am sure there are numerous Fedora Ambassadors who might work during the day with a different OS, but still make great Ambassadors when they participate in local LUG events. The part you quoted earlier: "As an ambassador, you don't just represent yourself, you represent the Fedora Project. When people think of you, they will think of the Fedora Project. This means that there are some important rules to follow, and giving the right impression is important." is from the Fedora Ambassador Conduct page in the Wiki. That statement means to remember when you are in public, representing the Fedora Project to act appropriately. It then goes on to list specific things to aware of - none of which would rule out someone working as a novell/microsoft trainer from being an Ambassador in their spare time. --Jeffrey From tchung at fedoraproject.org Fri Dec 8 18:07:05 2006 From: tchung at fedoraproject.org (Thomas Chung) Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 10:07:05 -0800 Subject: [Ambassadors] Ambassadors List only Ambassadors only was (Re: Meeting minutes of the FAD) In-Reply-To: <4579A1EB.1000007@fedoraproject.org> References: <13dbfe4f0612080930v43781645m9315b4a4ff94dde9@mail.gmail.com> <4579A1EB.1000007@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <369bce3b0612081007g5cba9d03iec42c84854460a18@mail.gmail.com> On 12/8/06, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: > > Hello there, > > among those things discussed during the FAD, their was "closing down > > subscription to Fedora Ambassadors list for non Fedora Ambassadors" > > > > We had it in the past and I don't find the mail why now everyone can > > subscribe to the Fedora Ambassadors List ? > > > > This list (ambassadors list) is intended for Fedora Ambassadors > > discussions and preparation for their events. It should be reserved to > > Fedora Ambassadors only (archives can be public). Preparation for an > > event (for fedora) is crucial and should be taken seriously, here > > other fedora ambassadors can discuss things seriously with other > > fedora ambassadors freely and he/she is sure to be able to contact > > that person (due to CLA and stuffs). (At least by e-mail.) At the same > > time, it gives the Fedora Ambassador Project its uniqueness :) > > > > Fedora Marketing Mailing List can be left for anyone to subscribe. > > > > comments/suggestions ? > > This list is still ambassadors only. > > Rahul That's correct. The subscription to fedora-ambassadors-list is still monitored and approved by FAMSco membership service team *after* verifying and completion of membership process. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/MembershipService Regards, -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung From linux at elfshadow.net Fri Dec 8 18:13:07 2006 From: linux at elfshadow.net (Jeffrey Tadlock) Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2006 13:13:07 -0500 Subject: on/off ambassador status (was Re: [Ambassadors] Meeting minutes of the FAD) In-Reply-To: <4579FC84.1040102@redhat.com> References: <13dbfe4f0612061307m31c73c2fsdcd03f655d92f179@mail.gmail.com> <13dbfe4f0612080831l4e35b387pae3a936cb4b2f413@mail.gmail.com> <45799376.8050304@fedoraproject.org> <13dbfe4f0612080913g1261715ej4c34afefeb5bef47@mail.gmail.com> <4579A581.6040201@elfshadow.net> <4579FC84.1040102@redhat.com> Message-ID: <4579AB33.4070009@elfshadow.net> Florian Brand wrote: > That's why we want a /slight/ rewording. > "When people think of __you__, they will think of the Fedora Project." > is not appropriate. > > How about: > "When acting as ambassador, you don't just represent yourself, you > represent the Fedora Project. When people think of you, they will think > of the Fedora Project. This means that there are some important rules to > follow, and giving the right impression is important." That change looks good to me if it helps clear up confusion for people. --Jeffrey From tchung at fedoraproject.org Fri Dec 8 18:34:35 2006 From: tchung at fedoraproject.org (Thomas Chung) Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 10:34:35 -0800 Subject: on/off ambassador status (was Re: [Ambassadors] Meeting minutes of the FAD) In-Reply-To: <4579FC84.1040102@redhat.com> References: <13dbfe4f0612061307m31c73c2fsdcd03f655d92f179@mail.gmail.com> <13dbfe4f0612080831l4e35b387pae3a936cb4b2f413@mail.gmail.com> <45799376.8050304@fedoraproject.org> <13dbfe4f0612080913g1261715ej4c34afefeb5bef47@mail.gmail.com> <4579A581.6040201@elfshadow.net> <4579FC84.1040102@redhat.com> Message-ID: <369bce3b0612081034p5fc833e0s32b9b28d4d90970c@mail.gmail.com> On 12/8/06, Florian Brand wrote: > How about: > > > "When acting as ambassador, you don't just represent yourself, you > represent the Fedora Project. When people think of you, they will think > of the Fedora Project. This means that there are some important rules to > follow, and giving the right impression is important." > Florian, That's fine with me too. Unless there is any objection, please go ahead and make the change. Regards, -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung From linux at elfshadow.net Fri Dec 8 18:49:33 2006 From: linux at elfshadow.net (Jeffrey Tadlock) Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2006 13:49:33 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] FAMSCo was (Re: Meeting minutes of the FAD) In-Reply-To: <13dbfe4f0612080856x59e5b840j94159ab94075f7fc@mail.gmail.com> References: <13dbfe4f0612080856x59e5b840j94159ab94075f7fc@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4579B3BD.5030507@elfshadow.net> Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: > > There was an interesting request for Fedora media by a german > university and this request was approved by the last FAMSCo members, > but unfortunately it wasn't shipped and neither my email to FAMSco > wasn't replied. In the end, we lost a very good opportunity for fedora > marketing and at the same time those who participated were left > behind. Since then ThomasChung is doing a for great job and I > congratulate him for that. > > However, to prevent this next time ... I agree that if an individual was approved for media by FAMSco and they didn't receive it then that is a problem. However, shouldn't we give the current FAMSco group time to "prove" themselves before we declare the process as not working? You've already said Thomas Chung is doing a great job - I think we need to have faith in who the Fedora Ambassadors elected. > we (the FAD attendees) have come > to a "possible" solution which might be, "elect one FAMSco member per > region/continent". This FAMSCo member will be elected from the > ambassadors from his/her region only and as the same time will be > entitled to give priority to the requests of his/her ambassadors. I don't see electing one FAMSco member from each region as solving anything. We want a FAMSco that is active and makes fair decisions on matters that are their responsibility. *Every* media/reimbursement request should be looked at objectively by the entire committee regardless of what country a committee member is from. Looking at the last election there were only eleven nominations. In the end I think the result ended up with a mix of countries - Italy, Belgium, the US and Brazil - even using our current process. Elect people based on their contributions and effort for the Ambassadors, not solely on their country of origin. --Jeffrey From chitlesh at fedoraproject.org Fri Dec 8 19:06:25 2006 From: chitlesh at fedoraproject.org (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 20:06:25 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] FAMSCo was (Re: Meeting minutes of the FAD) In-Reply-To: <4579B3BD.5030507@elfshadow.net> References: <13dbfe4f0612080856x59e5b840j94159ab94075f7fc@mail.gmail.com> <4579B3BD.5030507@elfshadow.net> Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0612081106v68e9772cg35719375f1c23256@mail.gmail.com> On 12/8/06, Jeffrey Tadlock wrote: > I agree that if an individual was approved for media by FAMSco and they > didn't receive it then that is a problem. However, shouldn't we give > the current FAMSco group time to "prove" themselves before we declare > the process as not working? You've already said Thomas Chung is doing a > great job - I think we need to have faith in who the Fedora Ambassadors > elected. Yeah you are right about it. I should have mentioned for the next election. > I don't see electing one FAMSco member from each region as solving > anything. We want a FAMSco that is active and makes fair decisions on > matters that are their responsibility. *Every* media/reimbursement > request should be looked at objectively by the entire committee > regardless of what country a committee member is from. Another precision I missed: Let's say for example there are 5 requests from europe: 2 important and 3 not so important: The famsco member of a region could give priority in terms of more budget/dvds to the big events where many ambassadors will be present. And afterwards the famsco member can present them to the whole FAMSCo > Looking at the last election there were only eleven nominations. In the > end I think the result ended up with a mix of countries - Italy, > Belgium, the US and Brazil - even using our current process. > > Elect people based on their contributions and effort for the > Ambassadors, not solely on their country of origin. Or perhaps add this feature to current famsco ? But I too am for real contribution from ambassadors for FAMSCo chitlesh -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Fri Dec 8 21:09:27 2006 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2006 02:39:27 +0530 Subject: on/off ambassador status (was Re: [Ambassadors] Meeting minutes of the FAD) In-Reply-To: <4579AB33.4070009@elfshadow.net> References: <13dbfe4f0612061307m31c73c2fsdcd03f655d92f179@mail.gmail.com> <13dbfe4f0612080831l4e35b387pae3a936cb4b2f413@mail.gmail.com> <45799376.8050304@fedoraproject.org> <13dbfe4f0612080913g1261715ej4c34afefeb5bef47@mail.gmail.com> <4579A581.6040201@elfshadow.net> <4579FC84.1040102@redhat.com> <4579AB33.4070009@elfshadow.net> Message-ID: <4579D487.1030803@fedoraproject.org> Jeffrey Tadlock wrote: > Florian Brand wrote: >> That's why we want a /slight/ rewording. >> "When people think of __you__, they will think of the Fedora Project." >> is not appropriate. >> >> How about: >> "When acting as ambassador, you don't just represent yourself, you >> represent the Fedora Project. When people think of you, they will think >> of the Fedora Project. This means that there are some important rules to >> follow, and giving the right impression is important." > > That change looks good to me if it helps clear up confusion for people. > > --Jeffrey Agreed. I have added the clarification. Rahul From chitlesh at fedoraproject.org Fri Dec 8 23:58:53 2006 From: chitlesh at fedoraproject.org (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2006 00:58:53 +0100 Subject: on/off ambassador status (was Re: [Ambassadors] Meeting minutes of the FAD) In-Reply-To: <4579D487.1030803@fedoraproject.org> References: <13dbfe4f0612061307m31c73c2fsdcd03f655d92f179@mail.gmail.com> <13dbfe4f0612080831l4e35b387pae3a936cb4b2f413@mail.gmail.com> <45799376.8050304@fedoraproject.org> <13dbfe4f0612080913g1261715ej4c34afefeb5bef47@mail.gmail.com> <4579A581.6040201@elfshadow.net> <4579FC84.1040102@redhat.com> <4579AB33.4070009@elfshadow.net> <4579D487.1030803@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0612081558t7f37bb14ld08b00093395b2ed@mail.gmail.com> On 12/8/06, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Agreed. I have added the clarification. Thanks Rahul :) chitlesh -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com From Bart.De.Soete at fedoraproject.org Sat Dec 9 08:42:32 2006 From: Bart.De.Soete at fedoraproject.org (Bart De Soete) Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2006 09:42:32 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Templates for info-presentations about Fedora Message-ID: <644c0c0b0612090042q1f731b8hf81ad21f3be60016@mail.gmail.com> Hi everybody, I'm planning to give a presentation for a college that's wondering if they would migrate 50% of their PC's to Linux. Are there up to date templates available for giving info-presentations about Fedora? Kind regards, -- Bart De Soete Fedora Ambassador Belgium Bart.De.Soete at fedoraproject.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Regards Francesco Ugolini From chitlesh at fedoraproject.org Sat Dec 9 10:10:04 2006 From: chitlesh at fedoraproject.org (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2006 11:10:04 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Templates for info-presentations about Fedora In-Reply-To: <644c0c0b0612090042q1f731b8hf81ad21f3be60016@mail.gmail.com> References: <644c0c0b0612090042q1f731b8hf81ad21f3be60016@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0612090210u70032d01w59862102c901fa04@mail.gmail.com> On 12/9/06, Bart De Soete wrote: > Hi everybody, > > I'm planning to give a presentation for a college that's wondering if they > would migrate 50% of their PC's to Linux. > Are there up to date templates available for giving info-presentations about > Fedora? > > Kind regards, > Have a look at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Presentations chitleesh -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com From thomas.canniot at laposte.net Sun Dec 10 08:34:26 2006 From: thomas.canniot at laposte.net (Thomas Canniot) Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 09:34:26 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] [Fedora-fr-list] REMINDER French Meeting today 1930 Message-ID: <1165739666.3295.0.camel@fluffy.mrtomlinux> This mail is a reminder for today?s meeting for French ambassadors and interested people. 2006-12-10 / 19:30 UTC IRC: freenode #fedora-mktg-fr Ce mail est un rappel pour la r?union des ambassadeurs francophones, qui aura lieu ce dimanche (10 dec.) ? 20h30 heure de Paris sur IRC (freenode) #fedora-mktg-fr . From Bart.De.Soete at fedoraproject.org Mon Dec 11 08:03:58 2006 From: Bart.De.Soete at fedoraproject.org (Bart De Soete) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 09:03:58 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Issue about the Realtek 8168/8111 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernetcard Message-ID: <644c0c0b0612110003l434199f2q8f9d0b31ffed3e6d@mail.gmail.com> Hi, Since a few days all my pc's are running now on FC 6. However, my most recent laptop (an Acer Aspire 9412) contains a Realtek 8168/8111 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernetcard. This networkcard was not supported in FC 5 and still isn't in FC 6! I did some research on the web and contacted a few people who are having the same problem. Realtek's website provides user with a so called: "linux-driver" in tgz-format, but every user that I contacted received the same errors I received when compiling the driver. On an Italian website, I found an rpm of it, called: dkms-r1000-1.04-1.src.rpm. However, when trying to install the rpm-package I get the error: "cannot installe source packages". (???) Can someone give me advice or something? It's a little bit frustrating, 'cause I was planning my next presentation about Fedora on this laptop. And ofcourse: a laptop with FC 6 with no internetconnection is not done. Kind regards, -- Bart De Soete, Fedora Ambassador Belgium Bart.De.Soete at fedoraproject.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Best Regards Fred On 12/8/06, Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: > > On 12/6/06, Gerold Kassube wrote: > > Everybody should help to have the FOSDEM as the success it has to be! > +1 > > Anyone planning to attend FOSDEM please fill in > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/FOSDEM > > Do let us know what you know and what is missing. > I'm hoping that this wiki page and the ambassadors lists be our ground > for the organisation :) > > chitlesh > -- > http://clunixchit.blogspot.com > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- ----------------------------------------------------- Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com Olpc mailing list olpc-open at laptop.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gerold at lugd.org Mon Dec 11 09:53:12 2006 From: gerold at lugd.org (Gerold Kassube) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 10:53:12 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] [Fwd: Re: Meeting minutes of the FAD] Message-ID: <1165830792.9335.1.camel@Amilo-GK.homenet.local> it seems that Thorsten cann't send directly :-( -------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht -------- > Von: Thorsten Leemhuis > An: Gerold Kassube > Kopie: Fedora-Ambassadors , > Discussions on expanding the Fedora user base > > Betreff: Re: Meeting minutes of the FAD > Datum: Sat, 09 Dec 2006 21:39:27 +0100 > > Hi All! > > Gerold Kassube schrieb: > > the last weekend, we had our first FAD (== Fedora Ambassador Meeting) in > > EMEA. > > We had nice and productive days for the Fedora Ambassador Project and we > > proudly present to you what we have done and dicussed. > > > > All information which we like to announce can be found at > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD/PassedFADs > > I was invited hearty to the FAD, but I could not visit it due to private > matters. But Gerold asked me to look trough the posted docs and give a > short feedback to the list, so here I am: > > "Ambassadors from Red Hat should show more commitment to the Fedora > ambassadors project" -> I agree mostly -- especially in the beginning > and in countries/areas where a local group of Ambassadors is not yet > working properly that's needed until the baby steps are done and a group > has grown up. Yeah, I know, that's often quite some work. BTW, the > german ambassadors seems to be a good example where a bit of Red Hat > involvement helped a lot. > > "dying Fedora Weekly Reports" -- that would be sad, I liked the idea, > the format and the content a lot, but I have no time to help there :-/ . > Why can't we merge fedoranews.org and the weekly reports? That would be > a step in the right direction. Sure, the stuff from fedoranews.org can > write about nvidia, ati or 3rd party add-on repos. But most of the stuff > that written there currently isn't like that and would be fine for > fedoraproject.org afaics. fedoranews.org could continue with reporting > the stuff that is forbidden for fedoraproject.org (as a add-on or > something like that). And ahte weekly reports need to be annouced > properly... > > "Gerold: There should be better communication with leading departments > of different projects to other ambassadors" -- Agreed, we all (Core, > Extras, marketing, ambassadors, ...) don't talk enough with each other. > I think we need a fedora-project mailinglist (or something like that) > where we can discuss such stuff more together. Stuff like > https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-desktop-list/2006-November/msg00039.html > could be discussed there, too. At the same time need to get rid of some > other lists and put some serious thoughts info a > mailinglist-cleanup/reordering. Or morph fedora-maintainers into > fedora-contributors and open it for all fedora-contributors. > > "there should be no global vote for FAMSCo, but vote per region." -> > related, not that important and just FYI: there was the plan in > fedora-extras to get contributors more involved by letting them vote on > important stuff and not only on a committee. But that's just a rough > idea for the long term. http://www.cs.cornell.edu/w8/~andru/civs/ could > be a help there if we don't want to maintain the voting mechanism ourselfs. > > "Ambassadors Mailing List closed to non-ambassadors but archives opened" > -- why not a readonly variant just like FAB uses -- reading the archives > trough the mailman web-interface or by downloading mboxes sucks. > > "Joerg: There was recently press contact demands and german ambassadors > helped." -- we really should have local contacts for the press > documented properly in the wiki as that quite important IMHO. > > CU > thl -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Well, they are not against to the idea but they think it's a pity because all major FOSS events and projects avoid doing something around the time FOSDEM takes place, because they know it's a great event many people like to attend. For my part, I think that if FUDCON is a mean to Fedora developers, ambassadors, etc .. to meet each others and to do presentations and if FUDCON can be hold in the same time than other FOSS events, presentations, etc.. then I am convinced that Fudcon can take place during FOSDEM. Anyway, I am waiting for the FAD decision. Best Regards Fred On 12/11/06, Frederic Hornain wrote: > Dear *, > > FYI, I have sent a request to the FOSDEM Team in order to know if we can > organize a FUDCON during the FOSDEM however I did not receive any reply yet. > Probably due to exams. > > Best Regards > Fred > > On 12/8/06, Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: > > > > On 12/6/06, Gerold Kassube wrote: > > > Everybody should help to have the FOSDEM as the success it has to be! > > +1 > > > > Anyone planning to attend FOSDEM please fill in > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/FOSDEM > > > > Do let us know what you know and what is missing. > > I'm hoping that this wiki page and the ambassadors lists be our ground > > for the organisation :) > > > > chitlesh > > -- > > http://clunixchit.blogspot.com > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > > -- > ----------------------------------------------------- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > Olpc mailing list > olpc-open at laptop.org > -- ----------------------------------------------------- Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com Olpc mailing list olpc-open at laptop.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From roffe.moshe at gmail.com Mon Dec 11 10:36:41 2006 From: roffe.moshe at gmail.com (Moshe Roffe) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 12:36:41 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Issue about the Realtek 8168/8111 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernetcard In-Reply-To: <644c0c0b0612110003l434199f2q8f9d0b31ffed3e6d@mail.gmail.com> References: <644c0c0b0612110003l434199f2q8f9d0b31ffed3e6d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <9895be990612110236i17e499eeu6b4a42a9a46d3ef7@mail.gmail.com> Hi Bart, i thing the problem lies in the removing of the config.h in 2.6.18environment. if you are working on 2.6.18 environment please make sure, that you will comment out or remove all #include lines in source core for kernel modules. they are not needed anymore. all RPM's or tar.gz file that have such a line, will fail the "make". get the source RPMS and patch them or remove this line yourself from the source core, and try to recompile. the problems lies on ALL drivers with ALL vendors that haven't updated their drivers to the recent 2.6.18/19 environment GOOD LUCK, Roffe Moshe, RHCE Israel Fedora Amabassador. On 12/11/06, Bart De Soete wrote: > > Hi, > > Since a few days all my pc's are running now on FC 6. > However, my most recent laptop (an Acer Aspire 9412) contains a Realtek > 8168/8111 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernetcard. > This networkcard was not supported in FC 5 and still isn't in FC 6! > > I did some research on the web and contacted a few people who are having > the same problem. > Realtek's website provides user with a so called: "linux-driver" in > tgz-format, but every user that I contacted received the same errors I > received when compiling the driver. > On an Italian website, I found an rpm of it, called: > dkms-r1000-1.04-1.src.rpm. > However, when trying to install the rpm-package I get the error: "cannot > installe source packages". (???) > > Can someone give me advice or something? > It's a little bit frustrating, 'cause I was planning my next presentation > about Fedora on this laptop. And ofcourse: a laptop with FC 6 with no > internetconnection is not done. > > Kind regards, > > -- > Bart De Soete, > Fedora Ambassador > > Belgium > > Bart.De.Soete at fedoraproject.org > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > -- Moshe Roffe, System&Network Administrator RHCE - 803005755016943 Fedora Ambassador, ISRAEL, Western Asia MATRIX-IT -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From roffe.moshe at gmail.com Mon Dec 11 12:50:46 2006 From: roffe.moshe at gmail.com (Moshe Roffe) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 14:50:46 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Issue about the Realtek 8168/8111 PCI-E In-Reply-To: <644c0c0b0612110428y61dedc42hd97568d650dc7750@mail.gmail.com> References: <644c0c0b0612110428y61dedc42hd97568d650dc7750@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <9895be990612110450r1ae0a2eai9071f1c8c0776204@mail.gmail.com> hi Bart, try typing $su - the minus after the command su gives the environment and the PATH of root, ( a.k.a /usr/sbin, /sbin..). after that, as a full root you can run #depmod -a i am happy that you are successful! tell me if everything went fine. Moshe. On 12/11/06, Bart De Soete wrote: > > Hi Roffe, > > Thanks a lot for your help. > I think I'm almost there. According to the README of Realtek's Driver > Package I need to execute 3 commands: make clean modules, make install, > depmod -a. > For the first time: make clean modules and make install are OK. > However, nothing has changed because I can't execute depmod -a. > > Here is my output: > > [bdesoete at localhost r1000_v1.05]$ su > Wachtwoord: > [root at localhost r1000_v1.05]# make clean modules > make -C src/ clean > make[1]: Map '/home/bdesoete/r1000_v1.05/src' wordt binnengegaan > rm -rf *.o *.ko *~ core* .dep* .*.d .*.cmd *.mod.c *.a *.s .*.flags > .tmp_versions > make[1]: Map '/home/bdesoete/r1000_v1.05/src' wordt verlaten > make -C src/ modules > make[1]: Map '/home/bdesoete/r1000_v1.05/src' wordt binnengegaan > make -C /lib/modules/2.6.18-1.2798.fc6/build > SUBDIRS=/home/bdesoete/r1000_v1.05/src modules > make[2]: Map '/usr/src/kernels/2.6.18- 1.2798.fc6-i586' wordt binnengegaan > CC [M] /home/bdesoete/r1000_v1.05/src/r1000_n.o > CC [M] /home/bdesoete/r1000_v1.05/src/r1000_ioctl.o > LD [M] /home/bdesoete/r1000_v1.05/src/r1000.o > Building modules, stage 2. MODPOST > CC /home/bdesoete/r1000_v1.05/src/r1000.mod.o > LD [M] /home/bdesoete/r1000_v1.05/src/r1000.ko > make[2]: Map '/usr/src/kernels/2.6.18-1.2798.fc6-i586' wordt verlaten > strip --strip-debug r1000.ko > make[1]: Map '/home/bdesoete/r1000_v1.05/src' wordt verlaten > [root at localhost r1000_v1.05]# make install > make -C src/ install > make[1]: Map '/home/bdesoete/r1000_v1.05/src' wordt binnengegaan > install -m 644 -c r1000.ko /lib/modules/2.6.18-1.2798.fc6 > /kernel/drivers/net/ > make[1]: Map '/home/bdesoete/r1000_v1.05/src' wordt verlaten > *[root at localhost r1000_v1.05]# depmod -a > bash: depmod: command not found* > [root at localhost r1000_v1.05]# > > > > Got some adivce?? 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URL: From fbrand at redhat.com Mon Dec 11 22:38:03 2006 From: fbrand at redhat.com (Florian Brand) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 17:38:03 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] FOSDEM - February 2007 - In-Reply-To: <3161376e0612110210n78488bdet973b1c76f2ebce24@mail.gmail.com> References: <3161376e0612060755x2a06bd65hc03080a8b4cbc78b@mail.gmail.com> <1165435767.3328.26.camel@fluffy.mrtomlinux> <1165439866.19905.28.camel@Amilo-GK.homenet.local> <13dbfe4f0612080917n5c675080h32bd3230e5e07a37@mail.gmail.com> <3161376e0612110022h565299c5rf5fe3798a534c351@mail.gmail.com> <3161376e0612110210n78488bdet973b1c76f2ebce24@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <457DDDCB.3070804@redhat.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Frederic Hornain wrote: > Dear *, > > I have received a reply from the FOSDEM TEAM about FUDCON @ FOSDEM. > I have forwarded it to Chitlesh Goorah. > > Well, they are not against to the idea but > they think it's a pity because all major FOSS events and projects avoid > doing something around the time FOSDEM takes place, because they know > it's a great event many people like to attend. A Fudcon subconference will attract additional visitors to the main event. People will attend a couple of FUDCON talks and _also_ talks of the main conference. That synergy is the main point of a FUDCON. the Fudcon should happen within FOSDEM not someplace else. Fudcon is not internal. Anyone can come. Cheers Florian -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFfd3LaueqRSbxcMoRAgznAKCiaVtNlX6equGj/7w2zrjZFCukKgCgilXK yBxsbtmR2gNAaV8ZdzWUsr4= =VPSv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From gdk at redhat.com Mon Dec 11 17:09:04 2006 From: gdk at redhat.com (Greg Dekoenigsberg) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 12:09:04 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Ambassadors] FOSDEM - February 2007 - In-Reply-To: <3161376e0612110210n78488bdet973b1c76f2ebce24@mail.gmail.com> References: <3161376e0612060755x2a06bd65hc03080a8b4cbc78b@mail.gmail.com> <1165435767.3328.26.camel@fluffy.mrtomlinux> <1165439866.19905.28.camel@Amilo-GK.homenet.local> <13dbfe4f0612080917n5c675080h32bd3230e5e07a37@mail.gmail.com> <3161376e0612110022h565299c5rf5fe3798a534c351@mail.gmail.com> <3161376e0612110210n78488bdet973b1c76f2ebce24@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I think that some kind of event at FOSDEM -- whether we call it FUDCON or not -- is crucially important to gather our friends in Europe. --g On Mon, 11 Dec 2006, Frederic Hornain wrote: > Dear *, > > I have received a reply from the FOSDEM TEAM about FUDCON @ FOSDEM. > I have forwarded it to Chitlesh Goorah. > > Well, they are not against to the idea but > they think it's a pity because all major FOSS events and projects avoid > doing something around the time FOSDEM takes place, because they know > it's a great event many people like to attend. > > For my part, I think that if FUDCON is a mean to Fedora developers, > ambassadors, etc .. to meet each others and to do presentations and if > FUDCON can be hold in the same time than other FOSS events, presentations, > etc.. then I am convinced that Fudcon can take place during FOSDEM. > > Anyway, I am waiting for the FAD decision. > > Best Regards > Fred > > On 12/11/06, Frederic Hornain wrote: > >> Dear *, >> >> FYI, I have sent a request to the FOSDEM Team in order to know if we can >> organize a FUDCON during the FOSDEM however I did not receive any reply >> yet. >> Probably due to exams. >> >> Best Regards >> Fred >> >> On 12/8/06, Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: >> > >> > On 12/6/06, Gerold Kassube wrote: >> > > Everybody should help to have the FOSDEM as the success it has to be! >> > +1 >> > >> > Anyone planning to attend FOSDEM please fill in >> > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/FOSDEM >> > >> > Do let us know what you know and what is missing. >> > I'm hoping that this wiki page and the ambassadors lists be our ground >> > for the organisation :) >> > >> > chitlesh >> > -- >> > http://clunixchit.blogspot.com >> > >> > -- >> > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> ----------------------------------------------------- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> Olpc mailing list >> olpc-open at laptop.org >> > > > > -- ------------------------------------------------------------- Greg DeKoenigsberg || Fedora Project || fedoraproject.org Be an Ambassador || http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors ------------------------------------------------------------- From gerold at lugd.org Mon Dec 11 19:07:42 2006 From: gerold at lugd.org (Gerold Kassube) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 20:07:42 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] FOSDEM - February 2007 - In-Reply-To: References: <3161376e0612060755x2a06bd65hc03080a8b4cbc78b@mail.gmail.com> <1165435767.3328.26.camel@fluffy.mrtomlinux> <1165439866.19905.28.camel@Amilo-GK.homenet.local> <13dbfe4f0612080917n5c675080h32bd3230e5e07a37@mail.gmail.com> <3161376e0612110022h565299c5rf5fe3798a534c351@mail.gmail.com> <3161376e0612110210n78488bdet973b1c76f2ebce24@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1165864062.3539.16.camel@Amilo-GK.homenet.local> we, who attend the FAD (where the most Ambassador were at one place) decided how we should have the best effort for Fedora; means which Event in EMEA has the best value for us, the community and the effort for all to hold the "most important" and biggest FEDORA event in 2007. We decided that it should be at FOSDEM because of: - it's a international Event - it's the biggest Open Source event in EMEA because Linuxtag (in Germanyseems dying) - we have an Ambassador there at the place - it's an "central event" ("middle" of Europe) - it's a well known event in the OSS Scene - it's in a RElease cycle and not between a release change between FC6 and FC7 - and we found many other topics why to place "our" event there But if we cann't get any support from the local Ambassador for dealing with FOSDEM and also not from the FOSDEM organisation we should immediatly change our decissions ... Just my five cents Gerold Am Montag, den 11.12.2006, 12:09 -0500 schrieb Greg Dekoenigsberg: > I think that some kind of event at FOSDEM -- whether we call it FUDCON or > not -- is crucially important to gather our friends in Europe. > > --g > > On Mon, 11 Dec 2006, Frederic Hornain wrote: > > > Dear *, > > > > I have received a reply from the FOSDEM TEAM about FUDCON @ FOSDEM. > > I have forwarded it to Chitlesh Goorah. > > > > Well, they are not against to the idea but > > they think it's a pity because all major FOSS events and projects avoid > > doing something around the time FOSDEM takes place, because they know > > it's a great event many people like to attend. > > > > For my part, I think that if FUDCON is a mean to Fedora developers, > > ambassadors, etc .. to meet each others and to do presentations and if > > FUDCON can be hold in the same time than other FOSS events, presentations, > > etc.. then I am convinced that Fudcon can take place during FOSDEM. > > > > Anyway, I am waiting for the FAD decision. > > > > Best Regards > > Fred > > > > On 12/11/06, Frederic Hornain wrote: > > > >> Dear *, > >> > >> FYI, I have sent a request to the FOSDEM Team in order to know if we can > >> organize a FUDCON during the FOSDEM however I did not receive any reply > >> yet. > >> Probably due to exams. > >> > >> Best Regards > >> Fred > >> > >> On 12/8/06, Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: > >> > > >> > On 12/6/06, Gerold Kassube wrote: > >> > > Everybody should help to have the FOSDEM as the success it has to be! > >> > +1 > >> > > >> > Anyone planning to attend FOSDEM please fill in > >> > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/FOSDEM > >> > > >> > Do let us know what you know and what is missing. > >> > I'm hoping that this wiki page and the ambassadors lists be our ground > >> > for the organisation :) > >> > > >> > chitlesh > >> > -- > >> > http://clunixchit.blogspot.com > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > >> > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > >> > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> ----------------------------------------------------- > >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > >> Olpc mailing list > >> olpc-open at laptop.org > >> > > > > > > > > > -- Gerold Kassube -Vorstandsvorsitzender- Linux Usergroup L?rrach e.V. 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Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil URL: From chitlesh at fedoraproject.org Tue Dec 12 17:49:16 2006 From: chitlesh at fedoraproject.org (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 18:49:16 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] FOSDEM - February 2007 - In-Reply-To: <3161376e0612110210n78488bdet973b1c76f2ebce24@mail.gmail.com> References: <3161376e0612060755x2a06bd65hc03080a8b4cbc78b@mail.gmail.com> <1165435767.3328.26.camel@fluffy.mrtomlinux> <1165439866.19905.28.camel@Amilo-GK.homenet.local> <13dbfe4f0612080917n5c675080h32bd3230e5e07a37@mail.gmail.com> <3161376e0612110022h565299c5rf5fe3798a534c351@mail.gmail.com> <3161376e0612110210n78488bdet973b1c76f2ebce24@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0612120949u7518290s83f039bf2c2f96b5@mail.gmail.com> On 12/11/06, Frederic Hornain wrote: > Well, they are not against to the idea but > they think it's a pity because all major FOSS events and projects avoid > doing something around the time FOSDEM takes place, because they know > it's a great event many people like to attend. > > For my part, I think that if FUDCON is a mean to Fedora developers, > ambassadors, etc .. to meet each others and to do presentations and if > FUDCON can be hold in the same time than other FOSS events, presentations, > etc.. then I am convinced that Fudcon can take place during FOSDEM. > > Anyway, I am waiting for the FAD decision. Hello, Since the FOSDEM organizers aren't against with our FUDCon idea, I think we should go through. Frederic could you confirm our FUDCon event to the FOSDEM organizers ? Fedora contributor and user bases are growing day by day in Europe like any other region of the world. The Fedora Project being a true contributor to the FOSS eco-system has attracted lots of european contributors and users among those several play key roles in the Fedora Project. Having a FUDCon at FOSDEM, FOSDEM 2007 will be a crucial meeting place for European Fedora contributors and other high-graded Fedora members around the world. Fudcon is not internal withing the Fedora Project. Anyone can come. A Fudcon subconference will attract additional visitors to the main event. People will attend a couple of FUDCON talks and _also_ talks of the main conference. That synergy is the main point of a FUDCON. So here is where we are, we will be sharing - a devroom with Centos guys ( a request for another room hasn't been replied yet ) - own stand (1x 2m width table in the hall) with Red Hat/JBoss Next step, we should know the man/woman of contact: - from Centos : (for the devroom sharing) Then we can schedule our FUDCon timetable accordingly. - from RedHat/JBoss : (booth sharing) We should know whether Fedora and RedHat will have both enough (equal) space and whether Fedora can have other resources from them. Frederic or anyone, do you have a name for those persons ? regards, Chitlesh -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com From rodrigopadula at projetofedora.org Tue Dec 12 18:27:13 2006 From: rodrigopadula at projetofedora.org (Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 16:27:13 -0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Linux+ Magazine - Special Edition - Fedora Core 6 Message-ID: <457EF481.8020001@projetofedora.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Special Edition - Fedora Core 6 Know-How http://www.lpmagazine.org/en/linuxplus/issues/1_2007.html ASS: Rodrigo Padula Brazilian Fedora Project -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFFfvSBPg3HAC1vlg4RAtg/AJ4nIjvIk8P0lnt1w3N2g1wZ862D1QCfS+3q hT7O+Ad7AkkNGRH2SH1qCKk= =if1M -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From chitlesh at fedoraproject.org Tue Dec 12 19:31:53 2006 From: chitlesh at fedoraproject.org (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 20:31:53 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] FOSDEM - February 2007 - In-Reply-To: <13dbfe4f0612120949u7518290s83f039bf2c2f96b5@mail.gmail.com> References: <3161376e0612060755x2a06bd65hc03080a8b4cbc78b@mail.gmail.com> <1165435767.3328.26.camel@fluffy.mrtomlinux> <1165439866.19905.28.camel@Amilo-GK.homenet.local> <13dbfe4f0612080917n5c675080h32bd3230e5e07a37@mail.gmail.com> <3161376e0612110022h565299c5rf5fe3798a534c351@mail.gmail.com> <3161376e0612110210n78488bdet973b1c76f2ebce24@mail.gmail.com> <13dbfe4f0612120949u7518290s83f039bf2c2f96b5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0612121131x6511cd74mdf4b05b3cd1deb54@mail.gmail.com> > So here is where we are, we will be sharing > - a devroom with Centos guys ( a request for another room hasn't been > replied yet ) > - own stand (1x 2m width table in the hall) with Red Hat/JBoss > > Next step, we should know the man/woman of contact: > - from Centos : (for the devroom sharing) > Then we can schedule our FUDCon timetable accordingly. > - from RedHat/JBoss : (booth sharing) > We should know whether Fedora and RedHat will have both enough > (equal) space and whether Fedora can have other resources from them. > > Frederic or anyone, do you have a name for those persons ? > + * Is there any sort of schedule in which we will have a room to give some talks about Fedora? Past conferences that I have been to have had the show floor, and then also the separate room for sessions. I see that we have a devroom that we share with CentOS -- will we able to advertise and give some some talks about Fedora in that room? (MaxSpevack) This is what we are looking forward. Once we got the names of contact, I'll contact those centos guys and schedule a timetable for Fedora talks. By the way, who is willing to talk and about what ? - MaxSpevack - and ?? chitlesh -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com From fhornain at gmail.com Wed Dec 13 14:14:32 2006 From: fhornain at gmail.com (Frederic Hornain) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 15:14:32 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] FOSDEM - February 2007 - In-Reply-To: <13dbfe4f0612121131x6511cd74mdf4b05b3cd1deb54@mail.gmail.com> References: <3161376e0612060755x2a06bd65hc03080a8b4cbc78b@mail.gmail.com> <1165435767.3328.26.camel@fluffy.mrtomlinux> <1165439866.19905.28.camel@Amilo-GK.homenet.local> <13dbfe4f0612080917n5c675080h32bd3230e5e07a37@mail.gmail.com> <3161376e0612110022h565299c5rf5fe3798a534c351@mail.gmail.com> <3161376e0612110210n78488bdet973b1c76f2ebce24@mail.gmail.com> <13dbfe4f0612120949u7518290s83f039bf2c2f96b5@mail.gmail.com> <13dbfe4f0612121131x6511cd74mdf4b05b3cd1deb54@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <3161376e0612130614i6263c0aeg247172657adb3c20@mail.gmail.com> Dear *, > Frederic could you confirm our FUDCon event to the FOSDEM organizers ? Done but not reaction from FOSDEM yet. > - a devroom with Centos guys ( a request for another room hasn't been replied yet ) Sorry guys but all developer rooms are taken. Room Capacity Assignment H2215 288 *lightning talks* H1301 200 KDE H1302 200 GNOME H1308 150 openSUSE H1309 150 Mozilla H2213 100 GNU Classpath H2214 100 CentOS + Fedora Lameere (U) 500 LPI AW1.105 48 Jabber AW1.115 31 OpenGroupware + GNUstep AW1.117 31 Python AW1.120 74 Research Room AW1.121 81 X.org AW1.124 59 Gentoo AW1.125 76 Debian AW1.126 72 Embedded Software Development I have contacted the guys from CentOs in order to be in accordance with their planning. I am waiting after theirs replies. >We should know whether Fedora and RedHat will have both enough >(equal) space and whether Fedora can have other resources from them. FYI, the booth have been reserved to Fedora and not Red Hat. Cause I am not Red Hat, not yet anyway. I register only for Fedora. However as Red Hat was not present last year and as SUSE and Debian were there, and as I did not know if they wanted to come I suggested them that it could be intersting for them to be there. They agreed but at that all booths were taken so I found intersting to invite them to share our booth as well as JBoss. So we have to divide our both by two, so Fedora both is 1 meter. I know it is not so much but I could not guess a such interest. You see what I mean. Last year, we were only two. > Frederic or anyone, do you have a name for those persons ? Yes, I have got names but I have to talk about it with them before to communicate you their name. I am sure you can understand. > Is there any sort of schedule in which we will have a room to give some talks about Fedora? I am working on it. I am going to communicate planning suggestions when Fedora could make presentation during the event. > I see that we have a devroom that we share with CentOS -- will we able to advertise and give some some talks about Fedora in that room? Yes of course, Fedora can give some talks about Fedora in that room. We have reserved it for that. One thing again, concerning Tee-Shirts, DVDs and other gadgets, could it possible to bring 100 of each one more cause during the rest of the year I distribute it to people during event other than FOSDEM. Thanks a lot. I am going to sumbit it to the Fedora Ambassadors Get Stuff. Best Regards Fred On 12/12/06, Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: > > > So here is where we are, we will be sharing > > - a devroom with Centos guys ( a request for another room hasn't been > > replied yet ) > > - own stand (1x 2m width table in the hall) with Red Hat/JBoss > > > > Next step, we should know the man/woman of contact: > > - from Centos : (for the devroom sharing) > > Then we can schedule our FUDCon timetable accordingly. > > - from RedHat/JBoss : (booth sharing) > > We should know whether Fedora and RedHat will have both enough > > (equal) space and whether Fedora can have other resources from them. > > > > Frederic or anyone, do you have a name for those persons ? > > > > + * Is there any sort of schedule in which we will have a room to > give some talks about Fedora? Past conferences that I have been to > have had the show floor, and then also the separate room for sessions. > I see that we have a devroom that we share with CentOS -- will we > able to advertise and give some some talks about Fedora in that room? > (MaxSpevack) > > This is what we are looking forward. > Once we got the names of contact, I'll contact those centos guys and > schedule a timetable for Fedora talks. > > By the way, who is willing to talk and about what ? > - MaxSpevack > - and ?? > > > chitlesh > -- > http://clunixchit.blogspot.com > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- ----------------------------------------------------- Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com Olpc mailing list olpc-open at laptop.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fhornain at gmail.com Wed Dec 13 14:19:12 2006 From: fhornain at gmail.com (Frederic Hornain) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 15:19:12 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] FOSDEM - February 2007 - In-Reply-To: <3161376e0612130614i6263c0aeg247172657adb3c20@mail.gmail.com> References: <3161376e0612060755x2a06bd65hc03080a8b4cbc78b@mail.gmail.com> <1165435767.3328.26.camel@fluffy.mrtomlinux> <1165439866.19905.28.camel@Amilo-GK.homenet.local> <13dbfe4f0612080917n5c675080h32bd3230e5e07a37@mail.gmail.com> <3161376e0612110022h565299c5rf5fe3798a534c351@mail.gmail.com> <3161376e0612110210n78488bdet973b1c76f2ebce24@mail.gmail.com> <13dbfe4f0612120949u7518290s83f039bf2c2f96b5@mail.gmail.com> <13dbfe4f0612121131x6511cd74mdf4b05b3cd1deb54@mail.gmail.com> <3161376e0612130614i6263c0aeg247172657adb3c20@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <3161376e0612130619x4061304flbfbbbd1e84e6be5@mail.gmail.com> Dear *, One thing again, Obviously the Fedora presentations schedule will be advertised by the FOSDEM. Best Redgards Fred On 12/13/06, Frederic Hornain wrote: > > Dear *, > > > Frederic could you confirm our FUDCon event to the FOSDEM organizers ? > Done but not reaction from FOSDEM yet. > > > - a devroom with Centos guys ( a request for another room hasn't been > replied yet ) > Sorry guys but all developer rooms are taken. > > Room Capacity Assignment H2215 288 *lightning talks* H1301 200 KDE > H1302 200 GNOME H1308 150 openSUSE > H1309 150 Mozilla H2213 100 GNU Classpath > H2214 100 CentOS + Fedora Lameere > (U) 500 LPI AW1.105 48 Jabber > AW1.115 31 OpenGroupware + GNUstep > AW1.117 31 Python AW1.120 74 Research Room > AW1.121 81 X.org AW1.124 59 Gentoo > AW1.125 76 Debian AW1.126 72 Embedded Software > Development > > I have contacted the guys from CentOs in order to be in accordance with > their planning. > I am waiting after theirs replies. > > >We should know whether Fedora and RedHat will have both enough > >(equal) space and whether Fedora can have other resources from them. > FYI, the booth have been reserved to Fedora and not Red Hat. > Cause I am not Red Hat, not yet anyway. I register only for Fedora. > However as Red Hat was not present last year and as SUSE and Debian were > there, > and as I did not know if they wanted to come I suggested them that it > could be intersting for them to be there. They agreed but at that all booths > were taken so I found intersting to invite them to share our booth as well > as JBoss. > > So we have to divide our both by two, so Fedora both is 1 meter. I know it > is not so much but I could not guess a such interest. You see what I mean. > Last year, we were only two. > > > Frederic or anyone, do you have a name for those persons ? > Yes, I have got names but I have to talk about it with them before to > communicate you their name. > I am sure you can understand. > > > Is there any sort of schedule in which we will have a room to give some > talks about Fedora? > I am working on it. > I am going to communicate planning suggestions when Fedora could make > presentation during the event. > > > I see that we have a devroom that we share with CentOS -- will we able > to advertise and give some some talks about Fedora in that room? > Yes of course, Fedora can give some talks about Fedora in that room. We > have reserved it for that. > > One thing again, concerning Tee-Shirts, DVDs and other gadgets, could it > possible to bring 100 of each one more cause during the rest of the year I > distribute it to people during event other than FOSDEM. Thanks a lot. I am > going to sumbit it to the Fedora Ambassadors Get Stuff. > > Best Regards > Fred > > > > > > > > On 12/12/06, Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: > > > > > So here is where we are, we will be sharing > > > - a devroom with Centos guys ( a request for another room hasn't been > > > replied yet ) > > > - own stand (1x 2m width table in the hall) with Red Hat/JBoss > > > > > > Next step, we should know the man/woman of contact: > > > - from Centos : (for the devroom sharing) > > > Then we can schedule our FUDCon timetable accordingly. > > > - from RedHat/JBoss : (booth sharing) > > > We should know whether Fedora and RedHat will have both enough > > > (equal) space and whether Fedora can have other resources from them. > > > > > > Frederic or anyone, do you have a name for those persons ? > > > > > > > + * Is there any sort of schedule in which we will have a room to > > give some talks about Fedora? Past conferences that I have been to > > have had the show floor, and then also the separate room for sessions. > > I see that we have a devroom that we share with CentOS -- will we > > able to advertise and give some some talks about Fedora in that room? > > (MaxSpevack) > > > > This is what we are looking forward. > > Once we got the names of contact, I'll contact those centos guys and > > schedule a timetable for Fedora talks. > > > > By the way, who is willing to talk and about what ? > > - MaxSpevack > > - and ?? > > > > > > chitlesh > > -- > > http://clunixchit.blogspot.com > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > > -- > ----------------------------------------------------- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > Olpc mailing list > olpc-open at laptop.org > -- ----------------------------------------------------- Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com Olpc mailing list olpc-open at laptop.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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We have committed an initial quote of 100 DVDs for December. We are about to launch an official announcement as soon we get the web interface for it. Meanwhile, we have scheduled to use 50 DVS + the Fedora Venezuela banner for the ExpoTecnologica 2006 (event) in Maracaibo. Unfortunately i cant attend to the event but there will people committed from the fedora community to attend the visitors in the booth. kr -- Gomix Guillermo G?mez S. cms fedora-ve http://www.fedora-ve.org blog http://blog.gomix.org soporte fedora-ve en irc.freenode.net, canal fedora-ve lista email fedora-ve at googlegroups.com Key fingerprint = 3143 8BDB 48A2 3241 E62A B743 D177 CAD7 3205 A464 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Thank you Guillermo, Please let me know when the site is up-and-runing. I'll link it from Fedora Free Media Program. Regards, -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung From guillermo.gomez at gmail.com Thu Dec 14 01:15:41 2006 From: guillermo.gomez at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?Ikd1aWxsZXJtbyBHw7NtZXogUy4i?=) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 21:15:41 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] fedoraproject.org email address pls Message-ID: <4580A5BD.2070100@gmail.com> Hi I would like to have an email address at fedoraproject.og (guillermo.gomez at fedoraproject.org) so i can avoid using my personal one. Thanks in advance. kr -- Gomix Guillermo G?mez S. cms fedora-ve http://www.fedora-ve.org blog http://blog.gomix.org soporte fedora-ve en irc.freenode.net, canal fedora-ve lista email fedora-ve at googlegroups.com Key fingerprint = 3143 8BDB 48A2 3241 E62A B743 D177 CAD7 3205 A464 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Sun: First hour -> Fedora Second hour -> CentOS Third hour -> Fedora ... Tell me what you think about it. Best Regards Fred On 12/13/06, Frederic Hornain wrote: > > Dear *, > > One thing again, Obviously the Fedora presentations schedule will be > advertised by the FOSDEM. > > Best Redgards > Fred > > > > On 12/13/06, Frederic Hornain wrote: > > > > Dear *, > > > > > Frederic could you confirm our FUDCon event to the FOSDEM organizers ? > > Done but not reaction from FOSDEM yet. > > > > > - a devroom with Centos guys ( a request for another room hasn't been > > replied yet ) > > Sorry guys but all developer rooms are taken. > > > > Room Capacity Assignment H2215 288 *lightning talks* H1301 200 KDE > > H1302 200 GNOME H1308 150 openSUSE > > H1309 150 Mozilla H2213 100 GNU Classpath > > H2214 100 CentOS + Fedora Lameere > > (U) 500 LPI AW1.105 48 Jabber > > AW1.115 31 OpenGroupware + GNUstep > > AW1.117 31 Python AW1.120 74 Research Room > > AW1.121 81 X.org AW1.124 59 Gentoo > > AW1.125 76 Debian AW1.126 72 Embedded Software > > Development > > > > I have contacted the guys from CentOs in order to be in accordance with > > their planning. > > I am waiting after theirs replies. > > > > >We should know whether Fedora and RedHat will have both enough > > >(equal) space and whether Fedora can have other resources from them. > > FYI, the booth have been reserved to Fedora and not Red Hat. > > Cause I am not Red Hat, not yet anyway. I register only for Fedora. > > However as Red Hat was not present last year and as SUSE and Debian were > > there, > > and as I did not know if they wanted to come I suggested them that it > > could be intersting for them to be there. They agreed but at that all booths > > were taken so I found intersting to invite them to share our booth as well > > as JBoss. > > > > So we have to divide our both by two, so Fedora both is 1 meter. I know > > it is not so much but I could not guess a such interest. You see what I > > mean. Last year, we were only two. > > > > > Frederic or anyone, do you have a name for those persons ? > > Yes, I have got names but I have to talk about it with them before to > > communicate you their name. > > I am sure you can understand. > > > > > Is there any sort of schedule in which we will have a room to give > > some talks about Fedora? > > I am working on it. > > I am going to communicate planning suggestions when Fedora could make > > presentation during the event. > > > > > I see that we have a devroom that we share with CentOS -- will we able > > to advertise and give some some talks about Fedora in that room? > > Yes of course, Fedora can give some talks about Fedora in that room. We > > have reserved it for that. > > > > One thing again, concerning Tee-Shirts, DVDs and other gadgets, could it > > possible to bring 100 of each one more cause during the rest of the year I > > distribute it to people during event other than FOSDEM. Thanks a lot. I am > > going to sumbit it to the Fedora Ambassadors Get Stuff. > > > > Best Regards > > Fred > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 12/12/06, Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: > > > > > > > So here is where we are, we will be sharing > > > > - a devroom with Centos guys ( a request for another room hasn't > > > been > > > > replied yet ) > > > > - own stand (1x 2m width table in the hall) with Red Hat/JBoss > > > > > > > > Next step, we should know the man/woman of contact: > > > > - from Centos : (for the devroom sharing) > > > > Then we can schedule our FUDCon timetable accordingly. > > > > - from RedHat/JBoss : (booth sharing) > > > > We should know whether Fedora and RedHat will have both enough > > > > (equal) space and whether Fedora can have other resources from them. > > > > > > > > Frederic or anyone, do you have a name for those persons ? > > > > > > > > > > + * Is there any sort of schedule in which we will have a room to > > > give some talks about Fedora? Past conferences that I have been to > > > have had the show floor, and then also the separate room for sessions. > > > > > > I see that we have a devroom that we share with CentOS -- will we > > > able to advertise and give some some talks about Fedora in that room? > > > (MaxSpevack) > > > > > > This is what we are looking forward. > > > Once we got the names of contact, I'll contact those centos guys and > > > schedule a timetable for Fedora talks. > > > > > > By the way, who is willing to talk and about what ? > > > - MaxSpevack > > > - and ?? > > > > > > > > > chitlesh > > > -- > > > http://clunixchit.blogspot.com > > > > > > -- > > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > ----------------------------------------------------- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > Olpc mailing list > > olpc-open at laptop.org > > > > > > -- > ----------------------------------------------------- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > Olpc mailing list > olpc-open at laptop.org > -- ----------------------------------------------------- Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com Olpc mailing list olpc-open at laptop.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From chitlesh at fedoraproject.org Thu Dec 14 10:32:16 2006 From: chitlesh at fedoraproject.org (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 11:32:16 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] FOSDEM - February 2007 - In-Reply-To: <3161376e0612140022o427f85fr5f14375dcb1088d1@mail.gmail.com> References: <3161376e0612060755x2a06bd65hc03080a8b4cbc78b@mail.gmail.com> <1165439866.19905.28.camel@Amilo-GK.homenet.local> <13dbfe4f0612080917n5c675080h32bd3230e5e07a37@mail.gmail.com> <3161376e0612110022h565299c5rf5fe3798a534c351@mail.gmail.com> <3161376e0612110210n78488bdet973b1c76f2ebce24@mail.gmail.com> <13dbfe4f0612120949u7518290s83f039bf2c2f96b5@mail.gmail.com> <13dbfe4f0612121131x6511cd74mdf4b05b3cd1deb54@mail.gmail.com> <3161376e0612130614i6263c0aeg247172657adb3c20@mail.gmail.com> <3161376e0612130619x4061304flbfbbbd1e84e6be5@mail.gmail.com> <3161376e0612140022o427f85fr5f14375dcb1088d1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0612140232o47c0dc94q9c0d2a2be038f2b6@mail.gmail.com> On 12/14/06, Frederic Hornain wrote: I've created a google calender to get things planned smoothly: http://www.google.com/calendar/embed?src=49gm27tesbfoc3ninonm33chcs%40group.calendar.google.com&dates=20070201%2F20070301 FredericHornain you have the right to modify that agenda even add anyone you would like to. Perhaps we could invite centos guys to schedule their agenda on the same agenda. Could you propose them ? However anyone from the fedora community who was to have edit access on that calender, jjust ask :), Ill add you as soon as possible > > Sat: > First hour -> CentOS > Second hour -> Fedora > Third hour -> CentOS > ... Ok, I'm good with it, : 14:00 - 15:00 centos 15:00 - 16:00 fedora 16:00 - 17:00 centos 17:00 - 18:00 fedora > Sun: > First hour -> Fedora > Second hour -> CentOS > Third hour -> Fedora > ... > For sunday, I would say 09:30 to 13:30 centos 13:30 to 17:30 fedora that would give us more time together, so is for centos guys. chitlesh -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com From fbrand at redhat.com Thu Dec 14 12:41:43 2006 From: fbrand at redhat.com (Florian Brand) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 13:41:43 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] FOSDEM - February 2007 - In-Reply-To: <13dbfe4f0612140232o47c0dc94q9c0d2a2be038f2b6@mail.gmail.com> References: <3161376e0612060755x2a06bd65hc03080a8b4cbc78b@mail.gmail.com> <1165439866.19905.28.camel@Amilo-GK.homenet.local> <13dbfe4f0612080917n5c675080h32bd3230e5e07a37@mail.gmail.com> <3161376e0612110022h565299c5rf5fe3798a534c351@mail.gmail.com> <3161376e0612110210n78488bdet973b1c76f2ebce24@mail.gmail.com> <13dbfe4f0612120949u7518290s83f039bf2c2f96b5@mail.gmail.com> <13dbfe4f0612121131x6511cd74mdf4b05b3cd1deb54@mail.gmail.com> <3161376e0612130614i6263c0aeg247172657adb3c20@mail.gmail.com> <3161376e0612130619x4061304flbfbbbd1e84e6be5@mail.gmail.com> <3161376e0612140022o427f85fr5f14375dcb1088d1@mail.gmail.com> <13dbfe4f0612140232o47c0dc94q9c0d2a2be038f2b6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <45814687.2080509@redhat.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi, What do we/Centos want to do in the time? If it is presentations, intended for visitors of FOSDEM why don't we combine our forces and have _one_ subconference. CentOS is part of the Fedora Family after all. For internal meetings we could organize some private hours as well. Most of the internal stuff we can also discuss over a beer :) Cheers Florian Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: > On 12/14/06, Frederic Hornain wrote: > > I've created a google calender to get things planned smoothly: > http://www.google.com/calendar/embed?src=49gm27tesbfoc3ninonm33chcs%40group.calendar.google.com&dates=20070201%2F20070301 > > > FredericHornain you have the right to modify that agenda even add > anyone you would like to. Perhaps we could invite centos guys to > schedule their agenda on the same agenda. Could you propose them ? > > However anyone from the fedora community who was to have edit access > on that calender, jjust ask :), Ill add you as soon as possible > >> >> Sat: >> First hour -> CentOS >> Second hour -> Fedora >> Third hour -> CentOS >> ... > > Ok, I'm good with it, : > 14:00 - 15:00 centos > 15:00 - 16:00 fedora > 16:00 - 17:00 centos > 17:00 - 18:00 fedora > >> Sun: >> First hour -> Fedora >> Second hour -> CentOS >> Third hour -> Fedora >> ... >> > > For sunday, I would say > 09:30 to 13:30 centos > 13:30 to 17:30 fedora > > that would give us more time together, so is for centos guys. > > chitlesh -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFgUaHaueqRSbxcMoRAmX9AJ0YxQ3kt6iPgtOaPruF59hhk6gScgCggwYn xwtzPcov6BSeE1Rj4+WcQw0= =LTn7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From chitlesh at fedoraproject.org Thu Dec 14 13:21:07 2006 From: chitlesh at fedoraproject.org (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 14:21:07 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] FOSDEM - February 2007 - In-Reply-To: <45814687.2080509@redhat.com> References: <3161376e0612060755x2a06bd65hc03080a8b4cbc78b@mail.gmail.com> <3161376e0612110022h565299c5rf5fe3798a534c351@mail.gmail.com> <3161376e0612110210n78488bdet973b1c76f2ebce24@mail.gmail.com> <13dbfe4f0612120949u7518290s83f039bf2c2f96b5@mail.gmail.com> <13dbfe4f0612121131x6511cd74mdf4b05b3cd1deb54@mail.gmail.com> <3161376e0612130614i6263c0aeg247172657adb3c20@mail.gmail.com> <3161376e0612130619x4061304flbfbbbd1e84e6be5@mail.gmail.com> <3161376e0612140022o427f85fr5f14375dcb1088d1@mail.gmail.com> <13dbfe4f0612140232o47c0dc94q9c0d2a2be038f2b6@mail.gmail.com> <45814687.2080509@redhat.com> Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0612140521h7eedb388q9542be2bcb2a8bc8@mail.gmail.com> On 12/14/06, Florian Brand wrote: > > What do we/Centos want to do in the time? If it is presentations, > intended for visitors of FOSDEM why don't we combine our forces and have > _one_ subconference. CentOS is part of the Fedora Family after all. > For internal meetings we could organize some private hours as well. > Most of the internal stuff we can also discuss over a beer :) > > Cheers > Florian +1 FredericHornain and I will propose them. chitlesh -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com From tchung at fedoraproject.org Thu Dec 14 18:02:44 2006 From: tchung at fedoraproject.org (Thomas Chung) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 10:02:44 -0800 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Ambasssadors Meeting at 2006-12-14 22:00 UTC Message-ID: <369bce3b0612141002yaffd6e7q58d1894e457e82ab@mail.gmail.com> We'll have a Fedora Ambassadors Meeting at 2006-12-14 22:00 UTC Please check your local time and plan to attend with your agenda. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings Regards, -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung From francesco.ugolini at fedoraproject.org Thu Dec 14 20:23:35 2006 From: francesco.ugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 21:23:35 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Ambasssadors Meeting at 2006-12-14 22:00 UTC In-Reply-To: <369bce3b0612141002yaffd6e7q58d1894e457e82ab@mail.gmail.com> References: <369bce3b0612141002yaffd6e7q58d1894e457e82ab@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4581B2C7.3070004@fedoraproject.org> Thomas Chung ha scritto: > We'll have a Fedora Ambassadors Meeting at 2006-12-14 22:00 UTC > Please check your local time and plan to attend with your agenda. > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings > Regards, Sorry but i can't attend becuase i've to waked up at 5 pm utc+1. Regards Francesco Ugolini From holger-doerner at gmx.de Fri Dec 15 05:21:44 2006 From: holger-doerner at gmx.de (Holger =?ISO-8859-1?Q?D=F6rner?=) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 06:21:44 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Ambasssadors Meeting at 2006-12-14 22:00 UTC In-Reply-To: <369bce3b0612141002yaffd6e7q58d1894e457e82ab@mail.gmail.com> References: <369bce3b0612141002yaffd6e7q58d1894e457e82ab@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1166160104.2958.3.camel@bastard001.bofh.de> Am Donnerstag, den 14.12.2006, 10:02 -0800 schrieb Thomas Chung: > We'll have a Fedora Ambassadors Meeting at 2006-12-14 22:00 UTC > Please check your local time and plan to attend with your agenda. > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings > Regards, I'm sorry that I missed the meeting because I wasn't at home yesterday (came home deep at night). Next time i will be there for sure. Regards, Holger Doerner -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From tchung at fedoraproject.org Fri Dec 15 18:37:09 2006 From: tchung at fedoraproject.org (Thomas Chung) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 10:37:09 -0800 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Free Media Program - December List Message-ID: <369bce3b0612151037o4457ed4ay3461080489bfc170@mail.gmail.com> All, This is a gentle reminder that we still have 135 un-fulfilled requests in our December queue. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution/FreeMedia/FC6DVD/December Please consider accepting at least 1 or 2 requests to complete the list. Yes, you *can* accept requests from other countries as well as your country. If you're a SponsoredMedia vendor, please check if we have any more credit to sponsor or consider donating your media to Fedora Free Media Program. My offer for a Fedora T-Shirt if you accept 5 requests is still valid until December 31st. Regards, -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung From thomas.canniot at laposte.net Sun Dec 17 07:47:35 2006 From: thomas.canniot at laposte.net (Thomas Canniot) Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 08:47:35 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] [Fedora-fr-list] REMINDER French Meeting today 1930 Message-ID: <1166341655.3311.2.camel@fluffy.mrtomlinux> This mail is a reminder for today?s meeting for French ambassadors and interested people. It will be the last meeting of the 2006 year ! 2006-12-17 / 19:30 UTC IRC: freenode #fedora-mktg-fr Ce mail est un rappel pour la r?union des ambassadeurs francophones, qui aura lieu ce dimanche (17 dec.) ? 20h30 heure de Paris sur IRC (freenode) #fedora-mktg-fr . Il s'agit de la derni?re r?union de l'ann?e 2006 ! From chitlesh at fedoraproject.org Sun Dec 17 11:35:08 2006 From: chitlesh at fedoraproject.org (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 12:35:08 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] FOSDEM - February 2007 - In-Reply-To: <13dbfe4f0612140521h7eedb388q9542be2bcb2a8bc8@mail.gmail.com> References: <3161376e0612060755x2a06bd65hc03080a8b4cbc78b@mail.gmail.com> <3161376e0612110210n78488bdet973b1c76f2ebce24@mail.gmail.com> <13dbfe4f0612120949u7518290s83f039bf2c2f96b5@mail.gmail.com> <13dbfe4f0612121131x6511cd74mdf4b05b3cd1deb54@mail.gmail.com> <3161376e0612130614i6263c0aeg247172657adb3c20@mail.gmail.com> <3161376e0612130619x4061304flbfbbbd1e84e6be5@mail.gmail.com> <3161376e0612140022o427f85fr5f14375dcb1088d1@mail.gmail.com> <13dbfe4f0612140232o47c0dc94q9c0d2a2be038f2b6@mail.gmail.com> <45814687.2080509@redhat.com> <13dbfe4f0612140521h7eedb388q9542be2bcb2a8bc8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0612170335s60551712w7cec1749648ec95c@mail.gmail.com> Hello there, This is a "who will speak" call for FOSDEM2007: For those who are willing to talk: please fill the following items on the wiki: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/FOSDEM2007 - the name(s) of the speaker(s) - a few words about the speaker(s), can even be a full bio (*) - a photo of the speaker - one or more URLs about the topic This will help us schedule the devroom with centos. Chitlesh -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com From chitlesh at fedoraproject.org Sun Dec 17 12:30:40 2006 From: chitlesh at fedoraproject.org (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 13:30:40 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] FOSDEM - February 2007 - In-Reply-To: <13dbfe4f0612170335s60551712w7cec1749648ec95c@mail.gmail.com> References: <3161376e0612060755x2a06bd65hc03080a8b4cbc78b@mail.gmail.com> <13dbfe4f0612120949u7518290s83f039bf2c2f96b5@mail.gmail.com> <13dbfe4f0612121131x6511cd74mdf4b05b3cd1deb54@mail.gmail.com> <3161376e0612130614i6263c0aeg247172657adb3c20@mail.gmail.com> <3161376e0612130619x4061304flbfbbbd1e84e6be5@mail.gmail.com> <3161376e0612140022o427f85fr5f14375dcb1088d1@mail.gmail.com> <13dbfe4f0612140232o47c0dc94q9c0d2a2be038f2b6@mail.gmail.com> <45814687.2080509@redhat.com> <13dbfe4f0612140521h7eedb388q9542be2bcb2a8bc8@mail.gmail.com> <13dbfe4f0612170335s60551712w7cec1749648ec95c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0612170430j4715b5efn58890330877eba3c@mail.gmail.com> Some other updates from FOSDEM: * There will be a social FOSDEM party, The "beer event", however the date/place will be communicated soon. * Assurance for materials: The official mail hasn't yet sent, but it's the same as last year: for every device you bring along and that you want to be covered by their insurance, you must send us the following data: - - vendor/model - - the type of device (notebook, switch, ...) - - serial number or other unique identifier that is visible on the device - - estimation of its current value, in EUR Deadline is still to be determined, but It would be 2 weeks before the event. Chitlesh -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com From chitlesh at fedoraproject.org Sun Dec 17 13:16:08 2006 From: chitlesh at fedoraproject.org (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 14:16:08 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] FOSDEM - February 2007 - In-Reply-To: <13dbfe4f0612170430j4715b5efn58890330877eba3c@mail.gmail.com> References: <3161376e0612060755x2a06bd65hc03080a8b4cbc78b@mail.gmail.com> <13dbfe4f0612121131x6511cd74mdf4b05b3cd1deb54@mail.gmail.com> <3161376e0612130614i6263c0aeg247172657adb3c20@mail.gmail.com> <3161376e0612130619x4061304flbfbbbd1e84e6be5@mail.gmail.com> <3161376e0612140022o427f85fr5f14375dcb1088d1@mail.gmail.com> <13dbfe4f0612140232o47c0dc94q9c0d2a2be038f2b6@mail.gmail.com> <45814687.2080509@redhat.com> <13dbfe4f0612140521h7eedb388q9542be2bcb2a8bc8@mail.gmail.com> <13dbfe4f0612170335s60551712w7cec1749648ec95c@mail.gmail.com> <13dbfe4f0612170430j4715b5efn58890330877eba3c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0612170516wb58d750iba3418b03566e0ab@mail.gmail.com> On 12/17/06, Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: > * There will be a social FOSDEM party, The "beer event", however the > date/place will be communicated soon. When and where listed in http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/FOSDEM2007 chitlesh -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com From samfw at redhat.com Mon Dec 18 12:32:58 2006 From: samfw at redhat.com (Sam Folk-Williams) Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 07:32:58 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Ambasssadors Meeting at 2006-12-14 22:00 UTC In-Reply-To: <369bce3b0612141002yaffd6e7q58d1894e457e82ab@mail.gmail.com> References: <369bce3b0612141002yaffd6e7q58d1894e457e82ab@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1166445178.24057.5.camel@unused> On Thu, 2006-12-14 at 10:02 -0800, Thomas Chung wrote: > We'll have a Fedora Ambassadors Meeting at 2006-12-14 22:00 UTC > Please check your local time and plan to attend with your agenda. > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings > Regards, Apologies for missing not just this meeting but all the meeting in the past month or so. My travel schedule has been pretty hectic. I am speaking on Virtualization at SCALE 5x in February in LA. Thomas - I think you will be there too? Let me know if you want to coordinate anything. I believe they are listing me as being from Red Hat vs. Fedora, but it's really for both and I'll be doing the demo on RHEL 5 beta with Core 6 guests. -Sam From tchung at fedoraproject.org Mon Dec 18 18:40:02 2006 From: tchung at fedoraproject.org (Thomas Chung) Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 10:40:02 -0800 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: SCALE 5X Message-ID: <369bce3b0612181040l61098fdbs5f01a1f730cbb12@mail.gmail.com> On 12/18/06, Sam Folk-Williams wrote: > I am speaking on Virtualization at SCALE 5x in February in LA. > > Thomas - I think you will be there too? Let me know if you want to > coordinate anything. I believe they are listing me as being from Red Hat > vs. Fedora, but it's really for both and I'll be doing the demo on RHEL > 5 beta with Core 6 guests. > > -Sam Hi Sam, Yes, I'll be there. In fact I'm the primary contact for the event. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/SCALE5X Sometime in January, I'll contact the vendor regarding full passes for our presenters. Regards, -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung From rwhetsel at ravensong.com Fri Dec 15 21:47:16 2006 From: rwhetsel at ravensong.com (Robert Whetsel) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 16:47:16 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: SCALE 5X In-Reply-To: <369bce3b0612181040l61098fdbs5f01a1f730cbb12@mail.gmail.com> References: <369bce3b0612181040l61098fdbs5f01a1f730cbb12@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <458317E4.2040101@ravensong.com> Tomas, I have been invited to speak at this event. I don't know yet if my schedule will allow for me to make it. I'll let you know if I can get to the west coast in time for SCALE. --rwhetsel Thomas Chung wrote: > On 12/18/06, Sam Folk-Williams wrote: >> I am speaking on Virtualization at SCALE 5x in February in LA. >> >> Thomas - I think you will be there too? Let me know if you want to >> coordinate anything. I believe they are listing me as being from Red Hat >> vs. Fedora, but it's really for both and I'll be doing the demo on RHEL >> 5 beta with Core 6 guests. >> >> -Sam > > Hi Sam, > Yes, I'll be there. In fact I'm the primary contact for the event. > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/SCALE5X > Sometime in January, I'll contact the vendor regarding full passes for > our presenters. > Regards, From tchung at fedoraproject.org Mon Dec 18 18:55:40 2006 From: tchung at fedoraproject.org (Thomas Chung) Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 10:55:40 -0800 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: SCALE 5X In-Reply-To: <458317E4.2040101@ravensong.com> References: <369bce3b0612181040l61098fdbs5f01a1f730cbb12@mail.gmail.com> <458317E4.2040101@ravensong.com> Message-ID: <369bce3b0612181055k2bf78919x72ab59101dd82cb7@mail.gmail.com> On 12/15/06, Robert Whetsel wrote: > I have been invited to speak at this event. I don't know yet if my > schedule will allow for me to make it. I'll let you know if I can get to > the west coast in time for SCALE. > > --rwhetsel It would be great if we get together once again. :) Cheers! -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung From chitlesh at fedoraproject.org Tue Dec 19 19:15:08 2006 From: chitlesh at fedoraproject.org (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 20:15:08 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] FOSDEM: Fedora/Centos/RPM Social Event Invitation From Centos team Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0612191115o29a85cf2q7d6260fbe15988be@mail.gmail.com> This is a forwarded mail of Dag Wieers: Feel free to update _our_ wiki page if you plan to attend. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/FOSDEM2007 Chitlesh Dag Wieers wrote: > Hi all, > > I'd like to propose to meet on friday during the day to meet each other > away from FOSDEM. FOSDEM tends to be pretty hectic and a hard place to > socialize and I think it would be useful to use the day before FOSDEM > to meet somewhere in Brussels at 14h (or later as convenient). > > In the evening there is a more official social event in Brussels that we > can attend and the next day around noon FOSDEM kicks off for 2 days. > > Everyone from the Fedora/CentOS/RPM community is invited, so forward to > those who are missing and might attend FOSDEM or join us in the devroom. > > I propose to use the CentOS wiki for the preparations of this pre-FOSDEM > meeting and to collect a list of people that are coming (so that we know > when everybody is in). > > http://wiki.centos.org/Events/PreFosdem2007 > > You can mail me if you want to add yourself to the list or have some > suggestions but do not want to register to the wiki for this. > > PS I hope this is still on time for people to rework their schedule. > > Kind regards, > -- dag wieers, dag at wieers.com, http://dag.wieers.com/ -- > [all I want is a warm bed and a kind word and unlimited power] > -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com From tchung at fedoraproject.org Wed Dec 20 21:28:31 2006 From: tchung at fedoraproject.org (Thomas Chung) Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 13:28:31 -0800 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Free Media Program - November List Message-ID: <369bce3b0612201328q39de4353ie38ecf963b442784@mail.gmail.com> Thanks to KarlieRobinson and other contributors, we have successfully fulfilled 100% of free media requests for the month of November. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution/FreeMedia/FC6DVD/November But we're not done yet as we still have 117 un-fulfilled requests in our December queue. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution/FreeMedia/FC6DVD/December Christmas is just around the corner and let's give them a *Gift of Fedora* http://www.redhat.com/fedora/ On behalf of Fedora Ambassadors Steering Committee, I would like to thank everyone and wish you the Very Best and Happy Holidays! -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Fri Dec 22 16:09:44 2006 From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi) Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 21:39:44 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Need team for National level annual technical symposium, India. Message-ID: Hi all, I am currently in talk with LUG,Durgapur on the occasion of their 'National level annual technical symposium on GNU/Linux and related Free and Open Source Software(FOSS)." Here is the link http://lug.nitdgp.ac.in/index.php?ch=mukti&muktich=1 They want a team from us to work with them...right from the registration desk... So we need members,volunteers on this occasion. This is a tentative proposal, but i have talked to them over phone and they want to know about the team and tentative proposals from us... So I need members and suggesions about our proposal to them. Thanks and regards, Susmit -- ssh 0x86DD170A From linuxdominatrix at gmail.com Sat Dec 23 18:57:11 2006 From: linuxdominatrix at gmail.com (Rohan Dighe) Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2006 00:27:11 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] FedoraLivecd wishlist Message-ID: <8f6eaac0612231057s69dca450qaa4c350f9510bd24@mail.gmail.com> Well, I don't know whether this is the right place to ask this query, but here goes:- i saw this link a few days back, http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraLiveCD now since i have vacations, i was thinking maybe i would start working on the wishlist problem of " Persistence; e.g. the ability to save livecd changes (e.g. installed software) to a USB stick instead of tmpfs ". The point is i don't know much about the project and also i don't know whom to reach out for in order to get technical help. Also i checked out the Mentors page but there is no one assigned to this sort of stuff. Well, i would be very glad if someone could point out the right person for me. I would get started on this thing asap. Thank You, Rohan Dighe Fedora Ambassador India. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/RohanDighe -- You do not really understand something unless you can explain it to your grandmother. -- Albert Einstein From sundaram at redhat.com Sat Dec 23 19:05:14 2006 From: sundaram at redhat.com (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2006 00:35:14 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] FedoraLivecd wishlist In-Reply-To: <8f6eaac0612231057s69dca450qaa4c350f9510bd24@mail.gmail.com> References: <8f6eaac0612231057s69dca450qaa4c350f9510bd24@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <458D7DEA.8020804@redhat.com> Rohan Dighe wrote: > Well, > > I don't know whether this is the right place to ask this query, but here > goes:- > > i saw this link a few days back, > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraLiveCD > > now since i have vacations, i was thinking maybe i would start working > on the wishlist problem of " Persistence; e.g. the ability to save > livecd changes (e.g. installed software) to a USB stick instead of > tmpfs ". I have added all the information you asked for to the above wiki page. Rahul From maxime.carron at fedoraproject.org Sat Dec 23 20:01:18 2006 From: maxime.carron at fedoraproject.org (Maxime Carron) Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2006 21:01:18 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] TEST : Don't reply Message-ID: <1166904078.2913.2.camel@fc6.falloy.be> test lalala -- Maxime Carron Fedora Ambassador Fedora-fr Community Manager From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Sat Dec 23 21:45:13 2006 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2006 03:15:13 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Need team for National level annual technical symposium, India. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <458DA369.1050401@fedoraproject.org> susmit shannigrahi wrote: > Hi all, > > I am currently in talk with LUG,Durgapur on the occasion of their > 'National level annual technical symposium on GNU/Linux and related > Free and Open Source Software(FOSS)." > > Here is the link > http://lug.nitdgp.ac.in/index.php?ch=mukti&muktich=1 > > They want a team from us to work with them...right from the registration > desk... > So we need members,volunteers on > this occasion. This is a tentative proposal, but i have talked to them > over phone and > they want to know about the team and tentative proposals from us... > > So I need members and suggesions about our proposal to them. > The website seems to be a maze of links. I believe Kushal was referring to this when we met on foss.in in Bangalore. Kushal, are you participating? On Feb, I have FUDCon Boston, this one and Linux Asia in Delhi at the month end. Is this oriented towards towards? Rahul From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Sat Dec 23 21:46:27 2006 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2006 03:16:27 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Need team for National level annual technical symposium, India. In-Reply-To: <458DA369.1050401@fedoraproject.org> References: <458DA369.1050401@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <458DA3B3.9010200@fedoraproject.org> Rahul Sundaram wrote: > susmit shannigrahi wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> I am currently in talk with LUG,Durgapur on the occasion of their >> 'National level annual technical symposium on GNU/Linux and related >> Free and Open Source Software(FOSS)." >> >> Here is the link >> http://lug.nitdgp.ac.in/index.php?ch=mukti&muktich=1 >> >> They want a team from us to work with them...right from the >> registration desk... >> So we need members,volunteers on >> this occasion. This is a tentative proposal, but i have talked to them >> over phone and >> they want to know about the team and tentative proposals from us... >> >> So I need members and suggesions about our proposal to them. >> > > The website seems to be a maze of links. I believe Kushal was referring > to this when we met on foss.in in Bangalore. Kushal, are you > participating? On Feb, I have FUDCon Boston, this one and Linux Asia in > Delhi at the month end. Is this oriented towards towards? Ahem. That was too fast. Is this oriented towards students? Rahul From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Sun Dec 24 02:41:38 2006 From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (Susmit Shannigrahi) Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2006 08:11:38 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Need team for National level annual technical symposium, India. In-Reply-To: <458DA3B3.9010200@fedoraproject.org> References: <458DA369.1050401@fedoraproject.org> <458DA3B3.9010200@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <64edf44d0612231841g557cbc98pfbea49d69d18b684@mail.gmail.com> This IS meant for students. They have verbally confirmed me and also they want us to participate. I am waiting for their confirmation email which is due to come in. Once I get that I can announce the event. SUGGESSION ABOUT OUR PARTICIPATION WILL BE APPRICIATED (ACTUALLY I NEED IT). On 12/24/06, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > > Rahul Sundaram wrote: > > susmit shannigrahi wrote: > >> Hi all, > >> > >> I am currently in talk with LUG,Durgapur on the occasion of their > >> 'National level annual technical symposium on GNU/Linux and related > >> Free and Open Source Software(FOSS)." > >> > >> Here is the link > >> http://lug.nitdgp.ac.in/index.php?ch=mukti&muktich=1 > >> > >> They want a team from us to work with them...right from the > >> registration desk... > >> So we need members,volunteers on > >> this occasion. This is a tentative proposal, but i have talked to them > >> over phone and > >> they want to know about the team and tentative proposals from us... > >> > >> So I need members and suggesions about our proposal to them. > >> > > > > The website seems to be a maze of links. I believe Kushal was referring > > to this when we met on foss.in in Bangalore. Kushal, are you > > participating? On Feb, I have FUDCon Boston, this one and Linux Asia in > > Delhi at the month end. Is this oriented towards towards? > > Ahem. That was too fast. Is this oriented towards students? > > Rahul > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- ssh 0x86DD170A -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Sun Dec 24 02:43:32 2006 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2006 08:13:32 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Need team for National level annual technical symposium, India. In-Reply-To: <64edf44d0612231841g557cbc98pfbea49d69d18b684@mail.gmail.com> References: <458DA369.1050401@fedoraproject.org> <458DA3B3.9010200@fedoraproject.org> <64edf44d0612231841g557cbc98pfbea49d69d18b684@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <458DE954.5080105@fedoraproject.org> Susmit Shannigrahi wrote: > This IS meant for students. > They have verbally confirmed me and also they want us to participate. > I am waiting for their confirmation email which is due to come in. > Once I get that I can announce the event. > SUGGESSION ABOUT OUR PARTICIPATION WILL BE APPRICIATED (ACTUALLY I NEED > IT). > Please dont top post or use all caps(that's considered equivalent to shouting). http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines Rahul From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Sun Dec 24 03:03:13 2006 From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (Susmit Shannigrahi) Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2006 08:33:13 +0530 Subject: Fwd: [Ambassadors] Need team for National level annual technical symposium, India. In-Reply-To: <64edf44d0612231902t7ce2e373ua838e1a442a0043d@mail.gmail.com> References: <458DA369.1050401@fedoraproject.org> <458DA3B3.9010200@fedoraproject.org> <64edf44d0612231841g557cbc98pfbea49d69d18b684@mail.gmail.com> <458DE954.5080105@fedoraproject.org> <458DEB0B.6090805@fedoraproject.org> <64edf44d0612231902t7ce2e373ua838e1a442a0043d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <64edf44d0612231903u5653d6ddpa89f5928656f3d54@mail.gmail.com> On 12/24/06, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > > > I am not sure what sort of information you are looking for. Would you be > more specific? I want to know how do we get involved in some event without depending too much on presentation. What should there be excepts demos and presentations? I means what are the ways to get involved ? I can understand that if better if you can give one or two examples how we participated in previous events (Presentation and demos are ok..But what beyond that?) > > You are welcome. Thank you. -- ssh 0x86DD170A -- ssh 0x86DD170A -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Sun Dec 24 03:22:06 2006 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2006 08:52:06 +0530 Subject: Fwd: [Ambassadors] Need team for National level annual technical symposium, India. In-Reply-To: <64edf44d0612231903u5653d6ddpa89f5928656f3d54@mail.gmail.com> References: <458DA369.1050401@fedoraproject.org> <458DA3B3.9010200@fedoraproject.org> <64edf44d0612231841g557cbc98pfbea49d69d18b684@mail.gmail.com> <458DE954.5080105@fedoraproject.org> <458DEB0B.6090805@fedoraproject.org> <64edf44d0612231902t7ce2e373ua838e1a442a0043d@mail.gmail.com> <64edf44d0612231903u5653d6ddpa89f5928656f3d54@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <458DF25E.8050707@fedoraproject.org> Susmit Shannigrahi wrote: > I want to know how do we get involved in some event without depending > too much on presentation. > What should there be excepts demos and presentations? > I means what are the ways to get involved ? > I can understand that if better if you can give one or two examples how > we participated > in previous events (Presentation and demos are ok..But what beyond that?) > * Demonstrate/show off cool features. Keep the talk interesting and dont just read off slides but use them as hints to guide yourself and the audience. You can reuse and derive from http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Presentations. Anecdotes, stories, personal experiences (How and why you got involved, What has been interesting?), humor etc that fit into the context help. Get them interested in Fedora and Free software. * Engage the audience. Call the audience to participate and do a task. Ask questions, hand out shwag. Remember to keep track of time and stay on topic. Offer to discuss other questions off stage. * Demonstrate a Live CD and hand them a few. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraLiveCD * Explain to students what the benefits of Free and open source software and how Fedora fits into this experience. * Walk them through a set of a steps on contributing. Encourage that. Point out http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/HelpWanted For students, the breadth of technology and the wide variety of choices with the ability to use and contribute in a transparent fashion with complete source code would be interesting. Might consider talking to professors about getting their students involved in real life Free and open source software projects. Rahul From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Sun Dec 24 03:29:27 2006 From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (Susmit Shannigrahi) Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2006 08:59:27 +0530 Subject: Fwd: [Ambassadors] Need team for National level annual technical symposium, India. In-Reply-To: <458DF25E.8050707@fedoraproject.org> References: <458DA369.1050401@fedoraproject.org> <458DA3B3.9010200@fedoraproject.org> <64edf44d0612231841g557cbc98pfbea49d69d18b684@mail.gmail.com> <458DE954.5080105@fedoraproject.org> <458DEB0B.6090805@fedoraproject.org> <64edf44d0612231902t7ce2e373ua838e1a442a0043d@mail.gmail.com> <64edf44d0612231903u5653d6ddpa89f5928656f3d54@mail.gmail.com> <458DF25E.8050707@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <64edf44d0612231929k1fa73bbj687e08113ee51f53@mail.gmail.com> Thank you..Working on it. -- ssh 0x86DD170A -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kushal at fedoraproject.org Sun Dec 24 04:16:54 2006 From: kushal at fedoraproject.org (Kushal Das) Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2006 09:46:54 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Need team for National level annual =?iso-8859-1?q?technical=09symposium?=, India. In-Reply-To: <458DA369.1050401@fedoraproject.org> References: <458DA369.1050401@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <200612240947.03176.kushal@fedoraproject.org> On Sunday 24 December 2006 03:15, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > > The website seems to be a maze of links. I believe Kushal was referring > to this when we met on foss.in in Bangalore. Kushal, are you > participating? On Feb, I have FUDCon Boston, this one and Linux Asia in > Delhi at the month end. Is this oriented towards towards? I was talking about an event just before this(13th-15th Feb, 2006) :) Dr. B. C. Roy Engineering College, with the help of dgplug (www.dgplug.org) is going to organise a three day tech-fest keeping Free Software in mind. we had around 2 events(On Fedora) in 2006 there. On the first day there will be the first NRCFOSS (http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/) meeting, which will include participants from all engineering colleges in Bengal. The agenda of this meet is to start FOSS based syllabus for the students in Bengal. Next two days we will have seminars & workshops. Rahul, I talked about that seminar :) I will be there in Durgapur that time, so if you need any help from me, just tell. I can also give a talk or do some workshop if needed. Regards, Kushal -- Fedora Ambassador, India http://kushaldas.blogspot.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From kushaldas at gmail.com Sun Dec 24 04:46:08 2006 From: kushaldas at gmail.com (Kushal Das) Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2006 10:16:08 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Need team for National level annual technical symposium, India. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200612241016.08364.kushaldas@gmail.com> On Friday 22 December 2006 21:39, susmit shannigrahi wrote: > Hi all, > > I am currently in talk with LUG,Durgapur on the occasion of their > 'National level annual technical symposium on GNU/Linux and related > Free and Open Source Software(FOSS)." > > Here is the link > http://lug.nitdgp.ac.in/index.php?ch=mukti&muktich=1 > > They want a team from us to work with them...right from the registration > desk... So we need members,volunteers on > this occasion. This is a tentative proposal, but i have talked to them > over phone and > they want to know about the team and tentative proposals from us... What exactly we (Fedora Ambassadors ) will do at the registration desk ? Regards, Kushal -- Fedora Ambassador, India http://kushaldas.blogspot.com From linuxdominatrix at gmail.com Sun Dec 24 19:14:39 2006 From: linuxdominatrix at gmail.com (Rohan Dighe) Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2006 00:44:39 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] FedoraLivecd wishlist In-Reply-To: <458D7DEA.8020804@redhat.com> References: <8f6eaac0612231057s69dca450qaa4c350f9510bd24@mail.gmail.com> <458D7DEA.8020804@redhat.com> Message-ID: <8f6eaac0612241114g5de5209at3e28116b047ff7cf@mail.gmail.com> On 12/24/06, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Rohan Dighe wrote: > > Well, > > > > I don't know whether this is the right place to ask this query, but here > > goes:- > > > > i saw this link a few days back, > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraLiveCD > > > > now since i have vacations, i was thinking maybe i would start working > > on the wishlist problem of " Persistence; e.g. the ability to save > > livecd changes (e.g. installed software) to a USB stick instead of > > tmpfs ". > > I have added all the information you asked for to the above wiki page. > > Rahul > > thank you so much !!! - Rohan Dighe Fedora Ambassador India. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/RohanDighe -- You do not really understand something unless you can explain it to your grandmother. -- Albert Einstein From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Sat Dec 30 19:35:59 2006 From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi) Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 01:05:59 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Need team for National level annual technical symposium, India. In-Reply-To: <200612241016.08364.kushaldas@gmail.com> References: <200612241016.08364.kushaldas@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi all, Today I have got a mail from the organizers of this event, Here goes the mail...I don't think all points can be agreed to..but we can work on that. I don't know if this proposal can be accepted...The only thing i am sure about that selection of any ambassador is upon the steering commitee,I can not give any assurence on that. So..what you all think? The main point being they can give us slot only on the day before the main event starts... Dear Friend, We are happy to say that we would be wanting to collaborate with the Fedora Community during MUKTI 2007. We are ready to give slots for lectures to the Fedora Community on how to use fedora on the 15th of February, 2007 the day before MUKTI starts right inside the campus of NIT Durgapur, provided you assure us the credibility, technical ability and eloquency of the speaker. You will also be getting help from us to spread the Fedora word in the campus during MUKTI and can also interact with the students. You can also bring along any publicity material that you may want to distribute or display. We expect a team af about 10 (i hope more) people from you, all students from different technical institutes along with your speaker, who should be a professional and not a student. We hope that MUKTI will be linked from all your official websites and must be posted in our mailing list regulalry. As discussed over the phone, one student nominated by Linux Users' Group. NIT Durgapur must be selected to be a Fedora Country Ambassador without any probation period. The name will be informed to you as soon as you confirm to this mail. -- ssh 0x86DD170A -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kushaldas at gmail.com Sat Dec 30 22:35:58 2006 From: kushaldas at gmail.com (Kushal Das) Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 04:05:58 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Need team for National level annual technical symposium, India. In-Reply-To: References: <200612241016.08364.kushaldas@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200612310405.58871.kushaldas@gmail.com> On Sunday 31 December 2006 01:05, susmit shannigrahi wrote: > > As discussed over the phone, one student nominated by Linux > Users' Group. NIT Durgapur must be selected to be a Fedora Country > Ambassador without any probation period. The name will be informed to you > as soon as you confirm to this mail. What is this ? Any one can become a Fedora Ambassador, & there is nothing that one guy must be selected. If any one can follow the rules, he is ready to go. And there is no "probation period" iirc. Regards, Kushal -- Fedora Ambassador, India http://kushaldas.blogspot.com From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Sun Dec 31 01:11:33 2006 From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi) Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 06:41:33 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Need team for National level annual technical symposium, India. In-Reply-To: <200612310405.58871.kushaldas@gmail.com> References: <200612241016.08364.kushaldas@gmail.com> <200612310405.58871.kushaldas@gmail.com> Message-ID: Yeah, I know that...And told them too...But what about the rest of the offer? -- ssh 0x86DD170A -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kushaldas at gmail.com Sun Dec 31 06:49:19 2006 From: kushaldas at gmail.com (Kushal Das) Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 12:19:19 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Need team for National level annual technical symposium, India. In-Reply-To: References: <200612310405.58871.kushaldas@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200612311219.19811.kushaldas@gmail.com> On Sunday 31 December 2006 06:41, susmit shannigrahi wrote: > Yeah, I know that...And told them too...But what about the rest of the > offer? Horizon is the annual technical festival organized by Dr. B. C. Roy Engineering College students in Durgapur. This dates are fixed as 13-15 February 2007. Among them 13th is fixed for NRCFOSS meeting. On 14th we will have the workshops by kenneth , me & other people. & on 15th talks by guests including Rahul. It is going to be a direct clash. :( Other things are good & in the same time very common , nothing special from the previous MUKTI(s) (I was a participant in the Mukti '05). Regards, Kushal -- Fedora Ambassador, India http://kushaldas.blogspot.com