From kwade at redhat.com Sun Jan 1 12:13:34 2006 From: kwade at redhat.com (Karsten Wade) Date: Sun, 01 Jan 2006 04:13:34 -0800 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Online Shopping With Fedora Stuff In-Reply-To: References: <43AFD784.9000405@lm2.com.br> <43AFDE79.80000@gmail.com> <43AFE3BB.9030702@gmail.com> <43AFE7C6.8030304@redhat.com> <43AFEAC5.8060604@lm2.com.br> Message-ID: <1136117614.21442.44.camel@erato.phig.org> On Mon, 2005-12-26 at 15:04 +0100, Bj?rn Andersen wrote: > The T-shirts are just free publicity for Fedora. > I dont think Novell is attacking all websites selling SUSE T-shirts, > or Ubuntu or Mandriva or... > > If it doesen't harm, then why be angry about it? There is the potential for harm if we do not protect the trademark. In fact, forget potential. It *will* get misused. When that happens, our ability and right to protect the Fedora trademark and logo is directly tied to our past actions. If we have gone on for years not caring how the logo is used, we forfeit the right to protest how the logo is used. This is an awkward position to be in, we may appear to be mean and pushy, picking on little people. So, the keys seem to be: 1. Have clear usage guidelines. 2. Gently enforce those guidelines. 3. Keep everyone looking for, and reporting, violations. Most people *want* to use the Fedora trademarks in a legal and acceptable manner. Our job as Ambassadors is to help them do so. IANAL and all that. What I'm describing here reflects my personal understanding of how trademark enforcement works. - Karsten -- Karsten Wade, RHCE * Sr. Tech Writer * http://people.redhat.com/kwade/ gpg fingerprint: 2680 DBFD D968 3141 0115 5F1B D992 0E06 AD0E 0C41 Content Services Fedora Documentation Project http://www.redhat.com/docs http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From jwulf at redhat.com Sun Jan 1 12:24:01 2006 From: jwulf at redhat.com (Joshua Wulf) Date: Sun, 01 Jan 2006 22:24:01 +1000 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Online Shopping With Fedora Stuff In-Reply-To: <1136117614.21442.44.camel@erato.phig.org> References: <43AFD784.9000405@lm2.com.br> <43AFDE79.80000@gmail.com> <43AFE3BB.9030702@gmail.com> <43AFE7C6.8030304@redhat.com> <43AFEAC5.8060604@lm2.com.br> <1136117614.21442.44.camel@erato.phig.org> Message-ID: <43B7C9E1.4050008@redhat.com> > This is an awkward position to be in, we may appear to be mean and > pushy, picking on little people. > > So, the keys seem to be: > > 1. Have clear usage guidelines. > 2. Gently enforce those guidelines. > 3. Keep everyone looking for, and reporting, violations. > > Most people *want* to use the Fedora trademarks in a legal and > acceptable manner. Our job as Ambassadors is to help them do so. > > I also think that's a very important point Karsten. Perhaps one way that we might avoid looking like the bad guys is to take the tack that someone who does not have permission to use the trademark is not "in violation", they are simply "in omission". They've forgotten to apply for permission because it slipped their mind or because we didn't make it sufficiently clear how to do so. If we make it easy for people who have omitted to apply to do so, by gently reminding them, and explaining why such a process is necessary, most people will comply. Those who don't will be the ones who are in violation. There's nothing like being accused of violating something to get people on the defensive. Especially when they haven't done anything wrong and their motives are innocent. regards, --josh From gdk at redhat.com Tue Jan 3 15:39:46 2006 From: gdk at redhat.com (Greg DeKoenigsberg) Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2006 10:39:46 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Long-term plan for Fedora logo usage In-Reply-To: <43AFE7C6.8030304@redhat.com> References: <43AFD784.9000405@lm2.com.br> <43AFDE79.80000@gmail.com> <43AFE3BB.9030702@gmail.com> <43AFE7C6.8030304@redhat.com> Message-ID: This thread gives me an opportunity to let everyone in on the long-term strategy for Fedora logo usage. In the short term, I am the gate for Fedora logo requests. I've just returned from holiday, and I'll be authorizing logo usage requests myself later today. I'll also be noting the general patterns of WHY people are requesting usage, gathering instances of "typical cases." Once I've got a good sample, I'll take these "typical cases" to counsel, and we'll build a clickthru usage policy. People will be able to read a set of very basic guidelines, agree to them, give us contact information, and then they will be granted logo images and permission automatically. Should take no more than a couple of months. --g _____________________ ____________________________________________ Greg DeKoenigsberg ] [ the future masters of technology will have Community Relations ] [ to be lighthearted and intelligent. the Red Hat ] [ machine easily masters the grim and the ] [ dumb. --mcluhan On Mon, 26 Dec 2005, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Hi > > >> > > I think that the problem is that Use of the Fedora Logo needs to be > > 'authorised'. Of Course, people are allowed to sell `Fedora Core` for > > as much as they want (as long as they do not violate GPL). > > No. We dont need to authorize each and every instance. We can setup > guidelines just like we have the trademark guidelines and ask anyone who > wants to redistribute Fedora CD's and use the logos to go through these > guidelines and follow them. The current guidelines available > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/Logo are *temporary*. > > > > > But how much money are we really going to get out of them? > > > We dont really need money from anyone who merely redistributes Fedora > without any modifications as long as they follow the very reasonable > guidelines put forward. We can request them to contribute to Fedora > Foundation (remember its a non-profit and the amount can only used for > Fedora) say a fixed percentage of sales returns in exchange for vendor > listings and joint promotions perhaps but thats not absolutely necessary > if they want to just do things on their own. > > > -- > Rahul > > Learn. Network. Experience open source. > Red Hat Summit Nashville | May 30 - June 2, 2006 > Learn more: http://www.redhat.com/promo/summit/ > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > From gdk at redhat.com Tue Jan 3 15:45:15 2006 From: gdk at redhat.com (Greg DeKoenigsberg) Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2006 10:45:15 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Online Shopping With Fedora Stuff In-Reply-To: <43AFD784.9000405@lm2.com.br> References: <43AFD784.9000405@lm2.com.br> Message-ID: Interesting. Yes, they are selling accessories that are Fedora branded. They're authorized to sell the Fedora CDs -- the rights explicitly allow this -- but they are not allowed to sell t-shirts or hats or pens with the Fedora logo. Looks like I need to forward this to counsel. I'll ask them to handle it with discretion. Thanks for the heads-up, Mauricio. Although I think I'll wait until we've got new branded stuff of our own, actually. --g _____________________ ____________________________________________ Greg DeKoenigsberg ] [ the future masters of technology will have Community Relations ] [ to be lighthearted and intelligent. the Red Hat ] [ machine easily masters the grim and the ] [ dumb. --mcluhan On Mon, 26 Dec 2005, [ISO-8859-1] Mauricio Pretto - LM? wrote: > Hi Guys, > I dont know if this already has been discussed here, and if this > is the right place to talk about this, but..... > > There is a online shopping site here in Brazil called LinuxMall > (www.linuxmall.com.br) that sells Fedora stuff (t-shirts, pens, mugs and > others), i dont know if they have autorization to do this, i guess they > dont. > > I think we can talk with them and make part of this money be > donnated to fedora project dont you think ? > > > - http://www.linuxmall.com.br/index.php?category=canetas > - http://www.linuxmall.com.br/index.php?category=camisetas > - http://www.linuxmall.com.br/index.php?category=camisas > > Regards > > -- > Mauricio Pretto > Consultor de TI > 51 8145-9781 > > LM? Consulting? > http://www.lm2.com.br > Porto Alegre : 51 3018-1007 > S?o Paulo : 11 4062-9956 > Plant?o 24hs : 51 8145-2002 > > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > From gdk at redhat.com Tue Jan 3 15:57:49 2006 From: gdk at redhat.com (Greg DeKoenigsberg) Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2006 10:57:49 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Online Shopping With Fedora Stuff In-Reply-To: References: <43AFD784.9000405@lm2.com.br> <43B02BAC.4000500@n-man.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 27 Dec 2005, [ISO-8859-1] Bj?rn Andersen wrote: > I understand that. And agree that the Red Hat logo is for Red Hat > only. They diserv to make money out of it (i have 2), but as long as > the Fedora brand is not mis-used, I cant see how it can hurt the > Fedora project. And I cant see why Fedora project need to make money > out of somebudy that are making free kommersials for Fedora. > > I thnk that some Fedora ambassidors need to contact them, and ask why > they did not ask for permission. And then (if they arent rude) add > them to the reseller list. > > Dont push for money. They is will just abandom the T-shirts and sell > Ubuntu shirts instead. The important thing here is to protect the trademark. The *right way* to protect the trademark is a matter of some debate, I think. I'll advise legal -- they need to understand the situation -- but I don't think a cease and desist letter is imminent. --g _____________________ ____________________________________________ Greg DeKoenigsberg ] [ the future masters of technology will have Community Relations ] [ to be lighthearted and intelligent. the Red Hat ] [ machine easily masters the grim and the ] [ dumb. --mcluhan From kwade at redhat.com Thu Jan 5 06:44:53 2006 From: kwade at redhat.com (Karsten Wade) Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2006 22:44:53 -0800 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Online Shopping With Fedora Stuff In-Reply-To: <43B7C9E1.4050008@redhat.com> References: <43AFD784.9000405@lm2.com.br> <43AFDE79.80000@gmail.com> <43AFE3BB.9030702@gmail.com> <43AFE7C6.8030304@redhat.com> <43AFEAC5.8060604@lm2.com.br> <1136117614.21442.44.camel@erato.phig.org> <43B7C9E1.4050008@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1136443493.8443.176.camel@erato.phig.org> On Sun, 2006-01-01 at 22:24 +1000, Joshua Wulf wrote: > I also think that's a very important point Karsten. > > Perhaps one way that we might avoid looking like the bad guys is to take > the tack that someone who does not have permission to use the trademark > is not "in violation", they are simply "in omission". They've forgotten > to apply for permission because it slipped their mind or because we > didn't make it sufficiently clear how to do so. > > If we make it easy for people who have omitted to apply to do so, by > gently reminding them, and explaining why such a process is necessary, > most people will comply. Those who don't will be the ones who are in > violation. > > There's nothing like being accused of violating something to get people > on the defensive. Especially when they haven't done anything wrong and > their motives are innocent. +1 Greg - can you make a note of that? These are sins of omission until commission is proven. :) - Karsten -- Karsten Wade, RHCE * Sr. Tech Writer * http://people.redhat.com/kwade/ gpg fingerprint: 2680 DBFD D968 3141 0115 5F1B D992 0E06 AD0E 0C41 Content Services Fedora Documentation Project http://www.redhat.com/docs http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From lxmaier at gmail.com Thu Jan 5 13:42:38 2006 From: lxmaier at gmail.com (Alex Maier) Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2006 08:42:38 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Meeting Reminder In-Reply-To: <43BCE411.8050902@n-man.com> References: <43BCE411.8050902@n-man.com> Message-ID: <7f617d270601050542t71d8a543p9acf2ecde0d7b2eb@mail.gmail.com> A quick reminder to all newbies and inactive Ambassadors: participating in meetings brings you carma points, and I would like to encourage you to participate today--and every Thursday, as far as possible. Cheers, Alex On 1/5/06, Patrick Barnes wrote: > Just a quick reminder that we have a meeting coming up in a few hours! > > For details and for the meeting time in your timezone, visit > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings > > I look forward to seeing you all there! > > -- > Patrick "The N-Man" Barnes > nman64 at n-man.com > > http://www.n-man.com/ > -- > Have I been helpful? Rate my assistance! http://rate.affero.net/nman64/ > > > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > -- Check out the new content on Fedora Project page! http://fedoraproject.org From c_tosta at terra.com.br Thu Jan 5 13:53:05 2006 From: c_tosta at terra.com.br (Christian Tosta) Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2006 11:53:05 -0200 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Meeting Reminder In-Reply-To: <7f617d270601050542t71d8a543p9acf2ecde0d7b2eb@mail.gmail.com> References: <43BCE411.8050902@n-man.com> <7f617d270601050542t71d8a543p9acf2ecde0d7b2eb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200601051153.06294.c_tosta@terra.com.br> Alex, the meeting timings is not so good for me and other brazilians ambassadors, because 14:00 UTC is just the middle of working time here in Brazil (and lunch time). The best alternative timings for us is 22:00 UTC or 00:00 UTC. Cheers, Tosta. Em Quinta 05 Janeiro 2006 11:42, Alex Maier escreveu: > A quick reminder to all newbies and inactive Ambassadors: > participating in meetings brings you carma points, and I would like to > encourage you to participate today--and every Thursday, as far as > possible. > > Cheers, > Alex > > On 1/5/06, Patrick Barnes wrote: > > Just a quick reminder that we have a meeting coming up in a few hours! > > > > For details and for the meeting time in your timezone, visit > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings > > > > I look forward to seeing you all there! > > > > -- > > Patrick "The N-Man" Barnes > > nman64 at n-man.com > > > > http://www.n-man.com/ > > -- > > Have I been helpful? Rate my assistance! http://rate.affero.net/nman64/ > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- > Check out the new content on Fedora Project page! http://fedoraproject.org > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list -- =========================================== Christian Tosta Gerente de Suporte Comjota Inform?tica e Servi?os Ltda MSN: eletric_eyes at hotmail.com ICQ: 23229858 =========================================== From lxmaier at gmail.com Thu Jan 5 14:09:42 2006 From: lxmaier at gmail.com (Alex Maier) Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2006 09:09:42 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Meeting Reminder In-Reply-To: <200601051153.06294.c_tosta@terra.com.br> References: <43BCE411.8050902@n-man.com> <7f617d270601050542t71d8a543p9acf2ecde0d7b2eb@mail.gmail.com> <200601051153.06294.c_tosta@terra.com.br> Message-ID: <7f617d270601050609j5f762db3g5307d3ca77adde39@mail.gmail.com> The meeting times are alterating between 14 UTC and 22 UTC every week, to enable all ambassadors to participate at least in some of them. Cheers, a On 1/5/06, Christian Tosta wrote: > Alex, > > the meeting timings is not so good for me and other brazilians ambassadors, > because 14:00 UTC is just the middle of working time here in Brazil (and > lunch time). The best alternative timings for us is 22:00 UTC or 00:00 UTC. > > Cheers, > > Tosta. > > Em Quinta 05 Janeiro 2006 11:42, Alex Maier escreveu: > > A quick reminder to all newbies and inactive Ambassadors: > > participating in meetings brings you carma points, and I would like to > > encourage you to participate today--and every Thursday, as far as > > possible. > > > > Cheers, > > Alex > > > > On 1/5/06, Patrick Barnes wrote: > > > Just a quick reminder that we have a meeting coming up in a few hours! > > > > > > For details and for the meeting time in your timezone, visit > > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings > > > > > > I look forward to seeing you all there! > > > > > > -- > > > Patrick "The N-Man" Barnes > > > nman64 at n-man.com > > > > > > http://www.n-man.com/ > > > -- > > > Have I been helpful? Rate my assistance! http://rate.affero.net/nman64/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > -- > > Check out the new content on Fedora Project page! http://fedoraproject.org > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- > =========================================== > Christian Tosta > Gerente de Suporte > Comjota Inform?tica e Servi?os Ltda > MSN: eletric_eyes at hotmail.com > ICQ: 23229858 > =========================================== > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- Check out the new content on Fedora Project page! http://fedoraproject.org From lxmaier at gmail.com Thu Jan 5 13:42:38 2006 From: lxmaier at gmail.com (Alex Maier) Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2006 08:42:38 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Meeting Reminder In-Reply-To: <43BCE411.8050902@n-man.com> References: <43BCE411.8050902@n-man.com> Message-ID: <7f617d270601050542t71d8a543p9acf2ecde0d7b2eb@mail.gmail.com> A quick reminder to all newbies and inactive Ambassadors: participating in meetings brings you carma points, and I would like to encourage you to participate today--and every Thursday, as far as possible. Cheers, Alex On 1/5/06, Patrick Barnes wrote: > Just a quick reminder that we have a meeting coming up in a few hours! > > For details and for the meeting time in your timezone, visit > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings > > I look forward to seeing you all there! > > -- > Patrick "The N-Man" Barnes > nman64 at n-man.com > > http://www.n-man.com/ > -- > Have I been helpful? Rate my assistance! http://rate.affero.net/nman64/ > > > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > -- Check out the new content on Fedora Project page! http://fedoraproject.org From lxmaier at gmail.com Fri Jan 6 20:51:36 2006 From: lxmaier at gmail.com (Alex Maier) Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2006 15:51:36 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Fwd: Call for Papers for LinuxTag 2006 is still open In-Reply-To: <20060106114511.96E477E91@cassidy.linuxtag.org> References: <20060106114511.96E477E91@cassidy.linuxtag.org> Message-ID: <7f617d270601061251v795cabdva9ea1e4b1361dec2@mail.gmail.com> Papers, anyone? ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Wolfgang Drotschmann Date: Jan 6, 2006 6:45 AM Subject: Call for Papers for LinuxTag 2006 is still open To: alex at fedoraproject.org Dear Friend, an eventful year 2005 has ended. An important event for the Open Source and Free Software world was a successful LinuxTag 2005. One key for the success of this event was your commitment. We would like to thank you for your contribution for this event resp. your commitment in the last years. LinuxTag has moved! The next event takes place in Wiesbaden, Germany, May 3 - 6, 2006. In order to prevent collisions with the 2006 FIFA World Cup which starts in June LinuxTag 2006 takes place in May, which is six weeks earlier than usual. Wiesbaden, as the regional capital of Hesse, is located in the geographical centre of Germany, and offers excellent travel connections. What is more, as a part of the Rhine-Main region with its notable IT industry, it will attract a "fresh" and big audience. So, maybe you want to participate again, and place a submission for the next LinuxTag? In this case, please read our CfP at http://www.linuxtag.org/2006/en/home/cfp.html (English) or http://www.linuxtag.org/2006/de/home/cfp.html (German) for more information. The CfP will be open until January 15, 2006. Eventually you are interested to participate in the organisation of LinuxTag 2006? We are still looking for reviewers for the open CfP. If you want to join us, please drop me a note. Thanks again! Hope to see you at LinuxTag 2006. On behalf of the LinuxTag orga team I wish you a Happy New Year! Regards, Wolfgang Drotschmann drotschm at linuxtag.org Speaker's Office LinuxTag 2006 Free Conference Program LinuxTag 2006: Where .com meets .org http://www.linuxtag.org -- Check out the new content on Fedora Project page! http://fedoraproject.org From lxmaier at gmail.com Sun Jan 8 11:48:47 2006 From: lxmaier at gmail.com (Alex Maier) Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2006 06:48:47 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Fwd: FW: XE: 2005/6 In-Reply-To: <20060106145953.52912.qmail@web26515.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <7f617d270601040910ob944a6fxf29ab51b25146532@mail.gmail.com> <20060106145953.52912.qmail@web26515.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <7f617d270601080348o3d8c84aby2b95991b1129bf34@mail.gmail.com> Risking to appear the ignorant I am, I am forwarding this very puzzling exchange to the list--the quoted table came as an Excel file, which I converted to HTML and added to the body of the message. In any case, does anyone have a better idea what Marcus Smith was trying to say, if anything at all? Cheers, Alex ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Marcus Smith Date: Jan 6, 2006 9:59 AM Subject: Re: FW: XE: 2005/6 To: Alex Maier It is not my problem - you did not read it. *Alex Maier * wrote: I am sorry for being dense, but I don't understand your message. 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To: > CC: , > < deputy at CommonsLeader.x.gsi.gov.uk> > Subject: XE: 2005/6 > Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2006 23:10:40 -0000 > > AT&T // MOTO > FR&T GBX 2034 5.625 > > Cognos AND Cognizant THUS Cogent > > DSDM(agent) :: MoD DoD FCO SIS CIA MI5 MI6 NASA EADS EMI DFID.. 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Looks just like random spam to me. -- Rahul Fedora Bug Triaging - http://fedorproject.org/wiki/BugZappers From roffe.moshe at gmail.com Sun Jan 8 12:21:31 2006 From: roffe.moshe at gmail.com (Moshe Roffe) Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2006 14:21:31 +0200 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] regarding the Excel List Message-ID: <9895be990601080421lf6fb036vdcd3d00ab5be84f1@mail.gmail.com> Hi alex and Friends, Regarding the list, it seems to me that this is a list of ip numbers of various servers and the NMAP fingerprints of what those ip numbers are running and repesenting. using os fingerprints and os versionning in NMAP gives you those answers. but why Marcus has sent you this list? unknown. Hope i was Helpfull, Roffe Moshe, Israel. btw: I realy feel like Mahatma Ghani right now, fighting will those Microsoft Buffs, they know i am to be true, but they refuse to take the pill (the Red one). :-) Moshe. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sankarshan.mukhopadhyay at gmail.com Sun Jan 8 12:19:45 2006 From: sankarshan.mukhopadhyay at gmail.com (Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay) Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2006 17:49:45 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Fwd: FW: XE: 2005/6 In-Reply-To: <7f617d270601080348o3d8c84aby2b95991b1129bf34@mail.gmail.com> References: <7f617d270601040910ob944a6fxf29ab51b25146532@mail.gmail.com> <20060106145953.52912.qmail@web26515.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <7f617d270601080348o3d8c84aby2b95991b1129bf34@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43C10361.8050307@gmail.com> Alex Maier wrote: > Risking to appear the ignorant I am, I am forwarding this very puzzling > exchange to the list--the quoted table came as an Excel file, which I > converted to HTML and added to the body of the message. > > In any case, does anyone have a better idea what Marcus Smith was trying > to say, if anything at all? Unless the encoding is really freaky - looks like SPAM to me Rgds SM -- You see things; and you say 'Why?'; But I dream things that never were; and I say 'Why not?' - George Bernard Shaw From sundaram at redhat.com Sun Jan 8 12:32:20 2006 From: sundaram at redhat.com (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2006 18:02:20 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] regarding the Excel List In-Reply-To: <9895be990601080421lf6fb036vdcd3d00ab5be84f1@mail.gmail.com> References: <9895be990601080421lf6fb036vdcd3d00ab5be84f1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43C10654.90702@redhat.com> Hi > btw: I realy feel like Mahatma Ghani right now, fighting will those > Microsoft Buffs, > they know i am to be true, but they refuse to take the pill (the Red one). > :-) Really offtopic now, but thats Mahatma Ghandi and being an ambassador is about increasing awareness on the benefits of Free, Open source software througj Linux and in particular, Fedora rather than about fighting any entity in particular. -- Rahul Fedora Bug Triaging - http://fedorproject.org/wiki/BugZappers From lxmaier at gmail.com Sun Jan 8 12:32:04 2006 From: lxmaier at gmail.com (Alex Maier) Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2006 07:32:04 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Fwd: FW: XE: 2005/6 In-Reply-To: <43C10361.8050307@gmail.com> References: <7f617d270601040910ob944a6fxf29ab51b25146532@mail.gmail.com> <20060106145953.52912.qmail@web26515.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <7f617d270601080348o3d8c84aby2b95991b1129bf34@mail.gmail.com> <43C10361.8050307@gmail.com> Message-ID: <7f617d270601080432p4abe223ax9f6047f1c7aad31@mail.gmail.com> /me feels better :) thanks guys! On 1/8/06, Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay wrote: > Alex Maier wrote: > > Risking to appear the ignorant I am, I am forwarding this very puzzling > > exchange to the list--the quoted table came as an Excel file, which I > > converted to HTML and added to the body of the message. > > > > In any case, does anyone have a better idea what Marcus Smith was trying > > to say, if anything at all? > > Unless the encoding is really freaky - looks like SPAM to me > > Rgds > SM > > > -- > > You see things; and you say 'Why?'; > But I dream things that never were; > and I say 'Why not?' - George Bernard Shaw > -- Check out the new content on Fedora Project page! http://fedoraproject.org From sankarshan.mukhopadhyay at gmail.com Sun Jan 8 13:27:10 2006 From: sankarshan.mukhopadhyay at gmail.com (Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay) Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2006 18:57:10 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] regarding the Excel List In-Reply-To: <43C10654.90702@redhat.com> References: <9895be990601080421lf6fb036vdcd3d00ab5be84f1@mail.gmail.com> <43C10654.90702@redhat.com> Message-ID: <43C1132E.1090708@gmail.com> Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Hi > >> btw: I realy feel like Mahatma Ghani right now, fighting will those >> Microsoft Buffs, >> they know i am to be true, but they refuse to take the pill (the Red >> one). >> :-) > > > Really offtopic now, but thats Mahatma Ghandi and being an ambassador is > about increasing awareness on the benefits of Free, Open source software > througj Linux and in particular, Fedora rather than about fighting any > entity in particular. > And additionally off topic - it is Mahatma Gandhi (and not anything otherwise) :) Rgds SM -- You see things; and you say 'Why?'; But I dream things that never were; and I say 'Why not?' - George Bernard Shaw From sundaram at redhat.com Sun Jan 8 13:39:31 2006 From: sundaram at redhat.com (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2006 19:09:31 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] regarding the Excel List In-Reply-To: <43C1132E.1090708@gmail.com> References: <9895be990601080421lf6fb036vdcd3d00ab5be84f1@mail.gmail.com> <43C10654.90702@redhat.com> <43C1132E.1090708@gmail.com> Message-ID: <43C11613.8000304@redhat.com> Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay wrote: >Rahul Sundaram wrote: > > >>Hi >> >> >> >>>btw: I realy feel like Mahatma Ghani right now, fighting will those >>>Microsoft Buffs, >>>they know i am to be true, but they refuse to take the pill (the Red >>>one). >>>:-) >>> >>> >>Really offtopic now, but thats Mahatma Ghandi and being an ambassador is >>about increasing awareness on the benefits of Free, Open source software >>througj Linux and in particular, Fedora rather than about fighting any >>entity in particular. >> >> >> > >And additionally off topic - it is Mahatma Gandhi (and not anything >otherwise) :) > > Duh. Must get more coffee. -- Rahul Fedora Bug Triaging - http://fedorproject.org/wiki/BugZappers From tejasdinkar at gmail.com Sun Jan 8 13:50:57 2006 From: tejasdinkar at gmail.com (Tejas Dinkar) Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2006 19:20:57 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Fwd: FW: XE: 2005/6 In-Reply-To: <7f617d270601080432p4abe223ax9f6047f1c7aad31@mail.gmail.com> References: <7f617d270601040910ob944a6fxf29ab51b25146532@mail.gmail.com> <20060106145953.52912.qmail@web26515.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <7f617d270601080348o3d8c84aby2b95991b1129bf34@mail.gmail.com> <43C10361.8050307@gmail.com> <7f617d270601080432p4abe223ax9f6047f1c7aad31@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43C118C1.2080203@gmail.com> Alex Maier wrote: >/me feels better :) > >thanks guys! > > Maybe he just sent it to the wrong person... Now lets see.... I bet he just clicked the wrong address in the to address. Now what might be right next to fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com (alphabetically) *gasp* he was sending a list of IPs to the FBI!!!!!! /me gets paranoid!!! Gja From redbyte.labs at gmail.com Sun Jan 8 17:22:03 2006 From: redbyte.labs at gmail.com (REDbyte Labs) Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2006 23:22:03 +0600 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Fwd: FW: XE: 2005/6 In-Reply-To: <43C118C1.2080203@gmail.com> References: <7f617d270601040910ob944a6fxf29ab51b25146532@mail.gmail.com> <20060106145953.52912.qmail@web26515.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <7f617d270601080348o3d8c84aby2b95991b1129bf34@mail.gmail.com> <43C10361.8050307@gmail.com> <7f617d270601080432p4abe223ax9f6047f1c7aad31@mail.gmail.com> <43C118C1.2080203@gmail.com> Message-ID: Really puzzling table, it seems to me that it is some kind of table for statistic purposes. Showing usage of different web servers by large companies 2006/1/8, Tejas Dinkar : > Alex Maier wrote: > > >/me feels better :) > > > >thanks guys! > > > > > Maybe he just sent it to the wrong person... > > Now lets see.... I bet he just clicked the wrong address in the to address. > > Now what might be right next to fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > (alphabetically) > > *gasp* > > he was sending a list of IPs to the FBI!!!!!! > > /me gets paranoid!!! > > Gja > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > From lxmaier at gmail.com Sun Jan 8 17:43:38 2006 From: lxmaier at gmail.com (Alex Maier) Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2006 12:43:38 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Fwd: FW: XE: 2005/6 In-Reply-To: References: <7f617d270601040910ob944a6fxf29ab51b25146532@mail.gmail.com> <20060106145953.52912.qmail@web26515.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <7f617d270601080348o3d8c84aby2b95991b1129bf34@mail.gmail.com> <43C10361.8050307@gmail.com> <7f617d270601080432p4abe223ax9f6047f1c7aad31@mail.gmail.com> <43C118C1.2080203@gmail.com> Message-ID: <7f617d270601080943u7e5b6471r14c591cebaf58d49@mail.gmail.com> Whatever it is guys, it is spam, I will ignore messages from this guy from now on. Thanks everyone for your help, Alex On 1/8/06, REDbyte Labs wrote: > Really puzzling table, it seems to me that it is some kind of table > for statistic purposes. Showing usage of different web servers by > large companies > > 2006/1/8, Tejas Dinkar : > > Alex Maier wrote: > > > > >/me feels better :) > > > > > >thanks guys! > > > > > > > > Maybe he just sent it to the wrong person... > > > > Now lets see.... I bet he just clicked the wrong address in the to address. > > > > Now what might be right next to fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > (alphabetically) > > > > *gasp* > > > > he was sending a list of IPs to the FBI!!!!!! > > > > /me gets paranoid!!! > > > > Gja > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- Check out the new content on Fedora Project page! http://fedoraproject.org From fedora at leemhuis.info Sun Jan 8 19:19:09 2006 From: fedora at leemhuis.info (Thorsten Leemhuis) Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2006 20:19:09 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Fwd: Call for Papers for LinuxTag 2006 is still open In-Reply-To: <7f617d270601061251v795cabdva9ea1e4b1361dec2@mail.gmail.com> References: <20060106114511.96E477E91@cassidy.linuxtag.org> <7f617d270601061251v795cabdva9ea1e4b1361dec2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1136747949.2665.36.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hi Am Freitag, den 06.01.2006, 15:51 -0500 schrieb Alex Maier: > Papers, anyone? Good question. I can do a presentation about Fedora if no one else steps up -- maybe a bit in the way "Fedora: Past, Present and Future". Similar to the OpenOffice presentation mether works on. Any better Idea? I not a big fan of such shows and presentations (I seldom visit those), so I'm not 100% sure if such a presentation would be suitable. But I think it is. Anyway, I'd like to held it in German -- my English is not perfect and I seldom have to speak English (writing is easier). So I probably wouldn't feel comfortable doing it English and therefor like to avoid it... CU thl > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Wolfgang Drotschmann > Date: Jan 6, 2006 6:45 AM > Subject: Call for Papers for LinuxTag 2006 is still open > To: alex at fedoraproject.org > an eventful year 2005 has ended. An important event for the Open Source and > Free Software world was a successful LinuxTag 2005. One key for the success of > this event was your commitment. We would like to thank you for your > contribution for this event resp. your commitment in the last years. > > LinuxTag has moved! The next event takes place in Wiesbaden, Germany, May 3 - > 6, 2006. In order to prevent collisions with the 2006 FIFA World Cup which > starts in June LinuxTag 2006 takes place in May, which is six weeks earlier > than usual. > Wiesbaden, as the regional capital of Hesse, is located in the geographical > centre of Germany, and offers excellent travel connections. What is more, as a > part of the Rhine-Main region with its notable IT industry, it will attract a > "fresh" and big audience. > > So, maybe you want to participate again, and place a submission for the next > LinuxTag? In this case, please read our CfP at > http://www.linuxtag.org/2006/en/home/cfp.html (English) or > http://www.linuxtag.org/2006/de/home/cfp.html (German) for more information. > The CfP will be open until January 15, 2006. > > Eventually you are interested to participate in the organisation of LinuxTag > 2006? We are still looking for reviewers for the open CfP. If you want to > join us, please drop me a note. > > Thanks again! Hope to see you at LinuxTag 2006. On behalf of the LinuxTag > orga team I wish you a Happy New Year! > > Regards, > > Wolfgang Drotschmann drotschm at linuxtag.org > Speaker's Office LinuxTag 2006 Free Conference Program > LinuxTag 2006: Where .com meets .org http://www.linuxtag.org -- Thorsten Leemhuis From chitlesh at gmail.com Sun Jan 8 20:44:07 2006 From: chitlesh at gmail.com (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2006 21:44:07 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Fwd: Call for Papers for LinuxTag 2006 is still open In-Reply-To: <1136747949.2665.36.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <20060106114511.96E477E91@cassidy.linuxtag.org> <7f617d270601061251v795cabdva9ea1e4b1361dec2@mail.gmail.com> <1136747949.2665.36.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0601081244n58afa859ha948f9eaa91e074c@mail.gmail.com> > Good question. I can do a presentation about Fedora if no one else steps > up -- maybe a bit in the way "Fedora: Past, Present and Future". Similar > to the OpenOffice presentation mether works on. My girlfriend lives in frankfurt. it COULD happen ill be visiting at Wiesbaden with her. > Any better Idea? I not a big fan of such shows and presentations (I > seldom visit those), so I'm not 100% sure if such a presentation would > be suitable. But I think it is. at least, than nothing. > Anyway, I'd like to held it in German -- my English is not perfect and I > seldom have to speak English (writing is easier). So I probably wouldn't > feel comfortable doing it English and therefor like to avoid it... poor little me. I won't understand :( anyway most of the audience will be germans, so its better to do it in german. advantages: 1. information will be transmitted properly 2. we will have a german copy of mether's work on the wiki 3. at least there will be something about Fedora -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com From chitlesh at gmail.com Sun Jan 8 20:44:07 2006 From: chitlesh at gmail.com (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2006 21:44:07 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Fwd: Call for Papers for LinuxTag 2006 is still open In-Reply-To: <1136747949.2665.36.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <20060106114511.96E477E91@cassidy.linuxtag.org> <7f617d270601061251v795cabdva9ea1e4b1361dec2@mail.gmail.com> <1136747949.2665.36.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0601081244n58afa859ha948f9eaa91e074c@mail.gmail.com> > Good question. I can do a presentation about Fedora if no one else steps > up -- maybe a bit in the way "Fedora: Past, Present and Future". Similar > to the OpenOffice presentation mether works on. My girlfriend lives in frankfurt. it COULD happen ill be visiting at Wiesbaden with her. > Any better Idea? I not a big fan of such shows and presentations (I > seldom visit those), so I'm not 100% sure if such a presentation would > be suitable. But I think it is. at least, than nothing. > Anyway, I'd like to held it in German -- my English is not perfect and I > seldom have to speak English (writing is easier). So I probably wouldn't > feel comfortable doing it English and therefor like to avoid it... poor little me. I won't understand :( anyway most of the audience will be germans, so its better to do it in german. advantages: 1. information will be transmitted properly 2. we will have a german copy of mether's work on the wiki 3. at least there will be something about Fedora -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com From lxmaier at gmail.com Sun Jan 8 22:08:27 2006 From: lxmaier at gmail.com (Alex Maier) Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2006 17:08:27 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Fwd: Call for Papers for LinuxTag 2006 is still open In-Reply-To: <1136747949.2665.36.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <20060106114511.96E477E91@cassidy.linuxtag.org> <7f617d270601061251v795cabdva9ea1e4b1361dec2@mail.gmail.com> <1136747949.2665.36.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <7f617d270601081408x760876c7hcbff5a56d5c62f23@mail.gmail.com> Guys, please also keep in mind that Fedora will most likely have a FUDCon at LinuxTag in Wiesbaden. We need all your help to recruit good speakers for the two tracks. Cheers, Alex On 1/8/06, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote: > Hi > > Am Freitag, den 06.01.2006, 15:51 -0500 schrieb Alex Maier: > > Papers, anyone? > > Good question. I can do a presentation about Fedora if no one else steps > up -- maybe a bit in the way "Fedora: Past, Present and Future". Similar > to the OpenOffice presentation mether works on. > > Any better Idea? I not a big fan of such shows and presentations (I > seldom visit those), so I'm not 100% sure if such a presentation would > be suitable. But I think it is. > > Anyway, I'd like to held it in German -- my English is not perfect and I > seldom have to speak English (writing is easier). So I probably wouldn't > feel comfortable doing it English and therefor like to avoid it... > > CU > thl > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > From: Wolfgang Drotschmann > > Date: Jan 6, 2006 6:45 AM > > Subject: Call for Papers for LinuxTag 2006 is still open > > To: alex at fedoraproject.org > > > an eventful year 2005 has ended. An important event for the Open Source and > > Free Software world was a successful LinuxTag 2005. One key for the success of > > this event was your commitment. We would like to thank you for your > > contribution for this event resp. your commitment in the last years. > > > > LinuxTag has moved! The next event takes place in Wiesbaden, Germany, May 3 - > > 6, 2006. In order to prevent collisions with the 2006 FIFA World Cup which > > starts in June LinuxTag 2006 takes place in May, which is six weeks earlier > > than usual. > > Wiesbaden, as the regional capital of Hesse, is located in the geographical > > centre of Germany, and offers excellent travel connections. What is more, as a > > part of the Rhine-Main region with its notable IT industry, it will attract a > > "fresh" and big audience. > > > > So, maybe you want to participate again, and place a submission for the next > > LinuxTag? In this case, please read our CfP at > > http://www.linuxtag.org/2006/en/home/cfp.html (English) or > > http://www.linuxtag.org/2006/de/home/cfp.html (German) for more information. > > The CfP will be open until January 15, 2006. > > > > Eventually you are interested to participate in the organisation of LinuxTag > > 2006? We are still looking for reviewers for the open CfP. If you want to > > join us, please drop me a note. > > > > Thanks again! Hope to see you at LinuxTag 2006. On behalf of the LinuxTag > > orga team I wish you a Happy New Year! > > > > Regards, > > > > Wolfgang Drotschmann drotschm at linuxtag.org > > Speaker's Office LinuxTag 2006 Free Conference Program > > LinuxTag 2006: Where .com meets .org http://www.linuxtag.org > > -- > Thorsten Leemhuis > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- Check out the new content on Fedora Project page! http://fedoraproject.org From barzilay at redhat.com Mon Jan 9 05:47:41 2006 From: barzilay at redhat.com (David Barzilay) Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2006 15:47:41 +1000 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Red Hat Magazine article on Fedora Ambassadors In-Reply-To: <13dbfe4f0512251728t7d199592q931771b65ec3506a@mail.gmail.com> References: <43AEE874.1020002@redhat.com> <13dbfe4f0512251728t7d199592q931771b65ec3506a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1136785661.4224.5.camel@maxwell.brisbane.redhat.com> On Mon, 2005-12-26 at 02:28 +0100, Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: > > If you arent reading Red Hat Magazine on a monthly basis or even reread > > it daily you should. > > True, especially as a Fedora ambassador to ensure that you are > uptodate with the official news and Fedora's progress. No doubt! Also, from my own experience, I recommend the Ambassadors to translate or coordinate the monthly translation of these articles, so we make sure to spread the word in all different markets. These "localized articles" can be further published in the local Fedora websites, sent to mailing lists, blogs, etc. Now I'm back! ;) Cheers and lotsa positive vibes to all of you in 2006. Yours, -- David Barzilay From fedora at leemhuis.info Mon Jan 9 07:12:18 2006 From: fedora at leemhuis.info (Thorsten Leemhuis) Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2006 08:12:18 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Fwd: Call for Papers for LinuxTag 2006 is still open In-Reply-To: <7f617d270601081408x760876c7hcbff5a56d5c62f23@mail.gmail.com> References: <20060106114511.96E477E91@cassidy.linuxtag.org> <7f617d270601061251v795cabdva9ea1e4b1361dec2@mail.gmail.com> <1136747949.2665.36.camel@localhost.localdomain> <7f617d270601081408x760876c7hcbff5a56d5c62f23@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1136790738.4454.25.camel@thl.ct.heise.de> Am Sonntag, den 08.01.2006, 17:08 -0500 schrieb Alex Maier: > Guys, please also keep in mind that Fedora will most likely have a > FUDCon at LinuxTag in Wiesbaden. > We need all your help to recruit good > speakers for the two tracks. Didn't know that. Then such a separate presentation/paper probably doesn't make much sense. CU thl > On 1/8/06, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote: > > Hi > > > > Am Freitag, den 06.01.2006, 15:51 -0500 schrieb Alex Maier: > > > Papers, anyone? > > > > Good question. I can do a presentation about Fedora if no one else steps > > up -- maybe a bit in the way "Fedora: Past, Present and Future". Similar > > to the OpenOffice presentation mether works on. > > > > Any better Idea? I not a big fan of such shows and presentations (I > > seldom visit those), so I'm not 100% sure if such a presentation would > > be suitable. But I think it is. > > > > Anyway, I'd like to held it in German -- my English is not perfect and I > > seldom have to speak English (writing is easier). So I probably wouldn't > > feel comfortable doing it English and therefor like to avoid it... > > > > CU > > thl > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > > From: Wolfgang Drotschmann > > > Date: Jan 6, 2006 6:45 AM > > > Subject: Call for Papers for LinuxTag 2006 is still open > > > To: alex at fedoraproject.org > > > > > an eventful year 2005 has ended. An important event for the Open Source and > > > Free Software world was a successful LinuxTag 2005. One key for the success of > > > this event was your commitment. We would like to thank you for your > > > contribution for this event resp. your commitment in the last years. > > > > > > LinuxTag has moved! The next event takes place in Wiesbaden, Germany, May 3 - > > > 6, 2006. In order to prevent collisions with the 2006 FIFA World Cup which > > > starts in June LinuxTag 2006 takes place in May, which is six weeks earlier > > > than usual. > > > Wiesbaden, as the regional capital of Hesse, is located in the geographical > > > centre of Germany, and offers excellent travel connections. What is more, as a > > > part of the Rhine-Main region with its notable IT industry, it will attract a > > > "fresh" and big audience. > > > > > > So, maybe you want to participate again, and place a submission for the next > > > LinuxTag? In this case, please read our CfP at > > > http://www.linuxtag.org/2006/en/home/cfp.html (English) or > > > http://www.linuxtag.org/2006/de/home/cfp.html (German) for more information. > > > The CfP will be open until January 15, 2006. > > > > > > Eventually you are interested to participate in the organisation of LinuxTag > > > 2006? We are still looking for reviewers for the open CfP. If you want to > > > join us, please drop me a note. > > > > > > Thanks again! Hope to see you at LinuxTag 2006. On behalf of the LinuxTag > > > orga team I wish you a Happy New Year! > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Wolfgang Drotschmann drotschm at linuxtag.org > > > Speaker's Office LinuxTag 2006 Free Conference Program > > > LinuxTag 2006: Where .com meets .org http://www.linuxtag.org > > > > -- > > Thorsten Leemhuis > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > -- > Check out the new content on Fedora Project page! http://fedoraproject.org > From barzilay at redhat.com Mon Jan 9 08:07:17 2006 From: barzilay at redhat.com (David Barzilay) Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2006 18:07:17 +1000 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] meeting notes fedora ambassadors Dec 29, 22:00 UTC In-Reply-To: <7f617d270512291625t3fbffd60k4d494a4dd6ef0383@mail.gmail.com> References: <7f617d270512291625t3fbffd60k4d494a4dd6ef0383@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1136794037.17789.6.camel@maxwell.brisbane.redhat.com> On Thu, 2005-12-29 at 19:25 -0500, Alex Maier wrote: > Discussed: > > 1 > Steering committee members confirmed: > * Patrick Barnes (nman64) > * Thomas Chung (tchung) > * Greg DeKoenigsberg (gregdek) > * Alex Maier (Chair pro tem) (lxmaier) > * Rahul Sundaram (mether) > * Robert Whetsel (rwhetsel) > > We are still one or two (depending whether Greg can be an active > member) members short, so if anyone hears the call of duty, please > step up. I'd love to be part of the Steering Committee too. Although, I must advise the list I'm planning a long personal trip from approximately mid April to late May, period through which I'll have limited time for the cause. If the committee believes this will be a problem, I'll step down with no dramas ;) Thanks for the opportunity! Yours, -- Dave Barzilay From roffe.moshe at gmail.com Mon Jan 9 08:15:42 2006 From: roffe.moshe at gmail.com (Moshe Roffe) Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2006 10:15:42 +0200 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] I have a suggestion Message-ID: <9895be990601090015o2d8783ces7ae3607d58882a74@mail.gmail.com> Greetings, I love Linux shows and i have a suggestion. i would like to write about various advanced networking subjects such as: 1. Line Bonding (using the 802.1ad RFC (ling aggragation) --> more as a how-to 2. implementing virtual ip using vrrpd package 3. implementing advnaced reverse proxy for large internet portal using ISP and more, all of the subject can be implmented in fedora and redhat. I speak little German (actually it's YIDDISH which is a Hebrew-German Dialect), that might help, but i am more fluent in ENGLISH. how can i help? Roffe Moshe. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sundaram at redhat.com Mon Jan 9 08:59:58 2006 From: sundaram at redhat.com (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2006 14:29:58 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] I have a suggestion In-Reply-To: <9895be990601090015o2d8783ces7ae3607d58882a74@mail.gmail.com> References: <9895be990601090015o2d8783ces7ae3607d58882a74@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43C2260E.9050705@redhat.com> Moshe Roffe wrote: > Greetings, > > I love Linux shows and i have a suggestion. > i would like to write about various advanced networking subjects > such as: > 1. Line Bonding (using the 802.1ad RFC (ling aggragation) --> more as > a how-to > 2. implementing virtual ip using vrrpd package > 3. implementing advnaced reverse proxy for large internet portal using ISP > and more, > > all of the subject can be implmented in fedora and redhat. > > I speak little German (actually it's YIDDISH which is a Hebrew-German > Dialect), that > might help, but i am more fluent in ENGLISH. > > how can i help? By being part of the docs team. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject. Welcome to the project. -- Rahul Fedora Bug Triaging - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers From Frederic.Hornain at GB.BE Mon Jan 9 09:34:50 2006 From: Frederic.Hornain at GB.BE (Hornain Frederic) Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2006 10:34:50 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Info Message-ID: Dear *, Firstly, I would like to wish you an happy new years 2006. Secondly, I would like to thank the marketing team for the DVDs I have requested. Thirdly, I am still working with schools in order to help them to use it. If you have any remarks, feel free to contact me. BR Fred From sundaram at redhat.com Mon Jan 9 09:41:40 2006 From: sundaram at redhat.com (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2006 15:11:40 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Info In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <43C22FD4.1020104@redhat.com> Hornain Frederic wrote: >Dear *, > >Firstly, I would like to wish you an happy new years 2006. >Secondly, I would like to thank the marketing team for the DVDs I have requested. >Thirdly, I am still working with schools in order to help them to use it. > >If you have any remarks, feel free to contact me. >BR >Fred > It would be helpful if you can detail your ideas behind using Fedora for schools. Is there any preconfigured setup or kickstart profiles?. What are the current experiences and potential for improvements? -- Rahul Fedora Bug Triaging - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers From lxmaier at gmail.com Mon Jan 9 10:52:57 2006 From: lxmaier at gmail.com (Alex Maier) Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2006 05:52:57 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Fwd: Call for Papers for LinuxTag 2006 is still open In-Reply-To: <1136790738.4454.25.camel@thl.ct.heise.de> References: <20060106114511.96E477E91@cassidy.linuxtag.org> <7f617d270601061251v795cabdva9ea1e4b1361dec2@mail.gmail.com> <1136747949.2665.36.camel@localhost.localdomain> <7f617d270601081408x760876c7hcbff5a56d5c62f23@mail.gmail.com> <1136790738.4454.25.camel@thl.ct.heise.de> Message-ID: <7f617d270601090252t5bd6771w97e7a57c73c97a9a@mail.gmail.com> Thorsten, it very well might make sense, as not as many people will go to FUDCon tracks as to the general sessions. I would think if we reserve more specialized and in-depth talks for the FUDCon and general interest ones, such as Thorsten suggested, for the general sessions, we would reach both people who already know and use Fedora and completely new audiences (in the general sessions). On 1/9/06, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote: > Am Sonntag, den 08.01.2006, 17:08 -0500 schrieb Alex Maier: > > Guys, please also keep in mind that Fedora will most likely have a > > FUDCon at LinuxTag in Wiesbaden. > > We need all your help to recruit good > > speakers for the two tracks. > > Didn't know that. Then such a separate presentation/paper probably > doesn't make much sense. > > CU > thl > > > On 1/8/06, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote: > > > Hi > > > > > > Am Freitag, den 06.01.2006, 15:51 -0500 schrieb Alex Maier: > > > > Papers, anyone? > > > > > > Good question. I can do a presentation about Fedora if no one else steps > > > up -- maybe a bit in the way "Fedora: Past, Present and Future". Similar > > > to the OpenOffice presentation mether works on. > > > > > > Any better Idea? I not a big fan of such shows and presentations (I > > > seldom visit those), so I'm not 100% sure if such a presentation would > > > be suitable. But I think it is. > > > > > > Anyway, I'd like to held it in German -- my English is not perfect and I > > > seldom have to speak English (writing is easier). So I probably wouldn't > > > feel comfortable doing it English and therefor like to avoid it... > > > > > > CU > > > thl > > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > > > From: Wolfgang Drotschmann > > > > Date: Jan 6, 2006 6:45 AM > > > > Subject: Call for Papers for LinuxTag 2006 is still open > > > > To: alex at fedoraproject.org > > > > > > > an eventful year 2005 has ended. An important event for the Open Source and > > > > Free Software world was a successful LinuxTag 2005. One key for the success of > > > > this event was your commitment. We would like to thank you for your > > > > contribution for this event resp. your commitment in the last years. > > > > > > > > LinuxTag has moved! The next event takes place in Wiesbaden, Germany, May 3 - > > > > 6, 2006. In order to prevent collisions with the 2006 FIFA World Cup which > > > > starts in June LinuxTag 2006 takes place in May, which is six weeks earlier > > > > than usual. > > > > Wiesbaden, as the regional capital of Hesse, is located in the geographical > > > > centre of Germany, and offers excellent travel connections. What is more, as a > > > > part of the Rhine-Main region with its notable IT industry, it will attract a > > > > "fresh" and big audience. > > > > > > > > So, maybe you want to participate again, and place a submission for the next > > > > LinuxTag? In this case, please read our CfP at > > > > http://www.linuxtag.org/2006/en/home/cfp.html (English) or > > > > http://www.linuxtag.org/2006/de/home/cfp.html (German) for more information. > > > > The CfP will be open until January 15, 2006. > > > > > > > > Eventually you are interested to participate in the organisation of LinuxTag > > > > 2006? We are still looking for reviewers for the open CfP. If you want to > > > > join us, please drop me a note. > > > > > > > > Thanks again! Hope to see you at LinuxTag 2006. On behalf of the LinuxTag > > > > orga team I wish you a Happy New Year! > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Wolfgang Drotschmann drotschm at linuxtag.org > > > > Speaker's Office LinuxTag 2006 Free Conference Program > > > > LinuxTag 2006: Where .com meets .org http://www.linuxtag.org > > > > > > -- > > > Thorsten Leemhuis > > > > > > -- > > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > > > > > -- > > Check out the new content on Fedora Project page! http://fedoraproject.org > > > > -- Check out the new content on Fedora Project page! http://fedoraproject.org From fedora at leemhuis.info Mon Jan 9 11:20:06 2006 From: fedora at leemhuis.info (Thorsten Leemhuis) Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2006 12:20:06 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Fwd: Call for Papers for LinuxTag 2006 is still open In-Reply-To: <7f617d270601090252t5bd6771w97e7a57c73c97a9a@mail.gmail.com> References: <20060106114511.96E477E91@cassidy.linuxtag.org> <7f617d270601061251v795cabdva9ea1e4b1361dec2@mail.gmail.com> <1136747949.2665.36.camel@localhost.localdomain> <7f617d270601081408x760876c7hcbff5a56d5c62f23@mail.gmail.com> <1136790738.4454.25.camel@thl.ct.heise.de> <7f617d270601090252t5bd6771w97e7a57c73c97a9a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1136805607.11569.22.camel@thl.ct.heise.de> Am Montag, den 09.01.2006, 05:52 -0500 schrieb Alex Maier: > Thorsten, it very well might make sense, as not as many people will go > to FUDCon tracks as to the general sessions. > > I would think if we reserve more specialized and in-depth talks for > the FUDCon and general interest ones, such as Thorsten suggested, for > the general sessions, we would reach both people who already know and > use Fedora and completely new audiences (in the general sessions). Yeah, sounds sane. I'll go ahead an try to get a general talk registered. CU thl > On 1/9/06, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote: > > Am Sonntag, den 08.01.2006, 17:08 -0500 schrieb Alex Maier: > > > Guys, please also keep in mind that Fedora will most likely have a > > > FUDCon at LinuxTag in Wiesbaden. > > > We need all your help to recruit good > > > speakers for the two tracks. > > > > Didn't know that. Then such a separate presentation/paper probably > > doesn't make much sense. > > > > CU > > thl > > > > > On 1/8/06, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote: > > > > Hi > > > > > > > > Am Freitag, den 06.01.2006, 15:51 -0500 schrieb Alex Maier: > > > > > Papers, anyone? > > > > > > > > Good question. I can do a presentation about Fedora if no one else steps > > > > up -- maybe a bit in the way "Fedora: Past, Present and Future". Similar > > > > to the OpenOffice presentation mether works on. > > > > > > > > Any better Idea? I not a big fan of such shows and presentations (I > > > > seldom visit those), so I'm not 100% sure if such a presentation would > > > > be suitable. But I think it is. > > > > > > > > Anyway, I'd like to held it in German -- my English is not perfect and I > > > > seldom have to speak English (writing is easier). So I probably wouldn't > > > > feel comfortable doing it English and therefor like to avoid it... > > > > > > > > CU > > > > thl > > > > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > > > > From: Wolfgang Drotschmann > > > > > Date: Jan 6, 2006 6:45 AM > > > > > Subject: Call for Papers for LinuxTag 2006 is still open > > > > > To: alex at fedoraproject.org > > > > > > > > > an eventful year 2005 has ended. An important event for the Open Source and > > > > > Free Software world was a successful LinuxTag 2005. One key for the success of > > > > > this event was your commitment. We would like to thank you for your > > > > > contribution for this event resp. your commitment in the last years. > > > > > > > > > > LinuxTag has moved! The next event takes place in Wiesbaden, Germany, May 3 - > > > > > 6, 2006. In order to prevent collisions with the 2006 FIFA World Cup which > > > > > starts in June LinuxTag 2006 takes place in May, which is six weeks earlier > > > > > than usual. > > > > > Wiesbaden, as the regional capital of Hesse, is located in the geographical > > > > > centre of Germany, and offers excellent travel connections. What is more, as a > > > > > part of the Rhine-Main region with its notable IT industry, it will attract a > > > > > "fresh" and big audience. > > > > > > > > > > So, maybe you want to participate again, and place a submission for the next > > > > > LinuxTag? In this case, please read our CfP at > > > > > http://www.linuxtag.org/2006/en/home/cfp.html (English) or > > > > > http://www.linuxtag.org/2006/de/home/cfp.html (German) for more information. > > > > > The CfP will be open until January 15, 2006. > > > > > > > > > > Eventually you are interested to participate in the organisation of LinuxTag > > > > > 2006? We are still looking for reviewers for the open CfP. If you want to > > > > > join us, please drop me a note. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks again! Hope to see you at LinuxTag 2006. On behalf of the LinuxTag > > > > > orga team I wish you a Happy New Year! > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Wolfgang Drotschmann drotschm at linuxtag.org > > > > > Speaker's Office LinuxTag 2006 Free Conference Program > > > > > LinuxTag 2006: Where .com meets .org http://www.linuxtag.org > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Thorsten Leemhuis > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Check out the new content on Fedora Project page! http://fedoraproject.org > > > > > > > > > > -- > Check out the new content on Fedora Project page! http://fedoraproject.org > From jwulf at redhat.com Mon Jan 9 12:38:55 2006 From: jwulf at redhat.com (Joshua Wulf) Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2006 22:38:55 +1000 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Fwd: FW: XE: 2005/6 In-Reply-To: <7f617d270601080943u7e5b6471r14c591cebaf58d49@mail.gmail.com> References: <7f617d270601040910ob944a6fxf29ab51b25146532@mail.gmail.com> <20060106145953.52912.qmail@web26515.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <7f617d270601080348o3d8c84aby2b95991b1129bf34@mail.gmail.com> <43C10361.8050307@gmail.com> <7f617d270601080432p4abe223ax9f6047f1c7aad31@mail.gmail.com> <43C118C1.2080203@gmail.com> <7f617d270601080943u7e5b6471r14c591cebaf58d49@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43C2595F.1020403@redhat.com> Slightly OT, but does anyone know where I can pick up a case of Cialis, cheap? --josh Alex Maier wrote: > Whatever it is guys, it is spam, I will ignore messages from this guy > from now on. > Thanks everyone for your help, > Alex > > On 1/8/06, REDbyte Labs wrote: > >> Really puzzling table, it seems to me that it is some kind of table >> for statistic purposes. Showing usage of different web servers by >> large companies >> >> 2006/1/8, Tejas Dinkar : >> >>> Alex Maier wrote: >>> >>> >>>> /me feels better :) >>>> >>>> thanks guys! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> Maybe he just sent it to the wrong person... >>> >>> Now lets see.... I bet he just clicked the wrong address in the to address. >>> >>> Now what might be right next to fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >>> (alphabetically) >>> >>> *gasp* >>> >>> he was sending a list of IPs to the FBI!!!!!! >>> >>> /me gets paranoid!!! >>> >>> Gja >>> >>> -- >>> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >>> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >>> >>> >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> >> > > > -- > Check out the new content on Fedora Project page! http://fedoraproject.org > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > From Frederic.Hornain at GB.BE Mon Jan 9 13:11:27 2006 From: Frederic.Hornain at GB.BE (Hornain Frederic) Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2006 14:11:27 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Info Message-ID: Dear Rahul, > It would be helpful if you can detail your ideas behind using Fedora for schools. Indeed, the next generation of users, managers and so on... are currently at school and they will be the ones who will take the decisions in the futur. Agree ? However, nearly all of them are using MS Windows for the moment. :( Ok, I can admit more and more students are using Linux -I am glad ! :) - but the majority of these ones unfortunatly are still running proprietary OS. Although it is maybe not the same case in all countries, in France and Belgium it is more and less like that. Not due to students but mainly due to Edcuation choice, teachers knowledges or preferences, current technologies used in companies, so on so for.... So I am convinced we should invest in schools. Because, if we can help students, teachers, and educational organistation to work actively with Linux and not only install it in order to know how it looks like. I pretty sure that we would manage the revolution cause if they have used it during their student life it could be their choice during their active life. Ok, I agree. It will not be so easy than that cause when you begin your active life, you are not often directly an (IT) manager or the boss. But if you are more than one who know linux in your first company I am sure you can influence the future choice of your manager. Anyway, it is better than nothing. In addition, there is more chance to use linux in their futur company if someone of the team know how to use it. The ideas behind using Fedora for schools is to create a linux group of students, teachers in each school who interact with the fedora communauty and will learn the benefit of using open source instead of using proprietary systems. >Is there any preconfigured setup or kickstart profiles?. Well, I think that we have to start with computers University students. >What are the current experiences and potential for improvements? In the next few day, I will create a wiki page for that. BTW, sorry for the quick explanation. Hoping that is clear. Anyway ,if you have any question, suggestions, or other, feel free to contact me Best Regards Fred -----Original Message----- From: Rahul Sundaram [mailto:sundaram at redhat.com] Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006 10:42 AM To: Hornain Frederic Cc: Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com Subject: Re: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Info Hornain Frederic wrote: >Dear *, > >Firstly, I would like to wish you an happy new years 2006. >Secondly, I would like to thank the marketing team for the DVDs I have requested. >Thirdly, I am still working with schools in order to help them to use it. > >If you have any remarks, feel free to contact me. >BR >Fred > It would be helpful if you can detail your ideas behind using Fedora for schools. Is there any preconfigured setup or kickstart profiles?. What are the current experiences and potential for improvements? -- Rahul Fedora Bug Triaging - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers From sundaram at redhat.com Mon Jan 9 13:43:38 2006 From: sundaram at redhat.com (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2006 19:13:38 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Info In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <43C2688A.2020801@redhat.com> Hornain Frederic wrote: >Dear Rahul, > > > >>It would be helpful if you can detail your ideas behind using Fedora for schools. >> >> > >Indeed, the next generation of users, managers and so on... are currently at school and they will be the ones who will take the decisions in the futur. Agree ? > > Right. >However, nearly all of them are using MS Windows for the moment. :( > > Not a coincidence. This is the result of targeted marketing to the education sector. >Ok, I can admit more and more students are using Linux -I am glad ! :) - but the majority of these ones unfortunatly are still running proprietary OS. >Although it is maybe not the same case in all countries, in France and Belgium it is more and less like that. >Not due to students but mainly due to Edcuation choice, teachers knowledges or preferences, current technologies used in companies, so on so for.... > What are the primary blockers?. Is it the syllabus, awareness or perception of unsuitability, combination of these? For the national level syllabus in India (CBSE) , Red Hat advocated and got some success is getting the government to adopt a vendor neutral syllabus recently. This in general paves way for the schools now to adopt open source and Linux solutions where appropriate. http://lists.wikicities.com/pipermail/fci-l/2006-January/000051.html. I am sure similar efforts can be done for other regions too if not already. This might be one of the key areas where better advocacy targeting the top level decision makers is required. A grassroots approach tends to fail. Students in general have no say in what the College/School administration decides. Even if they personally choose Linux, it might not impact their career as long as the education is rooted in learning proprietary products instead of underlying concepts. > > >So I am convinced we should invest in schools. >Because, if we can help students, teachers, and educational organistation to work actively with Linux and not only install it in order to know how it looks like. I pretty sure that we would manage the revolution cause if they have used it during their student life it could be their choice during their active life. > >Ok, I agree. It will not be so easy than that cause when you begin your active life, you are not often directly an (IT) manager or the boss. >But if you are more than one who know linux in your first company I am sure you can influence the future choice of your manager. >Anyway, it is better than nothing. >In addition, there is more chance to use linux in their futur company if someone of the team know how to use it. > >The ideas behind using Fedora for schools is to create a linux group of students, teachers in each school who interact with the fedora communauty and will learn the benefit of using open source instead of using proprietary systems. > > That we should invest is obvious. The harder part is deciding to invest where it makes a high impact. This is where local ambassadors who better understand the regional culture and requirements better can make a big difference. That means all of the Fedora ambassadors here have to step up to the needful. >>Is there any preconfigured setup or kickstart profiles?. >> >> >Well, I think that we have to start with computers University students. > > > We need to come up with more detailed plans and measurable milestones for that. >>What are the current experiences and potential for improvements? >> >> >In the next few day, I will create a wiki page for that. > Yes. That would be nice. -- Rahul Fedora Bug Triaging - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers From halaba at o2.pl Mon Jan 9 15:26:06 2006 From: halaba at o2.pl (Merlin) Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2006 16:26:06 +0100 Subject: [Fwd: Re: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Info] Message-ID: <43C2808E.2060604@o2.pl> We want to do a Fedora Core Poland Day on date when FC5 will start but we serch for help if you can help as write. thank's Merlin -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: Rahul Sundaram Subject: Re: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Info Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2006 15:11:40 +0530 Size: 3652 URL: From tejasdinkar at gmail.com Mon Jan 9 15:32:05 2006 From: tejasdinkar at gmail.com (Tejas Dinkar) Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2006 21:02:05 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Fedora Mirrors Message-ID: <1136820725.5524.9.camel@linuxbox> Many of the Ambassadors on this list will want to distribute FC5 CDs on the day of release at various events. Is there any way that a special mirror can be opened for the Ambassadors say 2-3 days early, so that we have time to download the ISOs and have time to burn CDs, so that we can distribute them? Just a passing thought Gja From sundaram at redhat.com Mon Jan 9 15:38:45 2006 From: sundaram at redhat.com (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2006 21:08:45 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Fedora Mirrors In-Reply-To: <1136820725.5524.9.camel@linuxbox> References: <1136820725.5524.9.camel@linuxbox> Message-ID: <43C28385.9000107@redhat.com> Tejas Dinkar wrote: >Many of the Ambassadors on this list will want to distribute FC5 CDs on >the day of release at various events. > >Is there any way that a special mirror can be opened for the Ambassadors >say 2-3 days early, so that we have time to download the ISOs and have >time to burn CDs, so that we can distribute them? > > We could potentially allow access at the same time we open in a limited fashion for the mirrors. Would a early bittorent tracker work? Wouldn't it be better to press and ship the CD/DVD's early be better? -- Rahul Fedora Bug Triaging - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers From sundaram at redhat.com Mon Jan 9 15:39:40 2006 From: sundaram at redhat.com (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2006 21:09:40 +0530 Subject: [Fwd: Re: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Info] In-Reply-To: <43C2808E.2060604@o2.pl> References: <43C2808E.2060604@o2.pl> Message-ID: <43C283BC.2050106@redhat.com> Merlin wrote: > We want to do a Fedora Core Poland Day on date when FC5 will start but > we serch for help if you can help as write. > thank's Merlin Sorry but I have no idea what you mean. Perhaps someone who talks the language natively translate the messages for me. -- Rahul Fedora Bug Triaging - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers From roozbeh at farsiweb.info Mon Jan 9 16:11:18 2006 From: roozbeh at farsiweb.info (Roozbeh Pournader) Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2006 19:41:18 +0330 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Fedora Mirrors In-Reply-To: <43C28385.9000107@redhat.com> References: <1136820725.5524.9.camel@linuxbox> <43C28385.9000107@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1136823078.3050.22.camel@tameshk.farsiweb.info> On Mon, 2006-01-09 at 21:08 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > We could potentially allow access at the same time we open in a limited > fashion for the mirrors. Would a early bittorent tracker work? Wouldn't > it be better to press and ship the CD/DVD's early be better? Well, I somehow don't like this. It will leak if the information is posted publicly, specially if it's a torrent. My recommendation is somehow making sure people can only access it with, say, their Fedora account system account, if they are in certain groups. Otherwise, it's really no different from making the release two days early. Everyone will have it by the time of the "official" release... roozbeh From sankarshan.mukhopadhyay at gmail.com Mon Jan 9 16:18:01 2006 From: sankarshan.mukhopadhyay at gmail.com (Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay) Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2006 21:48:01 +0530 Subject: [Fwd: Re: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Info] In-Reply-To: <43C2808E.2060604@o2.pl> References: <43C2808E.2060604@o2.pl> Message-ID: <43C28CB9.7070704@gmail.com> Hi, Merlin wrote: > We want to do a Fedora Core Poland Day on date when FC5 will start but > we serch for help if you can help as write. Let me sort of try and put what I understood from your mail: You/your team desires to hold a special event Fedora Core Polan Day on the same day FC5 is to be released so you would like some pointers on the same. Would you be able to provide some more details as to exactly what you would like to do ? Regards Sankarshan -- You see things; and you say 'Why?'; But I dream things that never were; and I say 'Why not?' - George Bernard Shaw From tejasdinkar at gmail.com Mon Jan 9 16:21:53 2006 From: tejasdinkar at gmail.com (Tejas Dinkar) Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2006 21:51:53 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Fedora Mirrors In-Reply-To: <1136823078.3050.22.camel@tameshk.farsiweb.info> References: <1136820725.5524.9.camel@linuxbox> <43C28385.9000107@redhat.com> <1136823078.3050.22.camel@tameshk.farsiweb.info> Message-ID: <1136823713.6465.4.camel@linuxbox> On Mon, 2006-01-09 at 19:41 +0330, Roozbeh Pournader wrote: > Well, I somehow don't like this. It will leak if the information is > posted publicly, specially if it's a torrent. My recommendation is > somehow making sure people can only access it with, say, their Fedora > account system account, if they are in certain groups. Well, even now, the ISO are distributed to various mirrors a few days early. I'm not sure how this happens, but I think that at this point the ambassadors can get it. I think it is given that some form of authentication will be required to ensure that it is not leaked. Also, I suggest NOT mailing this details to the list, but rather to the ambassadors personally. This will aid in not having the torrent URL leaked. Anyway, there are many ways to ensure security Gja From chitlesh at gmail.com Mon Jan 9 16:52:32 2006 From: chitlesh at gmail.com (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2006 17:52:32 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] I have a suggestion In-Reply-To: <9895be990601090015o2d8783ces7ae3607d58882a74@mail.gmail.com> References: <9895be990601090015o2d8783ces7ae3607d58882a74@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0601090852m55e356c3kf31c980802618c98@mail.gmail.com> > i would like to write about various advanced networking subjects > such as: > 1. Line Bonding (using the 802.1ad RFC (ling aggragation) --> more as a > how-to > 2. implementing virtual ip using vrrpd package > 3. implementing advnaced reverse proxy for large internet portal using ISP > and more, refer to this ongoing discussion https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-marketing-list/2006-January/msg00007.html maybe you can be a speaker at the next probable FUDCon in Wiesbaden in Germany -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com From redbyte.labs at gmail.com Mon Jan 9 17:47:12 2006 From: redbyte.labs at gmail.com (REDbyte Labs) Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2006 22:47:12 +0500 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Red Hat Magazine article on Fedora Ambassadors In-Reply-To: <1136785661.4224.5.camel@maxwell.brisbane.redhat.com> References: <43AEE874.1020002@redhat.com> <13dbfe4f0512251728t7d199592q931771b65ec3506a@mail.gmail.com> <1136785661.4224.5.camel@maxwell.brisbane.redhat.com> Message-ID: Is there anybody, who coordinates translations? I could translate articles in Russian, just tell where originals are, Regards, REDbyte 2006/1/9, David Barzilay : > > On Mon, 2005-12-26 at 02:28 +0100, Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: > > > If you arent reading Red Hat Magazine on a monthly basis or even > reread > > > it daily you should. > > > > True, especially as a Fedora ambassador to ensure that you are > > uptodate with the official news and Fedora's progress. > > No doubt! Also, from my own experience, I recommend the Ambassadors to > translate or coordinate the monthly > translation of these articles, so we make sure to spread the word in all > different > markets. > > These "localized articles" can be further published in the local Fedora > websites, sent to mailing lists, blogs, etc. > > Now I'm back! ;) > > Cheers and lotsa positive vibes to all of you in 2006. > > Yours, > -- > David Barzilay > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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(The following is not directly related to Tejas' message, but it are just my thoughts) We should watch out that we don't become a special "privileged" group. Ambassadors are normal people. I don't think we should be able to get FC5 earlier, just for our own fun. It is in the interest of the "image" (if that's the right word) of the Ambassadors and The Fedora Project. - Thijs -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tejasdinkar at gmail.com Mon Jan 9 18:13:30 2006 From: tejasdinkar at gmail.com (Tejas Dinkar) Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2006 23:43:30 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Fedora Mirrors In-Reply-To: <9590b2a80601091000s38c76c6fk9bd4f96e47fd90ca@mail.gmail.com> References: <1136820725.5524.9.camel@linuxbox> <9590b2a80601091000s38c76c6fk9bd4f96e47fd90ca@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1136830410.9952.10.camel@linuxbox> On Mon, 2006-01-09 at 19:00 +0100, Thijs wrote: > > Hi Tejas, Hiya Thijs > It's of course nice if an Ambassadors can get FC5 earlier, but, how > many times does it happen that you need FC5 exactly on the release > date? And is it really important for spreading Fedora - the goal of > being an Ambassador ? Although it is not essential, it would be a benefit if Ambassadors could get the CDs a few days earlier. See, why do mirrors get it early? Because they can in turn give it to people who download it from there. Here, the ambassadors will act like mirrors, and distribute. Besides, I know lots of people who sit for hours waiting for the release, just so that they can download. Having something on the day of release is an exiting thing for many people (hell, i am definately one of them). > I don't think we should be able to get FC5 earlier, just for our own > fun. Which is why I mentioned that only those ambassadors who ask for mirror access only for distribution purposes should be granted the same. Although I doubt we can strictly enforce this, I suggest asking ambassadors to make a minimum number of CDs if they download early. It is up to the ambassadors to honor that. Gja From chitlesh at gmail.com Mon Jan 9 17:03:19 2006 From: chitlesh at gmail.com (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2006 18:03:19 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Fedora Mirrors In-Reply-To: <1136823078.3050.22.camel@tameshk.farsiweb.info> References: <1136820725.5524.9.camel@linuxbox> <43C28385.9000107@redhat.com> <1136823078.3050.22.camel@tameshk.farsiweb.info> Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0601090903u75e4f074u3ffcb0b12d6a9dda@mail.gmail.com> > Well, I somehow don't like this. It will leak if the information is > posted publicly, specially if it's a torrent. My recommendation is > somehow making sure people can only access it with, say, their Fedora > account system account, if they are in certain groups. > > Otherwise, it's really no different from making the release two days > early. Everyone will have it by the time of the "official" release... True. Even I suppect many technews sites are registered to different mailist lists in order to publish the latest news. -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com From nayyares at gmail.com Mon Jan 9 19:16:47 2006 From: nayyares at gmail.com (Nayyar Ahmed) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 00:16:47 +0500 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] First Fedora workshop in Pakistan. Message-ID: <8e1ee2a30601091116g174c1878v37fe3af879d061e5@mail.gmail.com> Hello All, I have just joined Fedora Ambassador group, I am really pleased with you people efforts, I am a true lover of Open Source, I have been working to promote Linux/Open Source in different plate forms in Pakistan, but after becoming Fedora Ambassador i have decide to go for a workshop on Fedora, the expected audience is a 12 grade school students, where mostly students are using MS-windows, I will conduct a one day workshop (about 8 hrs.) and will first let them know Open Source and GPL, while after it my aim will be to tell them howto basic usage of Fedora. Expected audience strength will be around 50 students. For a success full workshop I need following support: 1. A pre-defined agenda for Fedora Workshop (if exists) 2. ppt, version slides on Open Source and Fedora. (if i can get official version). 3. Fedora DVDs (if Alix help me :) ) 4. I have plan to submit the detail report on this workshop, including photos etc. Is there any repository for uploading this kind of event reports, so that it can be included in Fedora Project official news. 5. Any other related material through which i can promote Fedora Project. Waiting for you people help and comments, Thanks -- Nayyar Ahmad CEO, OSSP, Pakistan. Email: nayyar at ossp.com.pk Cell: +92 333 9139461 Office: +92 91 5846548 Web: www.ossp.com.pk From chitlesh at gmail.com Mon Jan 9 19:33:59 2006 From: chitlesh at gmail.com (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2006 20:33:59 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] First Fedora workshop in Pakistan. In-Reply-To: <8e1ee2a30601091116g174c1878v37fe3af879d061e5@mail.gmail.com> References: <8e1ee2a30601091116g174c1878v37fe3af879d061e5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0601091133q402aeca2nfd66288982c48d5c@mail.gmail.com> > Waiting for you people help and comments, 1. well, it would good that you start by writing a subwiki ie. wiki/NayyarAhmad/workshop here you can explain your work, how you did the planning, where we(or your audience) can download the slides, your achievement, sort of stuffs ... 2 .keep in touch with the other local ambassador: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FaisalMughal From barzilay at redhat.com Tue Jan 10 02:53:33 2006 From: barzilay at redhat.com (David Barzilay) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 12:53:33 +1000 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Red Hat Magazine article on Fedora Ambassadors In-Reply-To: References: <43AEE874.1020002@redhat.com> <13dbfe4f0512251728t7d199592q931771b65ec3506a@mail.gmail.com> <1136785661.4224.5.camel@maxwell.brisbane.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1136861613.17789.21.camel@maxwell.brisbane.redhat.com> Hi Mr. REDbyte (?), I just sent an email to the Localization Services Mgr at Red Hat inquiring about this. Meanwhile, this is what I do: . subscribe to Red Hat Magazine: http://www.redhat.com/magazine/ so you know when new issues are published . check the newest Fedora articles on RH website . translate them in a text editor, mentioning the author and translator names . send to webmasters of local FC websites, mailing lists, etc Hope these help! Yours, -- Dave Barzilay On Mon, 2006-01-09 at 22:47 +0500, REDbyte Labs wrote: > Is there anybody, who coordinates translations? I could translate > articles in Russian, just tell where originals are, From nayyares at gmail.com Tue Jan 10 14:23:23 2006 From: nayyares at gmail.com (Nayyar Ahmed) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 19:23:23 +0500 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] How can i upload file to my wiki home page? Message-ID: <8e1ee2a30601100623rd6b7b50hd1a72be907aff69b@mail.gmail.com> Hi, How can i upload some files to my http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/nayyares page, as i am going to conduct a workshop soon on fedora project and i will upload slides/handouts etc. to this. Thanks -- Nayyar Ahmad CEO, OSSP, Pakistan. Email: nayyar at ossp.com.pk Cell: +92 333 9139461 Office: +92 91 5846548 Web: www.ossp.com.pk From lxmaier at gmail.com Tue Jan 10 14:59:17 2006 From: lxmaier at gmail.com (Alex Maier) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 09:59:17 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] I got you, babe Message-ID: <7f617d270601100659l6ba9da9scd376c8b51a6064a@mail.gmail.com> Hello gang, In the past few weeks, I have received more messages from Ambassadors directed to me only than there were on the list. In most cases, I could not really help but recommend to post the question to the list. Why? Because I am lazy? Nope, not really. It is that I have about as many ressources as you guys do, and because I do not konw everything. Pleasethink about the experience and technical expertise you can tap into by posting to the list! Further, if you post to the list and in the end it will be me who will respond to your question, everybody on the list will benefit from it, so once again--our list is your best friend. Cheers and read you on the list, Alex -- Check out the new content on Fedora Project page! http://fedoraproject.org From lxmaier at gmail.com Tue Jan 10 15:04:56 2006 From: lxmaier at gmail.com (Alex Maier) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 10:04:56 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] meeting notes fedora ambassadors January 5, 14:00 UTC Message-ID: <7f617d270601100704k43dd89ecn8da968c28873f81d@mail.gmail.com> Next meeting is Thursday Jan 12, 2006, 22:00 UTC recorded by RobertWhetsel House keeping: For the first 30 days the status of a newbie Ambassador will be "on probation" during which time they have a chance to prove themselves to the group by contributing to the project (see Ideas below). During the time on probation, the new Ambassador would not normally be able to request money or materials from the project. Exceptions can be made in extraordinary cases. If a person already actively contributing to another project. Off topic(OT) when an agenda is listed on we need to strictly follow it. This allows for accurate meting minutes(mm), and clear action items. We have had two meeting in the last two weeks and we have basicly re-answered the same questions with the same answers as last time. Our Goal should be clear; "Kick Gates in the nuts; further the open source cause and promote Fedora Core". This can only be accomplished if we are able to have achievable tasks that brings us closer to our goal (see last sentence). We need to choose the next meeting time and the next SC to run the meeting and do the minutes. Priority 1: Review upcoming owner: amaier events standing item Review the FedoraEvents. Make sure they're correct. Make sure we've got ambassadors covering them. Review these every week. Note the calendar at: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/event/ for all events: Does an event have anything to do with Fedora? -No any venue will do Anybody can add an event if they volunteer to go there or think it is important -We need to review the requests next week and hit the high points -If we review events early we can commit resources and maybe take advantage of free stalls, A talk, An install fest, etc... Suggested Events: -LinuxTag in Wiesbaden www.linuxtag.de ? GeroldKa: -BjornAndersen: http://linuxforum.dk/2006/ tchung's report on scale Gareth Greenway from SCALE contacted us regarding 3 full passes He wanted me to give him a list of guest who wll attend the SCALE. I've already gave Warren Togami and two other contacts. See .org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/SCALE BTW, please note the location *has been* changed due to some issue. More detail will be published in my next issue of FWN. Do we have a check list of what we would want or need for an event or a plan to promote fedora -handout DVD's to visitors -bring a machine with a CD burner... tell people to brng their own DVDs and make em a copy of Fc -live DVD or CDs (Our LiveCD project need more help from us) -http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Kadischi -Maybe post a request for a lead developer to fedora-devel-list or an article in FWN can help -you could ask one of these guys: http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/DerivedDistributions/LiveCDs Action Items: -SOP for adding event- unassigned -SC will put a watch on the page - need volunteer -Add GNUify to events - mether: -We need an Ambassador to volunteer to take a lead on coordinating events on the wiki and reporting to the SC. - need volunteer Priority 2: Schwag pipeline: amaier Need to make sure that the schwag pipeline is functional. This is separate from the actual stuff we send; this is just making sure that the stuff we send actually gets to the places it needs to go. What is Schwag? -T-Shirts, DVD's, Red Hat Boxes, T-Shirts, DvD, hats, coffee mugs, etc.. or any other free stuff that has our logo or promotes our cause How do I get Schwag? -The idea is for jwulf et al to build some tools that will funnel orders straight to the fulfillment system. -not answered When can I get Schwag? -not answered How long doe it take to get Schwag? -The schwag "pipeline" is, realistically, going to be more of a schwag "trickle" until February. -not answered What Schwag is available? -Design is scheduled to be complete end of next week -Shirts are supposed to be available in the US in late January -We're down to our last 1000 DVDs for FC4, and we don't have budget to burn more until FC5- Where does the Schwag come From? -DVDs, looking at FC5 for some truly *massive* numbers -- pricing 50 to 100k DVDs, and looking at prices for drop-shipping lots of 500 worldwide. -For DVDs, irrelevant. Whoever gives us the best price and shipping in the region. mattwebb's decision. -not answered Priority 2: Email addresses at fedoraproject.org: sopwith I know that Seth and Elliot are working on a good way to streamline this process and make it part of the account system and/or the wiki, but we need to keep up with it here. Meanwhile fill the required information on http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Emails Basically, there is nothing you need to do right now. We have control over fedoraproject.org DNS now, and the next step is to change the e-mail processing setup for that domain. Once that happens, all the aliases that currently appear @fedora.redhat.com should also appear @fedoraproject.org, and that will be it. Integration is happening so that anyone with an account in the f.r.c account system will have a fp.o address. fedoraproject.org aliases are not yet available. If you create your account now, you will get your fedora.redhat.com alias now and the fedoraproject.org alias will be added as soon as they are available. -Someone is actually working on a mainling list for SC -who -As a suggestion: anyone can post TO the SC mailing list, but only SC members can read the mails Action Items: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Emails Someone (who) audit this and I'll forward a request to skvidal to make this work for now. - gregdek_home Priority 2: Funding for attendance: amaier We will continue to discuss funding options for shows. -sc will decide on which events will receive money Priority 2: Presentations for Ambassadors: amaier We need to provide Ambassadors with some slide decks for various presentations. We should probably aggregate the ones we already have and make them available. We should also figure out our policy for licensing these presentations! -Can Presentations: Should consist of multiple smaller categories that an Ambassador could pick from as presentation time allows. Example or topics: FUD Fear Uncertainty & Doubt Defining Open Source What is the Open Source Development Process Linux History RedHat History What is the Fedora project -History -Players -Community Environment -Current Projects -Future Plans -template: people.redhat.com/sundaram/Fedora.sxi this is a good start -model: download the topics, apply either your own template or the fedora template... but if you use your own template, ping the list with it -We do need to keep all contributions covered under the right licensing scheme -a CLA might be necessary Action Items: -We need an Ambassador to volunteer to take a lead on coordinating the template for presentations- abompard -SOP for content review process ? RobertWhetsel will put it on my wiki for review before final commitment -rwhetsel will be releasing his lectures under the Open Business Foundation and make available to Fedora's Ambassadors free and open use after Company's legal clears request -- Check out the new content on Fedora Project page! http://fedoraproject.org From chitlesh at gmail.com Tue Jan 10 15:06:50 2006 From: chitlesh at gmail.com (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 16:06:50 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] I got you, babe In-Reply-To: <7f617d270601100659l6ba9da9scd376c8b51a6064a@mail.gmail.com> References: <7f617d270601100659l6ba9da9scd376c8b51a6064a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0601100706g63286f62rd5f7ee7215cd10ac@mail.gmail.com> > Further, if you post to the list and in the end it will be me who will > respond to your question, everybody on the list will benefit from it, > so once again--our list is your best friend. > one more thing while talking about lists, normally users having gmail accounts normally tend to click on "Reply" instead "Reply to all". They are not the same. What is the difference? "Reply" will only reply to the author of the post "Reply to all", as its words say it will reply to everybody subscribed to the list -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com From gdk at redhat.com Tue Jan 10 15:05:21 2006 From: gdk at redhat.com (Greg DeKoenigsberg) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 10:05:21 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Meeting Reminder In-Reply-To: <200601051153.06294.c_tosta@terra.com.br> References: <43BCE411.8050902@n-man.com> <7f617d270601050542t71d8a543p9acf2ecde0d7b2eb@mail.gmail.com> <200601051153.06294.c_tosta@terra.com.br> Message-ID: Ubuntu has some good ideas here, and where possible, I like to steal good ideas. :) Ubuntu rotates all of their important meetings: First meeting 0h GMT Second meeting 6h GMT Third meeting 12h GMT Fourth meeting 18h GMT What do you think? Smart or insane? --g --------------------------------------------------------------- Greg DeKoenigsberg || Fedora Foundation || fedoraproject.org Be an Ambassador || http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors --------------------------------------------------------------- On Thu, 5 Jan 2006, Christian Tosta wrote: > Alex, > > the meeting timings is not so good for me and other brazilians ambassadors, > because 14:00 UTC is just the middle of working time here in Brazil (and > lunch time). The best alternative timings for us is 22:00 UTC or 00:00 UTC. > > Cheers, > > Tosta. > > Em Quinta 05 Janeiro 2006 11:42, Alex Maier escreveu: > > A quick reminder to all newbies and inactive Ambassadors: > > participating in meetings brings you carma points, and I would like to > > encourage you to participate today--and every Thursday, as far as > > possible. > > > > Cheers, > > Alex > > > > On 1/5/06, Patrick Barnes wrote: > > > Just a quick reminder that we have a meeting coming up in a few hours! > > > > > > For details and for the meeting time in your timezone, visit > > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings > > > > > > I look forward to seeing you all there! > > > > > > -- > > > Patrick "The N-Man" Barnes > > > nman64 at n-man.com > > > > > > http://www.n-man.com/ > > > -- > > > Have I been helpful? Rate my assistance! http://rate.affero.net/nman64/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > -- > > Check out the new content on Fedora Project page! http://fedoraproject.org > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- > =========================================== > Christian Tosta > Gerente de Suporte > Comjota Inform?tica e Servi?os Ltda > MSN: eletric_eyes at hotmail.com > ICQ: 23229858 > =========================================== > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > From sundaram at redhat.com Tue Jan 10 15:14:49 2006 From: sundaram at redhat.com (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 20:44:49 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Meeting Reminder In-Reply-To: References: <43BCE411.8050902@n-man.com> <7f617d270601050542t71d8a543p9acf2ecde0d7b2eb@mail.gmail.com> <200601051153.06294.c_tosta@terra.com.br> Message-ID: <43C3CF69.1000200@redhat.com> Greg DeKoenigsberg wrote: >Ubuntu has some good ideas here, and where possible, I like to steal good >ideas. :) > >Ubuntu rotates all of their important meetings: > First meeting 0h GMT > Second meeting 6h GMT > Third meeting 12h GMT > Fourth meeting 18h GMT > >What do you think? Smart or insane? > > Advantage is atleast one of these timings would fit everybody. Disadvantage is having to remember the schedules and ambassadors not being able to attend all the meetings which is what is ideal especially for me and other SC members. If we can use a decent calendering system, then that would help. -- Rahul Fedora Bug Triaging - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers From nayyares at gmail.com Tue Jan 10 15:26:26 2006 From: nayyares at gmail.com (Nayyar Ahmed) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 20:26:26 +0500 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Meeting Reminder In-Reply-To: <43C3CF69.1000200@redhat.com> References: <43BCE411.8050902@n-man.com> <7f617d270601050542t71d8a543p9acf2ecde0d7b2eb@mail.gmail.com> <200601051153.06294.c_tosta@terra.com.br> <43C3CF69.1000200@redhat.com> Message-ID: <8e1ee2a30601100726t6662a636ve5f186b100d50aff@mail.gmail.com> Hi, I agree with Rahul, beside that this timing schedule will give opportunity to every body to get in at least one meeting, but the continuous rotating will make schedule management more difficult. The meeting time/date should be announced well before meeting, possibly full month schedule must be send to mailing list so that every body get know about whole month activities. On 1/10/06, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Greg DeKoenigsberg wrote: > > >Ubuntu has some good ideas here, and where possible, I like to steal good > >ideas. :) > > > >Ubuntu rotates all of their important meetings: > > First meeting 0h GMT > > Second meeting 6h GMT > > Third meeting 12h GMT > > Fourth meeting 18h GMT > > > >What do you think? Smart or insane? > > > > > > Advantage is atleast one of these timings would fit everybody. > Disadvantage is having to remember the schedules and ambassadors not > being able to attend all the meetings which is what is ideal especially > for me and other SC members. If we can use a decent calendering system, > then that would help. > > -- > Rahul > > Fedora Bug Triaging - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- Nayyar Ahmad CEO, OSSP, Pakistan. Email: nayyar at ossp.com.pk Cell: +92 333 9139461 Office: +92 91 5846548 Web: www.ossp.com.pk From tejasdinkar at gmail.com Tue Jan 10 15:28:04 2006 From: tejasdinkar at gmail.com (Tejas Dinkar) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 20:58:04 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] I got you, babe In-Reply-To: <7f617d270601100659l6ba9da9scd376c8b51a6064a@mail.gmail.com> References: <7f617d270601100659l6ba9da9scd376c8b51a6064a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1136906884.13492.5.camel@linuxbox> On Tue, 2006-01-10 at 09:59 -0500, Alex Maier wrote: > In the past few weeks, I have received more messages from Ambassadors > directed to me only than there were on the list. In most cases, I > could not really help but recommend to post the question to the list. I am a member of many mailing lists, including many lists on yahoogroups.com. If you view the mails from any on yahoo groups (in this case linux-bangalore-non-tech), you will find this line: Reply-To: linux-bangalore-non-tech at yahoogroups.com However, the messages from the RedHat Mailman does not contain ANY Reply-To header AT ALL... IMO someone should add that, it should end all this maddness just my Re 1 (at todays exchange rates, $0.02) Gja From lxmaier at gmail.com Tue Jan 10 15:32:12 2006 From: lxmaier at gmail.com (Alex Maier) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 10:32:12 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Meeting Reminder In-Reply-To: References: <43BCE411.8050902@n-man.com> <7f617d270601050542t71d8a543p9acf2ecde0d7b2eb@mail.gmail.com> <200601051153.06294.c_tosta@terra.com.br> Message-ID: <7f617d270601100732o2ee6d165x97ee41cdae5ffddc@mail.gmail.com> I'd say it is insane until we have our Steering Committee distributed enough for at least one member to attend and lead each meeting. Also, with the Ambassadors so far abstaining from meetings a lot, I do not konw whether I would like to get up early or stay up late just to meet with the usual highly committed folks who would also discuss on the list and participate in most meetings. Further, most Ambassadors seem to be oblivious of meeting times, even though we only have two. If we will have four or more, we will only increase confusion. Otherwise it might be worth at considering ;) a On 1/10/06, Greg DeKoenigsberg wrote: > > Ubuntu has some good ideas here, and where possible, I like to steal good > ideas. :) > > Ubuntu rotates all of their important meetings: > First meeting 0h GMT > Second meeting 6h GMT > Third meeting 12h GMT > Fourth meeting 18h GMT > > What do you think? Smart or insane? > > --g > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > Greg DeKoenigsberg || Fedora Foundation || fedoraproject.org > Be an Ambassador || http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > On Thu, 5 Jan 2006, Christian Tosta wrote: > > > Alex, > > > > the meeting timings is not so good for me and other brazilians ambassadors, > > because 14:00 UTC is just the middle of working time here in Brazil (and > > lunch time). The best alternative timings for us is 22:00 UTC or 00:00 UTC. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Tosta. > > > > Em Quinta 05 Janeiro 2006 11:42, Alex Maier escreveu: > > > A quick reminder to all newbies and inactive Ambassadors: > > > participating in meetings brings you carma points, and I would like to > > > encourage you to participate today--and every Thursday, as far as > > > possible. > > > > > > Cheers, > > > Alex > > > > > > On 1/5/06, Patrick Barnes wrote: > > > > Just a quick reminder that we have a meeting coming up in a few hours! > > > > > > > > For details and for the meeting time in your timezone, visit > > > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings > > > > > > > > I look forward to seeing you all there! > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Patrick "The N-Man" Barnes > > > > nman64 at n-man.com > > > > > > > > http://www.n-man.com/ > > > > -- > > > > Have I been helpful? Rate my assistance! http://rate.affero.net/nman64/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > > -- > > > Check out the new content on Fedora Project page! http://fedoraproject.org > > > > > > -- > > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > -- > > =========================================== > > Christian Tosta > > Gerente de Suporte > > Comjota Inform?tica e Servi?os Ltda > > MSN: eletric_eyes at hotmail.com > > ICQ: 23229858 > > =========================================== > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- Check out the new content on Fedora Project page! http://fedoraproject.org From sundaram at redhat.com Tue Jan 10 15:35:00 2006 From: sundaram at redhat.com (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 21:05:00 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] First Fedora workshop in Pakistan. In-Reply-To: <8e1ee2a30601091116g174c1878v37fe3af879d061e5@mail.gmail.com> References: <8e1ee2a30601091116g174c1878v37fe3af879d061e5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43C3D424.5030101@redhat.com> Nayyar Ahmed wrote: >Hello All, > >I have just joined Fedora Ambassador group, I am really pleased with >you people efforts, I am a true lover of Open Source, I have been >working to promote Linux/Open Source in different plate forms in >Pakistan, but after becoming Fedora Ambassador i have decide to go for >a workshop on Fedora, the expected audience is a 12 grade school >students, where mostly students are using MS-windows, I will conduct a >one day workshop (about 8 hrs.) and will first let them know Open >Source and GPL, while after it my aim will be to tell them howto basic >usage of Fedora. Expected audience strength will be around 50 >students. For a success full workshop I need following support: > >1. A pre-defined agenda for Fedora Workshop (if exists) > > We are planning a Fedora workshop in LinuxAsia - Delhi, India but the details are still under discussion. When its finalized I could post to the list about it. >2. ppt, version slides on Open Source and Fedora. (if i can get >official version). > > There isnt any standard version yet though thats under progress. See http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/Slides for the previous and proposed slides. My current draft is available at http://people.redhat.com/sundaram/Fedora.sxi >3. Fedora DVDs (if Alix help me :) ) > > Depending on the dates you might have to burn this yourself this time. Ambassadors as earlier posted on the list don't get immediate access to shwag with exceptions based on previous contributions. >4. I have plan to submit the detail report on this workshop, including >photos etc. Is there any repository for uploading this kind of event >reports, so that it can be included in Fedora Project official news. > > The slides page would be good enough. There is also http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/News which is automatically pulled into the frontpage - http://fedoraproject.org. Also you can mail Thomas chung, one of the Fedora ambassadors - tchung at fedoranews.org for your news items to be included. >5. Any other related material through which i can promote Fedora Project. > > Presentations and shwag that you can gather is the first kickstart. We have to create other material as appropriate in the future to form a marketing kit. You might take this opportunity to do just that. -- Rahul Fedora Bug Triaging - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers From sundaram at redhat.com Tue Jan 10 15:36:51 2006 From: sundaram at redhat.com (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 21:06:51 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] I got you, babe In-Reply-To: <1136906884.13492.5.camel@linuxbox> References: <7f617d270601100659l6ba9da9scd376c8b51a6064a@mail.gmail.com> <1136906884.13492.5.camel@linuxbox> Message-ID: <43C3D493.2020407@redhat.com> Hi > >However, the messages from the RedHat Mailman does not contain ANY >Reply-To header AT ALL... > >IMO someone should add that, it should end all this maddness > > Reply to headers are set on specific mailing lists but not others. So its not Red Hat wide but list specific. I do think we need a global policy on it but apparently there isnt consensus on this. -- Rahul Fedora Bug Triaging - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers From tejasdinkar at gmail.com Tue Jan 10 15:50:28 2006 From: tejasdinkar at gmail.com (Tejas Dinkar) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 21:20:28 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] I got you, babe In-Reply-To: <43C3D493.2020407@redhat.com> References: <7f617d270601100659l6ba9da9scd376c8b51a6064a@mail.gmail.com> <1136906884.13492.5.camel@linuxbox> <43C3D493.2020407@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1136908228.13492.12.camel@linuxbox> On Tue, 2006-01-10 at 21:06 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Reply to headers are set on specific mailing lists but not others. Another Reason that this bugs the heck out of me is this: If someone CCs me in the Message, as is what happens when someone clicks reply-all, the mail is NOT filtered by my mail client, and ends up in the wrong places. Now if this is already in place, it should be easy to apply to this list. There are already many people who are falling for sending people mails in person... Gja From sankarshan.mukhopadhyay at gmail.com Tue Jan 10 15:55:44 2006 From: sankarshan.mukhopadhyay at gmail.com (Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 21:25:44 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] I got you, babe In-Reply-To: <1136908228.13492.12.camel@linuxbox> References: <7f617d270601100659l6ba9da9scd376c8b51a6064a@mail.gmail.com> <1136906884.13492.5.camel@linuxbox> <43C3D493.2020407@redhat.com> <1136908228.13492.12.camel@linuxbox> Message-ID: <43C3D900.7090104@gmail.com> Tejas Dinkar wrote: > Now if this is already in place, it should be easy to apply to this > list. You know that it is very easy to sort of crib about how things are being set up :) The short and sweet story might be (and please note the might) that the ListAdmin (for his/her own particular reason) did not wish to fiddle around with the defaults on the mailman that he/she had at hand. In my professional capacity I have to manage some mailing lists which use the same mailman version and have the same default settings and the only way I figured out that things could be less borked for end users is that in the beginning remind them as to how the Reply and the Reply-To-All worked. If you can spare some time : o http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html o http://www.metasystema.net/essays/reply-to.mhtml I little bit of care when using MUA does go a long way. Regards Sankarshan -- You see things; and you say 'Why?'; But I dream things that never were; and I say 'Why not?' - George Bernard Shaw From roozbeh at farsiweb.info Tue Jan 10 15:58:51 2006 From: roozbeh at farsiweb.info (Roozbeh Pournader) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 19:28:51 +0330 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Meeting Reminder In-Reply-To: References: <43BCE411.8050902@n-man.com> <7f617d270601050542t71d8a543p9acf2ecde0d7b2eb@mail.gmail.com> <200601051153.06294.c_tosta@terra.com.br> Message-ID: <1136908731.3189.78.camel@tameshk.farsiweb.info> On Tue, 2006-01-10 at 10:05 -0500, Greg DeKoenigsberg wrote: > Ubuntu rotates all of their important meetings: > First meeting 0h GMT > Second meeting 6h GMT > Third meeting 12h GMT > Fourth meeting 18h GMT > > What do you think? Smart or insane? Well, I can catch three out of four then, instead of one out of two. So it's an improvement. Thursdays (and Fridays) are also a problem for the Ambassadors to the Muslim countries, as it is an equivalent of Saturdays (and Sundays) in the secular or Christian countries. roozbeh From sankarshan.mukhopadhyay at gmail.com Tue Jan 10 15:57:26 2006 From: sankarshan.mukhopadhyay at gmail.com (Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 21:27:26 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] I got you, babe In-Reply-To: <43C3D900.7090104@gmail.com> References: <7f617d270601100659l6ba9da9scd376c8b51a6064a@mail.gmail.com> <1136906884.13492.5.camel@linuxbox> <43C3D493.2020407@redhat.com> <1136908228.13492.12.camel@linuxbox> <43C3D900.7090104@gmail.com> Message-ID: <43C3D966.2050509@gmail.com> Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay wrote: > I little bit of care when using MUA does go a long way. Read the above line as a *A little bit of care...* Apologies to one and all. Rgds SM -- You see things; and you say 'Why?'; But I dream things that never were; and I say 'Why not?' - George Bernard Shaw From roozbeh at farsiweb.info Tue Jan 10 16:01:47 2006 From: roozbeh at farsiweb.info (Roozbeh Pournader) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 19:31:47 +0330 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] I got you, babe In-Reply-To: <1136906884.13492.5.camel@linuxbox> References: <7f617d270601100659l6ba9da9scd376c8b51a6064a@mail.gmail.com> <1136906884.13492.5.camel@linuxbox> Message-ID: <1136908907.3189.80.camel@tameshk.farsiweb.info> On Tue, 2006-01-10 at 20:58 +0530, Tejas Dinkar wrote: > However, the messages from the RedHat Mailman does not contain ANY > Reply-To header AT ALL... The Fedora Extras mailing list has the Reply-To header, and people (including me) consider it broken. roozbeh From sundaram at redhat.com Tue Jan 10 16:07:55 2006 From: sundaram at redhat.com (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 21:37:55 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] I got you, babe In-Reply-To: <1136908907.3189.80.camel@tameshk.farsiweb.info> References: <7f617d270601100659l6ba9da9scd376c8b51a6064a@mail.gmail.com> <1136906884.13492.5.camel@linuxbox> <1136908907.3189.80.camel@tameshk.farsiweb.info> Message-ID: <43C3DBDB.2030707@redhat.com> Roozbeh Pournader wrote: >On Tue, 2006-01-10 at 20:58 +0530, Tejas Dinkar wrote: > > >>However, the messages from the RedHat Mailman does not contain ANY >>Reply-To header AT ALL... >> >> > >The Fedora Extras mailing list has the Reply-To header, and people >(including me) consider it broken. > >roozbeh > > Problem with the current scenario is that there is no project wide policy on this. Either way would piss of some people who consider the alternative the One True Way (TM) but atleast we will be consistent about this. -- Rahul Fedora Bug Triaging - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers From roozbeh at farsiweb.info Tue Jan 10 16:10:26 2006 From: roozbeh at farsiweb.info (Roozbeh Pournader) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 19:40:26 +0330 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Mono in Fedora Message-ID: <1136909426.3189.87.camel@tameshk.farsiweb.info> I am getting questions left and right from colleagues about what really happened with Mono. Were we spreading FUD when we were telling people that it has hidden legal problems and Fedora can't really use it? I feel that I will hear more of these questions as an Ambassador, people asking me what the @#$% happened. To quote Seth Vidal from irc: "[this] makes those of us who have been saying 'fedora can't have mono' look foolish". I guess we somehow need to explain this to people, and we don't have enough information for that. Ideas? Roozbeh From sundaram at redhat.com Tue Jan 10 16:36:21 2006 From: sundaram at redhat.com (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 22:06:21 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Mono in Fedora In-Reply-To: <1136909426.3189.87.camel@tameshk.farsiweb.info> References: <1136909426.3189.87.camel@tameshk.farsiweb.info> Message-ID: <43C3E285.9060705@redhat.com> Roozbeh Pournader wrote: >I am getting questions left and right from colleagues about what really >happened with Mono. Were we spreading FUD when we were telling people >that it has hidden legal problems and Fedora can't really use it? > > I dont think you will get any additional details here other than the ones that can be discussed in any of the other public lists which is pretty limited. The best explanation. (which is admittedly hazy ) you can probably get is this - http://www.0xdeadbeef.com/?p=159 Anything legal or business sensitive is probably going to remain a blackbox communicated from the counsel/project members to the community in a abrupt manner. The project on the whole cannot act on community consensus on this as compared to the other coding and development issues since the laws a defy "common sense" in many occasions. If you have any ideas on how to communicate better taking into consideration the legal (litigation happy industry and region) as well as business concerns, I am all ears. >I feel that I will hear more of these questions as an Ambassador, people >asking me what the @#$% happened. To quote Seth Vidal from irc: "[this] >makes those of us who have been saying 'fedora can't have mono' look >foolish". > >I guess we somehow need to explain this to people, and we don't have >enough information for that. > >Ideas? > > Any explanation you can come up with is as good as mine, seriously. -- Rahul Fedora Bug Triaging - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers From gdk at redhat.com Tue Jan 10 16:40:28 2006 From: gdk at redhat.com (Greg DeKoenigsberg) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 11:40:28 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Fwd: FW: XE: 2005/6 In-Reply-To: <43C2595F.1020403@redhat.com> References: <7f617d270601040910ob944a6fxf29ab51b25146532@mail.gmail.com> <20060106145953.52912.qmail@web26515.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <7f617d270601080348o3d8c84aby2b95991b1129bf34@mail.gmail.com> <43C10361.8050307@gmail.com> <7f617d270601080432p4abe223ax9f6047f1c7aad31@mail.gmail.com> <43C118C1.2080203@gmail.com> <7f617d270601080943u7e5b6471r14c591cebaf58d49@mail.gmail.com> <43C2595F.1020403@redhat.com> Message-ID: The urge to make an uncharitable remark about one of your family members is *nearly* overwhelming -- but not quite. :) --g --------------------------------------------------------------- Greg DeKoenigsberg || Fedora Foundation || fedoraproject.org Be an Ambassador || http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors --------------------------------------------------------------- On Mon, 9 Jan 2006, Joshua Wulf wrote: > Slightly OT, but does anyone know where I can pick up a case of Cialis, > cheap? > > --josh > > Alex Maier wrote: > > Whatever it is guys, it is spam, I will ignore messages from this guy > > from now on. > > Thanks everyone for your help, > > Alex > > > > On 1/8/06, REDbyte Labs wrote: > > > >> Really puzzling table, it seems to me that it is some kind of table > >> for statistic purposes. Showing usage of different web servers by > >> large companies > >> > >> 2006/1/8, Tejas Dinkar : > >> > >>> Alex Maier wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>>> /me feels better :) > >>>> > >>>> thanks guys! > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> Maybe he just sent it to the wrong person... > >>> > >>> Now lets see.... I bet he just clicked the wrong address in the to address. > >>> > >>> Now what might be right next to fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > >>> (alphabetically) > >>> > >>> *gasp* > >>> > >>> he was sending a list of IPs to the FBI!!!!!! > >>> > >>> /me gets paranoid!!! > >>> > >>> Gja > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > >>> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > >>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > >>> > >>> > >> -- > >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > >> > >> > > > > > > -- > > Check out the new content on Fedora Project page! http://fedoraproject.org > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > From gdk at redhat.com Tue Jan 10 16:49:03 2006 From: gdk at redhat.com (Greg DeKoenigsberg) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 11:49:03 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Info In-Reply-To: <43C2688A.2020801@redhat.com> References: <43C2688A.2020801@redhat.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 9 Jan 2006, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > I am sure similar efforts can be done for other regions too if not > already. This might be one of the key areas where better advocacy > targeting the top level decision makers is required. A grassroots > approach tends to fail. Students in general have no say in what the > College/School administration decides. Even if they personally choose > Linux, it might not impact their career as long as the education is > rooted in learning proprietary products instead of underlying concepts. +1 > That we should invest is obvious. The harder part is deciding to invest > where it makes a high impact. This is where local ambassadors who better > understand the regional culture and requirements better can make a big > difference. That means all of the Fedora ambassadors here have to step > up to the needful. +1 "Linux in education" is a great idea in theory. In practice, it's an *extremely* political exercise. Still, all ideas are better than no ideas. --g --------------------------------------------------------------- Greg DeKoenigsberg || Fedora Foundation || fedoraproject.org Be an Ambassador || http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors --------------------------------------------------------------- From chitlesh at gmail.com Tue Jan 10 14:58:38 2006 From: chitlesh at gmail.com (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 15:58:38 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] How can i upload file to my wiki home page? In-Reply-To: <8e1ee2a30601100623rd6b7b50hd1a72be907aff69b@mail.gmail.com> References: <8e1ee2a30601100623rd6b7b50hd1a72be907aff69b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0601100658o11ffe9d0j2ff1a7ef7e6cf6d9@mail.gmail.com> On 1/10/06, Nayyar Ahmed wrote: > Hi, > > How can i upload some files to my > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/nayyares page, as i am going to conduct > a workshop soon on fedora project and i will upload slides/handouts > etc. to this. where you need to expose your file add this attachment:FILENAME secondly I thought http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/NayyarAhmad was your official page instead of http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/nayyares keep your personal items as a subfile instead leaving them roaming in the dark. :) -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com From fedora at leemhuis.info Tue Jan 10 17:03:35 2006 From: fedora at leemhuis.info (Thorsten Leemhuis) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 18:03:35 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] I got you, babe In-Reply-To: <43C3DBDB.2030707@redhat.com> References: <7f617d270601100659l6ba9da9scd376c8b51a6064a@mail.gmail.com> <1136906884.13492.5.camel@linuxbox> <1136908907.3189.80.camel@tameshk.farsiweb.info> <43C3DBDB.2030707@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1136912616.2687.18.camel@localhost.localdomain> Am Dienstag, den 10.01.2006, 21:37 +0530 schrieb Rahul Sundaram: > Roozbeh Pournader wrote: > >On Tue, 2006-01-10 at 20:58 +0530, Tejas Dinkar wrote: > > > >>However, the messages from the RedHat Mailman does not contain ANY > >>Reply-To header AT ALL... > > > >The Fedora Extras mailing list has the Reply-To header, and people > >(including me) consider it broken. > > > Problem with the current scenario is that there is no project wide > policy on this. And that's IMHO a problem. I'm used to click on "Reply" for nearly all fedora-lists; but this is one of those few that is different. I nearly send two mails directly to people instead of to the list due to this. But no Reply-to munging IMHO this is the correct way. Sankarshan gave the links to http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html http://www.metasystema.net/essays/reply-to.mhtml already, I'll do it once more because it is cheap ;-) > Either way would piss of some people who consider the > alternative the One True Way (TM) but atleast we will be consistent > about this. Agreed. /me modifies "To:" of this mail because /me accidentally clicked on "reply" to generate this mail, too. -- Thorsten Leemhuis From gdk at redhat.com Tue Jan 10 17:09:18 2006 From: gdk at redhat.com (Greg DeKoenigsberg) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 12:09:18 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Fedora Mirrors In-Reply-To: <9590b2a80601091000s38c76c6fk9bd4f96e47fd90ca@mail.gmail.com> References: <1136820725.5524.9.camel@linuxbox> <9590b2a80601091000s38c76c6fk9bd4f96e47fd90ca@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 9 Jan 2006, Thijs wrote: > > Hi Tejas, > > It's of course nice if an Ambassadors can get FC5 earlier, but, how many > times does it happen that you need FC5 exactly on the release date? And is > it really important for spreading Fedora - the goal of being an Ambassador ? > > (The following is not directly related to Tejas' message, but it are just my > thoughts) We should watch out that we don't become a special "privileged" > group. Ambassadors are normal people. I don't think we should be able to get > FC5 earlier, just for our own fun. It is in the interest of the "image" (if > that's the right word) of the Ambassadors and The Fedora Project. > > - Thijs I disagree. A good Ambassador does work to spread and promote Fedora. The people who are willing to go out of their way to spread the word should be rewarded, with status if nothing else. There's nothing elitist about it, though -- unless hard work is elitist. And Thijs, when you say that Ambassadors are normal people, that's true in a sense -- but normal people who take strong leadership roles become extraordinary, by choice. Nothing prevents someone from being an Ambassador, and those who choose to work should be rewarded. As far as mirrors for Ambassadors -- interesting idea, but I think we achieve the same effect if we have rolling "Fedora release parties" within a month of the release. --g --------------------------------------------------------------- Greg DeKoenigsberg || Fedora Foundation || fedoraproject.org Be an Ambassador || http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors --------------------------------------------------------------- From roozbeh at farsiweb.info Tue Jan 10 17:21:42 2006 From: roozbeh at farsiweb.info (Roozbeh Pournader) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 20:51:42 +0330 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Mono in Fedora In-Reply-To: <43C3E285.9060705@redhat.com> References: <1136909426.3189.87.camel@tameshk.farsiweb.info> <43C3E285.9060705@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1136913703.3189.97.camel@tameshk.farsiweb.info> On Tue, 2006-01-10 at 22:06 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > I dont think you will get any additional details here other than the > ones that can be discussed in any of the other public lists which is > pretty limited. The best explanation. (which is admittedly hazy ) you > can probably get is this - http://www.0xdeadbeef.com/?p=159 Thanks a lot, but I wasn't really asking for details from Red Hat insiders. I am mostly asking non-core people for ideas on how to present this change of policy to people. > Anything legal or business sensitive is probably going to remain a > blackbox communicated from the counsel/project members to the community > in a abrupt manner. That is understandable. > The project on the whole cannot act on community > consensus on this as compared to the other coding and development issues > since the laws a defy "common sense" in many occasions. I also understand that. > If you have any > ideas on how to communicate better taking into consideration the legal > (litigation happy industry and region) as well as business concerns, I > am all ears. I have absolutely no clue. My question is not really about "What happened?" but about "How do you think we should explain this?" I'm not nagging or teasing for more insider information. roozbeh From tejasdinkar at gmail.com Tue Jan 10 17:32:07 2006 From: tejasdinkar at gmail.com (Tejas Dinkar) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 23:02:07 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Mono in Fedora In-Reply-To: <1136913703.3189.97.camel@tameshk.farsiweb.info> References: <1136909426.3189.87.camel@tameshk.farsiweb.info> <43C3E285.9060705@redhat.com> <1136913703.3189.97.camel@tameshk.farsiweb.info> Message-ID: <1136914327.30659.3.camel@linuxbox> On Tue, 2006-01-10 at 20:51 +0330, Roozbeh Pournader wrote: > Thanks a lot, but I wasn't really asking for details from Red Hat > insiders. I am mostly asking non-core people for ideas on how to present > this change of policy to people. Here is exactly what was on the Forbidden Items wiki till a few days ago: Mono packages are not currently included due to potential legal issues. (Pending more input.) so we haven't really changed our policy. We hadn't decided on a policy before, and now we have decided to allow mono to pass From chitlesh at gmail.com Tue Jan 10 15:15:21 2006 From: chitlesh at gmail.com (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 16:15:21 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] meeting notes fedora ambassadors January 5, 14:00 UTC In-Reply-To: <7f617d270601100704k43dd89ecn8da968c28873f81d@mail.gmail.com> References: <7f617d270601100704k43dd89ecn8da968c28873f81d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0601100715x5e8fb680r159bd8d874464a1b@mail.gmail.com> > Suggested Events: > -LinuxTag in Wiesbaden www.linuxtag.de ? GeroldKa: > -BjornAndersen: http://linuxforum.dk/2006/ > > DVDs and make em a copy of Fc > -live DVD or CDs (Our LiveCD project need more help from us) > -http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Kadischi > -Maybe post a request for a lead developer to fedora-devel-list or > an article in FWN can help > -you could ask one of these guys: > http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/DerivedDistributions/LiveCDs are we having a FUDCon in Wiesbaden? if yes, I might be available as i said before for a conf about the live cd project. -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com From gdk at redhat.com Tue Jan 10 18:26:06 2006 From: gdk at redhat.com (Greg DeKoenigsberg) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 13:26:06 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Meeting Reminder In-Reply-To: <7f617d270601100732o2ee6d165x97ee41cdae5ffddc@mail.gmail.com> References: <43BCE411.8050902@n-man.com> <7f617d270601050542t71d8a543p9acf2ecde0d7b2eb@mail.gmail.com> <200601051153.06294.c_tosta@terra.com.br> <7f617d270601100732o2ee6d165x97ee41cdae5ffddc@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Point taken, Alex. :) --g --------------------------------------------------------------- Greg DeKoenigsberg || Fedora Foundation || fedoraproject.org Be an Ambassador || http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors --------------------------------------------------------------- On Tue, 10 Jan 2006, Alex Maier wrote: > I'd say it is insane until we have our Steering Committee distributed > enough for at least one member to attend and lead each meeting. > > Also, with the Ambassadors so far abstaining from meetings a lot, I do > not konw whether I would like to get up early or stay up late just to > meet with the usual highly committed folks who would also discuss on > the list and participate in most meetings. > > Further, most Ambassadors seem to be oblivious of meeting times, even > though we only have two. If we will have four or more, we will only > increase confusion. > > Otherwise it might be worth at considering ;) > a > > On 1/10/06, Greg DeKoenigsberg wrote: > > > > Ubuntu has some good ideas here, and where possible, I like to steal good > > ideas. :) > > > > Ubuntu rotates all of their important meetings: > > First meeting 0h GMT > > Second meeting 6h GMT > > Third meeting 12h GMT > > Fourth meeting 18h GMT > > > > What do you think? Smart or insane? > > > > --g > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > Greg DeKoenigsberg || Fedora Foundation || fedoraproject.org > > Be an Ambassador || http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > On Thu, 5 Jan 2006, Christian Tosta wrote: > > > > > Alex, > > > > > > the meeting timings is not so good for me and other brazilians ambassadors, > > > because 14:00 UTC is just the middle of working time here in Brazil (and > > > lunch time). The best alternative timings for us is 22:00 UTC or 00:00 UTC. > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > Tosta. > > > > > > Em Quinta 05 Janeiro 2006 11:42, Alex Maier escreveu: > > > > A quick reminder to all newbies and inactive Ambassadors: > > > > participating in meetings brings you carma points, and I would like to > > > > encourage you to participate today--and every Thursday, as far as > > > > possible. > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > Alex > > > > > > > > On 1/5/06, Patrick Barnes wrote: > > > > > Just a quick reminder that we have a meeting coming up in a few hours! > > > > > > > > > > For details and for the meeting time in your timezone, visit > > > > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings > > > > > > > > > > I look forward to seeing you all there! > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Patrick "The N-Man" Barnes > > > > > nman64 at n-man.com > > > > > > > > > > http://www.n-man.com/ > > > > > -- > > > > > Have I been helpful? Rate my assistance! http://rate.affero.net/nman64/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > > > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > > > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Check out the new content on Fedora Project page! http://fedoraproject.org > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > > -- > > > =========================================== > > > Christian Tosta > > > Gerente de Suporte > > > Comjota Inform?tica e Servi?os Ltda > > > MSN: eletric_eyes at hotmail.com > > > ICQ: 23229858 > > > =========================================== > > > > > > -- > > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > -- > Check out the new content on Fedora Project page! http://fedoraproject.org > From gdk at redhat.com Tue Jan 10 18:31:01 2006 From: gdk at redhat.com (Greg DeKoenigsberg) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 13:31:01 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Mono in Fedora In-Reply-To: <1136909426.3189.87.camel@tameshk.farsiweb.info> References: <1136909426.3189.87.camel@tameshk.farsiweb.info> Message-ID: The Fedora Foundation board is working on a positioning statement. That's all I can say for now. We know it's painful. --g --------------------------------------------------------------- Greg DeKoenigsberg || Fedora Foundation || fedoraproject.org Be an Ambassador || http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors --------------------------------------------------------------- On Tue, 10 Jan 2006, Roozbeh Pournader wrote: > I am getting questions left and right from colleagues about what really > happened with Mono. Were we spreading FUD when we were telling people > that it has hidden legal problems and Fedora can't really use it? > > I feel that I will hear more of these questions as an Ambassador, people > asking me what the @#$% happened. To quote Seth Vidal from irc: "[this] > makes those of us who have been saying 'fedora can't have mono' look > foolish". > > I guess we somehow need to explain this to people, and we don't have > enough information for that. > > Ideas? > > Roozbeh > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > From Frederic.Hornain at GB.BE Tue Jan 10 20:39:49 2006 From: Frederic.Hornain at GB.BE (Hornain Frederic) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 21:39:49 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] meeting notes fedora ambassadors January5, 14:00 UTC Message-ID: Dear Alex, Dear all, I have got three remarks about what you have written - see below -. Well, the first one is : Concerning the presentation slides, I make you noticed you can retreive few slides at the following URL : http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/Slides In addition, I will create few one cause I need it to do little events. The second one is : You have mentioned that every ambassador should have their own fedora.redhat.com email address. Then, they would be changed to x at fedoraproject.org However, I do not think that I have one. Due to the fact that it did not exist any mean to create one when I registred myself to the ambassador list. The third one. You did not give us any status about buisness cards even it is in the to do list. Ok, it is priority 3. But in the next weeks, I am going to go to an HP it.exec lunch meeting on Unix migration to Linux - www.hp.be/itexecFR ( sorry but this page is in french ) -. And during this kind of event, it is very useful to have buisness cards in order to tell to companies, futurs custommers that we exist. Thanks. Finally, if you have any remarks, feel free to contact me. Best Regards Fred -- "Linux? You can get a less powerful system, but it will cost you more." -- Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list -----Original Message----- From: fedora-ambassadors-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:fedora-ambassadors-list-bounces at redhat.com]On Behalf Of Alex Maier Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 4:05 PM To: Ambassadors List Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] meeting notes fedora ambassadors January5, 14:00 UTC Next meeting is Thursday Jan 12, 2006, 22:00 UTC recorded by RobertWhetsel House keeping: For the first 30 days the status of a newbie Ambassador will be "on probation" during which time they have a chance to prove themselves to the group by contributing to the project (see Ideas below). During the time on probation, the new Ambassador would not normally be able to request money or materials from the project. Exceptions can be made in extraordinary cases. If a person already actively contributing to another project. Off topic(OT) when an agenda is listed on we need to strictly follow it. This allows for accurate meting minutes(mm), and clear action items. We have had two meeting in the last two weeks and we have basicly re-answered the same questions with the same answers as last time. Our Goal should be clear; "Kick Gates in the nuts; further the open source cause and promote Fedora Core". This can only be accomplished if we are able to have achievable tasks that brings us closer to our goal (see last sentence). We need to choose the next meeting time and the next SC to run the meeting and do the minutes. Priority 1: Review upcoming owner: amaier events standing item Review the FedoraEvents. Make sure they're correct. Make sure we've got ambassadors covering them. Review these every week. Note the calendar at: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/event/ for all events: Does an event have anything to do with Fedora? -No any venue will do Anybody can add an event if they volunteer to go there or think it is important -We need to review the requests next week and hit the high points -If we review events early we can commit resources and maybe take advantage of free stalls, A talk, An install fest, etc... Suggested Events: -LinuxTag in Wiesbaden www.linuxtag.de ? GeroldKa: -BjornAndersen: http://linuxforum.dk/2006/ tchung's report on scale Gareth Greenway from SCALE contacted us regarding 3 full passes He wanted me to give him a list of guest who wll attend the SCALE. I've already gave Warren Togami and two other contacts. See .org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/SCALE BTW, please note the location *has been* changed due to some issue. More detail will be published in my next issue of FWN. Do we have a check list of what we would want or need for an event or a plan to promote fedora -handout DVD's to visitors -bring a machine with a CD burner... tell people to brng their own DVDs and make em a copy of Fc -live DVD or CDs (Our LiveCD project need more help from us) -http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Kadischi -Maybe post a request for a lead developer to fedora-devel-list or an article in FWN can help -you could ask one of these guys: http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/DerivedDistributions/LiveCDs Action Items: -SOP for adding event- unassigned -SC will put a watch on the page - need volunteer -Add GNUify to events - mether: -We need an Ambassador to volunteer to take a lead on coordinating events on the wiki and reporting to the SC. - need volunteer Priority 2: Schwag pipeline: amaier Need to make sure that the schwag pipeline is functional. This is separate from the actual stuff we send; this is just making sure that the stuff we send actually gets to the places it needs to go. What is Schwag? -T-Shirts, DVD's, Red Hat Boxes, T-Shirts, DvD, hats, coffee mugs, etc.. or any other free stuff that has our logo or promotes our cause How do I get Schwag? -The idea is for jwulf et al to build some tools that will funnel orders straight to the fulfillment system. -not answered When can I get Schwag? -not answered How long doe it take to get Schwag? -The schwag "pipeline" is, realistically, going to be more of a schwag "trickle" until February. -not answered What Schwag is available? -Design is scheduled to be complete end of next week -Shirts are supposed to be available in the US in late January -We're down to our last 1000 DVDs for FC4, and we don't have budget to burn more until FC5- Where does the Schwag come From? -DVDs, looking at FC5 for some truly *massive* numbers -- pricing 50 to 100k DVDs, and looking at prices for drop-shipping lots of 500 worldwide. -For DVDs, irrelevant. Whoever gives us the best price and shipping in the region. mattwebb's decision. -not answered Priority 2: Email addresses at fedoraproject.org: sopwith I know that Seth and Elliot are working on a good way to streamline this process and make it part of the account system and/or the wiki, but we need to keep up with it here. Meanwhile fill the required information on http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Emails Basically, there is nothing you need to do right now. We have control over fedoraproject.org DNS now, and the next step is to change the e-mail processing setup for that domain. Once that happens, all the aliases that currently appear @fedora.redhat.com should also appear @fedoraproject.org, and that will be it. Integration is happening so that anyone with an account in the f.r.c account system will have a fp.o address. fedoraproject.org aliases are not yet available. If you create your account now, you will get your fedora.redhat.com alias now and the fedoraproject.org alias will be added as soon as they are available. -Someone is actually working on a mainling list for SC -who -As a suggestion: anyone can post TO the SC mailing list, but only SC members can read the mails Action Items: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Emails Someone (who) audit this and I'll forward a request to skvidal to make this work for now. - gregdek_home Priority 2: Funding for attendance: amaier We will continue to discuss funding options for shows. -sc will decide on which events will receive money Priority 2: Presentations for Ambassadors: amaier We need to provide Ambassadors with some slide decks for various presentations. We should probably aggregate the ones we already have and make them available. We should also figure out our policy for licensing these presentations! -Can Presentations: Should consist of multiple smaller categories that an Ambassador could pick from as presentation time allows. Example or topics: FUD Fear Uncertainty & Doubt Defining Open Source What is the Open Source Development Process Linux History RedHat History What is the Fedora project -History -Players -Community Environment -Current Projects -Future Plans -template: people.redhat.com/sundaram/Fedora.sxi this is a good start -model: download the topics, apply either your own template or the fedora template... but if you use your own template, ping the list with it -We do need to keep all contributions covered under the right licensing scheme -a CLA might be necessary Action Items: -We need an Ambassador to volunteer to take a lead on coordinating the template for presentations- abompard -SOP for content review process ? RobertWhetsel will put it on my wiki for review before final commitment -rwhetsel will be releasing his lectures under the Open Business Foundation and make available to Fedora's Ambassadors free and open use after Company's legal clears request -- Check out the new content on Fedora Project page! http://fedoraproject.org -- Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list From nman64 at n-man.com Tue Jan 10 22:28:40 2006 From: nman64 at n-man.com (Patrick Barnes) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 16:28:40 -0600 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] meeting notes fedora ambassadors January5, 14:00 UTC In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <43C43518.9080807@n-man.com> Hornain Frederic wrote: > The second one is : > You have mentioned that every ambassador should have their own fedora.redhat.com email address. Then, they would be changed to x at fedoraproject.org > However, I do not think that I have one. Due to the fact that it did not exist any mean to create one when I registred myself to the ambassador list. > > > To get your alias, you need to create an account in the Fedora Account System and request membership in the 'ambassadors' group. When the fedoraproject.org aliases become available, you will have an alias at both domains. The name of your alias will be based upon your username in the Account System. That alias will forward to the email address you select in the Account System. As part of the process, you will need to sign the Contributor License Agreement, which makes certain that your contributions to the project are properly licensed to keep all Fedora materials free and open source. The freshest details about the email aliases is available at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Emails Information about the Fedora Account System can be found at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/AccountSystem -- Patrick "The N-Man" Barnes nman64 at n-man.com http://www.n-man.com/ -- Have I been helpful? Rate my assistance! http://rate.affero.net/nman64/ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From lxmaier at gmail.com Tue Jan 10 16:40:29 2006 From: lxmaier at gmail.com (Alex Maier) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 11:40:29 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] I got you, babe In-Reply-To: <43C3DBDB.2030707@redhat.com> References: <7f617d270601100659l6ba9da9scd376c8b51a6064a@mail.gmail.com> <1136906884.13492.5.camel@linuxbox> <1136908907.3189.80.camel@tameshk.farsiweb.info> <43C3DBDB.2030707@redhat.com> Message-ID: <7f617d270601100840w728467cg1f56f1c1a96ae863@mail.gmail.com> I have set the "reply-to" option to this list. Cheers, a On 1/10/06, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Roozbeh Pournader wrote: > > >On Tue, 2006-01-10 at 20:58 +0530, Tejas Dinkar wrote: > > > > > >>However, the messages from the RedHat Mailman does not contain ANY > >>Reply-To header AT ALL... > >> > >> > > > >The Fedora Extras mailing list has the Reply-To header, and people > >(including me) consider it broken. > > > >roozbeh > > > > > Problem with the current scenario is that there is no project wide > policy on this. Either way would piss of some people who consider the > alternative the One True Way (TM) but atleast we will be consistent > about this. > > -- > Rahul > > Fedora Bug Triaging - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- Check out the new content on Fedora Project page! http://fedoraproject.org From tejasdinkar at gmail.com Wed Jan 11 14:46:34 2006 From: tejasdinkar at gmail.com (Tejas Dinkar) Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 20:16:34 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] meeting notes fedora ambassadors January 5, 14:00 UTC In-Reply-To: <7f617d270601100704k43dd89ecn8da968c28873f81d@mail.gmail.com> References: <7f617d270601100704k43dd89ecn8da968c28873f81d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1136990794.4084.13.camel@linuxbox> On Tue, 2006-01-10 at 10:04 -0500, Alex Maier wrote: > Next meeting is Thursday Jan 12, 2006, 22:00 UTC eeps!! That means 4am my time!! I might be a bit groggy even if I could make it. Sorry, i'll have to sit this one out Till next time Gja From chitlesh at gmail.com Wed Jan 11 17:24:29 2006 From: chitlesh at gmail.com (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 18:24:29 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Re: [Fedora-livecd-list] Fedora Core Ofiicial LiveCD and DVD media In-Reply-To: <43C53DAF.5030905@adelphia.net> References: <43C53DAF.5030905@adelphia.net> Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0601110924v147dbde5q44b7a102dafc4af2@mail.gmail.com> I think the Ambassadors are mostly concerned here. That is why im forwarding this mail to the Ambassadors list. If any ambassador has a Live CD created by Kadischi, please do spread the word about "Kadischi". Ive noticed that in the slide there isn't Kadischi. On 1/11/06, J. Hartline wrote: > I'm willing to take the time out here to build anything the Fedora > Project needs with kadischi, within > my bounds of course. If you need LiveCD and LiveDVD images, provide a > package list or some sort of information > in what should be on it at least. A seemingly generic LiveCD to me I > would think would be a Workstation type install, but I do believe that > stretches the bounds of 650/700MB medias. > > -- > Fedora-livecd-list mailing list > Fedora-livecd-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-livecd-list > -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com From kevinverma at gmail.com Wed Jan 11 18:07:16 2006 From: kevinverma at gmail.com (Kevin Verma) Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 23:37:16 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Introducing myself, Anuj Verma alias Kevin Message-ID: Hello Everyone at Fedora Project, Before I introduce myself, first of all I will like to thank you all to have me have an opportunity to be an ambassador for Fedora Project at India. Fedora team is highly encouraging and a very dedicated team of superior software developers, packagers and testers, filled with innovation and values of Open Source. I have started using Red Hat Linux back in 1999. I've been a full time Sys Admin at couple of organizations since year 2000, and for last three years I am working as a contractor for Red Hat and partners across Asia, supporting Red Hat Learning Services. To me Fedora is a very important project to test and experience the upcoming technology. I am very hopeful to deliver fair and balanced contribution, due on my part to the Fedora Project. Many Thanks, Kevin Verma From sundaram at redhat.com Wed Jan 11 18:12:36 2006 From: sundaram at redhat.com (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 23:42:36 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Introducing myself, Anuj Verma alias Kevin In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <43C54A94.6090900@redhat.com> Kevin Verma wrote: >Hello Everyone at Fedora Project, > >Before I introduce myself, first of all I will like to thank you all >to have me have an opportunity to be an ambassador for Fedora Project >at India. Fedora team is highly encouraging and a very dedicated team >of superior software developers, packagers and testers, filled with >innovation and values of Open Source. > >I have started using Red Hat Linux back in 1999. I've been a full time >Sys Admin at couple of organizations since year 2000, and for last >three years I am working as a contractor for Red Hat and partners >across Asia, supporting Red Hat Learning Services. > >To me Fedora is a very important project to test and experience the >upcoming technology. I am very hopeful to deliver fair and balanced >contribution, due on my part to the Fedora Project. > >Many Thanks, >Kevin Verma > > Welcome to the Ambassadors team Kevin. More diversity and numbers within the project will help us drive it forward in different directions. Full speed ahead inmates. -- Rahul Fedora Bug Triaging - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers From sundaram at redhat.com Wed Jan 11 19:36:14 2006 From: sundaram at redhat.com (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 01:06:14 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Mono in Fedora In-Reply-To: <1136913703.3189.97.camel@tameshk.farsiweb.info> References: <1136909426.3189.87.camel@tameshk.farsiweb.info> <43C3E285.9060705@redhat.com> <1136913703.3189.97.camel@tameshk.farsiweb.info> Message-ID: <43C55E2E.2000303@redhat.com> Hi >I have absolutely no clue. My question is not really about "What >happened?" but about "How do you think we should explain this?" I'm not >nagging or teasing for more insider information. > >roozbeh > > > It was considered as a open issue (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraLegalIssues) and now it has been decided upon conclusively is one way to convey it. -- Rahul Fedora Bug Triaging - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers From gdk at redhat.com Wed Jan 11 19:42:01 2006 From: gdk at redhat.com (Greg DeKoenigsberg) Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 14:42:01 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Mono in Fedora: Messaging In-Reply-To: <43C55E2E.2000303@redhat.com> References: <1136909426.3189.87.camel@tameshk.farsiweb.info> <43C3E285.9060705@redhat.com> <1136913703.3189.97.camel@tameshk.farsiweb.info> <43C55E2E.2000303@redhat.com> Message-ID: Ambassadors, As much as I hate to say this, we cannot yet comment on this in any detail. Your official answer is this: "Business considerations that prevented Mono from being included previously have now been resolved." That's the only official answer available. For now. --g --------------------------------------------------------------- Greg DeKoenigsberg || Fedora Foundation || fedoraproject.org Be an Ambassador || http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors --------------------------------------------------------------- On Thu, 12 Jan 2006, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Hi > > >I have absolutely no clue. My question is not really about "What > >happened?" but about "How do you think we should explain this?" I'm not > >nagging or teasing for more insider information. > > > >roozbeh > > > > > > > It was considered as a open issue > (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraLegalIssues) and now it has been > decided upon conclusively is one way to convey it. > > -- > Rahul > > Fedora Bug Triaging - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > From halaba at o2.pl Wed Jan 11 20:00:38 2006 From: halaba at o2.pl (Merlin) Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 21:00:38 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Mono in Fedora: Messaging In-Reply-To: References: <1136909426.3189.87.camel@tameshk.farsiweb.info> <43C3E285.9060705@redhat.com> <1136913703.3189.97.camel@tameshk.farsiweb.info> <43C55E2E.2000303@redhat.com> Message-ID: <43C563E6.9000307@o2.pl> what KDE what have a FC5 oficiall?? From sundaram at redhat.com Wed Jan 11 20:22:10 2006 From: sundaram at redhat.com (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 01:52:10 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Mono in Fedora: Messaging In-Reply-To: <43C563E6.9000307@o2.pl> References: <1136909426.3189.87.camel@tameshk.farsiweb.info> <43C3E285.9060705@redhat.com> <1136913703.3189.97.camel@tameshk.farsiweb.info> <43C55E2E.2000303@redhat.com> <43C563E6.9000307@o2.pl> Message-ID: <43C568F2.9090508@redhat.com> Merlin wrote: > what KDE what have a FC5 oficiall?? > KDE 3.5 -- Rahul Fedora Bug Triaging - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers From gauret at free.fr Wed Jan 11 20:36:50 2006 From: gauret at free.fr (Aurelien Bompard) Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 21:36:50 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Mono in Fedora: Messaging In-Reply-To: References: <1136909426.3189.87.camel@tameshk.farsiweb.info> <43C55E2E.2000303@redhat.com> Message-ID: <200601112136.50680.gauret@free.fr> Le Mercredi 11 Janvier 2006 20:42, Greg DeKoenigsberg a ?crit : > "Business considerations that prevented Mono from being included > previously have now been resolved." > > That's the only official answer available. For now. To what people usually answer ? Yeah, so it really was a Mono-is-from-Novell-so-we-don't-include-it story, patents were just an excuse ?. I'd really like to prove them wrong, do you know if we will have more info some day, and if yes, when ? Thanks, and I understand you're not in a easy situation. As ambassadors, neither are we. Aur?lien -- http://aurelien.bompard.org ~~~~ Jabber : abompard at jabber.fr "Millions long for immortality who do not know what to do with themselves on a rainy Sunday afternoon." -- Susan Ertz From sundaram at redhat.com Wed Jan 11 20:52:47 2006 From: sundaram at redhat.com (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 02:22:47 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Mono in Fedora: Messaging In-Reply-To: <200601112136.50680.gauret@free.fr> References: <1136909426.3189.87.camel@tameshk.farsiweb.info> <43C55E2E.2000303@redhat.com> <200601112136.50680.gauret@free.fr> Message-ID: <43C5701F.5070005@redhat.com> Aurelien Bompard wrote: >Le Mercredi 11 Janvier 2006 20:42, Greg DeKoenigsberg a ?crit : > > >>"Business considerations that prevented Mono from being included >>previously have now been resolved." >> >>That's the only official answer available. For now. >> >> > >To what people usually answer ? Yeah, so it really was a >Mono-is-from-Novell-so-we-don't-include-it story, patents were just an >excuse ?. I'd really like to prove them wrong, do you know if we will have >more info some day, and if yes, when ? > > There is many stuff being developed primarily by Novell and included by Red Hat. Evolution for example and I could come up with countless examples everywhere right from kernel upto the GNOME stack for things developed by Red Hat and included in Novell, Sun, Apple etc. Libxml for example. Its not a dog vs cat fight. We can coordinate and compete in better terms.So its should be easy enough to dimiss silly speculations like that. Greg mentioned about a Fedora Foundation press that might provide more information and it unlikely to go much beyond that. -- Rahul Fedora Bug Triaging - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers From lxmaier at gmail.com Wed Jan 11 23:34:33 2006 From: lxmaier at gmail.com (Alex Maier) Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 18:34:33 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Ideas for Ambassadors Message-ID: <7f617d270601111534t72cf01x4fdafdcce5a42e4d@mail.gmail.com> For the newbie Ambassadors, here are a few ideas on How to be an Ambassador [image: (!)] If you are unsure of messaging, Fedora Talking Points is always a good source - *Be a speaker at an event.* Clubs, Linux User Groups (LUGs), school/college/university groups can all benefit from hearing the good word about Fedora. Talk to people. Casually, in a suit, it doesn't matter. *If you were asked to talk at an event, don't panic-?browse fedoraproject.org wiki and you will find some material to get you started. FUDCon pages might be a good place to start, as most of the talks that were given at past conferences are available there for download.* - *Collect press articles about Fedora* and post them to the Press Archive - *Collect feedback from community members* and submit it to the [image: [WWW]] Fedora Marketing List or talk about it with any Fedora Ambassadors Steering Committee member. *Consider posting Fedora success stories on Fedora User Testimonials page .* - *Promote Fedora events.* We organize a FUDCon, about once every three months - use contact base to gain speakers, attendees, gophers, et al. *If you want to help out organizing a FUDCon or other Fedora event, visit FUDCon/Organization to see what tasks are there to be taken care of. * - *Distribute Press Releases to local press,* translating them into a local language, when required. *Need a press release? Here is the Press Release Repository .* - *Support and coordinate offline Fedora and Open Source activities,*like Software Freedom Day, handing out flyers, the distribution on DVD, and so forth. *Watch this list of upcoming offline FedoraEvents * - *Sign up Fedora Project for regional events*-?it need not be a computer-related event to be relevant. Go to a music trade show to talk about free culture and open music formats, go to a university event to talk about Fedora to students and faculty, go to a local Linux event and get some space for a booth in the .ORG pavilion... *Once you have secured participation in an event, please add it to the FedoraEvents list!* - Just make sure to *coordinate with Fedora Marketing* so you get support in form of money for travel, space, booth signage, trade show infrastructure, giveaways, etc. * Event Organizers' Resourcespage is a good place to start. * - *Communicate eloquently*. Fedora Ambassadors should be the conduct leaders for the community. Make sure you dont trash talk or be rude to anyone while wearing a 'Fedora' or even in general to the community. See CommunityConduct page for general guidelines and Ambassadors conduct for specific information. - *Become an expert at Fedora* (both the project and the distribution). This way you're a constant resource to your local userbase, which will make new users more welcome to the project/distribution. When in doubt however, ask. Source: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/HowTo -- Check out the new content on Fedora Project page! http://fedoraproject.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fedora at leemhuis.info Thu Jan 12 06:31:23 2006 From: fedora at leemhuis.info (Thorsten Leemhuis) Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 07:31:23 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] The Grumpy Editor's Obviously Incorrect 2006 Predictions -- Jonathan Corbet/lwn.net Message-ID: <1137047483.14613.17.camel@thl.ct.heise.de> Just FYI: http://lwn.net/Articles/165351/ [...] The Fedora project will have to make changes to preserve developer and user interest in 2006. Fedora is still hard to contribute to, its decision process is relatively opaque, the promised Fedora Foundation is missing, the short support period keeps users on an upgrade treadmill, Fedora Legacy is not staffed at a level where it can be relied upon, and, crucially, other free, leading-edge distributions (OpenSUSE, Ubuntu) are increasingly competing for the same users. Fedora remains a top-quality distribution, but it risks losing some of the user and developer energy which makes it an important distribution. [...] We IMHO should discuss about this and maybe someone (e.g. not me; not enough time) should talk to Corbet about this. Not that is wrong in general, but I would be interested in details especially behind these paragraph to make things better in the future: * Fedora is still hard to contribute to, For Fedora Core this seems true. Could we people at least give the feeling somehow that it's possible to contribute to Fedora Core? * its decision process is relatively opaque, For Fedora Core I agree; For the other Fedora Projects: Is it really? What do we need to make better? * the promised Fedora Foundation is missing, From the outside it seems so. But that hopefully gets better (soon?) * the short support period keeps users on an upgrade treadmill, Agreed. One is practically forced to update to each release because updates stop for Core n-1 when the Test2 release of n+1 is released. I think I know the reasons behind this decision, but it IMHO would look *a lot better* if we would support n-1 until n+1 is released +4 weeks * Fedora Legacy is not staffed at a level where it can be relied upon, I have the same feeling as a outsider (never used it) * and, crucially, other free, leading-edge distributions (OpenSUSE, Ubuntu) are increasingly competing for the same users. Agreed Just my 2 cent. /me wonders if we should use fedora-devel for this discussion, but sticks to fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com for now CU thl From nman64 at n-man.com Thu Jan 12 11:02:50 2006 From: nman64 at n-man.com (Patrick Barnes) Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 05:02:50 -0600 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Meeting Reminder Message-ID: <43C6375A.8040003@n-man.com> Quick reminder: we have a meeting coming up in 3 hours! (14:00 UTC) David Barzilay has volunteered to lead this meeting. We'll look forward to your participation. See http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings for more information. Remember, we rotate our meeting times each week, so if one time isn't good for you, hopefully you can make the other. Our meetings are an important part of being an Ambassador, and you should do your best to attend at least one of the meeting times. -- Patrick "The N-Man" Barnes nman64 at n-man.com http://www.n-man.com/ -- Have I been helpful? Rate my assistance! http://rate.affero.net/nman64/ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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(14:00 UTC) From lxmaier at gmail.com Thu Jan 12 13:23:45 2006 From: lxmaier at gmail.com (Alex Maier) Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 08:23:45 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Robert Pereira removed from country list Message-ID: <7f617d270601120523w7376e917n4de2bfd4d61fb523@mail.gmail.com> For your information: RobertPereira was added by someone as an Ambassador for Brazil. There is no registered user in the wiki by this name. I have removed him from the list. -- Check out the new content on Fedora Project page! http://fedoraproject.org From dmora at paytechinternational.com Thu Jan 12 15:23:26 2006 From: dmora at paytechinternational.com (Dave MS) Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 09:23:26 -0600 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Welcome and news... Message-ID: <1137079407.3602.9.camel@pavilion.hive.corp> Hi everybody at Fedora, My name is David Mora, i am from Costa Rica (Central America) a beauty tropical country, currently i am finishing my career (System Engineering), i work for a regional company, as the HeadTech. I was added as an ambassador last month ( December ), but i was away from my office due to my vacations, so i could not reach the meetings, and now i am updating reading all the emails regarding fedora. For me, it is a pleasure to join this community, and help at any kind of matter. There is something that i want to share with you, an article about something that a company has won on a judical cause, that might affect some linux distributions: http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.diarioti.com% 2Fgate%2Fn.php%3Fid%3D10368&langpair=es% 7Cen&hl=es&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&prev=%2Flanguage_tools The url, link to google translate, due to the page is in my native language (spanish). Well, thank you all... Regards Dave From nman64 at n-man.com Thu Jan 12 15:38:54 2006 From: nman64 at n-man.com (Patrick Barnes) Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 09:38:54 -0600 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Meeting Minutes - 2006-01-12 Message-ID: <43C6780E.4050601@n-man.com> == Present == * PatrickBarnes (nman64) * ThomasChung (tchung) * ChitleshGoorah * JoseTarazona * MauricioPretto * MikaelJacobsson (maikaru) * SankarshanMukhopadhyay (sankarshan) * TejasDinkar (gja) * ThorstenLeemhuis (thl) * JonFautley (sasquatch) * RoozbehPournader (roozbeh) === Events === http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents * LinuxAsia Confirmed visits from Greg and Blizzard. Organizers will have announcements next week. Schwag has been requested. * SCALE Schwag has been requested. ThomasChung will try to get an idea of expected turnout. We want pictures! * Strasbourg ChitleshGoorah has unofficially reserved a booth. === Schwag === http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors Get requests in early if you want to get the goods before your event. We're still working on getting logistics worked out. === Email Aliases === http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Emails We have an 'ambassadors' group in the Account System. This is the key to aliases. @fedora.redhat.com aliases are available. @fedoraproject.org aliases will be created automatically for existing account holders when they become available. === Donations === We are not yet ready to take donations for the Fedora Foundation. The necessary work is in progress, so this should be possible in the near future. We'll need to gather a reasonable amount of donations from outside of Red Hat so that donations can be tax-deductible. Donations will most likely be accepted through an online process. We don't need Ambassadors collecting funds. === Presentations === The existing CLA effectively covers licensing for presentations, including translations that are submitted. We just need Ambassadors to sign the CLA before contributing. This is also compatible with the licensing requirements of most shows. We'll face exceptions if and when we encounter them. Under this arrangement, contributors keep copyrights, and Fedora and Red Hat are granted FOSS-style licenses to make certain that the contributions remain free, like the software that Fedora provides. === Business Cards === Ambassadors can get a sign-off to use the trademark and logo to create their own business cards. They are encouraged to submit templates to the list so that we can review them before the Fedora Project starts producing them. Simple is good. === IRC Cloaks === Official Fedora contributors are eligible to get a fedora cloak on freenode. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Cloaks has been created to gather requests. PatrickBarnes will start poking the right man to get these created. === Ambassador Kits === Our efforts to produce cards, schwag, etc. are working towards this. Not much else to add. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings -- Patrick "The N-Man" Barnes nman64 at n-man.com http://www.n-man.com/ -- Have I been helpful? Rate my assistance! http://rate.affero.net/nman64/ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Are all of these meetings now at 1300 GMT? --g --------------------------------------------------------------- Greg DeKoenigsberg || Fedora Foundation || fedoraproject.org Be an Ambassador || http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors --------------------------------------------------------------- On Thu, 12 Jan 2006, Patrick Barnes wrote: > == Present == > > * PatrickBarnes (nman64) > * ThomasChung (tchung) > * ChitleshGoorah > * JoseTarazona > * MauricioPretto > * MikaelJacobsson (maikaru) > * SankarshanMukhopadhyay (sankarshan) > * TejasDinkar (gja) > * ThorstenLeemhuis (thl) > * JonFautley (sasquatch) > * RoozbehPournader (roozbeh) > > > === Events === > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents > > * LinuxAsia > Confirmed visits from Greg and Blizzard. Organizers will have > announcements next week. Schwag has been requested. > > * SCALE > Schwag has been requested. ThomasChung will try to get an idea of > expected turnout. We want pictures! > > * Strasbourg > ChitleshGoorah has unofficially reserved a booth. > > === Schwag === > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors > > Get requests in early if you want to get the goods before your event. > We're still working on getting logistics worked out. > > === Email Aliases === > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Emails > > We have an 'ambassadors' group in the Account System. This is the key > to aliases. @fedora.redhat.com aliases are available. > @fedoraproject.org aliases will be created automatically for existing > account holders when they become available. > > === Donations === > > We are not yet ready to take donations for the Fedora Foundation. The > necessary work is in progress, so this should be possible in the near > future. We'll need to gather a reasonable amount of donations from > outside of Red Hat so that donations can be tax-deductible. Donations > will most likely be accepted through an online process. We don't need > Ambassadors collecting funds. > > === Presentations === > > The existing CLA effectively covers licensing for presentations, > including translations that are submitted. We just need Ambassadors to > sign the CLA before contributing. This is also compatible with the > licensing requirements of most shows. We'll face exceptions if and when > we encounter them. Under this arrangement, contributors keep > copyrights, and Fedora and Red Hat are granted FOSS-style licenses to > make certain that the contributions remain free, like the software that > Fedora provides. > > === Business Cards === > > Ambassadors can get a sign-off to use the trademark and logo to create > their own business cards. They are encouraged to submit templates to > the list so that we can review them before the Fedora Project starts > producing them. Simple is good. > > === IRC Cloaks === > > Official Fedora contributors are eligible to get a fedora cloak on > freenode. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Cloaks has been > created to gather requests. PatrickBarnes will start poking the right > man to get these created. > > === Ambassador Kits === > > Our efforts to produce cards, schwag, etc. are working towards this. > Not much else to add. > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings > > -- > Patrick "The N-Man" Barnes > nman64 at n-man.com > > http://www.n-man.com/ > -- > Have I been helpful? Rate my assistance! http://rate.affero.net/nman64/ > > > From rwhetsel at ravensong.com Thu Jan 12 15:55:15 2006 From: rwhetsel at ravensong.com (Robert Whetsel) Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 10:55:15 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Meeting Minutes - 2006-01-12 In-Reply-To: References: <43C6780E.4050601@n-man.com> Message-ID: <1137081315.43c67be3d2d16@mail.ravensong.com> Roger that, let me second the voice of apologies. I too believed that the meeting was at a later date (on a two week shedule), and time. Quoting Greg DeKoenigsberg : > > OK, my apologies for being an idiot and missing this meeting -- I was > under the impression that it was later today, under the rotating > schedule. Are all of these meetings now at 1300 GMT? > > --g > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > Greg DeKoenigsberg || Fedora Foundation || fedoraproject.org > Be an Ambassador || http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > On Thu, 12 Jan 2006, Patrick Barnes wrote: > > > == Present == > > > > * PatrickBarnes (nman64) > > * ThomasChung (tchung) > > * ChitleshGoorah > > * JoseTarazona > > * MauricioPretto > > * MikaelJacobsson (maikaru) > > * SankarshanMukhopadhyay (sankarshan) > > * TejasDinkar (gja) > > * ThorstenLeemhuis (thl) > > * JonFautley (sasquatch) > > * RoozbehPournader (roozbeh) > > > > > > === Events === > > > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents > > > > * LinuxAsia > > Confirmed visits from Greg and Blizzard. Organizers will have > > announcements next week. Schwag has been requested. > > > > * SCALE > > Schwag has been requested. ThomasChung will try to get an idea of > > expected turnout. We want pictures! > > > > * Strasbourg > > ChitleshGoorah has unofficially reserved a booth. > > > > === Schwag === > > > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors > > > > Get requests in early if you want to get the goods before your event. > > We're still working on getting logistics worked out. > > > > === Email Aliases === > > > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Emails > > > > We have an 'ambassadors' group in the Account System. This is the key > > to aliases. @fedora.redhat.com aliases are available. > > @fedoraproject.org aliases will be created automatically for existing > > account holders when they become available. > > > > === Donations === > > > > We are not yet ready to take donations for the Fedora Foundation. The > > necessary work is in progress, so this should be possible in the near > > future. We'll need to gather a reasonable amount of donations from > > outside of Red Hat so that donations can be tax-deductible. Donations > > will most likely be accepted through an online process. We don't need > > Ambassadors collecting funds. > > > > === Presentations === > > > > The existing CLA effectively covers licensing for presentations, > > including translations that are submitted. We just need Ambassadors to > > sign the CLA before contributing. This is also compatible with the > > licensing requirements of most shows. We'll face exceptions if and when > > we encounter them. Under this arrangement, contributors keep > > copyrights, and Fedora and Red Hat are granted FOSS-style licenses to > > make certain that the contributions remain free, like the software that > > Fedora provides. > > > > === Business Cards === > > > > Ambassadors can get a sign-off to use the trademark and logo to create > > their own business cards. They are encouraged to submit templates to > > the list so that we can review them before the Fedora Project starts > > producing them. Simple is good. > > > > === IRC Cloaks === > > > > Official Fedora contributors are eligible to get a fedora cloak on > > freenode. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Cloaks has been > > created to gather requests. PatrickBarnes will start poking the right > > man to get these created. > > > > === Ambassador Kits === > > > > Our efforts to produce cards, schwag, etc. are working towards this. > > Not much else to add. > > > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings > > > > -- > > Patrick "The N-Man" Barnes > > nman64 at n-man.com > > > > http://www.n-man.com/ > > -- > > Have I been helpful? Rate my assistance! http://rate.affero.net/nman64/ > > > > > > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- Cheers, Robert C. Whetsel - CEO & Founder Fedora Global Ambassador RavenSong Open Technologies, Inc. DBA: The Raven Group (1992) Open Source Architects Specializing in Enterprise Linux Business Solutions Frederick Innovative Technology Center 401 Rosemont Avenue Frederick, MD 21701 301.898.3817 www.ravensong.com From tchung at fedora.redhat.com Thu Jan 12 15:58:13 2006 From: tchung at fedora.redhat.com (Thomas Chung) Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 07:58:13 -0800 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Meeting Minutes - 2006-01-12 In-Reply-To: References: <43C6780E.4050601@n-man.com> Message-ID: <20060112155400.M25240@fedora.redhat.com> On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 10:43:34 -0500 (EST), Greg DeKoenigsberg wrote > OK, my apologies for being an idiot and missing this meeting -- I was > under the impression that it was later today, under the rotating > schedule. Are all of these meetings now at 1300 GMT? > > --g There was a little confusion earlier that I thought it was 22:00 UTC but then I received a meeting reminder from Patrick that it is 14:00 UTC. I think we should send out meeting reminder more often. :) BTW, next meeting will be on 2006-01-19 at 22:00 UTC See world time link at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung From gdk at redhat.com Thu Jan 12 15:52:53 2006 From: gdk at redhat.com (Greg DeKoenigsberg) Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 10:52:53 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Meeting Minutes - 2006-01-12 In-Reply-To: <1137081315.43c67be3d2d16@mail.ravensong.com> References: <43C6780E.4050601@n-man.com> <1137081315.43c67be3d2d16@mail.ravensong.com> Message-ID: OK, so I'm not the only idiot. "What we have here is failure to communicate" -- especially since neither Roger, nor Alex, nor myself were present. /me mutters about getting a good iCal up somewhere... --g --------------------------------------------------------------- Greg DeKoenigsberg || Fedora Foundation || fedoraproject.org Be an Ambassador || http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors --------------------------------------------------------------- On Thu, 12 Jan 2006, Robert Whetsel wrote: > Roger that, let me second the voice of apologies. I too believed that the > meeting was at a later date (on a two week shedule), and time. > > Quoting Greg DeKoenigsberg : > > > > > OK, my apologies for being an idiot and missing this meeting -- I was > > under the impression that it was later today, under the rotating > > schedule. Are all of these meetings now at 1300 GMT? > > > > --g > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > Greg DeKoenigsberg || Fedora Foundation || fedoraproject.org > > Be an Ambassador || http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > On Thu, 12 Jan 2006, Patrick Barnes wrote: > > > > > == Present == > > > > > > * PatrickBarnes (nman64) > > > * ThomasChung (tchung) > > > * ChitleshGoorah > > > * JoseTarazona > > > * MauricioPretto > > > * MikaelJacobsson (maikaru) > > > * SankarshanMukhopadhyay (sankarshan) > > > * TejasDinkar (gja) > > > * ThorstenLeemhuis (thl) > > > * JonFautley (sasquatch) > > > * RoozbehPournader (roozbeh) > > > > > > > > > === Events === > > > > > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents > > > > > > * LinuxAsia > > > Confirmed visits from Greg and Blizzard. Organizers will have > > > announcements next week. Schwag has been requested. > > > > > > * SCALE > > > Schwag has been requested. ThomasChung will try to get an idea of > > > expected turnout. We want pictures! > > > > > > * Strasbourg > > > ChitleshGoorah has unofficially reserved a booth. > > > > > > === Schwag === > > > > > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors > > > > > > Get requests in early if you want to get the goods before your event. > > > We're still working on getting logistics worked out. > > > > > > === Email Aliases === > > > > > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Emails > > > > > > We have an 'ambassadors' group in the Account System. This is the key > > > to aliases. @fedora.redhat.com aliases are available. > > > @fedoraproject.org aliases will be created automatically for existing > > > account holders when they become available. > > > > > > === Donations === > > > > > > We are not yet ready to take donations for the Fedora Foundation. The > > > necessary work is in progress, so this should be possible in the near > > > future. We'll need to gather a reasonable amount of donations from > > > outside of Red Hat so that donations can be tax-deductible. Donations > > > will most likely be accepted through an online process. We don't need > > > Ambassadors collecting funds. > > > > > > === Presentations === > > > > > > The existing CLA effectively covers licensing for presentations, > > > including translations that are submitted. We just need Ambassadors to > > > sign the CLA before contributing. This is also compatible with the > > > licensing requirements of most shows. We'll face exceptions if and when > > > we encounter them. Under this arrangement, contributors keep > > > copyrights, and Fedora and Red Hat are granted FOSS-style licenses to > > > make certain that the contributions remain free, like the software that > > > Fedora provides. > > > > > > === Business Cards === > > > > > > Ambassadors can get a sign-off to use the trademark and logo to create > > > their own business cards. They are encouraged to submit templates to > > > the list so that we can review them before the Fedora Project starts > > > producing them. Simple is good. > > > > > > === IRC Cloaks === > > > > > > Official Fedora contributors are eligible to get a fedora cloak on > > > freenode. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Cloaks has been > > > created to gather requests. PatrickBarnes will start poking the right > > > man to get these created. > > > > > > === Ambassador Kits === > > > > > > Our efforts to produce cards, schwag, etc. are working towards this. > > > Not much else to add. > > > > > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings > > > > > > -- > > > Patrick "The N-Man" Barnes > > > nman64 at n-man.com > > > > > > http://www.n-man.com/ > > > -- > > > Have I been helpful? Rate my assistance! http://rate.affero.net/nman64/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > -- > Cheers, > > Robert C. Whetsel - CEO & Founder > Fedora Global Ambassador > > RavenSong Open Technologies, Inc. > DBA: The Raven Group (1992) > Open Source Architects Specializing in > Enterprise Linux Business Solutions > > Frederick Innovative Technology Center > 401 Rosemont Avenue > Frederick, MD 21701 > 301.898.3817 > www.ravensong.com > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > From tejasdinkar at gmail.com Thu Jan 12 16:02:08 2006 From: tejasdinkar at gmail.com (Tejas Dinkar) Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 21:32:08 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Welcome and news... In-Reply-To: <1137079407.3602.9.camel@pavilion.hive.corp> References: <1137079407.3602.9.camel@pavilion.hive.corp> Message-ID: <1137081728.4084.102.camel@linuxbox> On Thu, 2006-01-12 at 09:23 -0600, Dave MS wrote: > Hi everybody at Fedora, > My name is David Mora, i am from Costa Rica (Central America) a beauty > tropical country, currently i am finishing my career (System > Engineering), i work for a regional company, as the HeadTech. I was > added as an ambassador last month ( December ), but i was away from my > office due to my vacations, so i could not reach the meetings, and now i > am updating reading all the emails regarding fedora. > For me, it is a pleasure to join this community, and help at any kind of > matter. Pleasure to have you with us It is great to see more and more new faces join the team Gja -- Tejas Dinkar - tejasdinkar AT gmail DOT com question = ( to ) ? be : ! be; -- Wm. Shakespeare From tejasdinkar at gmail.com Thu Jan 12 16:05:11 2006 From: tejasdinkar at gmail.com (Tejas Dinkar) Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 21:35:11 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Meeting Minutes - 2006-01-12 In-Reply-To: References: <43C6780E.4050601@n-man.com> Message-ID: <1137081912.4084.106.camel@linuxbox> On Thu, 2006-01-12 at 10:43 -0500, Greg DeKoenigsberg wrote: > OK, my apologies for being an idiot and missing this meeting -- I was > under the impression that it was later today, under the rotating > schedule. Are all of these meetings now at 1300 GMT? Nope, the meeting are still rotating The easiest way to get the timings of the next meeting is to pop into #fedora-mktg and check out the /topic. Gja -- Tejas Dinkar - tejasdinkar AT gmail DOT com Some Windows were made to be broken. From tchung at fedora.redhat.com Thu Jan 12 16:06:01 2006 From: tchung at fedora.redhat.com (Thomas Chung) Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 08:06:01 -0800 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Meeting Minutes - 2006-01-12 In-Reply-To: References: <43C6780E.4050601@n-man.com> <1137081315.43c67be3d2d16@mail.ravensong.com> Message-ID: <20060112160415.M40578@fedora.redhat.com> On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 10:52:53 -0500 (EST), Greg DeKoenigsberg wrote > OK, so I'm not the only idiot. > > "What we have here is failure to communicate" -- especially since neither > Roger, nor Alex, nor myself were present. > > /me mutters about getting a good iCal up somewhere... > > --g Despite all, we had a good meeting. At least two of our SC members were present. :) http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/2006-01-12 -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung From tchung at fedora.redhat.com Thu Jan 12 16:09:11 2006 From: tchung at fedora.redhat.com (Thomas Chung) Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 08:09:11 -0800 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Meeting Minutes - 2006-01-12 In-Reply-To: <1137081912.4084.106.camel@linuxbox> References: <43C6780E.4050601@n-man.com> <1137081912.4084.106.camel@linuxbox> Message-ID: <20060112160818.M28628@fedora.redhat.com> On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 21:35:11 +0530, Tejas Dinkar wrote > The easiest way to get the timings of the next meeting is to pop into > > #fedora-mktg and check out the /topic. > > Gja Or just visit http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings I'll try keep it up-to-date. :) -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung From nman64 at n-man.com Thu Jan 12 16:09:27 2006 From: nman64 at n-man.com (Patrick Barnes) Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 10:09:27 -0600 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Meeting Minutes - 2006-01-12 In-Reply-To: <20060112155400.M25240@fedora.redhat.com> References: <43C6780E.4050601@n-man.com> <20060112155400.M25240@fedora.redhat.com> Message-ID: <43C67F37.8060902@n-man.com> It would seem we definitely need a calendar if we are going to make the rotation work. We end up with different times all over the place. Even if we are just listing out a couple of months of meetings in advance on the wiki page -- we need something that makes the schedule clear. -- Patrick "The N-Man" Barnes nman64 at n-man.com http://www.n-man.com/ -- Have I been helpful? Rate my assistance! http://rate.affero.net/nman64/ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From tejasdinkar at gmail.com Thu Jan 12 16:15:51 2006 From: tejasdinkar at gmail.com (Tejas Dinkar) Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 21:45:51 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] The Grumpy Editor's Obviously Incorrect 2006 Predictions -- Jonathan Corbet/lwn.net In-Reply-To: <1137047483.14613.17.camel@thl.ct.heise.de> References: <1137047483.14613.17.camel@thl.ct.heise.de> Message-ID: <1137082551.4084.117.camel@linuxbox> On Thu, 2006-01-12 at 07:31 +0100, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote: > Just FYI: > > http://lwn.net/Articles/165351/ > > [...] > The Fedora project will have to make changes to preserve developer and > user interest in 2006. Fedora is still hard to contribute to, its > decision process is relatively opaque. I won't comment on this. However, this IS the general opinion of ALL the people that I have met. And not the johnny-come-lately who just picked a copy of FC, and decided to crib, but people who have been around for ages. Whatever has happened so far, the general public is STILL under the impression that we are the ginuea pigs for RHEL. I won't name names, but this is the general opinion I have picked up in MY experiences of using/promoting Fedora. > /me wonders if we should use fedora-devel for this discussion, but > sticks to fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com for now Well, it is us ambassadors who are going to be asked these questions when we talk. It is a good thing that you gave us the heads up... Gja -- Tejas Dinkar - tejasdinkar AT gmail DOT com furbling, v.: Having to wander through a maze of ropes at an airport or bank even when you are the only person in line. -- Rich Hall, "Sniglets" From tchung at fedora.redhat.com Thu Jan 12 16:16:42 2006 From: tchung at fedora.redhat.com (Thomas Chung) Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 00:16:42 +0800 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Meeting Minutes - 2006-01-12 In-Reply-To: <43C67F37.8060902@n-man.com> References: <43C6780E.4050601@n-man.com> <20060112155400.M25240@fedora.redhat.com> <43C67F37.8060902@n-man.com> Message-ID: <20060112161557.M88667@fedora.redhat.com> On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 10:09:27 -0600, Patrick Barnes wrote > It would seem we definitely need a calendar if we are going to make the > rotation work. We end up with different times all over the place. Even > if we are just listing out a couple of months of meetings in advance on > the wiki page -- we need something that makes the schedule clear. > Ok, I've added "future meeting date and time" for next 6 weeks at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung From nman64 at n-man.com Thu Jan 12 16:22:13 2006 From: nman64 at n-man.com (Patrick Barnes) Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 10:22:13 -0600 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Meeting Minutes - 2006-01-12 In-Reply-To: <20060112160415.M40578@fedora.redhat.com> References: <43C6780E.4050601@n-man.com> <1137081315.43c67be3d2d16@mail.ravensong.com> <20060112160415.M40578@fedora.redhat.com> Message-ID: <43C68235.4040006@n-man.com> Thomas Chung wrote: > On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 10:52:53 -0500 (EST), Greg DeKoenigsberg wrote > > OK, so I'm not the only idiot. > > > > "What we have here is failure to communicate" -- especially since neither > > Roger, nor Alex, nor myself were present. > > > > /me mutters about getting a good iCal up somewhere... > > > > --g > > Despite all, we had a good meeting. At least two of our SC members were present. :) > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/2006-01-12 > -- > Thomas Chung > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > With so much confusion, we might have enough people show up for a second successful meeting. ;-) It looks like I'm at least partially to blame for all of the confusion. It seems this meeting *should* have been later, to maintain the rotation, and I should have caught that. Ah, well. If we can get something solid with scheduling going, I may come up with an automated way to do the meeting reminders. I could get them out a bit further in advance and with less risk of confusion. -- Patrick "The N-Man" Barnes nman64 at n-man.com http://www.n-man.com/ -- Have I been helpful? Rate my assistance! http://rate.affero.net/nman64/ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From gdk at redhat.com Thu Jan 12 16:20:03 2006 From: gdk at redhat.com (Greg DeKoenigsberg) Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 11:20:03 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] The Grumpy Editor's Obviously Incorrect 2006 Predictions -- Jonathan Corbet/lwn.net In-Reply-To: <1137082551.4084.117.camel@linuxbox> References: <1137047483.14613.17.camel@thl.ct.heise.de> <1137082551.4084.117.camel@linuxbox> Message-ID: On Thu, 12 Jan 2006, Tejas Dinkar wrote: > Whatever has happened so far, the general public is STILL under the > impression that we are the guinea pigs for RHEL. Because it's true. We've done a lot of good work, but this is still absolutely true -- and Red Hat, as a company, needs to decide if we're willing to do what it takes to change this fact. Which I, and a lot of other people, are working on. --g --------------------------------------------------------------- Greg DeKoenigsberg || Fedora Foundation || fedoraproject.org Be an Ambassador || http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors --------------------------------------------------------------- From tchung at fedora.redhat.com Thu Jan 12 16:33:54 2006 From: tchung at fedora.redhat.com (Thomas Chung) Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 00:33:54 +0800 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Meeting Minutes - 2006-01-12 In-Reply-To: <43C68235.4040006@n-man.com> References: <43C6780E.4050601@n-man.com> <1137081315.43c67be3d2d16@mail.ravensong.com> <20060112160415.M40578@fedora.redhat.com> <43C68235.4040006@n-man.com> Message-ID: <20060112163252.M46924@fedora.redhat.com> On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 10:22:13 -0600, Patrick Barnes wrote > If we can get something solid with scheduling going, I may come up with > an automated way to do the meeting reminders. I could get them out a > bit further in advance and with less risk of confusion. Until then, a weekly meeting reminder will be appreciated. :) -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung From nayyares at gmail.com Thu Jan 12 17:44:38 2006 From: nayyares at gmail.com (Nayyar Ahmed) Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 22:44:38 +0500 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Fedoraproject Meeting Importance? Message-ID: <8e1ee2a30601120944o6eeecebdhcb2f6f56beb79c62@mail.gmail.com> Hello All: I have just joined Fedora Project as Ambassador, I have seen quite importance of being an active member in Ambassador List, but I want to get the idea, whether this is mandatory to be in the meeting, to get the award of ACTIVE MEMBER, even if we can get meeting minutes and we have access to mailing-list, in my case I am a very besy person, but i am a true lover of Fedora, i d'nt have time to be in meeting but i can read those meeting minutes in my best free time and get the information i.e. what happened in meeting. I am facing a lot of problems in conducting my first ever Fedora Workshop in my region, as i d'nt have access to supporting stuff(DVD's. etc.) due a single reason i.e. i am new and not an active member, in my opinion this is not wiser that we restrict a person to give his best time to a cause which is non-commercial activity. I think if a person come and say, okay i will work to promote Fedora its mean he/she is a serious person. I seriously object this rule that a person should show some active performance to be in the Ambassador list and to get fedora supporting stuff. In my opinion any body who need fedora support material and other things must first submit a proposal to an authority and if that authority find that the proposal is good and in favor of fedoraproject then should grant him/her with the required things he/she need. Thank you. -- Nayyar Ahmad CEO, OSSP, Pakistan. Email: nayyar at ossp.com.pk Cell: +92 333 9139461 Office: +92 91 5846548 Web: www.ossp.com.pk From gdk at redhat.com Thu Jan 12 17:48:13 2006 From: gdk at redhat.com (Greg DeKoenigsberg) Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 12:48:13 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Fedoraproject Meeting Importance? In-Reply-To: <8e1ee2a30601120944o6eeecebdhcb2f6f56beb79c62@mail.gmail.com> References: <8e1ee2a30601120944o6eeecebdhcb2f6f56beb79c62@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Thu, 12 Jan 2006, Nayyar Ahmed wrote: > I seriously object this rule that a person should show some active > performance to be in the Ambassador list and to get fedora supporting > stuff. In my opinion any body who need fedora support material and > other things must first submit a proposal to an authority and if that > authority find that the proposal is good and in favor of fedoraproject > then should grant him/her with the required things he/she need. Nayyar, It's a direct result of the resources available to us. We cannot ship DVDs to everybody. We suspect that a lot of people are joining just to get free stuff. In the future, we may be able to accommodate the requests of all of these people. As of right now, we cannot. So -- perhaps the rule isn't perfect. We'll work to get you what you need. But our resources aren't unlimited. --g --------------------------------------------------------------- Greg DeKoenigsberg || Fedora Foundation || fedoraproject.org Be an Ambassador || http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors --------------------------------------------------------------- From thulshof at gmail.com Thu Jan 12 18:06:48 2006 From: thulshof at gmail.com (Thijs) Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 19:06:48 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Fedoraproject Meeting Importance? In-Reply-To: <8e1ee2a30601120944o6eeecebdhcb2f6f56beb79c62@mail.gmail.com> References: <8e1ee2a30601120944o6eeecebdhcb2f6f56beb79c62@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <9590b2a80601121006t516ce42cj53f63f227d17ca12@mail.gmail.com> Hi Nayyar, I agree don't completely agree with you on the point of the probation period (but I totaly understand your feelings). There is probably a probation period because that makes is less easy for non-serious people to order T-shirts / DVD's, etc. I guess there's a complete other mentality in your country (Pakistan, relaxed people, and not very selfish. Correct me if I'm wrong), but here in The Netherlands that think: "Anything I can get is good. If I can get free T-Shirts, let 'm come! No matter whether there's a Fedora-logo on it or not." On the point about the meetings, I'd like to add something. I don't have critizisms at the way things go right now, but please keep the following in your mind in the future, maybe there will come a situation where this information can be helpfull: I'm not able to make it to a meeting. At 14:00 UTC I'm at school, and at 22:00 I'm sleeping. Only in holidays I'm able to make it to both meetings. Probably I'm not the only one with such 'problems'. So I think the activity of an Ambassador doesn't have very much to do with being at meetings. Take me as an example, I'm quite active as an Ambassador: Translating the FedoraFAQ, writing guides on Dutch Fedora-community site's, spreading news about Fedora in Dutch, organising a meeting In Real Life, etc. Regards, Thijs On 1/12/06, Nayyar Ahmed wrote: > > Hello All: > > I have just joined Fedora Project as Ambassador, I have seen quite > importance of being an active member in Ambassador List, but I want to > get the idea, whether this is mandatory to be in the meeting, to get > the award of ACTIVE MEMBER, even if we can get meeting minutes and we > have access to mailing-list, in my case I am a very besy person, but i > am a true lover of Fedora, i d'nt have time to be in meeting but i can > read those meeting minutes in my best free time and get the > information i.e. what happened in meeting. > > I am facing a lot of problems in conducting my first ever Fedora > Workshop in my region, as i d'nt have access to supporting > stuff(DVD's. etc.) due a single reason i.e. i am new and not an active > member, in my opinion this is not wiser that we restrict a person to > give his best time to a cause which is non-commercial activity. I > think if a person come and say, okay i will work to promote Fedora its > mean he/she is a serious person. > > I seriously object this rule that a person should show some active > performance to be in the Ambassador list and to get fedora supporting > stuff. In my opinion any body who need fedora support material and > other things must first submit a proposal to an authority and if that > authority find that the proposal is good and in favor of fedoraproject > then should grant him/her with the required things he/she need. > > Thank you. > -- > Nayyar Ahmad > CEO, OSSP, Pakistan. > Email: nayyar at ossp.com.pk > Cell: +92 333 9139461 > Office: +92 91 5846548 > Web: www.ossp.com.pk > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nayyares at gmail.com Thu Jan 12 18:08:10 2006 From: nayyares at gmail.com (Nayyar Ahmed) Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 23:08:10 +0500 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Fedoraproject Meeting Importance? In-Reply-To: References: <8e1ee2a30601120944o6eeecebdhcb2f6f56beb79c62@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8e1ee2a30601121008v3b4b870wc1e19f46183b0385@mail.gmail.com> Hi, But the limited resources must be well managed, that is the reason i am suggesting that fedora ambassador first submit a proposal to get supporting stuff, if the fedoraproject authority find it good then they accept otherwise reject. but here we have a strange rule, i.e. ACTIVE MEMBER, i will request you to please describe the term Active Member, I mean who is Active Member, what a person should do to get this status? thanks On 1/12/06, Greg DeKoenigsberg wrote: > > On Thu, 12 Jan 2006, Nayyar Ahmed wrote: > > > I seriously object this rule that a person should show some active > > performance to be in the Ambassador list and to get fedora supporting > > stuff. In my opinion any body who need fedora support material and > > other things must first submit a proposal to an authority and if that > > authority find that the proposal is good and in favor of fedoraproject > > then should grant him/her with the required things he/she need. > > Nayyar, > > It's a direct result of the resources available to us. > > We cannot ship DVDs to everybody. We suspect that a lot of people are > joining just to get free stuff. In the future, we may be able to > accommodate the requests of all of these people. As of right now, we > cannot. > > So -- perhaps the rule isn't perfect. We'll work to get you what you > need. But our resources aren't unlimited. > > --g > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > Greg DeKoenigsberg || Fedora Foundation || fedoraproject.org > Be an Ambassador || http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- Nayyar Ahmad CEO, OSSP, Pakistan. Email: nayyar at ossp.com.pk Cell: +92 333 9139461 Office: +92 91 5846548 Web: www.ossp.com.pk From lxmaier at gmail.com Thu Jan 12 18:10:24 2006 From: lxmaier at gmail.com (Alex Maier) Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 13:10:24 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Fedoraproject Meeting Importance? In-Reply-To: <9590b2a80601121006t516ce42cj53f63f227d17ca12@mail.gmail.com> References: <8e1ee2a30601120944o6eeecebdhcb2f6f56beb79c62@mail.gmail.com> <9590b2a80601121006t516ce42cj53f63f227d17ca12@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <7f617d270601121010r75112fcas2db117bc6dfe4626@mail.gmail.com> On 1/12/06, Thijs wrote: > On the point about the meetings, I'd like to add something. I don't have > critizisms at the way things go right now, but please keep the following in > your mind in the future, maybe there will come a situation where this > information can be helpfull: I'm not able to make it to a meeting. At 14:00 > UTC I'm at school, and at 22:00 I'm sleeping. Only in holidays I'm able to > make it to both meetings. Probably I'm not the only one with such > 'problems'. So I think the activity of an Ambassador doesn't have very much > to do with being at meetings. Take me as an example, I'm quite active as an > Ambassador: Translating the FedoraFAQ, writing guides on Dutch > Fedora-community site's, spreading news about Fedora in Dutch, organising a > meeting In Real Life, etc. This is a great example! Keep the good work up Thijs! From nayyares at gmail.com Thu Jan 12 18:24:38 2006 From: nayyares at gmail.com (Nayyar Ahmed) Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 23:24:38 +0500 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Fedoraproject Meeting Importance? In-Reply-To: <9590b2a80601121006t516ce42cj53f63f227d17ca12@mail.gmail.com> References: <8e1ee2a30601120944o6eeecebdhcb2f6f56beb79c62@mail.gmail.com> <9590b2a80601121006t516ce42cj53f63f227d17ca12@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8e1ee2a30601121024ib007817jc0a978df6ea5a52c@mail.gmail.com> Hi Thijs: I appreciate the way you are supporting fedora, as for as Pakistani people behavior goes it is same as you described in Netherlands :), i have criticise the way fedoraproject grants the support stuff, because i found problems in doing a good and real work, and there might be many other who may get same problems as i do. My comments are not just to get free stuff, but i want you people attention to start a proposal based grant to fedora ambassador, in my opinion it is more practical way then being an active member. thanks On 1/12/06, Thijs wrote: > Hi Nayyar, > > I agree don't completely agree with you on the point of the probation > period (but I totaly understand your feelings). There is probably a > probation period because that makes is less easy for non-serious people to > order T-shirts / DVD's, etc. I guess there's a complete other mentality in > your country (Pakistan, relaxed people, and not very selfish. Correct me if > I'm wrong), but here in The Netherlands that think: "Anything I can get is > good. If I can get free T-Shirts, let 'm come! No matter whether there's a > Fedora-logo on it or not." > > On the point about the meetings, I'd like to add something. I don't have > critizisms at the way things go right now, but please keep the following in > your mind in the future, maybe there will come a situation where this > information can be helpfull: I'm not able to make it to a meeting. At 14:00 > UTC I'm at school, and at 22:00 I'm sleeping. Only in holidays I'm able to > make it to both meetings. Probably I'm not the only one with such > 'problems'. So I think the activity of an Ambassador doesn't have very much > to do with being at meetings. Take me as an example, I'm quite active as an > Ambassador: Translating the FedoraFAQ, writing guides on Dutch > Fedora-community site's, spreading news about Fedora in Dutch, organising a > meeting In Real Life, etc. > > Regards, > Thijs > > > On 1/12/06, Nayyar Ahmed wrote: > > > > Hello All: > > > > I have just joined Fedora Project as Ambassador, I have seen quite > > importance of being an active member in Ambassador List, but I want to > > get the idea, whether this is mandatory to be in the meeting, to get > > the award of ACTIVE MEMBER, even if we can get meeting minutes and we > > have access to mailing-list, in my case I am a very besy person, but i > > am a true lover of Fedora, i d'nt have time to be in meeting but i can > > read those meeting minutes in my best free time and get the > > information i.e. what happened in meeting. > > > > I am facing a lot of problems in conducting my first ever Fedora > > Workshop in my region, as i d'nt have access to supporting > > stuff(DVD's. etc.) due a single reason i.e. i am new and not an active > > member, in my opinion this is not wiser that we restrict a person to > > give his best time to a cause which is non-commercial activity. I > > think if a person come and say, okay i will work to promote Fedora its > > mean he/she is a serious person. > > > > I seriously object this rule that a person should show some active > > performance to be in the Ambassador list and to get fedora supporting > > stuff. In my opinion any body who need fedora support material and > > other things must first submit a proposal to an authority and if that > > authority find that the proposal is good and in favor of fedoraproject > > then should grant him/her with the required things he/she need. > > > > Thank you. > > -- > > Nayyar Ahmad > > CEO, OSSP, Pakistan. > > Email: nayyar at ossp.com.pk > > Cell: +92 333 9139461 > > Office: +92 91 5846548 > > Web: www.ossp.com.pk > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > -- Nayyar Ahmad CEO, OSSP, Pakistan. Email: nayyar at ossp.com.pk Cell: +92 333 9139461 Office: +92 91 5846548 Web: www.ossp.com.pk From gdk at redhat.com Thu Jan 12 18:35:10 2006 From: gdk at redhat.com (Greg DeKoenigsberg) Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 13:35:10 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Fedoraproject Meeting Importance? In-Reply-To: <8e1ee2a30601121008v3b4b870wc1e19f46183b0385@mail.gmail.com> References: <8e1ee2a30601120944o6eeecebdhcb2f6f56beb79c62@mail.gmail.com> <8e1ee2a30601121008v3b4b870wc1e19f46183b0385@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Thu, 12 Jan 2006, Nayyar Ahmed wrote: > But the limited resources must be well managed, that is the reason i > am suggesting that fedora ambassador first submit a proposal to get > supporting stuff, if the fedoraproject authority find it good then > they accept otherwise reject. but here we have a strange rule, i.e. > ACTIVE MEMBER, i will request you to please describe the term Active > Member, I mean who is Active Member, what a person should do to get > this status? Hm. OK, as it happens, I think you're exactly right. We put this restriction in place before we had a steering committee. I think you're quite right, that the steering committee should be in charge of managing these requests. So that's how we'll do it for now. Let me put this in front of the steering committee and we'll get back to you. --g --------------------------------------------------------------- Greg DeKoenigsberg || Fedora Foundation || fedoraproject.org Be an Ambassador || http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors --------------------------------------------------------------- From nayyares at gmail.com Thu Jan 12 18:42:50 2006 From: nayyares at gmail.com (Nayyar Ahmed) Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 23:42:50 +0500 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Fedoraproject Meeting Importance? In-Reply-To: References: <8e1ee2a30601120944o6eeecebdhcb2f6f56beb79c62@mail.gmail.com> <8e1ee2a30601121008v3b4b870wc1e19f46183b0385@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8e1ee2a30601121042y660e11behbe8456450ac5622@mail.gmail.com> thanks you for considering my point of view. On 1/12/06, Greg DeKoenigsberg wrote: > > On Thu, 12 Jan 2006, Nayyar Ahmed wrote: > > > But the limited resources must be well managed, that is the reason i > > am suggesting that fedora ambassador first submit a proposal to get > > supporting stuff, if the fedoraproject authority find it good then > > they accept otherwise reject. but here we have a strange rule, i.e. > > ACTIVE MEMBER, i will request you to please describe the term Active > > Member, I mean who is Active Member, what a person should do to get > > this status? > > Hm. > > OK, as it happens, I think you're exactly right. > > We put this restriction in place before we had a steering committee. I > think you're quite right, that the steering committee should be in charge > of managing these requests. > > So that's how we'll do it for now. Let me put this in front of the > steering committee and we'll get back to you. > > --g > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > Greg DeKoenigsberg || Fedora Foundation || fedoraproject.org > Be an Ambassador || http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- Nayyar Ahmad CEO, OSSP, Pakistan. Email: nayyar at ossp.com.pk Cell: +92 333 9139461 Office: +92 91 5846548 Web: www.ossp.com.pk From tejasdinkar at gmail.com Thu Jan 12 19:00:05 2006 From: tejasdinkar at gmail.com (Tejas Dinkar) Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 00:30:05 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Fedoraproject Meeting Importance? In-Reply-To: <8e1ee2a30601121024ib007817jc0a978df6ea5a52c@mail.gmail.com> References: <8e1ee2a30601120944o6eeecebdhcb2f6f56beb79c62@mail.gmail.com> <9590b2a80601121006t516ce42cj53f63f227d17ca12@mail.gmail.com> <8e1ee2a30601121024ib007817jc0a978df6ea5a52c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1137092405.26894.30.camel@linuxbox> On Thu, 2006-01-12 at 23:24 +0500, Nayyar Ahmed wrote: > Hi Thijs: > > I appreciate the way you are supporting fedora, as for as Pakistani > people behavior goes it is same as you described in Netherlands :), i > have criticise the way fedoraproject grants the support stuff, because > i found problems in doing a good and real work, and there might be > many other who may get same problems as i do. My comments are not just > to get free stuff, but i want you people attention to start a proposal > based grant to fedora ambassador, in my opinion it is more practical > way then being an active member. > > thanks See, but understand this. How can a member of the fedora steering committee be sure if the person requesting fedora stuff is really asking it to distribute if for free? As someone posted earlier, Fedora T-Shirts are selling for nearly $10-15 PER SHIRT. And in India, Fedora Core DVDs are selling for Rs 500 (~10$). We cannot afford to lose any Fedora Goodies at all. In particular, if a member of the Ambassadors team abuses his power to make a sum for himself (other than a t-shirt or two), then the publicity WILL be devastating. You will have the news on SlashDot: 'Robbing Fedora for Fun and Profit'. Now how can anyone be sure that someone is worthy? The same way the rest of the Open Source world works. Titles and position and prestige are awarded to those who DO. Those who take leadership. Those who put their own necks on the line, and provide useful input. Even if that input is just 'Here are the slides I am using for my talk on Fedora'... that is still a CONTRIBUTION. And those who CONTRIBUTE are trusted. That is the way that things work in the FOSS world. If someone joins the Fedora-Ambassadors, and then the next day says: "Please send me 500 DVDs and 100 T-Shirts", will naturally be treated with suspicion. It is equally suspicious when a person has been on the list for months, and never says a word, except for "give me...". Yes, an ACTIVE MEMBER is not very well defined. But I think that if you point out an Ambassador, you can say if they are active or not. Yes, you may be busy and cannot attend meeting. Not everyone can make it to meetings, and the timings may be such that it interferes with with work. But the decisions are NOT made in the meetings always. Decisions are made on this list. On the wiki, on fedoranews.org. At least make it known that you are an ambassador, and not just hope that you will be sent stuff 'Because you name has been in the wiki's edit group for a while' Contribute your best, whatever you have time for. You will be alarmed at how many people will be helped, even by an article that took you 15 minutes to write. See, this is a form of collateral for the project. Now, when we send you stuff, we are not sending it free. You have already paid for it. Not with money, but with Blood, Sweat and the Hard Work that you have put in to improve the Fedora Project. So it is a profit to us, no matter what you do with the CDs. Gja -- Tejas Dinkar - tejasdinkar AT gmail DOT com The probability of someone watching you is proportional to the stupidity of your action. From gdk at redhat.com Thu Jan 12 19:08:33 2006 From: gdk at redhat.com (Greg DeKoenigsberg) Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 14:08:33 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Fedoraproject Meeting Importance? In-Reply-To: <1137092405.26894.30.camel@linuxbox> References: <8e1ee2a30601120944o6eeecebdhcb2f6f56beb79c62@mail.gmail.com> <9590b2a80601121006t516ce42cj53f63f227d17ca12@mail.gmail.com> <8e1ee2a30601121024ib007817jc0a978df6ea5a52c@mail.gmail.com> <1137092405.26894.30.camel@linuxbox> Message-ID: Great response, Tejas. But the process side of his question is still valid, IMHO. --g On Fri, 13 Jan 2006, Tejas Dinkar wrote: > On Thu, 2006-01-12 at 23:24 +0500, Nayyar Ahmed wrote: > > Hi Thijs: > > > > I appreciate the way you are supporting fedora, as for as Pakistani > > people behavior goes it is same as you described in Netherlands :), i > > have criticise the way fedoraproject grants the support stuff, because > > i found problems in doing a good and real work, and there might be > > many other who may get same problems as i do. My comments are not just > > to get free stuff, but i want you people attention to start a proposal > > based grant to fedora ambassador, in my opinion it is more practical > > way then being an active member. > > > > thanks > > See, but understand this. > > How can a member of the fedora steering committee be sure if the person > requesting fedora stuff is really asking it to distribute if for free? > > As someone posted earlier, Fedora T-Shirts are selling for nearly $10-15 > PER SHIRT. And in India, Fedora Core DVDs are selling for Rs 500 (~10$). > > We cannot afford to lose any Fedora Goodies at all. In particular, if a > member of the Ambassadors team abuses his power to make a sum for > himself (other than a t-shirt or two), then the publicity WILL be > devastating. > > You will have the news on SlashDot: 'Robbing Fedora for Fun and Profit'. > > Now how can anyone be sure that someone is worthy? > > The same way the rest of the Open Source world works. Titles and > position and prestige are awarded to those who DO. Those who take > leadership. Those who put their own necks on the line, and provide > useful input. > > Even if that input is just 'Here are the slides I am using for my talk > on Fedora'... that is still a CONTRIBUTION. And those who CONTRIBUTE are > trusted. That is the way that things work in the FOSS world. > > If someone joins the Fedora-Ambassadors, and then the next day says: > "Please send me 500 DVDs and 100 T-Shirts", will naturally be treated > with suspicion. It is equally suspicious when a person has been on the > list for months, and never says a word, except for "give me...". > > Yes, an ACTIVE MEMBER is not very well defined. But I think that if you > point out an Ambassador, you can say if they are active or not. > > Yes, you may be busy and cannot attend meeting. Not everyone can make it > to meetings, and the timings may be such that it interferes with with > work. But the decisions are NOT made in the meetings always. Decisions > are made on this list. On the wiki, on fedoranews.org. At least make it > known that you are an ambassador, and not just hope that you will be > sent stuff 'Because you name has been in the wiki's edit group for a > while' > > Contribute your best, whatever you have time for. You will be alarmed at > how many people will be helped, even by an article that took you 15 > minutes to write. > > See, this is a form of collateral for the project. Now, when we send you > stuff, we are not sending it free. > > You have already paid for it. > > Not with money, but with Blood, Sweat and the Hard Work that you have > put in to improve the Fedora Project. > > So it is a profit to us, no matter what you do with the CDs. > > Gja > > -- > Tejas Dinkar - tejasdinkar AT gmail DOT com > > The probability of someone watching you is proportional to the > stupidity of your action. > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > From tejasdinkar at gmail.com Thu Jan 12 19:37:46 2006 From: tejasdinkar at gmail.com (Tejas Dinkar) Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 01:07:46 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Fedoraproject Meeting Importance? In-Reply-To: References: <8e1ee2a30601120944o6eeecebdhcb2f6f56beb79c62@mail.gmail.com> <9590b2a80601121006t516ce42cj53f63f227d17ca12@mail.gmail.com> <8e1ee2a30601121024ib007817jc0a978df6ea5a52c@mail.gmail.com> <1137092405.26894.30.camel@linuxbox> Message-ID: <1137094666.26894.35.camel@linuxbox> On Thu, 2006-01-12 at 14:08 -0500, Greg DeKoenigsberg wrote: > Great response, Tejas. But the process side of his question is still > valid, IMHO. Thanks Greg, perhaps you are right Sometimes, new Ambassadors may need stuff to spead the word. However, > --g This Leads me to poor RedHat Joke # 6. Q: Why can't Red Hat ever hire more than 26 employees? A: Because they will run out of single letter call signs ;~) Come on. Am I the ONLY one who thought that was Funny? Gja -- Tejas Dinkar - tejasdinkar AT gmail DOT com I'm not a spammer, really. From barzilay at redhat.com Thu Jan 12 21:45:39 2006 From: barzilay at redhat.com (David Barzilay) Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 07:45:39 +1000 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Robert Pereira removed from country list In-Reply-To: <7f617d270601120523w7376e917n4de2bfd4d61fb523@mail.gmail.com> References: <7f617d270601120523w7376e917n4de2bfd4d61fb523@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1137102339.5426.20.camel@maxwell.brisbane.redhat.com> Hi Alex and All, Robert has been contributing with us "in the backstage". Can you please revert the situation and add him again. I'm copying him in this email so he can create his wiki page. Thanks, -- David Barzilay Fedora Global Ambassador Remote Ambassador for Brazil On Thu, 2006-01-12 at 08:23 -0500, Alex Maier wrote: > For your information: > > RobertPereira was added by someone as an Ambassador for Brazil. There > is no registered user in the wiki by this name. I have removed him > from the list. > > -- > Check out the new content on Fedora Project page! http://fedoraproject.org > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list From lxmaier at gmail.com Thu Jan 12 16:36:59 2006 From: lxmaier at gmail.com (Alex Maier) Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 11:36:59 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Meeting Minutes - 2006-01-12 In-Reply-To: <43C68235.4040006@n-man.com> References: <43C6780E.4050601@n-man.com> <1137081315.43c67be3d2d16@mail.ravensong.com> <20060112160415.M40578@fedora.redhat.com> <43C68235.4040006@n-man.com> Message-ID: <7f617d270601120836i7982e91bwa44e48f46ccc7088@mail.gmail.com> On 1/12/06, Patrick Barnes wrote: > It looks like I'm at least partially to blame for all of the confusion. > It seems this meeting *should* have been later, to maintain the > rotation, and I should have caught that. Ah, well. Indeed, I have looked at all my records, and the meeting was supposed to take place at 22 UTC, i.e. 5pm Eastern, 11pm Central European. We still could catch up :) BTW, in all meeting notes, I always placed the next meeting time at the top of the notes. > If we can get something solid with scheduling going, I may come up with > an automated way to do the meeting reminders. I could get them out a > bit further in advance and with less risk of confusion. Some kind of a schedule, automated or simply a static table on the wiki, would make sense. +1 From lxmaier at gmail.com Fri Jan 13 00:16:47 2006 From: lxmaier at gmail.com (Alex Maier) Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 19:16:47 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Robert Pereira removed from country list In-Reply-To: <1137102339.5426.20.camel@maxwell.brisbane.redhat.com> References: <7f617d270601120523w7376e917n4de2bfd4d61fb523@mail.gmail.com> <1137102339.5426.20.camel@maxwell.brisbane.redhat.com> Message-ID: <7f617d270601121616o8430580l84062c5683fa4ffe@mail.gmail.com> Thanks for letting me know David. I guess the best way to do this is for you to have him register with wiki, set his user name on the Edit list, and have him addhis name back to the Country list and build his page. Wiki is an important communicaton medium for us, and so I think everyone needs to go through the mandatory steps to make sure they understand the system :) Cheers, a On 1/12/06, David Barzilay wrote: > Hi Alex and All, > > Robert has been contributing with us "in the backstage". Can you please > revert the situation and add him again. > > I'm copying him in this email so he can create his wiki page. > > Thanks, > -- > David Barzilay > Fedora Global Ambassador > Remote Ambassador for Brazil > > On Thu, 2006-01-12 at 08:23 -0500, Alex Maier wrote: > > For your information: > > > > RobertPereira was added by someone as an Ambassador for Brazil. There > > is no registered user in the wiki by this name. I have removed him > > from the list. > > > > -- > > Check out the new content on Fedora Project page! http://fedoraproject.org > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- Check out the new content on Fedora Project page! http://fedoraproject.org From barzilay at redhat.com Fri Jan 13 00:26:51 2006 From: barzilay at redhat.com (David Barzilay) Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 10:26:51 +1000 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Robert Pereira removed from country list In-Reply-To: <7f617d270601121616o8430580l84062c5683fa4ffe@mail.gmail.com> References: <7f617d270601120523w7376e917n4de2bfd4d61fb523@mail.gmail.com> <1137102339.5426.20.camel@maxwell.brisbane.redhat.com> <7f617d270601121616o8430580l84062c5683fa4ffe@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1137112011.5426.37.camel@maxwell.brisbane.redhat.com> Hi Alex, Thanks for your quick reply! Robert, can you please go through the process Alex outlined below. OT, we (Brazilian Ambassadors) are discussing FC5 DVDs distribution through a couple of computer-related publications in the country. One of them is keen to write an article on FC5 (as done with previous FC versions) once we send them a DVD for appraisal. Question: when would be the best timing to do so? After test2 stabilizes? Thanks, -- Dave Barzilay On Thu, 2006-01-12 at 19:16 -0500, Alex Maier wrote: > Thanks for letting me know David. > I guess the best way to do this is for you to have him register with > wiki, set his user name on the Edit list, and have him addhis name > back to the Country list and build his page. > Wiki is an important communicaton medium for us, and so I think > everyone needs to go through the mandatory steps to make sure they > understand the system :) > Cheers, > a > > On 1/12/06, David Barzilay wrote: > > Hi Alex and All, > > > > Robert has been contributing with us "in the backstage". Can you please > > revert the situation and add him again. > > > > I'm copying him in this email so he can create his wiki page. > > > > Thanks, > > -- > > David Barzilay > > Fedora Global Ambassador > > Remote Ambassador for Brazil > > > > On Thu, 2006-01-12 at 08:23 -0500, Alex Maier wrote: > > > For your information: > > > > > > RobertPereira was added by someone as an Ambassador for Brazil. There > > > is no registered user in the wiki by this name. I have removed him > > > from the list. From tchung at fedora.redhat.com Fri Jan 13 03:35:11 2006 From: tchung at fedora.redhat.com (Thomas Chung) Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 11:35:11 +0800 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Fedoraproject Meeting Importance? In-Reply-To: <1137092405.26894.30.camel@linuxbox> References: <8e1ee2a30601120944o6eeecebdhcb2f6f56beb79c62@mail.gmail.com> <9590b2a80601121006t516ce42cj53f63f227d17ca12@mail.gmail.com> <8e1ee2a30601121024ib007817jc0a978df6ea5a52c@mail.gmail.com> <1137092405.26894.30.camel@linuxbox> Message-ID: <20060113033147.M25850@fedora.redhat.com> On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 00:30:05 +0530, Tejas Dinkar wrote ... > See, this is a form of collateral for the project. Now, when we send you > stuff, we are not sending it free. > > You have already paid for it. > > Not with money, but with Blood, Sweat and the Hard Work that you have > put in to improve the Fedora Project. > > So it is a profit to us, no matter what you do with the CDs. > > Gja > Well said. :) You earn Ambassadorship. Not just another membership for a club. -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung From sundaram at redhat.com Fri Jan 13 05:51:57 2006 From: sundaram at redhat.com (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 11:21:57 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] The Grumpy Editor's Obviously Incorrect 2006 Predictions -- Jonathan Corbet/lwn.net In-Reply-To: <1137082551.4084.117.camel@linuxbox> References: <1137047483.14613.17.camel@thl.ct.heise.de> <1137082551.4084.117.camel@linuxbox> Message-ID: <43C73FFD.6040100@redhat.com> Hi >Whatever has happened so far, the general public is STILL under the >impression that we are the ginuea pigs for RHEL. > > > Fedora Core roughly maps to RHEL but there are several other projects like Extra, docs and ambassadors that revolve around the external community with no mapping to the EL line. RHEL updates do not directly tie to Fedora release schedule. Remember Fedora is beyond just Core itself. >>/me wonders if we should use fedora-devel for this discussion, but >>sticks to fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com for now >> >> Fedora-marketing might be a better place. I wanted to start a discussion on this there but haven't had time yet. -- Rahul Fedora Bug Triaging - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers From chitlesh at gmail.com Fri Jan 13 22:40:30 2006 From: chitlesh at gmail.com (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 23:40:30 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Idea: Fedora in Library Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0601131440p5fb1a478t503a835736e19d99@mail.gmail.com> Hello everyone, I think im going to write a lot lol. Ok an Ubuntu marketing agent told me about their idea of having Ubuntu in Libraries. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuInLibraries No, its not about installing Ubuntu in the computers but to lend Open source cds to their subscribed users. Actually they copied it from Openoffice. http://www.openoffice.org/nonav/issues/showattachment.cgi/11838/Open%20Source%20CD%20in%20libraries%20Howto.pdf Personally its a wonderful idea because having CDS in libraries will affect the complete newbies mind set of fear towards linux. Considering the fact that librairies is a body of trust. This is mostly an activity done by the lug. Of course if we ambassadors provide enough materials/translation to. Im eager to do it right away in Strasbourg. But comparing to another distros like ubuntu,suse,etc they already have enough materials in their pocket. Example, live cds. I prefer to wait for Fedora to catch up with materials. Let's take for example, Fedora. If a lug happens to realise this project. Among other distros we will only have handouts and Fedora DVDs. Meanwhile students or anyone will prefer to give a try to live cds, leaving Fedora behind. Saying that this particular live distro is based on Fedora isn't enough for the complete newbies. It would rather be useless. If someone tried the "official" fedora LIVE cd if he/she likes it he/she can easily get the install DVD for free for their local lug or lug ambassador or from the library directly. Some testimonials: http://ask.slashdot.org/askslashdot/04/04/16/1923248.shtml?tid=137&tid=185&tid=215 http://slashdot.org/articles/03/12/15/193231.shtml?tid=146&tid=149&tid=99 Since in the last 3 meetings (see http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Schedule ) we didn't really progress in Emails, funds, Schwag because we are waiting for additional info. I suggest we talk and plan about this idea. I know ambassadors from India or Brazil will have alot to say :)) I know we (majority)ambassadors we only popped in during meetings hours, talk and talk. This sounds like acting. Its time to move A55 :) for REAL action. Chitlesh GOORAH -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com From lxmaier at gmail.com Sat Jan 14 00:55:53 2006 From: lxmaier at gmail.com (Alex Maier) Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 19:55:53 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Re: [Fwd: hello Alex] In-Reply-To: <43C80DC9.9060000@o2.pl> References: <43C80DC9.9060000@o2.pl> Message-ID: <7f617d270601131655j8fde8b7r46744a46a306fed6@mail.gmail.com> Mateusz, I do not decide on things like that alone. Please direct all such requests to the list, so the group can discuss it. Thank you, Alex On 1/13/06, Merlin wrote: > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Merlin > To: Merlin > Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 21:06:00 +0100 > Subject: hello Alex > On www i read fedora cam give a money for trip(were i talk about FC) > I want go to Pozna? to PLD Linux Day and I ask about money for trip > (pertol) and (sleep) > > > > > -- Check out the new content on Fedora Project page! http://fedoraproject.org From jaboutboul at fedoraproject.org Fri Jan 13 21:09:49 2006 From: jaboutboul at fedoraproject.org (Jack Aboutboul) Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 16:09:49 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Fedora Initiatives @ LinuxWorld, and beyond Message-ID: <1137186589.4067.17.camel@deepfort> Hey Guys, I am proud to announce that we have successfully agreed with IDG on terms to run an install pavilion at the upcoming LinuxWorld in Boston. Attached is the marketing material they are sending out to promote the show as well as the floor plan for the show floor. We will be in booths 636 and the adjacent booth should we need the space. Note that we are co-sponsoring the event with our good friends Pogo Linux. This is a great accomplishment and should help draw alot of attention and traffic to akk of our good work and efforts. On the same note, we have also been invited back by Boston University, the gracious host of the first ever FUDCon, to hold yet another FUDCon. I personally went by and inspected the facilities yesterday and we are indeed in for a treat. Once we are done figuring out the logistics and are ready to finally announce, I will make sure to let everyone know. Look for a call for papers soon. Thanks for all the great work guys and for helping get the word out on the streets. Jack -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: "LinuxWorld Conference & Expo" <10184836.58016438.4.1.Boston.06 at r1.replyserver.com> Subject: New Floor Iniatives at LinuxWorld Conference & Expo! Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 13:50:36 -0800 Size: 14994 URL: From halaba at o2.pl Sat Jan 14 09:59:04 2006 From: halaba at o2.pl (Merlin) Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 10:59:04 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] PLD LINUX Day Message-ID: <43C8CB68.5010001@o2.pl> Hello I'm Abasador from Poland we have a PLD linux Day i Poznan and I Think i can come there and talk whith people about fedora but i want a money for trip. it's far away and i don't have money for petrol ?? can you help?? From tejasdinkar at gmail.com Sat Jan 14 11:05:39 2006 From: tejasdinkar at gmail.com (Tejas Dinkar) Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 16:35:39 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] PLD LINUX Day In-Reply-To: <43C8CB68.5010001@o2.pl> References: <43C8CB68.5010001@o2.pl> Message-ID: <1137236739.29222.4.camel@linuxbox> On Sat, 2006-01-14 at 10:59 +0100, Merlin wrote: > Hello I'm Abasador from Poland > we have a PLD linux Day i Poznan and I Think i can come there and talk > whith people about fedora > but i want a money for trip. it's far away and i don't have money for > petrol ?? > can you help?? Well, for a start do this: Post a Link to a website where we can read about the event. Also, send us the material you will use for the talk, if any. Gja -- Tejas Dinkar - tejasdinkar AT gmail DOT com Isn't air travel wonderful? Breakfast in London, dinner in New York, luggage in Brazil. From sundaram at redhat.com Sat Jan 14 11:09:59 2006 From: sundaram at redhat.com (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 16:39:59 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Fedora Initiatives @ LinuxWorld, and beyond In-Reply-To: <1137186589.4067.17.camel@deepfort> References: <1137186589.4067.17.camel@deepfort> Message-ID: <43C8DC07.9030107@redhat.com> Jack Aboutboul wrote: >Hey Guys, > >I am proud to announce that we have successfully agreed with IDG on >terms to run an install pavilion at the upcoming LinuxWorld in Boston. >Attached is the marketing material they are sending out to promote the >show as well as the floor plan for the show floor. We will be in booths >636 and the adjacent booth should we need the space. Note that we are >co-sponsoring the event with our good friends Pogo Linux. > >This is a great accomplishment and should help draw alot of attention >and traffic to akk of our good work and efforts. > >On the same note, we have also been invited back by Boston University, >the gracious host of the first ever FUDCon, to hold yet another FUDCon. >I personally went by and inspected the facilities yesterday and we are >indeed in for a treat. Once we are done figuring out the logistics and >are ready to finally announce, I will make sure to let everyone know. >Look for a call for papers soon. > >Thanks for all the great work guys and for helping get the word out on >the streets. > >Jack > > Excellent work Jack. Might send in this information to the fedora-marketing list too. We need to spread the word out sooner and get this effort organized well and video+audio recordings of all the events would be nice. -- Rahul Fedora Bug Triaging - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers From gerold at lugd.org Sat Jan 14 12:05:50 2006 From: gerold at lugd.org (Gerold Kassube) Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 13:05:50 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] events Message-ID: <1137240350.3196.31.camel@NB-Fedora.homenet.local> Hi all, unfortunately I received today the declining of the MiniBit 2006 (in Loerrach, Germany) owning to a lack of demand on which I've had planed to be part of it as ... ... an Fedora Ambassador ... an with my LUG So I delete the entrance in the Wiki; ... The good thing in that case is; I've maybe more time to go to the FUDCon on the Linuxtag and on the Linuxtag himself in Germany (Wiesbaden). Does anybody have a hotel recommendation for me at Wiesbaden??? Regards Gerold -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From chitlesh at gmail.com Sat Jan 14 12:36:06 2006 From: chitlesh at gmail.com (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 13:36:06 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Call for Projects In-Reply-To: <1137241678.3196.36.camel@NB-Fedora.homenet.local> References: <1137241678.3196.36.camel@NB-Fedora.homenet.local> Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0601140436j692e0ddema922d77f970164e1@mail.gmail.com> > Maybe this is also a point for the next Ambassadors meeting?! add it to ambassadors/Schedule :) -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com From rwhetsel at ravensong.com Sat Jan 14 14:29:47 2006 From: rwhetsel at ravensong.com (Robert Whetsel) Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 09:29:47 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Idea: Fedora in Library In-Reply-To: <13dbfe4f0601131440p5fb1a478t503a835736e19d99@mail.gmail.com> References: <13dbfe4f0601131440p5fb1a478t503a835736e19d99@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1137248986.43c90adb0063b@mail.ravensong.com> Chitlesh, spot on! Quoting Chitlesh GOORAH : > Hello everyone, > I think im going to write a lot lol. > Ok an Ubuntu marketing agent told me about their idea of having Ubuntu > in Libraries. > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuInLibraries > No, its not about installing Ubuntu in the computers but to lend Open > source cds to their subscribed users. Actually they copied it from > Openoffice. > http://www.openoffice.org/nonav/issues/showattachment.cgi/11838/Open%20Source%20CD%20in%20libraries%20Howto.pdf > > Personally its a wonderful idea because having CDS in libraries will > affect the complete newbies mind set of fear towards linux. > Considering the fact that librairies is a body of trust. > > This is mostly an activity done by the lug. Of course if we > ambassadors provide enough materials/translation to. > > Im eager to do it right away in Strasbourg. But comparing to another > distros like ubuntu,suse,etc they already have enough materials in > their pocket. Example, live cds. I prefer to wait for Fedora to catch > up with materials. > > Let's take for example, Fedora. If a lug happens to realise this > project. Among other distros we will only have handouts and Fedora > DVDs. Meanwhile students or anyone will prefer to give a try to live > cds, leaving Fedora behind. Saying that this particular live distro is > based on Fedora isn't enough for the complete newbies. It would rather > be useless. If someone tried the "official" fedora LIVE cd if he/she > likes it he/she can easily get the install DVD for free for their > local lug or lug ambassador or from the library directly. > > Some testimonials: > http://ask.slashdot.org/askslashdot/04/04/16/1923248.shtml?tid=137&tid=185&tid=215 > http://slashdot.org/articles/03/12/15/193231.shtml?tid=146&tid=149&tid=99 > > Since in the last 3 meetings (see > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Schedule ) we didn't really > progress in Emails, funds, Schwag because we are waiting for > additional info. I suggest we talk and plan about this idea. I know > ambassadors from India or Brazil will have alot to say :)) > > I know we (majority)ambassadors we only popped in during meetings > hours, talk and talk. This sounds like acting. Its time to move A55 :) > for REAL action. > > Chitlesh GOORAH > > > -- > http://clunixchit.blogspot.com > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- Cheers, Robert C. Whetsel - CEO & Founder Fedora Global Ambassador RavenSong Open Technologies, Inc. DBA: The Raven Group (1992) Open Source Architects Specializing in Enterprise Linux Business Solutions Frederick Innovative Technology Center 401 Rosemont Avenue Frederick, MD 21701 301.898.3817 www.ravensong.com From thulshof at gmail.com Sat Jan 14 15:39:47 2006 From: thulshof at gmail.com (Thijs) Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 16:39:47 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Idea: Fedora in Library In-Reply-To: <1137248986.43c90adb0063b@mail.ravensong.com> References: <13dbfe4f0601131440p5fb1a478t503a835736e19d99@mail.gmail.com> <1137248986.43c90adb0063b@mail.ravensong.com> Message-ID: <9590b2a80601140739m5ce63d16y710d33180a685982@mail.gmail.com> @Chitlesh: We can also try te get some Fedora-related books* in the libraries. I'm living in a small town with a very small library, but I think it is possible to request books at bigger libraries. If I didn't have a book about Linux when I began with it, I probably wouldn't have survived my first Linux-experience :-) And what does a 'Project Leader' have to do? - Thijs * http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Books/FedoraBooks On 1/14/06, Robert Whetsel wrote: > > Chitlesh, > > spot on! > > Quoting Chitlesh GOORAH : > > > Hello everyone, > > I think im going to write a lot lol. > > Ok an Ubuntu marketing agent told me about their idea of having Ubuntu > > in Libraries. > > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuInLibraries > > No, its not about installing Ubuntu in the computers but to lend Open > > source cds to their subscribed users. Actually they copied it from > > Openoffice. > > > > http://www.openoffice.org/nonav/issues/showattachment.cgi/11838/Open%20Source%20CD%20in%20libraries%20Howto.pdf > > > > Personally its a wonderful idea because having CDS in libraries will > > affect the complete newbies mind set of fear towards linux. > > Considering the fact that librairies is a body of trust. > > > > This is mostly an activity done by the lug. Of course if we > > ambassadors provide enough materials/translation to. > > > > Im eager to do it right away in Strasbourg. But comparing to another > > distros like ubuntu,suse,etc they already have enough materials in > > their pocket. Example, live cds. I prefer to wait for Fedora to catch > > up with materials. > > > > Let's take for example, Fedora. If a lug happens to realise this > > project. Among other distros we will only have handouts and Fedora > > DVDs. Meanwhile students or anyone will prefer to give a try to live > > cds, leaving Fedora behind. Saying that this particular live distro is > > based on Fedora isn't enough for the complete newbies. It would rather > > be useless. If someone tried the "official" fedora LIVE cd if he/she > > likes it he/she can easily get the install DVD for free for their > > local lug or lug ambassador or from the library directly. > > > > Some testimonials: > > > > http://ask.slashdot.org/askslashdot/04/04/16/1923248.shtml?tid=137&tid=185&tid=215 > > > http://slashdot.org/articles/03/12/15/193231.shtml?tid=146&tid=149&tid=99 > > > > Since in the last 3 meetings (see > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Schedule ) we didn't really > > progress in Emails, funds, Schwag because we are waiting for > > additional info. I suggest we talk and plan about this idea. I know > > ambassadors from India or Brazil will have alot to say :)) > > > > I know we (majority)ambassadors we only popped in during meetings > > hours, talk and talk. This sounds like acting. Its time to move A55 :) > > for REAL action. > > > > Chitlesh GOORAH > > > > > > -- > > http://clunixchit.blogspot.com > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > -- > Cheers, > > Robert C. Whetsel - CEO & Founder > Fedora Global Ambassador > > RavenSong Open Technologies, Inc. > DBA: The Raven Group (1992) > Open Source Architects Specializing in > Enterprise Linux Business Solutions > > Frederick Innovative Technology Center > 401 Rosemont Avenue > Frederick, MD 21701 > 301.898.3817 > www.ravensong.com > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nayyares at gmail.com Sat Jan 14 16:38:42 2006 From: nayyares at gmail.com (Nayyar Ahmed) Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 21:38:42 +0500 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Idea: Fedora in Library In-Reply-To: <9590b2a80601140739m5ce63d16y710d33180a685982@mail.gmail.com> References: <13dbfe4f0601131440p5fb1a478t503a835736e19d99@mail.gmail.com> <1137248986.43c90adb0063b@mail.ravensong.com> <9590b2a80601140739m5ce63d16y710d33180a685982@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8e1ee2a30601140838g44de1d13ge189906b604b6ed5@mail.gmail.com> Hi, My suggestion is that, it will be more beneficial if we provide these material in Univerisitie's Libraries, where students can take these cds and after use/installation they will return back, also i would like to make a point here that there should be an Ambassador country wise who lead all the other Ambassador from that country, that will help us to assess any Ambassador demand and activities in that country. thanks On 1/14/06, Thijs wrote: > @Chitlesh: We can also try te get some Fedora-related books* in the > libraries. I'm living in a small town with a very small library, but I think > it is possible to request books at bigger libraries. > > If I didn't have a book about Linux when I began with it, I probably > wouldn't have survived my first Linux-experience :-) > > And what does a 'Project Leader' have to do? > > - Thijs > > * http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Books/FedoraBooks > > > On 1/14/06, Robert Whetsel wrote: > > Chitlesh, > > > > spot on! > > > > Quoting Chitlesh GOORAH : > > > > > Hello everyone, > > > I think im going to write a lot lol. > > > Ok an Ubuntu marketing agent told me about their idea of having Ubuntu > > > in Libraries. > > > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuInLibraries > > > No, its not about installing Ubuntu in the computers but to lend Open > > > source cds to their subscribed users. Actually they copied it from > > > Openoffice. > > > > > > http://www.openoffice.org/nonav/issues/showattachment.cgi/11838/Open%20Source%20CD%20in%20libraries%20Howto.pdf > > > > > > Personally its a wonderful idea because having CDS in libraries will > > > affect the complete newbies mind set of fear towards linux. > > > Considering the fact that librairies is a body of trust. > > > > > > This is mostly an activity done by the lug. Of course if we > > > ambassadors provide enough materials/translation to. > > > > > > Im eager to do it right away in Strasbourg. But comparing to another > > > distros like ubuntu,suse,etc they already have enough materials in > > > their pocket. Example, live cds. I prefer to wait for Fedora to catch > > > up with materials. > > > > > > Let's take for example, Fedora. If a lug happens to realise this > > > project. Among other distros we will only have handouts and Fedora > > > DVDs. Meanwhile students or anyone will prefer to give a try to live > > > cds, leaving Fedora behind. Saying that this particular live distro is > > > based on Fedora isn't enough for the complete newbies. It would rather > > > be useless. If someone tried the "official" fedora LIVE cd if he/she > > > likes it he/she can easily get the install DVD for free for their > > > local lug or lug ambassador or from the library directly. > > > > > > Some testimonials: > > > > > > http://ask.slashdot.org/askslashdot/04/04/16/1923248.shtml?tid=137&tid=185&tid=215 > > > > http://slashdot.org/articles/03/12/15/193231.shtml?tid=146&tid=149&tid=99 > > > > > > Since in the last 3 meetings (see > > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Schedule ) we > didn't really > > > progress in Emails, funds, Schwag because we are waiting for > > > additional info. I suggest we talk and plan about this idea. I know > > > ambassadors from India or Brazil will have alot to say :)) > > > > > > I know we (majority)ambassadors we only popped in during meetings > > > hours, talk and talk. This sounds like acting. Its time to move A55 :) > > > for REAL action. > > > > > > Chitlesh GOORAH > > > > > > > > > -- > > > http://clunixchit.blogspot.com > > > > > > -- > > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > > > > > -- > > Cheers, > > > > Robert C. Whetsel - CEO & Founder > > Fedora Global Ambassador > > > > RavenSong Open Technologies, Inc. > > DBA: The Raven Group (1992) > > Open Source Architects Specializing in > > Enterprise Linux Business Solutions > > > > Frederick Innovative Technology Center > > 401 Rosemont Avenue > > Frederick, MD 21701 > > 301.898.3817 > > www.ravensong.com > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > -- Nayyar Ahmad CEO, OSSP, Pakistan. Email: nayyar at ossp.com.pk Cell: +92 333 9139461 Office: +92 91 5846548 Web: www.ossp.com.pk From redbyte.labs at gmail.com Sat Jan 14 17:02:09 2006 From: redbyte.labs at gmail.com (REDbyte Labs) Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 22:02:09 +0500 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Fedora-based Distro Message-ID: Hi all! Some days ago I had a talk with representive of United Nations Development Programme (Damir Amirov) here in Uzbekistan, they are really interested in Linux and OSS, and they planning to lauch a linux project by the end of the year. So together we had a look on existing distros and guessed that none matches for local users, and Damir offered to create team and make own distro. Sure, I offered fedora and rpm system as basis or maybe mandriva. It should be a 1CD distro with friendly GUI, and fully localized. So can we use Fedora Core 4 as basis for making National Operatning System? Or it would be illegal and we shouldn't do it? 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And they can also make a copy :) > also i would > like to make a point here that there should be an Ambassador country > wise who lead all the other Ambassador from that country, that will > help us to assess any Ambassador demand and activities in that > country. > > If I didn't have a book about Linux when I began with it, I probably > > wouldn't have survived my first Linux-experience :-) > > True again. The idea of having the install cds and live cds will attract more audience than giving them books to read. Its more exciting to get started right away intuitively :) > > And what does a 'Project Leader' have to do? answering Thijs and Nayyar suggestion, the "Project Leaders" is meaningly. I prefer Nayyar suggestion saying that each ambassador will be the "FedoraLibraries" Leader in their respective country. -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com From tejasdinkar at gmail.com Sat Jan 14 17:15:06 2006 From: tejasdinkar at gmail.com (Tejas Dinkar) Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 22:45:06 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Fedora-based Distro In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1137258906.29222.31.camel@linuxbox> On Sat, 2006-01-14 at 22:02 +0500, REDbyte Labs wrote: > Hi all! Some days ago I had a talk with representive of United > Nations Development Programme (Damir Amirov) here in Uzbekistan, they > are really interested in Linux and OSS, Wow!!! That is So c00L!!!! > and they planning to lauch a linux project by the end of the year. So > together we had a look on existing distros and guessed that none > matches for local users, and Damir offered to create team and make own > distro. Good Luck. It is very important to create localised versions. However, remember this: if you make some changes to a program to include your language, tell the original makers of the program, so that they can also use your changes > So can we use Fedora Core 4 as basis for making National Operatning > System? Or it would be illegal and we shouldn't do it? Please Remember that Fedora, and everything that is included in it is free software. Free as in Freedom, You have the freedom to modify it as you wish. However, modifying the packages may be tricky. Most of the packages in the Fedora Core are GPLed. This means that you can change the package as you wish. However, you must release the source code of the new package to the public as well. I think this applies to Fedora Core itself (although I'm not sure)... If you change Fedora Core, you must explain how. Gja -- Tejas Dinkar - tejasdinkar AT gmail DOT com Brain off-line, please wait. From chitlesh at gmail.com Sat Jan 14 17:18:05 2006 From: chitlesh at gmail.com (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 18:18:05 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Fedora-based Distro In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0601140918u6b0d8928seb890351ea3b0bf1@mail.gmail.com> On 1/14/06, REDbyte Labs wrote: > Hi all! Some days ago I had a talk with representive of United Nations > Development Programme (Damir Amirov) here in Uzbekistan, they are really > interested in Linux and OSS, and they planning to lauch a linux project by > the end of the year. So together we had a look on existing distros and > guessed that none matches for local users, and Damir offered to create team > and make own distro. Sure, I offered fedora and rpm system as basis or maybe > mandriva. It should be a 1CD distro with friendly GUI, and fully localized. > So can we use Fedora Core 4 as basis for making National Operatning System? > Or it would be illegal and we shouldn't do it? > I would propose that instead of working on another distro, why not help kadischi (the fedora live cd tool) ? http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Kadischi The Kadischi project isnt mature enough. finally with Kadischi you can create any localised live cd you may want. -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com From rwhetsel at ravensong.com Sat Jan 14 17:24:39 2006 From: rwhetsel at ravensong.com (Robert Whetsel) Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 12:24:39 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Fedora-based Distro In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1137259479.43c933d7915a5@mail.ravensong.com> Quoting REDbyte Labs : > Hi all! Some days ago I had a talk with representive of United Nations > Development Programme (Damir Amirov) here in Uzbekistan, they are really > interested in Linux and OSS, and they planning to lauch a linux project by > the end of the year. So together we had a look on existing distros and > guessed that none matches for local users, and Damir offered to create team > and make own distro. 1. What are the user requirements? 2. If current distros do not meet their needs; then a requirement evaluation (Discovery) is needed, because each distro has the ability to be what the user wants or needs. Sure, I offered fedora and rpm system as basis or maybe > mandriva. It should be a 1CD distro with friendly GUI, and fully localized. > So can we use Fedora Core 4 as basis for making National Operatning System? > Or it would be illegal and we shouldn't do it? 3. If reinvent is the results of the Discovery then follow http://www.linuxbase.org/ Contact me directly, this is where my company assists others in the migration process. rwhetsel at ravensong.com > > Regards, > > Kirill "REDbyte" Novikov > -- Cheers, Robert C. Whetsel - CEO & Founder Fedora Global Ambassador RavenSong Open Technologies, Inc. DBA: The Raven Group (1992) Open Source Architects Specializing in Enterprise Linux Business Solutions Frederick Innovative Technology Center 401 Rosemont Avenue Frederick, MD 21701 301.898.3817 www.ravensong.com From redbyte.labs at gmail.com Sat Jan 14 18:18:44 2006 From: redbyte.labs at gmail.com (REDbyte Labs) Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 23:18:44 +0500 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Fedora-based Distro In-Reply-To: <1137259479.43c933d7915a5@mail.ravensong.com> References: <1137259479.43c933d7915a5@mail.ravensong.com> Message-ID: Thanks for advice. Project now is on the stage of brainstorm. We generate ideas. I would take a look at kadischi, maybe it is just what we need. Guys from UN ready to finance development so I think we could find professional translators... Nearly all unixoids here speak russian, so it's quite a big problem to translate OS on language wich we don't know. Another problem is that there are lots of "weak" PCs. So we would need some window manager, wich doesn't require many resources. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From chitlesh at gmail.com Sat Jan 14 18:35:24 2006 From: chitlesh at gmail.com (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 19:35:24 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Fedora-based Distro In-Reply-To: References: <1137259479.43c933d7915a5@mail.ravensong.com> Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0601141035v3a74bf13r1cc2977068610b0b@mail.gmail.com> > Thanks for advice. Project now is on the stage of brainstorm. We generate > ideas. I would take a look at kadischi, maybe it is just what we need. Do keep in touch with me if you plan in playing with Kadischi. Ill be happy to introduce you to Hartline, he needs backing to do coding with Kadischi. > Guys from UN ready to finance development so I think we could find professional > translators... for the moment we already have the French and Swedish translations for Kadischi Documentation. > Nearly all unixoids here speak russian, so it's quite a big > problem to translate OS on language wich we don't know. Another problem is > that there are lots of "weak" PCs. So we would need some window manager, > wich doesn't require many resources. At least if we get the english translations, its enough. Afterwards the Fedora Community will translate it :) -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com From redbyte.labs at gmail.com Sat Jan 14 18:50:59 2006 From: redbyte.labs at gmail.com (REDbyte Labs) Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 23:50:59 +0500 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Fedora-based Distro In-Reply-To: <13dbfe4f0601141035v3a74bf13r1cc2977068610b0b@mail.gmail.com> References: <1137259479.43c933d7915a5@mail.ravensong.com> <13dbfe4f0601141035v3a74bf13r1cc2977068610b0b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: If you would need Russian translator for LiveCD - I'm ready to help. Regards, Kirill "REDbyte" Novikov 2006/1/14, Chitlesh GOORAH : > > > Thanks for advice. Project now is on the stage of brainstorm. We > generate > > ideas. I would take a look at kadischi, maybe it is just what we need. > > Do keep in touch with me if you plan in playing with Kadischi. Ill be > happy to introduce you to Hartline, he needs backing to do coding with > Kadischi. > > > Guys from UN ready to finance development so I think we could find > professional > > translators... > > for the moment we already have the French and Swedish translations for > Kadischi Documentation. > > > Nearly all unixoids here speak russian, so it's quite a big > > problem to translate OS on language wich we don't know. Another problem > is > > that there are lots of "weak" PCs. So we would need some window manager, > > wich doesn't require many resources. > > At least if we get the english translations, its enough. Afterwards > the Fedora Community will translate it :) > > > -- > http://clunixchit.blogspot.com > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From chitlesh at gmail.com Sat Jan 14 18:55:23 2006 From: chitlesh at gmail.com (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 19:55:23 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Fedora-based Distro In-Reply-To: References: <1137259479.43c933d7915a5@mail.ravensong.com> <13dbfe4f0601141035v3a74bf13r1cc2977068610b0b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0601141055l7160205ek2d2d80a807d3c2af@mail.gmail.com> On 1/14/06, REDbyte Labs wrote: > If you would need Russian translator for LiveCD - I'm ready to help. I won't say no :) Since the contents of wikipages changes constantly, Ill advice you for the moment to translate http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Kadischi/Documentation . For example the French translation : http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/fr_FR/Outils/Kadischi/RapportBogues if you want to talk more about kadischi, please let's move to the livecd maillist list :) -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com From chitlesh at gmail.com Sun Jan 15 00:22:52 2006 From: chitlesh at gmail.com (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 01:22:52 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] events In-Reply-To: <1137240350.3196.31.camel@NB-Fedora.homenet.local> References: <1137240350.3196.31.camel@NB-Fedora.homenet.local> Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0601141622t1220626bw72e11c87aa87ca39@mail.gmail.com> > The good thing in that case is; I've maybe more time to go to the FUDCon > on the Linuxtag and on the Linuxtag himself in Germany (Wiesbaden). > > Does anybody have a hotel recommendation for me at Wiesbaden??? Revenge in progress: my gf will support Kubuntu in whatever booth. She's corrupted :). So Its most likely for me to be present for the Fedora Project. (though I don't speak German) Gerold Ill be besides you for at least 1 day. Linuxtag is really something big. If this time there will be a FUDCon too, Ill be glad to present Kadischi :) -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com From sundaram at redhat.com Sun Jan 15 06:44:33 2006 From: sundaram at redhat.com (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 12:14:33 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Fedora-based Distro In-Reply-To: <1137258906.29222.31.camel@linuxbox> References: <1137258906.29222.31.camel@linuxbox> Message-ID: <43C9EF51.2070507@redhat.com> Hi >. > >However, modifying the packages may be tricky. Most of the packages in >the Fedora Core are GPLed. This means that you can change the package as >you wish. However, you must release the source code of the new package >to the public as well. > > Slightly incorrect. You only have to distribute the code or make an offer to distribute code if you distribute binaries to a third party. >I think this applies to Fedora Core itself (although I'm not sure)... > Within the current trademark guidelines, if you modify Fedora you just cannot call it Fedora and if you modify specific programs then the copyright license of those programs apply. -- Rahul Fedora Bug Triaging - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers From nayyares at gmail.com Sun Jan 15 17:26:54 2006 From: nayyares at gmail.com (Nayyar Ahmed) Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 22:26:54 +0500 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Fedora in URDU. Message-ID: <8e1ee2a30601150926g62a5a939h2d0f48d5383f3c94@mail.gmail.com> Hello All, I want to produce Fedora in URDU Language, which is Pakistan's National Language and defiantly it will give a good chance, that the low educated people, or those who have problem with English can use Open Source Operating System, but i want to know the process, that how can i change English language Fedora Distro to URDU, while i have seen Punjabi version, i was really impressed by that guys work(one of the Fedora Ambassador), if he can help me, or any other in the list. Thanks -- Nayyar Ahmad CEO, OSSP, Pakistan. Email: nayyar at ossp.com.pk Cell: +92 333 9139461 Office: +92 91 5846548 Web: www.ossp.com.pk From sundaram at redhat.com Sun Jan 15 17:30:36 2006 From: sundaram at redhat.com (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 23:00:36 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Fedora in URDU. In-Reply-To: <8e1ee2a30601150926g62a5a939h2d0f48d5383f3c94@mail.gmail.com> References: <8e1ee2a30601150926g62a5a939h2d0f48d5383f3c94@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43CA86BC.3050905@redhat.com> Nayyar Ahmed wrote: >Hello All, > >I want to produce Fedora in URDU Language, which is Pakistan's >National Language and defiantly it will give a good chance, that the >low educated people, or those who have problem with English can use >Open Source Operating System, but i want to know the process, that how >can i change English language Fedora Distro to URDU, while i have seen >Punjabi version, i was really impressed by that guys work(one of the >Fedora Ambassador), if he can help me, or any other in the list. > > > Aman Alam who did the punjabi work is one of the leads of the translation project. See http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N for the details on this effort. -- Rahul Fedora Bug Triaging - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers From roozbeh at farsiweb.info Sun Jan 15 17:50:38 2006 From: roozbeh at farsiweb.info (Roozbeh Pournader) Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 21:20:38 +0330 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Fedora in URDU. In-Reply-To: <8e1ee2a30601150926g62a5a939h2d0f48d5383f3c94@mail.gmail.com> References: <8e1ee2a30601150926g62a5a939h2d0f48d5383f3c94@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1137347438.15239.20.camel@tameshk.farsiweb.info> On Sun, 2006-01-15 at 22:26 +0500, Nayyar Ahmed wrote: > I want to produce Fedora in URDU Language, [...] Will Fedora need a Nastaliq font for Urdu? If yes, would you care to see if there is a free/open source Nastaliq font we can distribute in Fedora? If not, do you know a free/open source font that includes glyphs required for Urdu? roozbeh From nayyares at gmail.com Sun Jan 15 18:22:28 2006 From: nayyares at gmail.com (Nayyar Ahmed) Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 23:22:28 +0500 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Fedora in URDU. In-Reply-To: <1137347438.15239.20.camel@tameshk.farsiweb.info> References: <8e1ee2a30601150926g62a5a939h2d0f48d5383f3c94@mail.gmail.com> <1137347438.15239.20.camel@tameshk.farsiweb.info> Message-ID: <8e1ee2a30601151022h16f06c5x7cb8af1df2ceac52@mail.gmail.com> On 1/15/06, Roozbeh Pournader wrote: > On Sun, 2006-01-15 at 22:26 +0500, Nayyar Ahmed wrote: > > I want to produce Fedora in URDU Language, [...] > > Will Fedora need a Nastaliq font for Urdu? If yes, would you care to see > if there is a free/open source Nastaliq font we can distribute in > Fedora? If not, do you know a free/open source font that includes glyphs http://www.crulp.org/English%20Site/main.html > required for Urdu? > > roozbeh > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- Nayyar Ahmad CEO, OSSP, Pakistan. Email: nayyar at ossp.com.pk Cell: +92 333 9139461 Office: +92 91 5846548 Web: www.ossp.com.pk From roozbeh at farsiweb.info Sun Jan 15 18:49:25 2006 From: roozbeh at farsiweb.info (Roozbeh Pournader) Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 22:19:25 +0330 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Fedora in URDU. In-Reply-To: <8e1ee2a30601151022h16f06c5x7cb8af1df2ceac52@mail.gmail.com> References: <8e1ee2a30601150926g62a5a939h2d0f48d5383f3c94@mail.gmail.com> <1137347438.15239.20.camel@tameshk.farsiweb.info> <8e1ee2a30601151022h16f06c5x7cb8af1df2ceac52@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1137350965.15239.25.camel@tameshk.farsiweb.info> On Sun, 2006-01-15 at 23:22 +0500, Nayyar Ahmed wrote: > http://www.crulp.org/English%20Site/main.html Three of the font on the website are not free software/open source, and cannot be included in Fedora. http://www.crulp.org/nafeesNastaleeq.html http://www.crulp.org/nafeesNaskh.html http://www.crulp.org/nafeesPakistaniNaskh.html There is only one font there with a license suitable for Fedora: http://www.crulp.org/nafeesWebNaskh.html Could you check and see if it works fine on Fedora and if it is suitable for using as the user interface font? roozbeh From nayyares at gmail.com Sun Jan 15 18:59:48 2006 From: nayyares at gmail.com (Nayyar Ahmed) Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 23:59:48 +0500 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Fedora in URDU. In-Reply-To: <1137350965.15239.25.camel@tameshk.farsiweb.info> References: <8e1ee2a30601150926g62a5a939h2d0f48d5383f3c94@mail.gmail.com> <1137347438.15239.20.camel@tameshk.farsiweb.info> <8e1ee2a30601151022h16f06c5x7cb8af1df2ceac52@mail.gmail.com> <1137350965.15239.25.camel@tameshk.farsiweb.info> Message-ID: <8e1ee2a30601151059v3a78a019udaf34d6b77959c5b@mail.gmail.com> On 1/15/06, Roozbeh Pournader wrote: > On Sun, 2006-01-15 at 23:22 +0500, Nayyar Ahmed wrote: > > http://www.crulp.org/English%20Site/main.html > > Three of the font on the website are not free software/open source, and > cannot be included in Fedora. I have emailed them and hope fully make them agree to release these fonts as GPL. while you can check http://www.crulp.org/English%20Site/main.html > > http://www.crulp.org/nafeesNastaleeq.html > http://www.crulp.org/nafeesNaskh.html > http://www.crulp.org/nafeesPakistaniNaskh.html > > There is only one font there with a license suitable for Fedora: > > http://www.crulp.org/nafeesWebNaskh.html > > Could you check and see if it works fine on Fedora and if it is suitable > for using as the user interface font? > > roozbeh > > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- Nayyar Ahmad CEO, OSSP, Pakistan. Email: nayyar at ossp.com.pk Cell: +92 333 9139461 Office: +92 91 5846548 Web: www.ossp.com.pk From tejasdinkar at gmail.com Sun Jan 15 19:06:29 2006 From: tejasdinkar at gmail.com (Tejas Dinkar) Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 00:36:29 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Fedora in URDU. In-Reply-To: <8e1ee2a30601151059v3a78a019udaf34d6b77959c5b@mail.gmail.com> References: <8e1ee2a30601150926g62a5a939h2d0f48d5383f3c94@mail.gmail.com> <1137347438.15239.20.camel@tameshk.farsiweb.info> <8e1ee2a30601151022h16f06c5x7cb8af1df2ceac52@mail.gmail.com> <1137350965.15239.25.camel@tameshk.farsiweb.info> <8e1ee2a30601151059v3a78a019udaf34d6b77959c5b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1137351989.3045.17.camel@linuxbox> On Sun, 2006-01-15 at 23:59 +0500, Nayyar Ahmed wrote: > I have emailed them and hope fully make them agree to release these > fonts as GPL. while you can check > http://www.crulp.org/English%20Site/main.html GPL does not apply for Fonts as they are not programs, that can be derived from source code. Instead you want a Creative Commons License, or one of the other Free Licenses for Fonts Gja -- Tejas Dinkar - tejasdinkar AT gmail DOT com Profanity is the one language all programmers know best. From sundaram at redhat.com Sun Jan 15 19:20:03 2006 From: sundaram at redhat.com (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 00:50:03 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Fedora in URDU. In-Reply-To: <1137351989.3045.17.camel@linuxbox> References: <8e1ee2a30601150926g62a5a939h2d0f48d5383f3c94@mail.gmail.com> <1137347438.15239.20.camel@tameshk.farsiweb.info> <8e1ee2a30601151022h16f06c5x7cb8af1df2ceac52@mail.gmail.com> <1137350965.15239.25.camel@tameshk.farsiweb.info> <8e1ee2a30601151059v3a78a019udaf34d6b77959c5b@mail.gmail.com> <1137351989.3045.17.camel@linuxbox> Message-ID: <43CAA063.1030208@redhat.com> Tejas Dinkar wrote: >On Sun, 2006-01-15 at 23:59 +0500, Nayyar Ahmed wrote: > > >>I have emailed them and hope fully make them agree to release these >>fonts as GPL. while you can check >>http://www.crulp.org/English%20Site/main.html >> >> > >GPL does not apply for Fonts as they are not programs, that can be >derived from source code. > > > GPL can very well apply for fonts too or even documentation though FSF recommends against it. See the following references for more details. http://www.fsf.org/licensing/licenses/gpl-faq.html#TOCFontException http://www.fsf.org/licensing/licenses/gpl-faq.html#TOCWhyNotGPLForManuals -- Rahul Fedora Bug Triaging - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers From sundaram at redhat.com Sun Jan 15 19:25:02 2006 From: sundaram at redhat.com (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 00:55:02 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Fedora Projects Weekly Report Message-ID: <43CAA18E.6080004@redhat.com> Hi Beginning this week, We have a new effort in place to project timely and crisp weekly reports for everyone in the Fedora community to gather information on the happenings in the Fedora universe in a easily digestible and referenceable format. Enjoy it at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Projects/WeeklyReports/ This will be part of and compliment the existing weekly news in http://fedoranews.org and published in fedora-announce list. Thanks for those who already signed up as report writers - Fedora Release Engineer, Jesse Keating, and Fedora Ambassador, Tejas Dinker in a short notice of few hours. Thanks to our newly elected fearless Fedora Extras Steering Committee chair, Thorsten Leemhuis for providing this week's report on Fedora Extras project. Special credits to Fedora Ambassador, Chitlesh Goorah for initiating the report on the Kadischi, Fedora Live CD project and providing excellent look and feel with some wiki magic. Please continue the good work. We expect to pick up more content from report writers and translators in the near future. Contributions and feedback is as always most welcome. Don't hesitate to contact me off list if you need any specific help with your contributions. -- Rahul Fedora Bug Triaging - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers From halaba at o2.pl Sun Jan 15 20:14:23 2006 From: halaba at o2.pl (Merlin) Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 21:14:23 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Pld linux Message-ID: <43CAAD1F.7050807@o2.pl> http://pld.wmid.amu.edu.pl/ oficial site of the place were i want talkj about Fedora COre http://faq.fedora.pl/ is a material what I use to talk about fedora core. its about me lasy email when i want money for trip From j.phulewala at gmail.com Mon Jan 16 04:41:26 2006 From: j.phulewala at gmail.com (Jaswinder Singh) Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 10:11:26 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Fedora in URDU. In-Reply-To: <8e1ee2a30601150926g62a5a939h2d0f48d5383f3c94@mail.gmail.com> References: <8e1ee2a30601150926g62a5a939h2d0f48d5383f3c94@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43CB23F6.9030304@gmail.com> Nayyar Ahmed wrote: >Hello All, > >I want to produce Fedora in URDU Language, which is Pakistan's >National Language and defiantly it will give a good chance, that the >low educated people, or those who have problem with English can use >Open Source Operating System, but i want to know the process, that how >can i change English language Fedora Distro to URDU, while i have seen >Punjabi version, i was really impressed by that guys work(one of the >Fedora Ambassador), if he can help me, or any other in the list. > > > Well Nayyares it is very nice to start work for urdu you will have to use simply po files for start localization as other teams are using. We are also starting work for Fedora in Shahmukhi. cheers Jassy Team Member, Punjab Linux Technology Group Moga-142001 Punjab-(INDIA) >Thanks >-- >Nayyar Ahmad >CEO, OSSP, Pakistan. >Email: nayyar at ossp.com.pk >Cell: +92 333 9139461 >Office: +92 91 5846548 >Web: www.ossp.com.pk > >-- >Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > From nayyares at gmail.com Mon Jan 16 05:13:44 2006 From: nayyares at gmail.com (Nayyar Ahmed) Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 10:13:44 +0500 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Fedora in URDU. In-Reply-To: <43CB23F6.9030304@gmail.com> References: <8e1ee2a30601150926g62a5a939h2d0f48d5383f3c94@mail.gmail.com> <43CB23F6.9030304@gmail.com> Message-ID: <8e1ee2a30601152113i806a68cj78572f546ce340d8@mail.gmail.com> Hi Jaswinder, The problem is with URDU fonts, although they are funded project but still it is not GPL :(, i am trying to convince them for GPL release, Thanks for your reply, i will be in contact to you. On 1/16/06, Jaswinder Singh wrote: > Nayyar Ahmed wrote: > > >Hello All, > > > >I want to produce Fedora in URDU Language, which is Pakistan's > >National Language and defiantly it will give a good chance, that the > >low educated people, or those who have problem with English can use > >Open Source Operating System, but i want to know the process, that how > >can i change English language Fedora Distro to URDU, while i have seen > >Punjabi version, i was really impressed by that guys work(one of the > >Fedora Ambassador), if he can help me, or any other in the list. > > > > > > > Well Nayyares > it is very nice to start work for urdu you will have to use simply > po files for start localization as other teams are using. We are also > starting work for Fedora in Shahmukhi. > > cheers > Jassy > Team Member, > Punjab Linux Technology Group > Moga-142001 > Punjab-(INDIA) > > >Thanks > >-- > >Nayyar Ahmad > >CEO, OSSP, Pakistan. > >Email: nayyar at ossp.com.pk > >Cell: +92 333 9139461 > >Office: +92 91 5846548 > >Web: www.ossp.com.pk > > > >-- > >Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > >Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > >https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- Nayyar Ahmad CEO, OSSP, Pakistan. Email: nayyar at ossp.com.pk Cell: +92 333 9139461 Office: +92 91 5846548 Web: www.ossp.com.pk From nayyares at gmail.com Mon Jan 16 06:32:42 2006 From: nayyares at gmail.com (Nayyar Ahmed) Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 11:32:42 +0500 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Fedora in URDU. In-Reply-To: <8e1ee2a30601152113i806a68cj78572f546ce340d8@mail.gmail.com> References: <8e1ee2a30601150926g62a5a939h2d0f48d5383f3c94@mail.gmail.com> <43CB23F6.9030304@gmail.com> <8e1ee2a30601152113i806a68cj78572f546ce340d8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8e1ee2a30601152232m505c3649td266965ac809cb05@mail.gmail.com> Hi, Following is the link for URDU Fonts license, please check out, whether it fit to Fedora translation project. http://www.crulp.org/English%20Site/main.html thanks On 1/16/06, Nayyar Ahmed wrote: > Hi Jaswinder, > > The problem is with URDU fonts, although they are funded project but > still it is not GPL :(, i am trying to convince them for GPL release, > Thanks for your reply, i will be in contact to you. > > On 1/16/06, Jaswinder Singh wrote: > > Nayyar Ahmed wrote: > > > > >Hello All, > > > > > >I want to produce Fedora in URDU Language, which is Pakistan's > > >National Language and defiantly it will give a good chance, that the > > >low educated people, or those who have problem with English can use > > >Open Source Operating System, but i want to know the process, that how > > >can i change English language Fedora Distro to URDU, while i have seen > > >Punjabi version, i was really impressed by that guys work(one of the > > >Fedora Ambassador), if he can help me, or any other in the list. > > > > > > > > > > > Well Nayyares > > it is very nice to start work for urdu you will have to use simply > > po files for start localization as other teams are using. We are also > > starting work for Fedora in Shahmukhi. > > > > cheers > > Jassy > > Team Member, > > Punjab Linux Technology Group > > Moga-142001 > > Punjab-(INDIA) > > > > >Thanks > > >-- > > >Nayyar Ahmad > > >CEO, OSSP, Pakistan. > > >Email: nayyar at ossp.com.pk > > >Cell: +92 333 9139461 > > >Office: +92 91 5846548 > > >Web: www.ossp.com.pk > > > > > >-- > > >Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > >Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > >https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > -- > Nayyar Ahmad > CEO, OSSP, Pakistan. > Email: nayyar at ossp.com.pk > Cell: +92 333 9139461 > Office: +92 91 5846548 > Web: www.ossp.com.pk > -- Nayyar Ahmad CEO, OSSP, Pakistan. Email: nayyar at ossp.com.pk Cell: +92 333 9139461 Office: +92 91 5846548 Web: www.ossp.com.pk From sankarshan.mukhopadhyay at gmail.com Mon Jan 16 07:37:32 2006 From: sankarshan.mukhopadhyay at gmail.com (Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay) Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 13:07:32 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Fedora in URDU. In-Reply-To: <1137351989.3045.17.camel@linuxbox> References: <8e1ee2a30601150926g62a5a939h2d0f48d5383f3c94@mail.gmail.com> <1137347438.15239.20.camel@tameshk.farsiweb.info> <8e1ee2a30601151022h16f06c5x7cb8af1df2ceac52@mail.gmail.com> <1137350965.15239.25.camel@tameshk.farsiweb.info> <8e1ee2a30601151059v3a78a019udaf34d6b77959c5b@mail.gmail.com> <1137351989.3045.17.camel@linuxbox> Message-ID: <43CB4D3C.1030209@gmail.com> Tejas Dinkar wrote: > On Sun, 2006-01-15 at 23:59 +0500, Nayyar Ahmed wrote: > >>I have emailed them and hope fully make them agree to release these >>fonts as GPL. while you can check >>http://www.crulp.org/English%20Site/main.html > > > GPL does not apply for Fonts as they are not programs, that can be > derived from source code. Oh by jove it does apply. You might want to check the Licensing site of FSF (and I am not a lawyer) Rgds SM -- You see things; and you say 'Why?'; But I dream things that never were; and I say 'Why not?' - George Bernard Shaw From sundaram at redhat.com Mon Jan 16 07:46:27 2006 From: sundaram at redhat.com (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 13:16:27 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Fedora in URDU. In-Reply-To: <8e1ee2a30601152113i806a68cj78572f546ce340d8@mail.gmail.com> References: <8e1ee2a30601150926g62a5a939h2d0f48d5383f3c94@mail.gmail.com> <43CB23F6.9030304@gmail.com> <8e1ee2a30601152113i806a68cj78572f546ce340d8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43CB4F53.6080503@redhat.com> Nayyar Ahmed wrote: >Hi Jaswinder, > >The problem is with URDU fonts, although they are funded project but >still it is not GPL :(, i am trying to convince them for GPL release, >Thanks for your reply, i will be in contact to you. > > It would be much better to provide a LGPL license or a GPL license with a font exception. http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#FontException -- Rahul Fedora Bug Triaging - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers From tejasdinkar at gmail.com Mon Jan 16 08:18:19 2006 From: tejasdinkar at gmail.com (Tejas Dinkar) Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 13:48:19 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Fedora in URDU. In-Reply-To: <43CB4D3C.1030209@gmail.com> References: <8e1ee2a30601150926g62a5a939h2d0f48d5383f3c94@mail.gmail.com> <1137347438.15239.20.camel@tameshk.farsiweb.info> <8e1ee2a30601151022h16f06c5x7cb8af1df2ceac52@mail.gmail.com> <1137350965.15239.25.camel@tameshk.farsiweb.info> <8e1ee2a30601151059v3a78a019udaf34d6b77959c5b@mail.gmail.com> <1137351989.3045.17.camel@linuxbox> <43CB4D3C.1030209@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1137399499.2907.5.camel@linuxbox> On Mon, 2006-01-16 at 13:07 +0530, Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay wrote: > Oh by jove it does apply. You might want to check the Licensing site of > FSF (and I am not a lawyer) > > Rgds > SM >From the GPL faq everyone is linking me to: Font licensing is a complex issue which needs serious consideration. The following license exception is experimental but approved for general use. Note the *emperimental* bit. Why not use a license that is more tested for it. Gja From nayyares at gmail.com Mon Jan 16 08:39:20 2006 From: nayyares at gmail.com (Nayyar Ahmed) Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 00:39:20 -0800 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Fedora in URDU. In-Reply-To: <1137399499.2907.5.camel@linuxbox> References: <8e1ee2a30601150926g62a5a939h2d0f48d5383f3c94@mail.gmail.com> <1137347438.15239.20.camel@tameshk.farsiweb.info> <8e1ee2a30601151022h16f06c5x7cb8af1df2ceac52@mail.gmail.com> <1137350965.15239.25.camel@tameshk.farsiweb.info> <8e1ee2a30601151059v3a78a019udaf34d6b77959c5b@mail.gmail.com> <1137351989.3045.17.camel@linuxbox> <43CB4D3C.1030209@gmail.com> <1137399499.2907.5.camel@linuxbox> Message-ID: <8e1ee2a30601160039u41c14b9ave5c4079d1b267e2b@mail.gmail.com> Hi, The fonts available with exact GPL are here: http://www.crulp.org/English%20Site/main.html but they are for MS Windows, would it be usefull for linux as well? Thanks On 1/16/06, Tejas Dinkar wrote: > On Mon, 2006-01-16 at 13:07 +0530, Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay wrote: > > Oh by jove it does apply. You might want to check the Licensing site of > > FSF (and I am not a lawyer) > > > > Rgds > > SM > > >From the GPL faq everyone is linking me to: > Font licensing is a complex issue which needs serious consideration. The > following license exception is experimental but approved for general > use. > > Note the *emperimental* bit. Why not use a license that is more tested > for it. > > Gja > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- Nayyar Ahmad CEO, OSSP, Pakistan. Email: nayyar at ossp.com.pk Cell: +92 333 9139461 Office: +92 91 5846548 Web: www.ossp.com.pk From sundaram at redhat.com Mon Jan 16 08:40:04 2006 From: sundaram at redhat.com (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 14:10:04 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Fedora in URDU. In-Reply-To: <1137399499.2907.5.camel@linuxbox> References: <8e1ee2a30601150926g62a5a939h2d0f48d5383f3c94@mail.gmail.com> <1137347438.15239.20.camel@tameshk.farsiweb.info> <8e1ee2a30601151022h16f06c5x7cb8af1df2ceac52@mail.gmail.com> <1137350965.15239.25.camel@tameshk.farsiweb.info> <8e1ee2a30601151059v3a78a019udaf34d6b77959c5b@mail.gmail.com> <1137351989.3045.17.camel@linuxbox> <43CB4D3C.1030209@gmail.com> <1137399499.2907.5.camel@linuxbox> Message-ID: <43CB5BE4.6050608@redhat.com> Hi > >Note the *emperimental* bit. Why not use a license that is more tested >for it. > >Gja > IANAL but experimental in this context just means that the particular claus has not been incorporated in the original license and might change in the future. GPL+ font exception gives a specific set of advantages that none of the other licenses seems to have. To be specific if you want your license to be not included in proprietary products but not run into the otherwise accidental results of embedding GPL fonts in private documents this might be a good license. -- Rahul Fedora Bug Triaging - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers From sundaram at redhat.com Mon Jan 16 08:44:47 2006 From: sundaram at redhat.com (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 14:14:47 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Fedora in URDU. In-Reply-To: <8e1ee2a30601160039u41c14b9ave5c4079d1b267e2b@mail.gmail.com> References: <8e1ee2a30601150926g62a5a939h2d0f48d5383f3c94@mail.gmail.com> <1137347438.15239.20.camel@tameshk.farsiweb.info> <8e1ee2a30601151022h16f06c5x7cb8af1df2ceac52@mail.gmail.com> <1137350965.15239.25.camel@tameshk.farsiweb.info> <8e1ee2a30601151059v3a78a019udaf34d6b77959c5b@mail.gmail.com> <1137351989.3045.17.camel@linuxbox> <43CB4D3C.1030209@gmail.com> <1137399499.2907.5.camel@linuxbox> <8e1ee2a30601160039u41c14b9ave5c4079d1b267e2b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43CB5CFF.7010503@redhat.com> Nayyar Ahmed wrote: >Hi, > >The fonts available with exact GPL are here: > >http://www.crulp.org/English%20Site/main.html > >but they are for MS Windows, would it be usefull for linux as well? > >Thanks > Fonts are usually not operating system specific. If its under Unicode encoding and a format acceptable to fontconfig it will work fine. Just drop the font into /usr/share/fonts or ~./fonts and run fc-cache on the terminal and check whether it shows up in the font listing in GTK2+ or QT3 or above based packages that use fontconfig mechanism. -- Rahul Fedora Bug Triaging - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers From sundaram at redhat.com Mon Jan 16 13:57:23 2006 From: sundaram at redhat.com (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 19:27:23 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Getting rid of flags Message-ID: <43CBA643.7070808@redhat.com> Hi We have had the discussion in various places before so I won't repeat them again. Flags are politically loaded. Just avoid using them in the software, documentation etc within the Fedora Project. See http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Languages for the glorious details. If you see any flags being used, consider them a bug and fix them or file a bug report as required. Thanks. -- Rahul Fedora Bug Triaging - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers From sundaram at redhat.com Mon Jan 16 19:47:25 2006 From: sundaram at redhat.com (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 01:17:25 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Ambassadors Business Cards Message-ID: <43CBF84D.5020309@redhat.com> Hi http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/BusinessCards Thanks to http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FredericHornain Can we get this stuff printed asap - FAMSCo? -- Rahul Fedora Bug Triaging - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers From Frederic.Hornain at GB.BE Mon Jan 16 19:58:12 2006 From: Frederic.Hornain at GB.BE (Hornain Frederic) Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 20:58:12 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Ambassadors Business Cards Message-ID: Dear all, Dear Rahul For the moment the picture is not really optimized for printing however I will as soon as possible upload in the Open office 1.0, 2.0 format these buisness Cards. FYI, these ones are tentative Cards and will need to be reviewed before being treated as authoritative. Thanks all for your great help. Feel free to contact me if you have any suggestions. My Best Regards, Friends. Fred -----Original Message----- From: fedora-ambassadors-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:fedora-ambassadors-list-bounces at redhat.com]On Behalf Of Rahul Sundaram Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 8:47 PM To: Ambassadors List; famsco-list at redhat.com Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Ambassadors Business Cards Hi http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/BusinessCards Thanks to http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FredericHornain Can we get this stuff printed asap - FAMSCo? -- Rahul Fedora Bug Triaging - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers -- Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list From tchung at fedora.redhat.com Mon Jan 16 22:32:25 2006 From: tchung at fedora.redhat.com (Thomas Chung) Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 14:32:25 -0800 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Ambassadors Business Cards in OTT In-Reply-To: <43CBF84D.5020309@redhat.com> References: <43CBF84D.5020309@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20060116221648.M69268@fedora.redhat.com> Hi Rahul, I just created Ambassadors Business Cards in OTT (OpenDocument Text Template). http://fedoranews.org/tchung/biz/ Original Blank Template was created by Avery for Word and I simply converted it into OpenOffice.org 2.0 Template. I guess you need to get Avery 8871 (Ink Jet Clean Edge Business Cards) for best result. http://avery.com/us/Main?action=product.Details&catalogcode=WEB01&node=10211397&productcode=8871 Simply right click and choose "Save Link As.." and open it with oowriter. Let me know what you think. :) -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung From sundaram at redhat.com Mon Jan 16 23:00:38 2006 From: sundaram at redhat.com (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 04:30:38 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Ambassadors Business Cards in OTT In-Reply-To: <20060116221648.M69268@fedora.redhat.com> References: <43CBF84D.5020309@redhat.com> <20060116221648.M69268@fedora.redhat.com> Message-ID: <43CC2596.7030501@redhat.com> Thomas Chung wrote: >Hi Rahul, > >I just created Ambassadors Business Cards in OTT (OpenDocument Text Template). > >http://fedoranews.org/tchung/biz/ > >Original Blank Template was created by Avery for Word and I simply converted it into >OpenOffice.org 2.0 Template. I guess you need to get Avery 8871 (Ink Jet Clean Edge >Business Cards) for best result. > >http://avery.com/us/Main?action=product.Details&catalogcode=WEB01&node=10211397&productcode=8871 > >Simply right click and choose "Save Link As.." and open it with oowriter. > >Let me know what you think. :) > > They look pretty neat but I like Fredric Hornain's versions for the artistic value. It has a community feel over it as opposed to professional ones which are just a alias for being sober. Hey, sober has their place (RHEL anyone? ;-) ) but Fedora Project ain't it. --- Rahul Fedora Bug Triaging - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers From tchung at fedora.redhat.com Mon Jan 16 23:04:36 2006 From: tchung at fedora.redhat.com (Thomas Chung) Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 15:04:36 -0800 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Ambassadors Business Cards in OTT In-Reply-To: <43CC2596.7030501@redhat.com> References: <43CBF84D.5020309@redhat.com> <20060116221648.M69268@fedora.redhat.com> <43CC2596.7030501@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20060116230223.M80222@fedora.redhat.com> On Tue, 17 Jan 2006 04:30:38 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote > They look pretty neat but I like Fredric Hornain's versions for the > artistic value. It has a community feel over it as opposed to > professional ones which are just a alias for being sober. Hey, sober has > their place (RHEL anyone? ;-) ) but Fedora Project ain't it. > I like his design Business Card #1 too. Specially the background. :) http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/BusinessCards Should we vote? -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung From mauricio at lm2.com.br Mon Jan 16 23:07:27 2006 From: mauricio at lm2.com.br (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mauricio_Pretto_-_LM=B2?=) Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 21:07:27 -0200 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Ambassadors Business Cards in OTT In-Reply-To: <20060116230223.M80222@fedora.redhat.com> References: <43CBF84D.5020309@redhat.com> <20060116221648.M69268@fedora.redhat.com> <43CC2596.7030501@redhat.com> <20060116230223.M80222@fedora.redhat.com> Message-ID: <43CC272F.70007@lm2.com.br> I like the #3 Mauricio Pretto Consultor de TI 51 8145-9781 LM? Consulting? http://www.lm2.com.br Porto Alegre : 51 3018-1007 S?o Paulo : 11 4062-9956 Plant?o 24hs : 51 8145-2002 Thomas Chung wrote: >On Tue, 17 Jan 2006 04:30:38 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote > > >>They look pretty neat but I like Fredric Hornain's versions for the >>artistic value. It has a community feel over it as opposed to >>professional ones which are just a alias for being sober. Hey, sober has >>their place (RHEL anyone? ;-) ) but Fedora Project ain't it. >> >> >> > >I like his design Business Card #1 too. Specially the background. :) > >http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/BusinessCards > >Should we vote? > >-- >Thomas Chung >http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung > >-- >Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > From mauricio at lm2.com.br Mon Jan 16 23:39:13 2006 From: mauricio at lm2.com.br (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mauricio_Pretto_-_LM=B2?=) Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 21:39:13 -0200 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Total Number of ambassadors Message-ID: <43CC2EA1.1020902@lm2.com.br> What do you think about adding at the bottom of the CountryList the Number of total ambassadors at the moment? Just my 5 cents -- Mauricio Pretto Consultor de TI 51 8145-9781 LM? Consulting? http://www.lm2.com.br Porto Alegre : 51 3018-1007 S?o Paulo : 11 4062-9956 Plant?o 24hs : 51 8145-2002 From sundaram at redhat.com Mon Jan 16 23:43:30 2006 From: sundaram at redhat.com (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 05:13:30 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Total Number of ambassadors In-Reply-To: <43CC2EA1.1020902@lm2.com.br> References: <43CC2EA1.1020902@lm2.com.br> Message-ID: <43CC2FA2.7040600@redhat.com> Mauricio Pretto - LM? wrote: > What do you think about adding at the bottom of the CountryList the > Number of total ambassadors at the moment? > > Just my 5 cents I think thats a nice idea. If we can do it automatically that would be even nicer but go ahead and do it now in the wiki if you want to. -- Rahul Fedora Bug Triaging - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers From mauricio at lm2.com.br Mon Jan 16 23:49:02 2006 From: mauricio at lm2.com.br (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mauricio_Pretto_-_LM=B2?=) Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 21:49:02 -0200 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Total Number of ambassadors In-Reply-To: <43CC2FA2.7040600@redhat.com> References: <43CC2EA1.1020902@lm2.com.br> <43CC2FA2.7040600@redhat.com> Message-ID: <43CC30EE.7020402@lm2.com.br> What do you think about a sub total for each region? Central America - subtotal : 2 * Costa Rica - DavidMora * Mexico - MarioGamboa South America - Subtotal : 10 * Argentina - JuanLentino * Brazil - MG - ChristianTosta * Brazil - DavidBarzilay (remote Ambassador) * Brazil - SP - GlauberReis * Brazil - MG - RodrigoPadula * Brazil - PR - RodrigoMenezes * Brazil - RS - MauricioPretto * Brazil - SP - EduardoLopes * Brazil - MG - GlaucoZuccaccia * Colombia / DC / Bogota / JoseTarazona Mauricio Pretto Consultor de TI 51 8145-9781 LM? Consulting? http://www.lm2.com.br Porto Alegre : 51 3018-1007 S?o Paulo : 11 4062-9956 Plant?o 24hs : 51 8145-2002 Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Mauricio Pretto - LM? wrote: > >> What do you think about adding at the bottom of the CountryList the >> Number of total ambassadors at the moment? >> >> Just my 5 cents > > > I think thats a nice idea. If we can do it automatically that would be > even nicer but go ahead and do it now in the wiki if you want to. > From sundaram at redhat.com Mon Jan 16 23:58:30 2006 From: sundaram at redhat.com (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 05:28:30 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Total Number of ambassadors In-Reply-To: <43CC30EE.7020402@lm2.com.br> References: <43CC2EA1.1020902@lm2.com.br> <43CC2FA2.7040600@redhat.com> <43CC30EE.7020402@lm2.com.br> Message-ID: <43CC3326.8010502@redhat.com> Mauricio Pretto - LM? wrote: > What do you think about a sub total for each region? > You can maintain both sub totals and a grand total. I will check if this process can be automated meanwhile. -- Rahul Fedora Bug Triaging - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers From mauricio at lm2.com.br Tue Jan 17 00:02:25 2006 From: mauricio at lm2.com.br (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mauricio_Pretto_-_LM=B2?=) Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 22:02:25 -0200 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Total Number of ambassadors In-Reply-To: <43CC3326.8010502@redhat.com> References: <43CC2EA1.1020902@lm2.com.br> <43CC2FA2.7040600@redhat.com> <43CC30EE.7020402@lm2.com.br> <43CC3326.8010502@redhat.com> Message-ID: <43CC3411.40204@lm2.com.br> i am reading the moinmoin help to see if can be automated too Mauricio Pretto Consultor de TI 51 8145-9781 LM? Consulting? http://www.lm2.com.br Porto Alegre : 51 3018-1007 S?o Paulo : 11 4062-9956 Plant?o 24hs : 51 8145-2002 Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Mauricio Pretto - LM? wrote: > >> What do you think about a sub total for each region? >> > You can maintain both sub totals and a grand total. I will check if > this process can be automated meanwhile. > From mauricio at lm2.com.br Tue Jan 17 00:15:52 2006 From: mauricio at lm2.com.br (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mauricio_Pretto_-_LM=B2?=) Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 22:15:52 -0200 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Total Number of ambassadors In-Reply-To: <43CC3411.40204@lm2.com.br> References: <43CC2EA1.1020902@lm2.com.br> <43CC2FA2.7040600@redhat.com> <43CC30EE.7020402@lm2.com.br> <43CC3326.8010502@redhat.com> <43CC3411.40204@lm2.com.br> Message-ID: <43CC3738.905@lm2.com.br> just added the number for each region and total take a look Mauricio Pretto Consultor de TI 51 8145-9781 LM? Consulting? http://www.lm2.com.br Porto Alegre : 51 3018-1007 S?o Paulo : 11 4062-9956 Plant?o 24hs : 51 8145-2002 Mauricio Pretto - LM? wrote: > i am reading the moinmoin help to see if can be automated too > > Mauricio Pretto > Consultor de TI > 51 8145-9781 > > LM? Consulting? > http://www.lm2.com.br > Porto Alegre : 51 3018-1007 > S?o Paulo : 11 4062-9956 > Plant?o 24hs : 51 8145-2002 > > > > Rahul Sundaram wrote: > >> Mauricio Pretto - LM? wrote: >> >>> What do you think about a sub total for each region? >>> >> You can maintain both sub totals and a grand total. I will check if >> this process can be automated meanwhile. >> > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > From sundaram at redhat.com Tue Jan 17 02:18:11 2006 From: sundaram at redhat.com (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 07:48:11 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Ambassadors Map Message-ID: <43CC53E3.7070303@redhat.com> Hi http://www.frappr.com/FedoraAmbassadors So. Everyone of the ambassadors - kindly register yourself in the above group. Kindly provide photographs and locale information. It provides a nice map of world wide contributors that can put things in a better light than merely regional count. Once we get a decent count, I can highlight it in the ambassadors country list. -- Rahul Fedora Bug Triaging - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers From barzilay at redhat.com Tue Jan 17 02:39:40 2006 From: barzilay at redhat.com (David Barzilay) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 12:39:40 +1000 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Ambassadors Business Cards in OTT In-Reply-To: <43CC272F.70007@lm2.com.br> References: <43CBF84D.5020309@redhat.com> <20060116221648.M69268@fedora.redhat.com> <43CC2596.7030501@redhat.com> <20060116230223.M80222@fedora.redhat.com> <43CC272F.70007@lm2.com.br> Message-ID: <1137465580.5665.4.camel@dhcp-68.brisbane.redhat.com> Design wise, I like #s 1 and 2, but...I lack the "core business" outlined. "Fedora what"? "Fedora Project"? "Fedora Open Source Project"? It might sound a bit conservative, but it will help to remember it once it gets mixed in a "bunch-of-forgotten-in-the-drawer" business cards... Best, -- Dave Barzilay Em Seg, 2006-01-16 ?s 21:07 -0200, Mauricio Pretto - LM? escreveu: > I like the #3 > > Mauricio Pretto > Consultor de TI > 51 8145-9781 > > LM? Consulting? > http://www.lm2.com.br > Porto Alegre : 51 3018-1007 > S?o Paulo : 11 4062-9956 > Plant?o 24hs : 51 8145-2002 > > > > Thomas Chung wrote: > > >On Tue, 17 Jan 2006 04:30:38 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote > > > > > >>They look pretty neat but I like Fredric Hornain's versions for the > >>artistic value. It has a community feel over it as opposed to > >>professional ones which are just a alias for being sober. Hey, sober has > >>their place (RHEL anyone? ;-) ) but Fedora Project ain't it. > >> > >> > >> > > > >I like his design Business Card #1 too. Specially the background. :) > > > >http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/BusinessCards > > > >Should we vote? From sundaram at redhat.com Tue Jan 17 02:43:31 2006 From: sundaram at redhat.com (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 08:13:31 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Ambassadors Business Cards in OTT In-Reply-To: <1137465580.5665.4.camel@dhcp-68.brisbane.redhat.com> References: <43CBF84D.5020309@redhat.com> <20060116221648.M69268@fedora.redhat.com> <43CC2596.7030501@redhat.com> <20060116230223.M80222@fedora.redhat.com> <43CC272F.70007@lm2.com.br> <1137465580.5665.4.camel@dhcp-68.brisbane.redhat.com> Message-ID: <43CC59D3.7080503@redhat.com> David Barzilay wrote: >Design wise, I like #s 1 and 2, but...I lack the "core business" >outlined. > >"Fedora what"? "Fedora Project"? "Fedora Open Source Project"? > >It might sound a bit conservative, but it will help to remember it once >it gets mixed in a "bunch-of-forgotten-in-the-drawer" business cards... > > > Very good point. How do we define Fedora in a single short statement that is crisp and descriptive? -- Rahul Fedora Bug Triaging - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers From gdk at redhat.com Tue Jan 17 02:46:26 2006 From: gdk at redhat.com (Greg DeKoenigsberg) Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 21:46:26 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Ambassadors Business Cards In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: We need to remove business card #4; for now, we're only doing the approved blue colors. We also need to add a TM; as soon as I get the revised masters, I'll send them out. Nice job so far, though. --g --------------------------------------------------------------- Greg DeKoenigsberg || Fedora Foundation || fedoraproject.org Be an Ambassador || http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors --------------------------------------------------------------- On Mon, 16 Jan 2006, Hornain Frederic wrote: > Dear all, Dear Rahul > > For the moment the picture is not really optimized for printing however I will as soon as possible upload in the Open office 1.0, 2.0 format these buisness Cards. > > FYI, these ones are tentative Cards and will need to be reviewed before being treated as authoritative. > > Thanks all for your great help. > Feel free to contact me if you have any suggestions. > > My Best Regards, Friends. > Fred > > -----Original Message----- > From: fedora-ambassadors-list-bounces at redhat.com > [mailto:fedora-ambassadors-list-bounces at redhat.com]On Behalf Of Rahul > Sundaram > Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 8:47 PM > To: Ambassadors List; famsco-list at redhat.com > Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Ambassadors Business Cards > > > Hi > > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/BusinessCards > > Thanks to http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FredericHornain > > Can we get this stuff printed asap - FAMSCo? > > -- > Rahul > > Fedora Bug Triaging - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > From tejasdinkar at gmail.com Tue Jan 17 03:22:14 2006 From: tejasdinkar at gmail.com (Tejas Dinkar) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 08:52:14 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Ambassadors Map In-Reply-To: <43CC53E3.7070303@redhat.com> References: <43CC53E3.7070303@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1137468134.20442.0.camel@linuxbox> On Tue, 2006-01-17 at 07:48 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Hi > > http://www.frappr.com/FedoraAmbassadors Same bug... change the default zoom please Gja From barzilay at redhat.com Tue Jan 17 03:30:38 2006 From: barzilay at redhat.com (David Barzilay) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 13:30:38 +1000 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Ambassadors Business Cards in OTT In-Reply-To: <43CC59D3.7080503@redhat.com> References: <43CBF84D.5020309@redhat.com> <20060116221648.M69268@fedora.redhat.com> <43CC2596.7030501@redhat.com> <20060116230223.M80222@fedora.redhat.com> <43CC272F.70007@lm2.com.br> <1137465580.5665.4.camel@dhcp-68.brisbane.redhat.com> <43CC59D3.7080503@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1137468638.5665.16.camel@dhcp-68.brisbane.redhat.com> Em Ter, 2006-01-17 ?s 08:13 +0530, Rahul Sundaram escreveu: > David Barzilay wrote: > > >Design wise, I like #s 1 and 2, but...I lack the "core business" > >outlined. > > > >"Fedora what"? "Fedora Project"? "Fedora Open Source Project"? > > > >It might sound a bit conservative, but it will help to remember it once > >it gets mixed in a "bunch-of-forgotten-in-the-drawer" business cards... > > > > > > > Very good point. How do we define Fedora in a single short statement > that is crisp and descriptive? A bit of a brainstorming here... "Fedora. Collaborative work. Open Source Projects" "Fedora. Open Source Projects" "Fedora. Open Source Innovative Projects" Any other ideas? Best, -- Dave Barzilay From sundaram at redhat.com Tue Jan 17 03:44:19 2006 From: sundaram at redhat.com (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 09:14:19 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Ambassadors Business Cards in OTT In-Reply-To: <1137468638.5665.16.camel@dhcp-68.brisbane.redhat.com> References: <43CBF84D.5020309@redhat.com> <20060116221648.M69268@fedora.redhat.com> <43CC2596.7030501@redhat.com> <20060116230223.M80222@fedora.redhat.com> <43CC272F.70007@lm2.com.br> <1137465580.5665.4.camel@dhcp-68.brisbane.redhat.com> <43CC59D3.7080503@redhat.com> <1137468638.5665.16.camel@dhcp-68.brisbane.redhat.com> Message-ID: <43CC6813.7050301@redhat.com> Hi >A bit of a brainstorming here... > >"Fedora. Collaborative work. Open Source Projects" >"Fedora. Open Source Projects" >"Fedora. Open Source Innovative Projects" > > > How about ever more simple?. I dont think the average end user would associate open source with software immediately. Fedora - Forever Free and open source software. -- Rahul Fedora Bug Triaging - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers From sundaram at redhat.com Tue Jan 17 03:52:44 2006 From: sundaram at redhat.com (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 09:22:44 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Ambassadors Map In-Reply-To: <1137468134.20442.0.camel@linuxbox> References: <43CC53E3.7070303@redhat.com> <1137468134.20442.0.camel@linuxbox> Message-ID: <43CC6A0C.5000902@redhat.com> Tejas Dinkar wrote: >On Tue, 2006-01-17 at 07:48 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > > >>Hi >> >>http://www.frappr.com/FedoraAmbassadors >> >> > >Same bug... change the default zoom please > >Gja > Fixed. -- Rahul Fedora Bug Triaging - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers From tejasdinkar at gmail.com Tue Jan 17 04:10:28 2006 From: tejasdinkar at gmail.com (Tejas Dinkar) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 09:40:28 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Ambassadors Business Cards in OTT In-Reply-To: <43CC6813.7050301@redhat.com> References: <43CBF84D.5020309@redhat.com> <20060116221648.M69268@fedora.redhat.com> <43CC2596.7030501@redhat.com> <20060116230223.M80222@fedora.redhat.com> <43CC272F.70007@lm2.com.br> <1137465580.5665.4.camel@dhcp-68.brisbane.redhat.com> <43CC59D3.7080503@redhat.com> <1137468638.5665.16.camel@dhcp-68.brisbane.redhat.com> <43CC6813.7050301@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1137471028.20442.6.camel@linuxbox> On Tue, 2006-01-17 at 09:14 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > How about ever more simple?. I dont think the average end user would > associate open source with software immediately. Fedora - Forever Free > and open source software. Why open source at all? It is implied by the Free I liked `Fedora - Towards Freedom` (I think mether came up with this) Fedora - Freedom Forever Fedora - Because YOU can be Free Fedora - Because Life is too Short Fedora - YUMmy! Fedora - Freedom to be Fedora - Free as a Bird! Gja From sundaram at redhat.com Tue Jan 17 04:16:54 2006 From: sundaram at redhat.com (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 09:46:54 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Ambassadors Business Cards in OTT In-Reply-To: <1137471028.20442.6.camel@linuxbox> References: <43CBF84D.5020309@redhat.com> <20060116221648.M69268@fedora.redhat.com> <43CC2596.7030501@redhat.com> <20060116230223.M80222@fedora.redhat.com> <43CC272F.70007@lm2.com.br> <1137465580.5665.4.camel@dhcp-68.brisbane.redhat.com> <43CC59D3.7080503@redhat.com> <1137468638.5665.16.camel@dhcp-68.brisbane.redhat.com> <43CC6813.7050301@redhat.com> <1137471028.20442.6.camel@linuxbox> Message-ID: <43CC6FB6.3030606@redhat.com> Tejas Dinkar wrote: >On Tue, 2006-01-17 at 09:14 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > > >>How about ever more simple?. I dont think the average end user would >>associate open source with software immediately. Fedora - Forever Free >>and open source software. >> >> > >Why open source at all? > >It is implied by the Free > > Nope. Free means gratis for many which is why people use terms like FOSS but that isnt our audience here. >I liked `Fedora - Towards Freedom` (I think mether came up with this) > > I did and I like it as a project slogan but not a descriptive statement at all. We need terms like software and Linux for associations >Fedora - Freedom Forever > >Fedora - Because YOU can be Free > >Fedora - Because Life is too Short > > The cynic in you in showing up here ;-) >Fedora - YUMmy! > >Fedora - Freedom to be > >Fedora - Free as a Bird! > --- Rahul Fedora Bug Triaging - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers From gdk at redhat.com Tue Jan 17 05:11:49 2006 From: gdk at redhat.com (Greg DeKoenigsberg) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 00:11:49 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Ambassadors Business Cards in OTT In-Reply-To: <43CC6813.7050301@redhat.com> References: <43CBF84D.5020309@redhat.com> <20060116221648.M69268@fedora.redhat.com> <43CC2596.7030501@redhat.com> <20060116230223.M80222@fedora.redhat.com> <43CC272F.70007@lm2.com.br> <1137465580.5665.4.camel@dhcp-68.brisbane.redhat.com> <43CC59D3.7080503@redhat.com> <1137468638.5665.16.camel@dhcp-68.brisbane.redhat.com> <43CC6813.7050301@redhat.com> Message-ID: I like simple. Fedora. For freedom. --g --------------------------------------------------------------- Greg DeKoenigsberg || Fedora Foundation || fedoraproject.org Be an Ambassador || http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors --------------------------------------------------------------- On Tue, 17 Jan 2006, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Hi > > >A bit of a brainstorming here... > > > >"Fedora. Collaborative work. Open Source Projects" > >"Fedora. Open Source Projects" > >"Fedora. Open Source Innovative Projects" > > > > > > > How about ever more simple?. I dont think the average end user would > associate open source with software immediately. Fedora - Forever Free > and open source software. > > -- > Rahul > > Fedora Bug Triaging - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > From barzilay at redhat.com Tue Jan 17 05:30:50 2006 From: barzilay at redhat.com (David Barzilay) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 15:30:50 +1000 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Ambassadors Business Cards in OTT In-Reply-To: References: <43CBF84D.5020309@redhat.com> <20060116221648.M69268@fedora.redhat.com> <43CC2596.7030501@redhat.com> <20060116230223.M80222@fedora.redhat.com> <43CC272F.70007@lm2.com.br> <1137465580.5665.4.camel@dhcp-68.brisbane.redhat.com> <43CC59D3.7080503@redhat.com> <1137468638.5665.16.camel@dhcp-68.brisbane.redhat.com> <43CC6813.7050301@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1137475850.5665.41.camel@dhcp-68.brisbane.redhat.com> I felt like playing the devil's advocate now ;)) First, we should put ourselves in a sysadmin or CIO shoes. Do we feel that "Fedora. For freedom." will help them remember what's the card about? Do we feel that a government agency representative will benefit from this headline/statement? Em Ter, 2006-01-17 ?s 00:11 -0500, Greg DeKoenigsberg escreveu: > I like simple. > > Fedora. For freedom. > > --g > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > Greg DeKoenigsberg || Fedora Foundation || fedoraproject.org > Be an Ambassador || http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > On Tue, 17 Jan 2006, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > > > Hi > > > > >A bit of a brainstorming here... > > > > > >"Fedora. Collaborative work. Open Source Projects" > > >"Fedora. Open Source Projects" > > >"Fedora. Open Source Innovative Projects" > > > > > > > > > > > How about ever more simple?. I dont think the average end user would > > associate open source with software immediately. Fedora - Forever Free > > and open source software. > > > > -- > > Rahul > > > > Fedora Bug Triaging - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list From gdk at redhat.com Tue Jan 17 05:37:50 2006 From: gdk at redhat.com (Greg DeKoenigsberg) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 00:37:50 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Ambassadors Business Cards in OTT In-Reply-To: <1137475850.5665.41.camel@dhcp-68.brisbane.redhat.com> References: <43CBF84D.5020309@redhat.com> <20060116221648.M69268@fedora.redhat.com> <43CC2596.7030501@redhat.com> <20060116230223.M80222@fedora.redhat.com> <43CC272F.70007@lm2.com.br> <1137465580.5665.4.camel@dhcp-68.brisbane.redhat.com> <43CC59D3.7080503@redhat.com> <1137468638.5665.16.camel@dhcp-68.brisbane.redhat.com> <43CC6813.7050301@redhat.com> <1137475850.5665.41.camel@dhcp-68.brisbane.redhat.com> Message-ID: Oh, so we want to be remembered, do we? "Fedora -- for f***'s sake!" :) --g (Seriously. We can play with the taglines for days -- but in the end, it's not the business card, it's the person handing it out. I'd be perfectly happy to have a good logo treatment, simple text block for name / title / address / phone email / GPG, and no tagline at all.) --------------------------------------------------------------- Greg DeKoenigsberg || Fedora Foundation || fedoraproject.org Be an Ambassador || http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors --------------------------------------------------------------- On Tue, 17 Jan 2006, David Barzilay wrote: > I felt like playing the devil's advocate now ;)) > > First, we should put ourselves in a sysadmin or CIO shoes. Do we feel > that "Fedora. For freedom." will help them remember what's the card > about? > > Do we feel that a government agency representative will benefit from > this headline/statement? > > Em Ter, 2006-01-17 ?s 00:11 -0500, Greg DeKoenigsberg escreveu: > > I like simple. > > > > Fedora. For freedom. > > > > --g > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > Greg DeKoenigsberg || Fedora Foundation || fedoraproject.org > > Be an Ambassador || http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > On Tue, 17 Jan 2006, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > > > > > Hi > > > > > > >A bit of a brainstorming here... > > > > > > > >"Fedora. Collaborative work. Open Source Projects" > > > >"Fedora. Open Source Projects" > > > >"Fedora. Open Source Innovative Projects" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How about ever more simple?. I dont think the average end user would > > > associate open source with software immediately. Fedora - Forever Free > > > and open source software. > > > > > > -- > > > Rahul > > > > > > Fedora Bug Triaging - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers > > > > > > -- > > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > From tchung at fedora.redhat.com Tue Jan 17 05:42:07 2006 From: tchung at fedora.redhat.com (Thomas Chung) Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 21:42:07 -0800 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Ambassadors Business Cards in OTT In-Reply-To: <1137475850.5665.41.camel@dhcp-68.brisbane.redhat.com> References: <43CBF84D.5020309@redhat.com> <20060116221648.M69268@fedora.redhat.com> <43CC2596.7030501@redhat.com> <20060116230223.M80222@fedora.redhat.com> <43CC272F.70007@lm2.com.br> <1137465580.5665.4.camel@dhcp-68.brisbane.redhat.com> <43CC59D3.7080503@redhat.com> <1137468638.5665.16.camel@dhcp-68.brisbane.redhat.com> <43CC6813.7050301@redhat.com> <1137475850.5665.41.camel@dhcp-68.brisbane.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20060117053749.M66243@fedora.redhat.com> On Tue, 17 Jan 2006 15:30:50 +1000, David Barzilay wrote > I felt like playing the devil's advocate now ;)) > > First, we should put ourselves in a sysadmin or CIO shoes. Do we feel > that "Fedora. For freedom." will help them remember what's the card > about? > > Do we feel that a government agency representative will benefit from > this headline/statement? > > Em Ter, 2006-01-17 ?s 00:11 -0500, Greg DeKoenigsberg escreveu: > > I like simple. > > > > Fedora. For freedom. > > > > --g > > I agree and that's why we should simply state "Fedora. Infinite Freedom." as we stated in Key Features - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/KeyFeatures -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung From sundaram at redhat.com Tue Jan 17 05:51:43 2006 From: sundaram at redhat.com (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 11:21:43 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Ambassadors Business Cards in OTT In-Reply-To: <20060117053749.M66243@fedora.redhat.com> References: <43CBF84D.5020309@redhat.com> <20060116221648.M69268@fedora.redhat.com> <43CC2596.7030501@redhat.com> <20060116230223.M80222@fedora.redhat.com> <43CC272F.70007@lm2.com.br> <1137465580.5665.4.camel@dhcp-68.brisbane.redhat.com> <43CC59D3.7080503@redhat.com> <1137468638.5665.16.camel@dhcp-68.brisbane.redhat.com> <43CC6813.7050301@redhat.com> <1137475850.5665.41.camel@dhcp-68.brisbane.redhat.com> <20060117053749.M66243@fedora.redhat.com> Message-ID: <43CC85EF.1070800@redhat.com> Hi >I agree and that's why we should simply state "Fedora. Infinite Freedom." as we stated >in Key Features - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/KeyFeatures >-- > You guys keep missing the point. This is not project slogan. This is a short crisp description. Imagine this use case. You give a busy government policy maker your Fedora Ambassador visiting card. He files it along with several dozens. Few months down the line, he flips through the cards. He comes along the visiting you give him and what does it say? Fedora - Infinite Freedom No clue what the heck that means. Card ends up in dustbin. Now come up with short descriptions that avoid this issue. -- Rahul Fedora Bug Triaging - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers From j.phulewala at gmail.com Tue Jan 17 06:04:18 2006 From: j.phulewala at gmail.com (Jaswinder Singh) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 11:34:18 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Ambassadors Business Cards In-Reply-To: <43CBF84D.5020309@redhat.com> References: <43CBF84D.5020309@redhat.com> Message-ID: <43CC88E2.5020406@gmail.com> hi all i am voting for #2 Jaswinder Singh PLTG, Moga Punjab Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Hi > > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/BusinessCards > > Thanks to http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FredericHornain > > Can we get this stuff printed asap - FAMSCo? > From milenkovic.m at gmail.com Tue Jan 17 07:34:07 2006 From: milenkovic.m at gmail.com (marko milenkovic) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 08:34:07 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Ambassadors Business Cards In-Reply-To: <43CC88E2.5020406@gmail.com> References: <43CBF84D.5020309@redhat.com> <43CC88E2.5020406@gmail.com> Message-ID: <166301830601162334i2e11f73dy@mail.gmail.com> hello to all, my favorite is #1 busines card. 2006/1/17, Jaswinder Singh : > hi all > i am voting for #2 > > Jaswinder Singh > PLTG, Moga > Punjab > Rahul Sundaram wrote: > > > Hi > > > > > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/BusinessCards > > > > Thanks to http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FredericHornain > > > > Can we get this stuff printed asap - FAMSCo? > > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- ___________________________________________________ Marko Milenkovi? e-mail: milenkovic.m at gmail.com, mr99268 at alas.matf.bg.ac.yu web page: http://alas.matf.bg.ac.yu/~mr99268 public key: http://alas.matf.bg.ac.yu/~mr99268/linkservice?linkID=0001 From nayyares at gmail.com Tue Jan 17 09:45:59 2006 From: nayyares at gmail.com (Nayyar Ahmed) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 01:45:59 -0800 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Ambassadors Business Cards in OTT In-Reply-To: <43CC85EF.1070800@redhat.com> References: <43CBF84D.5020309@redhat.com> <43CC272F.70007@lm2.com.br> <1137465580.5665.4.camel@dhcp-68.brisbane.redhat.com> <43CC59D3.7080503@redhat.com> <1137468638.5665.16.camel@dhcp-68.brisbane.redhat.com> <43CC6813.7050301@redhat.com> <1137475850.5665.41.camel@dhcp-68.brisbane.redhat.com> <20060117053749.M66243@fedora.redhat.com> <43CC85EF.1070800@redhat.com> Message-ID: <8e1ee2a30601170145r26f69ef0ycf719afc0666a1d5@mail.gmail.com> Hi, I will add a point here, i.e. i am running my company and when i do visit people i first make sure that they are informed about my visit, or even for a sudden meeting, i just through my visiting card to the person or sometime his/her Personal Assistant, what they find in my visiting card is My Name and Company Name, while they some time keep it for future contact, i.e. email,phone no. etc. but they never take it out from their table draw to figure out what type of person i am? or even what is my second name? or even what is the theme of my company etc. etc. so in my experience visiting card is just to get started with some one, the rest is our skills and code of conduct :) this is what i feel about visiting card. thanks On 1/16/06, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Hi > > >I agree and that's why we should simply state "Fedora. Infinite Freedom." as we stated > >in Key Features - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/KeyFeatures > >-- > > > You guys keep missing the point. This is not project slogan. This is a > short crisp description. Imagine this use case. You give a busy > government policy maker your Fedora Ambassador visiting card. He files > it along with several dozens. Few months down the line, he flips through > the cards. He comes along the visiting you give him and what does it say? > > Fedora - Infinite Freedom > > No clue what the heck that means. Card ends up in dustbin. Now come up > with short descriptions that avoid this issue. > > -- > Rahul > > Fedora Bug Triaging - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- Nayyar Ahmad CEO, OSSP, Pakistan. Email: nayyar at ossp.com.pk Cell: +92 333 9139461 Office: +92 91 5846548 Web: www.ossp.com.pk From nayyares at gmail.com Tue Jan 17 09:50:18 2006 From: nayyares at gmail.com (Nayyar Ahmed) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 01:50:18 -0800 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Ambassadors Business Cards In-Reply-To: <166301830601162334i2e11f73dy@mail.gmail.com> References: <43CBF84D.5020309@redhat.com> <43CC88E2.5020406@gmail.com> <166301830601162334i2e11f73dy@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8e1ee2a30601170150gba5fb8dw4f34fc8ef13f0699@mail.gmail.com> Hi, I am voting for #1 :) thanks On 1/16/06, marko milenkovic wrote: > hello to all, > my favorite is #1 busines card. > > 2006/1/17, Jaswinder Singh : > > hi all > > i am voting for #2 > > > > Jaswinder Singh > > PLTG, Moga > > Punjab > > Rahul Sundaram wrote: > > > > > Hi > > > > > > > > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/BusinessCards > > > > > > Thanks to http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FredericHornain > > > > > > Can we get this stuff printed asap - FAMSCo? > > > > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > -- > ___________________________________________________ > Marko Milenkovi? > e-mail: milenkovic.m at gmail.com, mr99268 at alas.matf.bg.ac.yu > web page: http://alas.matf.bg.ac.yu/~mr99268 > public key: http://alas.matf.bg.ac.yu/~mr99268/linkservice?linkID=0001 > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- Nayyar Ahmad CEO, OSSP, Pakistan. Email: nayyar at ossp.com.pk Cell: +92 333 9139461 Office: +92 91 5846548 Web: www.ossp.com.pk From sundaram at redhat.com Tue Jan 17 09:58:04 2006 From: sundaram at redhat.com (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 15:28:04 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Ambassadors Business Cards in OTT In-Reply-To: <8e1ee2a30601170145r26f69ef0ycf719afc0666a1d5@mail.gmail.com> References: <43CBF84D.5020309@redhat.com> <43CC272F.70007@lm2.com.br> <1137465580.5665.4.camel@dhcp-68.brisbane.redhat.com> <43CC59D3.7080503@redhat.com> <1137468638.5665.16.camel@dhcp-68.brisbane.redhat.com> <43CC6813.7050301@redhat.com> <1137475850.5665.41.camel@dhcp-68.brisbane.redhat.com> <20060117053749.M66243@fedora.redhat.com> <43CC85EF.1070800@redhat.com> <8e1ee2a30601170145r26f69ef0ycf719afc0666a1d5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43CCBFAC.2020302@redhat.com> Nayyar Ahmed wrote: >Hi, > >I will add a point here, i.e. i am running my company and when i do >visit people i first make sure that they are informed about my visit, >or even for a sudden meeting, i just through my visiting card to the >person or sometime his/her Personal Assistant, what they find in my >visiting card is My Name and Company Name, while they some time keep >it for future contact, i.e. email,phone no. etc. but they never take >it out from their table draw to figure out what type of person i am? >or even what is my second name? or even what is the theme of my >company etc. etc. > >so in my experience visiting card is just to get started with some >one, the rest is our skills and code of conduct :) > >this is what i feel about visiting card. >thanks > There will be no company names as part of the ambassadors cards. If the person holding the card cannot understand the basic references include you have a high chance of not getting any responses further down the line. -- Rahul Fedora Bug Triaging - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers From nayyares at gmail.com Tue Jan 17 10:12:44 2006 From: nayyares at gmail.com (Nayyar Ahmed) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 02:12:44 -0800 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Ambassadors Business Cards in OTT In-Reply-To: <43CCBFAC.2020302@redhat.com> References: <43CBF84D.5020309@redhat.com> <43CC59D3.7080503@redhat.com> <1137468638.5665.16.camel@dhcp-68.brisbane.redhat.com> <43CC6813.7050301@redhat.com> <1137475850.5665.41.camel@dhcp-68.brisbane.redhat.com> <20060117053749.M66243@fedora.redhat.com> <43CC85EF.1070800@redhat.com> <8e1ee2a30601170145r26f69ef0ycf719afc0666a1d5@mail.gmail.com> <43CCBFAC.2020302@redhat.com> Message-ID: <8e1ee2a30601170212y46ab7cb3wd74b35d54ddcc306@mail.gmail.com> On 1/17/06, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Nayyar Ahmed wrote: > > >Hi, > > > >I will add a point here, i.e. i am running my company and when i do > >visit people i first make sure that they are informed about my visit, > >or even for a sudden meeting, i just through my visiting card to the > >person or sometime his/her Personal Assistant, what they find in my > >visiting card is My Name and Company Name, while they some time keep > >it for future contact, i.e. email,phone no. etc. but they never take > >it out from their table draw to figure out what type of person i am? > >or even what is my second name? or even what is the theme of my > >company etc. etc. > > > >so in my experience visiting card is just to get started with some > >one, the rest is our skills and code of conduct :) > > > >this is what i feel about visiting card. > >thanks > > > There will be no company names as part of the ambassadors cards. If the > person holding the card cannot understand the basic references include > you have a high chance of not getting any responses further down the line. i understand that, but i have given the example, like what people think about visiting card, in my opinion this is not the issue. i tell many people a day about me without giving him/her my visiting card. one can promote fedora in many ways, even his/her visiting card is not well formated. > > -- > Rahul > > Fedora Bug Triaging - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- Nayyar Ahmad CEO, OSSP, Pakistan. Email: nayyar at ossp.com.pk Cell: +92 333 9139461 Office: +92 91 5846548 Web: www.ossp.com.pk From gerold at lugd.org Tue Jan 17 10:32:10 2006 From: gerold at lugd.org (Gerold Kassube) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 11:32:10 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Ambassadors Business Cards in OTT In-Reply-To: <8e1ee2a30601170212y46ab7cb3wd74b35d54ddcc306@mail.gmail.com> References: <43CBF84D.5020309@redhat.com> <43CC59D3.7080503@redhat.com> <1137468638.5665.16.camel@dhcp-68.brisbane.redhat.com> <43CC6813.7050301@redhat.com> <1137475850.5665.41.camel@dhcp-68.brisbane.redhat.com> <20060117053749.M66243@fedora.redhat.com> <43CC85EF.1070800@redhat.com> <8e1ee2a30601170145r26f69ef0ycf719afc0666a1d5@mail.gmail.com> <43CCBFAC.2020302@redhat.com> <8e1ee2a30601170212y46ab7cb3wd74b35d54ddcc306@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <3768.194.99.90.2.1137493930.squirrel@www.gbc.net> Hi, I belive or I suggest there are two different situations; on the one hand, you're Hans Muller, normal person with normal job and normal interests and NOW you are also another person; you are Hans Muller, Fedora Ambassador and Fedora men who spreads out Fedora to the world on different events or exebitions ... In my opinion I need to have unfortunately from 8 am to 5 pm my business card, on and in my other life as an Ambassador I need to have the Ambassadors Visit Card which is need that all the people who are interessted in Fedora, the procejt or part of the project can contact me as the AMBASSADOR Hans Muller; maybe not the Hans Muller network engineer or maybe butcher :-) Hope this shows clear the difference between "normal life" and the life as an Fedora Ambassador. Since you "signed your contract" to be an Ambassador you're also an "multible charakter" ... Hopefully my awfull english and words can be understood :-( Just my five cents Regards Gerold From gauret at free.fr Tue Jan 17 10:42:46 2006 From: gauret at free.fr (Aurelien Bompard) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 11:42:46 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Ambassadors Business Cards In-Reply-To: <43CBF84D.5020309@redhat.com> References: <43CBF84D.5020309@redhat.com> Message-ID: <200601171142.46483.gauret@free.fr> Hi all, > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/BusinessCards Should we have a little room at the bottom for the GPG key fingerprint ? I know the Debian devs have it on their cards, and it's pretty handy at keysigning / install parties. Prototype (LaTeX) : http://www.debian.org/events/materials/business-cards/ Result : http://www.debian.org/events/materials/business-cards/card.ps.gz A. -- http://aurelien.bompard.org ~~~~ Jabber : abompard at jabber.fr A: Because we read from top to bottom, left to right. Q: Why should i start my reply below the quoted text ? From rodrigomenezes12 at yahoo.com.br Tue Jan 17 10:59:03 2006 From: rodrigomenezes12 at yahoo.com.br (Rodrigo Menezes) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 10:59:03 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Ambassadors Business Cards in OTT In-Reply-To: <3768.194.99.90.2.1137493930.squirrel@www.gbc.net> Message-ID: <20060117105903.62158.qmail@web33810.mail.mud.yahoo.com> What do you think about this: Fedora - And Linux for all Regards, Rodrigo Menezes Gerold Kassube escreveu: Hi, I belive or I suggest there are two different situations; on the one hand, you're Hans Muller, normal person with normal job and normal interests and NOW you are also another person; you are Hans Muller, Fedora Ambassador and Fedora men who spreads out Fedora to the world on different events or exebitions ... In my opinion I need to have unfortunately from 8 am to 5 pm my business card, on and in my other life as an Ambassador I need to have the Ambassadors Visit Card which is need that all the people who are interessted in Fedora, the procejt or part of the project can contact me as the AMBASSADOR Hans Muller; maybe not the Hans Muller network engineer or maybe butcher :-) Hope this shows clear the difference between "normal life" and the life as an Fedora Ambassador. Since you "signed your contract" to be an Ambassador you're also an "multible charakter" ... Hopefully my awfull english and words can be understood :-( Just my five cents Regards Gerold -- Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list --------------------------------- Yahoo! doce lar. Fa?a do Yahoo! sua homepage. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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In my opinion I need to have unfortunately from 8 am to 5 pm my business card, on and in my other life as an Ambassador I need to have the Ambassadors Visit Card which is need that all the people who are interessted in Fedora, the procejt or part of the project can contact me as the AMBASSADOR Hans Muller; maybe not the Hans Muller network engineer or maybe butcher :-) Hope this shows clear the difference between "normal life" and the life as an Fedora Ambassador. Since you "signed your contract" to be an Ambassador you're also an "multible charakter" ... Hopefully my awfull english and words can be understood :-( Just my five cents Regards Gerold -- Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list --------------------------------- Yahoo! doce lar. Fa?a do Yahoo! sua homepage. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dmora at paytechinternational.com Tue Jan 17 14:55:13 2006 From: dmora at paytechinternational.com (Dave MS) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 08:55:13 -0600 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Ambassadors Map In-Reply-To: <43CC53E3.7070303@redhat.com> References: <43CC53E3.7070303@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1137509713.3117.0.camel@pavilion.hive.corp> I added my self On Tue, 2006-01-17 at 07:48 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Hi > > http://www.frappr.com/FedoraAmbassadors > > So. Everyone of the ambassadors - kindly register yourself in the above > group. Kindly provide photographs and locale information. It provides a > nice map of world wide contributors that can put things in a better > light than merely regional count. Once we get a decent count, I can > highlight it in the ambassadors country list. > From dmora at paytechinternational.com Tue Jan 17 14:58:06 2006 From: dmora at paytechinternational.com (Dave MS) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 08:58:06 -0600 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Ambassadors Business Cards In-Reply-To: <43CC88E2.5020406@gmail.com> References: <43CBF84D.5020309@redhat.com> <43CC88E2.5020406@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1137509886.3117.2.camel@pavilion.hive.corp> I would like to vote first, for #1, but i also like #2 in second place On Tue, 2006-01-17 at 11:34 +0530, Jaswinder Singh wrote: > hi all > i am voting for #2 > > Jaswinder Singh > PLTG, Moga > Punjab > Rahul Sundaram wrote: > > > Hi > > > > > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/BusinessCards > > > > Thanks to http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FredericHornain > > > > Can we get this stuff printed asap - FAMSCo? > > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > From halaba at o2.pl Tue Jan 17 17:19:12 2006 From: halaba at o2.pl (Merlin) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 18:19:12 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] PLD LINUX DAY Message-ID: <43CD2710.8060505@o2.pl> Hello I'm Ambasador from poland, I writed few days ago about PLD linux day is Poznan in poland. I want to go there but i don't have a money for trip. I want to go there to talk about FC and new fc5. And i now you can help my:) Last time when i write about this you ask my about pld linux day and what i wan talk: and its link PLD Linux Day pld.wmid.amu.edu.pl - official site of PLD linux Day faq.fedora.pl - site wher is avery info about fedora core I think you can help My From lxmaier at gmail.com Tue Jan 17 18:48:00 2006 From: lxmaier at gmail.com (Alex Maier) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 13:48:00 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] PLD LINUX Day In-Reply-To: <1137236739.29222.4.camel@linuxbox> References: <43C8CB68.5010001@o2.pl> <1137236739.29222.4.camel@linuxbox> Message-ID: <7f617d270601171048r3ffa018cp2f7a6184c39151c1@mail.gmail.com> On 1/14/06, Tejas Dinkar wrote: > On Sat, 2006-01-14 at 10:59 +0100, Merlin wrote: > > Hello I'm Abasador from Poland > > we have a PLD linux Day i Poznan and I Think i can come there and talk > > whith people about fedora > > but i want a money for trip. it's far away and i don't have money for > > petrol ?? > > can you help?? > > Well, for a start do this: > > Post a Link to a website where we can read about the event. > > Also, send us the material you will use for the talk, if any. > If you add the event to http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents , it will be discussed in the upcoming Ambassadors meeting on Thursday. From lxmaier at gmail.com Tue Jan 17 18:54:20 2006 From: lxmaier at gmail.com (Alex Maier) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 13:54:20 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] events In-Reply-To: <13dbfe4f0601141622t1220626bw72e11c87aa87ca39@mail.gmail.com> References: <1137240350.3196.31.camel@NB-Fedora.homenet.local> <13dbfe4f0601141622t1220626bw72e11c87aa87ca39@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <7f617d270601171054n5fe2bf20sf996ef6f7e5f48a@mail.gmail.com> This is wonderful Chitlesh! Gerold, would you mind preparing a short lineup for LinuxTag and posting to the list so that we can discuss it at the next meeting? If we will have a FUDCon there, having a slot or two in the general session will be a nice-to-have, but not a matter of life or death. However, reserving a boot in the .ORG village is a must. Gerold, have you contacted the organizers yet in order to reserve space for us? a On 1/14/06, Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: > > The good thing in that case is; I've maybe more time to go to the FUDCon > > on the Linuxtag and on the Linuxtag himself in Germany (Wiesbaden). > > > > Does anybody have a hotel recommendation for me at Wiesbaden??? > > Revenge in progress: > my gf will support Kubuntu in whatever booth. She's corrupted :). So > Its most likely for me to be present for the Fedora Project. (though I > don't speak German) > Gerold Ill be besides you for at least 1 day. Linuxtag is really > something big. If this time there will be a FUDCon too, Ill be glad to > present Kadischi :) > > -- > http://clunixchit.blogspot.com > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- Check out the new content on Fedora Project page! http://fedoraproject.org From sundaram at redhat.com Tue Jan 17 18:58:29 2006 From: sundaram at redhat.com (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 00:28:29 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Ambassadors only? Message-ID: <43CD3E55.3080303@redhat.com> Hi Is this list ambassadors only or can others sign in and just read the conversations?. If its ambassadors only, we should be unsubscribing non ambassadors in this list and delisting people in the wiki, who haven't introduced themselves. If they don't speak English, someone speaking their native tongue should contact them and get this process done. -- Rahul Fedora Bug Triaging - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers From chitlesh at gmail.com Tue Jan 17 19:12:34 2006 From: chitlesh at gmail.com (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 20:12:34 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Ambassadors only? In-Reply-To: <43CD3E55.3080303@redhat.com> References: <43CD3E55.3080303@redhat.com> Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0601171112y4837c02au52a2c9d08be7882a@mail.gmail.com> or many there are some who are spying on us e.g. press ? enemies ?? -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com From halaba at o2.pl Tue Jan 17 19:12:06 2006 From: halaba at o2.pl (Merlin) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 20:12:06 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] PLD LINUX DAY Message-ID: <43CD4186.1030006@o2.pl> PLD Linux Day Post a Link to a website where we can read about the event: http://pld.wmid.amu.edu.pl - official site of PLD linux Day send us the material you will use for the talk: faq.fedora.pl - site wher is avery info about fedora core From lxmaier at gmail.com Tue Jan 17 19:32:35 2006 From: lxmaier at gmail.com (Alex Maier) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 14:32:35 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Fedora-based Distro In-Reply-To: References: <1137259479.43c933d7915a5@mail.ravensong.com> <13dbfe4f0601141035v3a74bf13r1cc2977068610b0b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <7f617d270601171132i59c43aedyf257f72d3736a7f3@mail.gmail.com> Kirill, this is a great initiative, so please keep the group posted on progress. thanks, a On 1/14/06, REDbyte Labs wrote: > If you would need Russian translator for LiveCD - I'm ready to help. > > Regards, > > Kirill "REDbyte" Novikov > > 2006/1/14, Chitlesh GOORAH < chitlesh at gmail.com>: > > > Thanks for advice. Project now is on the stage of brainstorm. We > generate > > > ideas. I would take a look at kadischi, maybe it is just what we need. > > > > Do keep in touch with me if you plan in playing with Kadischi. Ill be > > happy to introduce you to Hartline, he needs backing to do coding with > > Kadischi. > > > > > Guys from UN ready to finance development so I think we could find > professional > > > translators... > > > > for the moment we already have the French and Swedish translations for > > Kadischi Documentation. > > > > > Nearly all unixoids here speak russian, so it's quite a big > > > problem to translate OS on language wich we don't know. Another problem > is > > > that there are lots of "weak" PCs. So we would need some window manager, > > > wich doesn't require many resources. > > > > At least if we get the english translations, its enough. Afterwards > > the Fedora Community will translate it :) > > > > > > -- > > http://clunixchit.blogspot.com > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > -- Check out the new content on Fedora Project page! http://fedoraproject.org From mauricio at lm2.com.br Tue Jan 17 19:48:08 2006 From: mauricio at lm2.com.br (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mauricio_Pretto_-_LM=B2?=) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 17:48:08 -0200 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Total Number of ambassadors In-Reply-To: <43CC2EA1.1020902@lm2.com.br> References: <43CC2EA1.1020902@lm2.com.br> Message-ID: <43CD49F8.1020107@lm2.com.br> I have add the numbers for each region and the total of ambassadors. Should we warn for every one that add the name to the list , increase the value? or should we ask some one to housekeeping this number? Our we should remove this numbers ? Mauricio Pretto Consultor de TI 51 8145-9781 LM? Consulting? http://www.lm2.com.br Porto Alegre : 51 3018-1007 S?o Paulo : 11 4062-9956 Plant?o 24hs : 51 8145-2002 Mauricio Pretto - LM? wrote: > What do you think about adding at the bottom of the CountryList the > Number of total ambassadors at the moment? > > Just my 5 cents > From wmirror at gmail.com Tue Jan 17 19:45:26 2006 From: wmirror at gmail.com (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 20:45:26 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] I introduce myself Message-ID: <4E0B585E-6731-45C7-9227-6B30011D73E5@gmail.com> Hi, my name is Francesco Ugolini i'm an italian software developer and founder of a small company that distribute freely or for a little fee open source software. I have decided to became a Fedora Ambassador because i think that the open source and in particular this project can improve everyday life. I have read some about the fedora's Ambassador and i will try to help fedora to go ahead. So i don't know what other I can say. I'm grateful to Alex Meier that help me to join in this project. Thanks Francesco Ugolini From mauricio at lm2.com.br Tue Jan 17 19:49:30 2006 From: mauricio at lm2.com.br (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mauricio_Pretto_-_LM=B2?=) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 17:49:30 -0200 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Ambassadors only? In-Reply-To: <13dbfe4f0601171112y4837c02au52a2c9d08be7882a@mail.gmail.com> References: <43CD3E55.3080303@redhat.com> <13dbfe4f0601171112y4837c02au52a2c9d08be7882a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43CD4A4A.20407@lm2.com.br> we are not listed at: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/ Mauricio Pretto Consultor de TI 51 8145-9781 LM? Consulting? http://www.lm2.com.br Porto Alegre : 51 3018-1007 S?o Paulo : 11 4062-9956 Plant?o 24hs : 51 8145-2002 Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: >or many there are some who are spying on us >e.g. press ? enemies ?? > > >-- >http://clunixchit.blogspot.com > >-- >Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > From sundaram at redhat.com Tue Jan 17 19:51:56 2006 From: sundaram at redhat.com (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 01:21:56 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Ambassadors only? In-Reply-To: <43CD4A4A.20407@lm2.com.br> References: <43CD3E55.3080303@redhat.com> <13dbfe4f0601171112y4837c02au52a2c9d08be7882a@mail.gmail.com> <43CD4A4A.20407@lm2.com.br> Message-ID: <43CD4ADC.9030408@redhat.com> Mauricio Pretto - LM? wrote: > we are not listed at: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/ Private lists are not available in that url. -- Rahul Fedora Bug Triaging - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers From mike.j.knox at gmail.com Tue Jan 17 19:53:43 2006 From: mike.j.knox at gmail.com (Michael Knox) Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 08:53:43 +1300 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] self introduction Message-ID: Hello all. My name is Michael Knox, I live and play in Hamilton, New Zealand. I wanted to become more activily involved with Fedora (hope to be a contributor to extras soon) and thought that since there were no ambassadors for New Zealand, that I would start here. Thanks Michael -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I'm grateful to Alex Meier that help > me to join in this project. >>>Michael Knox wrote: Hello all. >>>My name is Michael Knox, I live and play in Hamilton, New Zealand. >>> I wanted to become more actively involved with Fedora (hope to be a contributor to extras soon) and thought that since there were no ambassadors for New Zealand, that I would start here. Welcome to the Ambassadors Project both of you. Kindly add yourself to the country list and create a personal page with your wiki name. Also sign up here, http://www.frappr.com/FedoraAmbassadors -- Rahul Fedora Bug Triaging - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers From mike.j.knox at gmail.com Tue Jan 17 20:17:29 2006 From: mike.j.knox at gmail.com (Michael Knox) Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 09:17:29 +1300 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Introductions In-Reply-To: <43CD4E1E.6030407@redhat.com> References: <4E0B585E-6731-45C7-9227-6B30011D73E5@gmail.com> <43CD4E1E.6030407@redhat.com> Message-ID: Done on both accounts :) Mike On 1/18/06, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > > Francesco Ugolini wrote: > > > Hi, my name is Francesco Ugolini i'm an italian software developer > > and founder of a small company that distribute freely or for a little > > fee open source software. I have decided to became a Fedora > > Ambassador because i think that the open source and in particular > > this project can improve everyday life. I have read some about the > > fedora's Ambassador and i will try to help fedora to go ahead. So i > > don't know what other I can say. I'm grateful to Alex Meier that help > > me to join in this project. > > >>>Michael Knox wrote: Hello all. > > >>>My name is Michael Knox, I live and play in Hamilton, New Zealand. > > >>> I wanted to become more actively involved with Fedora (hope to be a > contributor to extras soon) and thought that since there were no > ambassadors for New Zealand, that I would start here. > > Welcome to the Ambassadors Project both of you. Kindly add yourself to > the country list and create a personal page with your wiki name. Also > sign up here, > http://www.frappr.com/FedoraAmbassadors > > > -- > Rahul > > Fedora Bug Triaging - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sundaram at redhat.com Tue Jan 17 20:19:11 2006 From: sundaram at redhat.com (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 01:49:11 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Total Number of ambassadors In-Reply-To: <43CD49F8.1020107@lm2.com.br> References: <43CC2EA1.1020902@lm2.com.br> <43CD49F8.1020107@lm2.com.br> Message-ID: <43CD513F.9020802@redhat.com> Mauricio Pretto - LM? wrote: > I have add the numbers for each region and the total of ambassadors. > Should we warn for every one that add the name to the list , increase > the value? or should we ask some one to housekeeping this number? > Our we should remove this numbers ? If you are willing to maintain this manually I would say go for it. I verified that there isnt a easy way to automate this process within the wiki. I just attended our first Fedora websites team (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Websites) meeting. We are planning to introduce a content management system (Zope2+ Plone tentatively) in http://fedorproject.org in addition to the wiki and transition from http://fedora.redhat.com very soon. As part of this process we might cook up something better for the ambassadors list. -- Rahul Fedora Bug Triaging - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers From lxmaier at gmail.com Tue Jan 17 20:42:33 2006 From: lxmaier at gmail.com (Alex Maier) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 15:42:33 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Total Number of ambassadors In-Reply-To: <43CD513F.9020802@redhat.com> References: <43CC2EA1.1020902@lm2.com.br> <43CD49F8.1020107@lm2.com.br> <43CD513F.9020802@redhat.com> Message-ID: <7f617d270601171242r50bf9891w633d10aec5bcbf87@mail.gmail.com> >From personal experience explaning people how to join the wiki and edit pages I can tell you (and please don't take it personally) that adding this task to the list of things a new Ambassador has to do might have two negative results: 1. inexperienced people breaking the stats, because they will either miss the total or the subtotal 2. people getting confused and not becoming ambassadors due to too many requirements Unless there is a way to have it automated, I would say Nope. a On 1/17/06, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Mauricio Pretto - LM? wrote: > > > I have add the numbers for each region and the total of ambassadors. > > Should we warn for every one that add the name to the list , increase > > the value? or should we ask some one to housekeeping this number? > > Our we should remove this numbers ? > > If you are willing to maintain this manually I would say go for it. I > verified that there isnt a easy way to automate this process within the > wiki. I just attended our first Fedora websites team > (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Websites) meeting. We are planning to > introduce a content management system (Zope2+ Plone tentatively) in > http://fedorproject.org in addition to the wiki and transition from > http://fedora.redhat.com very soon. As part of this process we might > cook up something better for the ambassadors list. > > -- > Rahul > > Fedora Bug Triaging - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- Check out the new content on Fedora Project page! http://fedoraproject.org From lxmaier at gmail.com Tue Jan 17 20:45:20 2006 From: lxmaier at gmail.com (Alex Maier) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 15:45:20 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Introductions In-Reply-To: <43CD4E1E.6030407@redhat.com> References: <4E0B585E-6731-45C7-9227-6B30011D73E5@gmail.com> <43CD4E1E.6030407@redhat.com> Message-ID: <7f617d270601171245obd54f52o1cd92b103f39be64@mail.gmail.com> FYI, Nobody, and i mean NOBODY joins this list before I have made sure they have their name on the CountryList. Below a sample exchange between me and Mike today: On 1/17/06, Michael Knox wrote: OK, I am there, under Australia/New Zealand. I will work on my personal page throught out the day I have read throught the howto page, so hopefully I am ready :) - Hide quoted text - Mike On 1/18/06, Alex Maier wrote: You have Edit privileges now and can go ahead and add your name to the Country List. While you're at it, you probably could also build a personal wiki page with some information about you and your contact data, so that the people from your area can get in touch with you. Please make yourself familiar with Fedora Ambassadors How To: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/HowTo in order to be ready to hit the ground running once you are on the team. Cheers, Alex On 1/17/06, Michael Knox wrote: > Hello Alex, > > Thanks for the follow up. > > I have created a user (MikeKnox) but do not have editing privs to add myself > to the country list. > > Are you able to fix this up for me? > > Thanks > > Mike > > > On 1/18/06, Alex Maier wrote: > > Hello there Mike, > > > > I am the admin of fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com and > I have > > received your subscription request. > > > > In order to be the Ambassador, you will need to register to use the > > Wiki at fedoraproject.org (please use FirstnameLastname to create > > your username, i.e. JohnDoe ) and add your name to the page > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/CountryList > > > > If you can't edit pages, let me know what your UserName is, and I will > > give you edit priviliges, so you can add your name to the CountryList. > > > > After you have done this, please notify me and I will confirm your > > subscription after I see your name on Ambassadors/CountryList and then > > you will be all set. > > > > Please make sure you are familiar with the Minimal Requirements for > > Ambassadors. You will find this information here: > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/HowTo > > > > Thanks, > > Alex On 1/17/06, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Francesco Ugolini wrote: > > > Hi, my name is Francesco Ugolini i'm an italian software developer > > and founder of a small company that distribute freely or for a little > > fee open source software. I have decided to became a Fedora > > Ambassador because i think that the open source and in particular > > this project can improve everyday life. I have read some about the > > fedora's Ambassador and i will try to help fedora to go ahead. So i > > don't know what other I can say. I'm grateful to Alex Meier that help > > me to join in this project. > > >>>Michael Knox wrote: Hello all. > > >>>My name is Michael Knox, I live and play in Hamilton, New Zealand. > > >>> I wanted to become more actively involved with Fedora (hope to be a > contributor to extras soon) and thought that since there were no > ambassadors for New Zealand, that I would start here. > > Welcome to the Ambassadors Project both of you. Kindly add yourself to > the country list and create a personal page with your wiki name. Also > sign up here, > http://www.frappr.com/FedoraAmbassadors > > > -- > Rahul > > Fedora Bug Triaging - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- Check out the new content on Fedora Project page! http://fedoraproject.org From lxmaier at gmail.com Tue Jan 17 20:46:55 2006 From: lxmaier at gmail.com (Alex Maier) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 15:46:55 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Ambassadors only? In-Reply-To: <43CD4ADC.9030408@redhat.com> References: <43CD3E55.3080303@redhat.com> <13dbfe4f0601171112y4837c02au52a2c9d08be7882a@mail.gmail.com> <43CD4A4A.20407@lm2.com.br> <43CD4ADC.9030408@redhat.com> Message-ID: <7f617d270601171246i30498108iabb006027f87af65@mail.gmail.com> Once again, I am the admin, and no-one joins this list without my approval. Period. a On 1/17/06, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Mauricio Pretto - LM? wrote: > > > we are not listed at: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/ > > Private lists are not available in that url. > > -- > Rahul > > Fedora Bug Triaging - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- Check out the new content on Fedora Project page! http://fedoraproject.org From lxmaier at gmail.com Tue Jan 17 20:47:33 2006 From: lxmaier at gmail.com (Alex Maier) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 15:47:33 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] I introduce myself In-Reply-To: <4E0B585E-6731-45C7-9227-6B30011D73E5@gmail.com> References: <4E0B585E-6731-45C7-9227-6B30011D73E5@gmail.com> Message-ID: <7f617d270601171247x38ac412ev8d9ce7bf16366bc6@mail.gmail.com> Thank you Francesco for your support of Fedora. We are glad to have you on board! a On 1/17/06, Francesco Ugolini wrote: > Hi, my name is Francesco Ugolini i'm an italian software developer > and founder of a small company that distribute freely or for a little > fee open source software. I have decided to became a Fedora > Ambassador because i think that the open source and in particular > this project can improve everyday life. I have read some about the > fedora's Ambassador and i will try to help fedora to go ahead. So i > don't know what other I can say. I'm grateful to Alex Meier that help > me to join in this project. > > > Thanks > > Francesco Ugolini > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- Check out the new content on Fedora Project page! http://fedoraproject.org From tejasdinkar at gmail.com Wed Jan 18 03:24:29 2006 From: tejasdinkar at gmail.com (Tejas Dinkar) Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 08:54:29 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Ambassadors only? In-Reply-To: <7f617d270601171246i30498108iabb006027f87af65@mail.gmail.com> References: <43CD3E55.3080303@redhat.com> <13dbfe4f0601171112y4837c02au52a2c9d08be7882a@mail.gmail.com> <43CD4A4A.20407@lm2.com.br> <43CD4ADC.9030408@redhat.com> <7f617d270601171246i30498108iabb006027f87af65@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1137554669.3066.2.camel@linuxbox> On Tue, 2006-01-17 at 15:46 -0500, Alex Maier wrote: > Once again, I am the admin, and no-one joins this list without my > approval. Period. We have an admin? However, as Rahul Said, I still think that those Ambassadors who have not introduced themselves should be removed This is not cuz I'm really worried about press spying on us But we may feel that we are covered in a certain region, when in fact we have no ambassador there. Gja -- Tejas Dinkar - tejasdinkar AT gmail DOT com "He don't know me vewy well, DO he?" -- Bugs Bunny From lxmaier at gmail.com Wed Jan 18 04:55:29 2006 From: lxmaier at gmail.com (Alex Maier) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 23:55:29 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Re: Your Ambassador status In-Reply-To: <7f617d270601111616i6bf8e138kd59b7bd583eb0fb4@mail.gmail.com> References: <7f617d270601111616i6bf8e138kd59b7bd583eb0fb4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <7f617d270601172055n15a6572cmdd97fb21a70da1e@mail.gmail.com> Elmer, I regret to say that after receiving no response from you and having seen no personal introduction from you on the list and the wiki, I have to remove you from the list. Should you find time and resources to contribute to the project more actively again, we will gladly welcome you back. Thank you, Alex Maier SC Chair On 1/11/06, Alex Maier wrote: > Hello Elmer, > > To set a positive example for newbie Ambassadors, I would like to ask > you to build some kind of rudimentary personal wiki page with contact > information on it. > > I am bugging everyone who is on the Country List, but does not yet > have a page, and in a few weeks I will begin removing those without > pages from http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/CountryList > > One main function of Ambassadors is to be a local point of contact for > people in their region, and this is why personal wiki with contact > info is crucial. > > Thank you very much, > a > > -- > Check out the new content on Fedora Project page! http://fedoraproject.org > -- Check out the new content on Fedora Project page! http://fedoraproject.org From lxmaier at gmail.com Wed Jan 18 05:01:21 2006 From: lxmaier at gmail.com (Alex Maier) Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 00:01:21 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Ambassadors only? In-Reply-To: <1137554669.3066.2.camel@linuxbox> References: <43CD3E55.3080303@redhat.com> <13dbfe4f0601171112y4837c02au52a2c9d08be7882a@mail.gmail.com> <43CD4A4A.20407@lm2.com.br> <43CD4ADC.9030408@redhat.com> <7f617d270601171246i30498108iabb006027f87af65@mail.gmail.com> <1137554669.3066.2.camel@linuxbox> Message-ID: <7f617d270601172101k3e7d8456n2953897362d2ba7e@mail.gmail.com> On 1/17/06, Tejas Dinkar wrote: > On Tue, 2006-01-17 at 15:46 -0500, Alex Maier wrote: > > Once again, I am the admin, and no-one joins this list without my > > approval. Period. > > > We have an admin? Yes we do, as stated earlier. I monitor all subscription requests before they get approved. As you will see on the list, from time to time I enforce the minimal requirements. > However, as Rahul Said, I still think that those Ambassadors who have > not introduced themselves should be removed > > This is not cuz I'm really worried about press spying on us I do not think there is a lot of danger in that. The list is private so we can discuss without being disturbed by random people. Everything we do is documented on wiki (or should be) and is public. We have nothing to hide, really. > But we may feel that we are covered in a certain region, when in fact we > have no ambassador there. This is a legitimate concern. We need to make sure all Ambassadors are involved in some way and encourage more active contributions. Cheers, a From j.phulewala at gmail.com Wed Jan 18 05:23:47 2006 From: j.phulewala at gmail.com (Jaswinder Singh) Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 10:53:47 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Myself Message-ID: <43CDD0E3.4020006@gmail.com> * Jaswinder Singh Phulewala (Jassy) *Full legal name : Jaswinder Singh *City, Country: Moga (Punjab), India *Profession or Student status: Localization Member *Company or School: member of Punjabi Translation Team (http://punlinux.sf.net) *Your goals in the Fedora Project Translation of Open Source Software and Document in Punjabi (Gurmukhi) *How do you work for Fedora Project? Awareness towards Open Source->Training to people, Distributing CDs, Giving support *What do you want to write about and make available for? English to Punjabi Online Dictionary(http://punjabi.sf.net/onlinedict/admin.php) * Historical qualifications * What other projects or writing have you worked on in the past? I m working for Translation of Open Source Project gnome, kde, xfce, openoffice translation. * What level and type of computer skills do you have? I m working for Translation from last 1 and 1/2 year * What other skills do you have that might be applicable? User interface design, other so-called soft skills (people skills), programming, etc. Translation of GUI From rajesh672 at gmail.com Wed Jan 18 06:35:59 2006 From: rajesh672 at gmail.com (Rajesh Ranjan) Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 12:05:59 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] myself Message-ID: <5a62cd230601172235v62ae0fe9n@mail.gmail.com> Hello, My name is Rajesh Ranjan ( Bihar, India). I am working for several open source localisation projects including Fedora, Gnome, Openoffice.org, Firefox and Thunderbird, and Robot in Hindi Language, one of the most spoken langauge of the world. Earlier worked as Hindi Journalist for groups like Indian Express, Literate world. 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And Alex; I haven't contacted anybody till now, because I belive it makes no sense and looks not pretty good if more than ONE official from Fedora contacts the organzisers for getting the booth for Fedora. But I followed up the words from Greg and Chitlesh to put it in the WiKi on the event site and also bring it to the Agenda for the next meeting ... That's all I've done till now. Regards Gerold Alex Maier wrote: > This is wonderful Chitlesh! > Gerold, would you mind preparing a short lineup for LinuxTag and > posting to the list so that we can discuss it at the next meeting? > > If we will have a FUDCon there, having a slot or two in the general > session will be a nice-to-have, but not a matter of life or death. > However, reserving a boot in the .ORG village is a must. > > Gerold, have you contacted the organizers yet in order to reserve space > for us? > a From kevinverma at gmail.com Wed Jan 18 11:21:13 2006 From: kevinverma at gmail.com (Kevin Verma) Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 16:51:13 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Myself In-Reply-To: <43CDD0E3.4020006@gmail.com> References: <43CDD0E3.4020006@gmail.com> Message-ID: Greetings Jaswinder, Thanks for taking your time to let us know about you, I am also located at Punjab, I'll be very happy if we can join hands to promote Fedora community. Please to keep my contact so we can lobby for the same. You are most welcome to contact anytime you need to. Cheers, Kevin Verma On 1/18/06, Jaswinder Singh wrote: > * Jaswinder Singh Phulewala (Jassy) > > > *Full legal name : Jaswinder Singh > > > *City, Country: Moga (Punjab), India > > > *Profession or Student status: Localization Member > > > *Company or School: member of Punjabi Translation Team > (http://punlinux.sf.net) > > *Your goals in the Fedora Project > Translation of Open Source Software and Document in Punjabi (Gurmukhi) > > *How do you work for Fedora Project? > Awareness towards Open Source->Training to people, Distributing > CDs, Giving support > > *What do you want to write about and make available for? > English to Punjabi Online > Dictionary(http://punjabi.sf.net/onlinedict/admin.php) > > > * Historical qualifications > * What other projects or writing have you worked on in the past? > I m working for Translation of Open Source Project gnome, kde, xfce, > openoffice translation. > > * What level and type of computer skills do you have? > I m working for Translation from last 1 and 1/2 year > > > * What other skills do you have that might be applicable? > User interface design, other so-called soft skills (people skills), > programming, etc. > Translation of GUI > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > From rodrigomenezes12 at yahoo.com.br Wed Jan 18 11:27:08 2006 From: rodrigomenezes12 at yahoo.com.br (Rodrigo Menezes) Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 11:27:08 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Ambassadors only? In-Reply-To: <1137554669.3066.2.camel@linuxbox> Message-ID: <20060118112708.35813.qmail@web33809.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In Brazil we are working as a local committee. The idea is create iniciatives and send this information to the list when the idea is mature enough to be made. I think all countries or areas could work togheter like this. Thanks in advance, Rodrigo Menezes Tejas Dinkar escreveu: On Tue, 2006-01-17 at 15:46 -0500, Alex Maier wrote: > Once again, I am the admin, and no-one joins this list without my > approval. Period. We have an admin? However, as Rahul Said, I still think that those Ambassadors who have not introduced themselves should be removed This is not cuz I'm really worried about press spying on us But we may feel that we are covered in a certain region, when in fact we have no ambassador there. 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Alex ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Bryan J. Smith Date: Jan 18, 2006 3:43 PM Subject: Re: Please add your LUG to the Listing -- lists with 2-3 Fedora gurus ... To: Discussions on expanding the Fedora user base Michael Knox wrote: > Indeed it is a good idea. I have now added my local LUG. If people with edit access can add the following LUGs to the page, I'd greatly appreciate it. USA / FL / Gainesville - Florida Linux Users (FLU) -- http://florida.linuxusers.org USA / FL / Jacksonville - Jacksonville Linux User's Group (JAXLUG) -- http://www.jaxlug.org USA / FL / Miami-Ft. Lauderdale - Florida Linux User Xchange (FLUX) -- http://www.flux.org USA / FL / Orlando - Linux Enthusiasts and Professionals, Inc. of Central Florida (LEAP-CF) -- http://www.leap-cf.org USA / FL / Orlando - Greater Orlando Linux User Group (GOLUG) -- http://www.golug.org USA / FL / Tampa-Sarasota - Suncoast Linux Users Group (SLUG) -- http://www.suncoastlug.org USA / IL / Carbondale-Fairview Heights - Southern Illinois Linux Users Group (SILUG) -- http://www.silug.org USA / IL / Springfield - Linux Users of Central Illinois (LUCI) -- http://www.luci.org/ USA / MO / St. Louis - St. Louis Linux Users Group (SLLUG) -- http://www.stllinux.org/ I belong to several other lists in many other states (yes, I get around a lot doing a lot of Linux consulting), although I wouldn't call them "Fedora Friendly." The above lists at least have at least 2-3 Fedora gurus. -- Bryan J. Smith Professional, Technical Annoyance b.j.smith at ieee.org http://thebs413.blogspot.com ---------------------------------------------------- *** Speed doesn't kill, difference in speed does *** -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list -- Check out the new content on Fedora Project page! http://fedoraproject.org From chitlesh at gmail.com Wed Jan 18 20:45:08 2006 From: chitlesh at gmail.com (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 21:45:08 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Meeting Reminder: Thursday, Jeanuary 19, 2006, 14:00 UTC In-Reply-To: <7f617d270601181241i4129f36du87596dbc896f2958@mail.gmail.com> References: <7f617d270601181241i4129f36du87596dbc896f2958@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0601181245w3072cbfcqe7940a90d4cd5377@mail.gmail.com> On 1/18/06, Alex Maier wrote: > irc.freenode.net, channel #fedora-mktg > Please plan to be there. 3 consecutive weeks in row at 14:00 UTC ? -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com From tchung at fedora.redhat.com Wed Jan 18 20:55:44 2006 From: tchung at fedora.redhat.com (Thomas Chung) Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 12:55:44 -0800 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Meeting Reminder: Thursday, Jeanuary 19, 2006, 14:00 UTC In-Reply-To: <13dbfe4f0601181245w3072cbfcqe7940a90d4cd5377@mail.gmail.com> References: <7f617d270601181241i4129f36du87596dbc896f2958@mail.gmail.com> <13dbfe4f0601181245w3072cbfcqe7940a90d4cd5377@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20060118205423.M74373@fedora.redhat.com> On Wed, 18 Jan 2006 21:45:08 +0100, Chitlesh GOORAH wrote > On 1/18/06, Alex Maier wrote: > > irc.freenode.net, channel #fedora-mktg > > Please plan to be there. > > 3 consecutive weeks in row at 14:00 UTC ? I think last meeting should've happend in 22:00 UTC but someone made a boo boo. I'm not saying who. :) -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung From sundaram at redhat.com Wed Jan 18 22:26:27 2006 From: sundaram at redhat.com (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 03:56:27 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Fwd: Please add your LUG to the Listing -- lists with 2-3 Fedora gurus ... In-Reply-To: <7f617d270601181247nc083a72u796d827db2a101a0@mail.gmail.com> References: <20060118204315.70324.qmail@web34112.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <7f617d270601181247nc083a72u796d827db2a101a0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43CEC093.8060207@redhat.com> Alex Maier wrote: >Can one of the Ambassadors please help? >Thank you! >Alex > He is doing it himself. I bounced it back. -- Rahul Fedora Bug Triaging - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers From sopwith at redhat.com Wed Jan 18 23:32:14 2006 From: sopwith at redhat.com (Elliot Lee) Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 18:32:14 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Your aliases are ready Message-ID: If you have an account in the Fedora Account System, you should now have a corresponding alias @fedoraproject.org, and the other 16 Fedora-related domains that are hosted on the Fedora infrastructure. Some of these domains that might be relevant to you in your role as ambassadors include: fedoraproject.org.uk fedoraproject.org.in fedoraproject.org.nz (If any .uk/.in/.nz ambassadors would like to work on setting up country-specific web sites for these domains, please let me know!) 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Thank you. -- Rahul Fedora Bug Triaging - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers From sankarshan.mukhopadhyay at gmail.com Thu Jan 19 02:19:35 2006 From: sankarshan.mukhopadhyay at gmail.com (Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 07:49:35 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Your aliases are ready In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <43CEF737.1000201@gmail.com> Elliot Lee wrote: > If you have an account in the Fedora Account System, you should now have a > corresponding alias @fedoraproject.org, and the other 16 Fedora-related > domains that are hosted on the Fedora infrastructure. Some of these > domains that might be relevant to you in your role as ambassadors include: A big thank you :) And now I have to figure out how to configure/get one of these :P Regards Sankarshan -- You see things; and you say 'Why?'; But I dream things that never were; and I say 'Why not?' - George Bernard Shaw From barzilay at redhat.com Thu Jan 19 02:00:59 2006 From: barzilay at redhat.com (David Barzilay) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 12:00:59 +1000 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Your aliases are ready In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1137636059.4343.12.camel@dhcp-68.brisbane.redhat.com> That's great news, Elliot! Many thanks, -- David Barzilay Fedora Global Ambassador Remote Ambassador for Brazil Em Qua, 2006-01-18 ?s 18:32 -0500, Elliot Lee escreveu: > If you have an account in the Fedora Account System, you should now have a > corresponding alias @fedoraproject.org, and the other 16 Fedora-related > domains that are hosted on the Fedora infrastructure. Some of these > domains that might be relevant to you in your role as ambassadors include: > > fedoraproject.org.uk > fedoraproject.org.in > fedoraproject.org.nz > > (If any .uk/.in/.nz ambassadors would like to work on setting up > country-specific web sites for these domains, please let me know!) > > Best, > -- Elliot > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list From chitlesh at gmail.com Thu Jan 19 09:06:09 2006 From: chitlesh at gmail.com (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 10:06:09 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Your aliases are ready In-Reply-To: <1137636059.4343.12.camel@dhcp-68.brisbane.redhat.com> References: <1137636059.4343.12.camel@dhcp-68.brisbane.redhat.com> Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0601190106k3d9a52a3yca5dc31aaef3a4ed@mail.gmail.com> Thanks Elliot. Though I have a question. How do you (everyone) use their alias? 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Some of these > domains that might be relevant to you in your role as ambassadors include: > > fedoraproject.org.uk > fedoraproject.org.in > fedoraproject.org.nz > > (If any .uk/.in/.nz ambassadors would like to work on setting up > country-specific web sites for these domains, please let me know!) > > Best, > -- Elliot > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- Nayyar Ahmad CEO, OSSP, Pakistan. Email: nayyar at ossp.com.pk Cell: +92 333 9139461 Office: +92 91 5846548 Web: www.ossp.com.pk From tchung at fedora.redhat.com Fri Jan 20 03:15:38 2006 From: tchung at fedora.redhat.com (Thomas Chung) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 19:15:38 -0800 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Ambassadors Meeting Minutes on 2006-01-19 Message-ID: <20060120031538.M54440@fedora.redhat.com> == Present == * AlexMaier (lxmaier) * AurelienBompard (abompard) * ChitleshGoorah * GeroldKassube (GeroldKa) * DavidBarzilay (barz) * FrancescoUgolini * BobJensen * MauricioPretto * ThomasChung (tchung) * iWolf (?) * ThorstenLeemhuis (thl) * GregDeKoenigsberg (gregdek) * MikaelJacobsson (maikaru) * RobertWhetsel (rwhetsel) == Review upcoming events == http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents * Solutions Linux 2006 (Jan 31-Feb 2) in Paris, France: AurelienBompard - can't have a booth but I'll be there one day only (last day) - I can give papers and dvds to friends in the lug AlexMaier - you will receive 75 Ts and 150 DVDs - it will be 25 Ts and 50 dvds a day to distribute - these are all Ts with old logo ChitleshGoorah - have the others take pictures of the event * GNUify (Feb 4-5) in Pune, India: RahulSundaram is not present * Linux Asia 2006 (Feb 8-10) in New Delhi India: RahulSundaram is not present SankarshanMukhopadhyay is not present AlexMaier - a package for this event as well and it will go out to SatishMohan - we have divided up all the tshirts and DVDs we had among four events - linuxAsia, Solutions Linux, FOSDEM, and SCALE 4X - we will have more goodies when the new quarter comes (March 1) * SCALE 4X (Feb 11-12) in Los Angeles, CA ThomasChung is late for report but GregDeKoenigsberg sent him the package via FedEx. * NOTE on donation or fund-raising at the Event: AlexMaier - everybody--before we have finished the foundation's legal details, please DO NOT FUNDRAISE - no fund-raising, at all, not until we have some kind of status - if someone offers to buy you pizza, feel free to accept, but no money * FOSDEM (Feb 25-26) in Brussel, Belgium: FredericHornain is not present AlexMaier - we have sent a care package to hornain too - 75 Ts and 150 DVDs * LWCE Australia (Mar 28-30) in Sydney, Australia: DavidBarzilay - jwulf and another local enthusiast will check their availability - will let u know via email AlexMaier - we have no more DVDs for this one, but hope to have FC5 until then - we'll have to improvise, maybe burn DVDs on site or something - we can produce Ts and other schwag as soon as we have the new quarter == Fedora Libraries == ChitleshGoorah - this is a project of ubuntu that Im going to copy :) - the idea is to give libraries dvds and the latter will lend them like books - afterwards they can give a try to Fedora and copy the dvd etc - but to be honest this will be mostly done by lugs - ambassadors or members of the lugs can give a small intro about fedora ThomasChung - we have not found maintainer for LiveCD project yet. - We posted a call for maintainer for LiveCD project twice in FWN == LinuxTag and FUDCon == GeroldKassube - Is there a FUDCon in LinuxTag (Wiesbaden,Germany) ? - I haven't done anything till now AlexMaier - please get in touch with LinuxTag and reserve a booth for fedora - we will try to have a FUDCon there too - FUDCon being at the event with a booth in the .ORG area is essential ThomasChung - we are allowed to have 3-4 FUDCons in a year - we are planning to have it in LinuxAsia, LinuxTag and LinuxWorld (Boston) == Schwag pipepline == GregDeKoenigsberg - Right now, there *is* *no* *pipeline*. There is *me* and *Alex*. - We're working to famsco. We're working that plan == Email Aliases for fedoraproject.org == Thomas Chung - email aliases issue can be moved to closed issues - everyone in Ambassadors should sign up in Fedora Account System in order to get email aliases - this issue has been moved to closed issues == Funding Options for Show == DavidBarzilay - we can come up with some creative funding ways - we gotta establish some boundaries for possible partnerships == Presentations for Ambassadors == DavidBarzilay - we already got some presentations in fedoraproject.org - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/Slides - we could have a few default models, i.e. for schools and universities, another for gov agencies MauricioPretto - has been working on localizing an FC presentation to Brazilian Portuguese - we should have one about the FEDORA CORE, other about fedora foundation, FDS, Fedora Cluster Suite FrancescoUgolini - will work on localizing an FC presentation for Italian market == Standard Kits for Ambassadors == ThomasChung - We need a banner for Fedora Project for an event - Fedora mouse pads? Fedora pens? DavidBarzilay - need to be light (as in weight) and flexible material - gotta check costs - gotta be durable - can you get us some quotes on different materials GeroldKassube - Fedora pins? Fedora LiveCDs? == Business Cards for Ambassadors == AurelienBompard - We should have some space on it for the GPG fingerprint - they could be used in keysigning parties too ThomasChung - Removed Business Card option #4 since its color is not official - we should have an option to print them ourselves - will count the votes for biz card options from archive and irc - will send out meeting minutes if someone send me a full IRC log DavidBarzilay - Time to check list archive and make a decision on the votes - bus cards are a crucial material and i believe we cannot take much longer - talk to our graphic designer about these - standard dimension for the paper? color specifications? printer technologies? - please count the votes for biz card options in the archive and post'em to the list == Next Meeting == * 2006-01-26 22:00 UTC * See World Time at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung From tchung at fedora.redhat.com Fri Jan 20 03:18:56 2006 From: tchung at fedora.redhat.com (Thomas Chung) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 19:18:56 -0800 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Ambassadors Business Card Votes Message-ID: <20060120031856.M3047@fedora.redhat.com> Based on list archive and last meeting, here is the result for Ambassadors Business Card Votes: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/BusinessCards Business Card Options: # 1 - 8 votes # 2 - 1 vote # 3 - 1 vote -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung From tejasdinkar at gmail.com Fri Jan 20 03:39:22 2006 From: tejasdinkar at gmail.com (Tejas Dinkar) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 09:09:22 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Ambassadors Business Card Votes In-Reply-To: <20060120031856.M3047@fedora.redhat.com> References: <20060120031856.M3047@fedora.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1137728362.13776.0.camel@linuxbox> On Thu, 2006-01-19 at 19:18 -0800, Thomas Chung wrote: > # 1 - 8 votes > # 2 - 1 vote > # 3 - 1 vote Is this the final verdict? From sankarshan.mukhopadhyay at gmail.com Fri Jan 20 04:03:58 2006 From: sankarshan.mukhopadhyay at gmail.com (Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 09:33:58 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Ambassadors Meeting Minutes on 2006-01-19 In-Reply-To: <20060120031538.M54440@fedora.redhat.com> References: <20060120031538.M54440@fedora.redhat.com> Message-ID: <43D0612E.5070203@gmail.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Thomas Chung wrote: > * Linux Asia 2006 (Feb 8-10) in New Delhi India: > RahulSundaram is not present > SankarshanMukhopadhyay is not present > AlexMaier > - a package for this event as well and it will go out to SatishMohan > - we have divided up all the tshirts and DVDs we had among four events > - linuxAsia, Solutions Linux, FOSDEM, and SCALE 4X > - we will have more goodies when the new quarter comes (March 1) Gee thanks. Sorry folks some matters at home needed to be looked into fast. Will coordinate with Satish on the goodies front and keep all posted. The one matter that still is open ended is recording the FUDCon - will also let you know on that (have a target of EoD 20th Jan 2006 for that) Warm regards Sankarshan - -- You see things; and you say 'Why?'; But I dream things that never were; and I say 'Why not?' - George Bernard Shaw -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Red Hat - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFD0GEhXQZpNTcrCzMRAtd3AJ9ae8qOGOa5HmmGW2iUJOC0N2WnnQCffdBa 8SS4YcvZTxEXSU05Z2fZwno= =9c18 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From sundaram at redhat.com Fri Jan 20 04:14:53 2006 From: sundaram at redhat.com (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 09:44:53 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] FedoraLeaflet.pdf edits suggested and posted to TalkingPoints wiki page In-Reply-To: <1137662998.6840.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1137662998.6840.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <43D063BD.8010206@redhat.com> Martin Joseph Brej wrote: > Team--I read the .pdf that was posted on the Talking Points page on > the wiki and thought it could use a few edits--I have posted a revised > version in Open Office document format at the following location: > > http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/TalkingPoints > > Please read and give me detailed feedback--my edits included spelling, > syntax, and some content enhancements. > Just make the changes in the wiki. If nots agreeable we can always revert it. -- Rahul Fedora Bug Triaging - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers From nman64 at n-man.com Fri Jan 20 07:02:08 2006 From: nman64 at n-man.com (Patrick Barnes) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 01:02:08 -0600 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Your aliases are ready In-Reply-To: <13dbfe4f0601190106k3d9a52a3yca5dc31aaef3a4ed@mail.gmail.com> References: <1137636059.4343.12.camel@dhcp-68.brisbane.redhat.com> <13dbfe4f0601190106k3d9a52a3yca5dc31aaef3a4ed@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43D08AF0.5080607@n-man.com> Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: > Thanks Elliot. > Though I have a question. > How do you (everyone) use their alias? > I use it as a reply address and while having Fedora related discussions :) > > > -- > http://clunixchit.blogspot.com > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > Most email clients and a few web-based ones (Gmail) support setting the From header on outgoing email. This is done differently for every client, so you'll have to search on your own to figure out how to do it. This will allow your email to appear as being from your @fedora* address, rather than simply directing replies to it. -- Patrick "The N-Man" Barnes nman64 at n-man.com http://www.n-man.com/ -- Have I been helpful? Rate my assistance! http://rate.affero.net/nman64/ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From Frederic.Hornain at GB.BE Fri Jan 20 09:01:55 2006 From: Frederic.Hornain at GB.BE (Hornain Frederic) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 10:01:55 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Ambassadors Meeting Minutes on 2006-01-19 Message-ID: Dear Alex, dear *, Firstly, I would like to excuse myself to not be present at a lot of ambassadors meeting but due to my job I am unfortunatly not able to talk via IRC - Policies Restrictions -. Sorry for that. Nonetheless, I would like to thank you for the package you are going to send me. -see below - It is great you did not forgot me. > * FOSDEM (Feb 25-26) in Brussel, Belgium: > FredericHornain is not present > AlexMaier > - we have sent a care package to hornain too > - 75 Ts and 150 DVDs Anyway, I will publish some pictures of this event in order to correct with you and show you my good faith. BTW, it could be intersting to have a banner or a board in order to tell to vistor that is the fedora's stand. Thanks again. Best Regards Fred Fedora-ambassador Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From halaba at o2.pl Fri Jan 20 13:40:22 2006 From: halaba at o2.pl (Merlin) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 14:40:22 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Sorry Message-ID: <43D0E846.9060400@o2.pl> Alex My sorry too .I Can't be on last Meting becous i do Fedora Core Open Day in poland and i have a lot thinks to do i'm sory but i be on next:) From lxmaier at gmail.com Fri Jan 20 14:19:47 2006 From: lxmaier at gmail.com (Alex Maier) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 09:19:47 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Ambassadors Meeting Minutes on 2006-01-19 In-Reply-To: <20060120031538.M54440@fedora.redhat.com> References: <20060120031538.M54440@fedora.redhat.com> Message-ID: <7f617d270601200619i3b9b35bdw87b26b5903c03832@mail.gmail.com> Thanks for taking care of the notes Thomas! I was just about to start working my way through the log :) Cheers, a On 1/19/06, Thomas Chung wrote: > == Present == > > * AlexMaier (lxmaier) > * AurelienBompard (abompard) > * ChitleshGoorah > * GeroldKassube (GeroldKa) > * DavidBarzilay (barz) > * FrancescoUgolini > * BobJensen > * MauricioPretto > * ThomasChung (tchung) > * iWolf (?) > * ThorstenLeemhuis (thl) > * GregDeKoenigsberg (gregdek) > * MikaelJacobsson (maikaru) > * RobertWhetsel (rwhetsel) > > == Review upcoming events == > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents > > * Solutions Linux 2006 (Jan 31-Feb 2) in Paris, France: > AurelienBompard > - can't have a booth but I'll be there one day only (last day) > - I can give papers and dvds to friends in the lug > AlexMaier > - you will receive 75 Ts and 150 DVDs > - it will be 25 Ts and 50 dvds a day to distribute > - these are all Ts with old logo > ChitleshGoorah > - have the others take pictures of the event > > * GNUify (Feb 4-5) in Pune, India: > RahulSundaram is not present > > * Linux Asia 2006 (Feb 8-10) in New Delhi India: > RahulSundaram is not present > SankarshanMukhopadhyay is not present > AlexMaier > - a package for this event as well and it will go out to SatishMohan > - we have divided up all the tshirts and DVDs we had among four events > - linuxAsia, Solutions Linux, FOSDEM, and SCALE 4X > - we will have more goodies when the new quarter comes (March 1) > > * SCALE 4X (Feb 11-12) in Los Angeles, CA > ThomasChung is late for report but GregDeKoenigsberg sent him the package via FedEx. > > * NOTE on donation or fund-raising at the Event: > AlexMaier > - everybody--before we have finished the foundation's legal details, please DO NOT > FUNDRAISE > - no fund-raising, at all, not until we have some kind of status > - if someone offers to buy you pizza, feel free to accept, but no money > > * FOSDEM (Feb 25-26) in Brussel, Belgium: > FredericHornain is not present > AlexMaier > - we have sent a care package to hornain too > - 75 Ts and 150 DVDs > > * LWCE Australia (Mar 28-30) in Sydney, Australia: > DavidBarzilay > - jwulf and another local enthusiast will check their availability > - will let u know via email > AlexMaier > - we have no more DVDs for this one, but hope to have FC5 until then > - we'll have to improvise, maybe burn DVDs on site or something > - we can produce Ts and other schwag as soon as we have the new quarter > > == Fedora Libraries == > > ChitleshGoorah > - this is a project of ubuntu that Im going to copy :) > - the idea is to give libraries dvds and the latter will lend them like books > - afterwards they can give a try to Fedora and copy the dvd etc > - but to be honest this will be mostly done by lugs > - ambassadors or members of the lugs can give a small intro about fedora > > ThomasChung > - we have not found maintainer for LiveCD project yet. > - We posted a call for maintainer for LiveCD project twice in FWN > > == LinuxTag and FUDCon == > > GeroldKassube > - Is there a FUDCon in LinuxTag (Wiesbaden,Germany) ? > - I haven't done anything till now > > AlexMaier > - please get in touch with LinuxTag and reserve a booth for fedora > - we will try to have a FUDCon there too > - FUDCon being at the event with a booth in the .ORG area is essential > > ThomasChung > - we are allowed to have 3-4 FUDCons in a year > - we are planning to have it in LinuxAsia, LinuxTag and LinuxWorld (Boston) > > == Schwag pipepline == > > GregDeKoenigsberg > - Right now, there *is* *no* *pipeline*. There is *me* and *Alex*. > - We're working to famsco. We're working that plan > > == Email Aliases for fedoraproject.org == > > Thomas Chung > - email aliases issue can be moved to closed issues > - everyone in Ambassadors should sign up in Fedora Account System in order to get email > aliases > - this issue has been moved to closed issues > > == Funding Options for Show == > > DavidBarzilay > - we can come up with some creative funding ways > - we gotta establish some boundaries for possible partnerships > > == Presentations for Ambassadors == > > DavidBarzilay > - we already got some presentations in fedoraproject.org > - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/Slides > - we could have a few default models, i.e. for schools and universities, another for > gov agencies > > MauricioPretto > - has been working on localizing an FC presentation to Brazilian Portuguese > - we should have one about the FEDORA CORE, other about fedora foundation, FDS, Fedora > Cluster Suite > > FrancescoUgolini > - will work on localizing an FC presentation for Italian market > > == Standard Kits for Ambassadors == > > ThomasChung > - We need a banner for Fedora Project for an event > - Fedora mouse pads? Fedora pens? > > DavidBarzilay > - need to be light (as in weight) and flexible material > - gotta check costs > - gotta be durable > - can you get us some quotes on different materials > > GeroldKassube > - Fedora pins? Fedora LiveCDs? > > == Business Cards for Ambassadors == > > AurelienBompard > - We should have some space on it for the GPG fingerprint > - they could be used in keysigning parties too > > ThomasChung > - Removed Business Card option #4 since its color is not official > - we should have an option to print them ourselves > - will count the votes for biz card options from archive and irc > - will send out meeting minutes if someone send me a full IRC log > > DavidBarzilay > - Time to check list archive and make a decision on the votes > - bus cards are a crucial material and i believe we cannot take much longer > - talk to our graphic designer about these > - standard dimension for the paper? color specifications? printer technologies? > - please count the votes for biz card options in the archive and post'em to the list > > == Next Meeting == > > * 2006-01-26 22:00 UTC > * See World Time at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings > > -- > Thomas Chung > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- Check out the new content on Fedora Project page! http://fedoraproject.org From lxmaier at gmail.com Fri Jan 20 14:20:42 2006 From: lxmaier at gmail.com (Alex Maier) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 09:20:42 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Next Fedora Ambassadors Meeting: 22h UTC, Thursday, Jan 26 Message-ID: <7f617d270601200620x5ddb7704q7d31f5d0ad121be4@mail.gmail.com> Be there or be square ;) -- Check out the new content on Fedora Project page! http://fedoraproject.org From mauricio at lm2.com.br Fri Jan 20 15:33:31 2006 From: mauricio at lm2.com.br (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mauricio_Pretto_-_LM=B2?=) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 13:33:31 -0200 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] vacation Message-ID: <43D102CB.2020403@lm2.com.br> Hello There, I will be in vacation till Feburary 06th. Probably will not read e-mail or be at our meetings, until i come back. C-ya! -- Mauricio Pretto Consultor de TI 51 8145-9781 LM? Consulting? http://www.lm2.com.br Porto Alegre : 51 3018-1007 S?o Paulo : 11 4062-9956 Plant?o 24hs : 51 8145-2002 From tchung at fedora.redhat.com Fri Jan 20 15:33:18 2006 From: tchung at fedora.redhat.com (Thomas Chung) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 07:33:18 -0800 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Ambassadors Meeting Minutes on 2006-01-19 In-Reply-To: <7f617d270601200619i3b9b35bdw87b26b5903c03832@mail.gmail.com> References: <20060120031538.M54440@fedora.redhat.com> <7f617d270601200619i3b9b35bdw87b26b5903c03832@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20060120153245.M63052@fedora.redhat.com> On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 09:19:47 -0500, Alex Maier wrote > Thanks for taking care of the notes Thomas! I was just about to start > working my way through the log :) > > Cheers, > a It's my pleasure. :) -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung From tchung at fedora.redhat.com Fri Jan 20 15:36:34 2006 From: tchung at fedora.redhat.com (Thomas Chung) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 07:36:34 -0800 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] vacation In-Reply-To: <43D102CB.2020403@lm2.com.br> References: <43D102CB.2020403@lm2.com.br> Message-ID: <20060120153446.M33447@fedora.redhat.com> On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 13:33:31 -0200, Mauricio Pretto - LM? wrote > Hello There, > > I will be in vacation till Feburary 06th. > Probably will not read e-mail or be at our meetings, until i come back. > > C-ya! > > -- > Mauricio Pretto > Consultor de TI > 51 8145-9781 Hi Mauricio, Please add yourself in vacation wiki page. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Vacation Also it might be a good idea to link that page from your personal wiki page as well. Regards, -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung From tejasdinkar at gmail.com Fri Jan 20 16:01:46 2006 From: tejasdinkar at gmail.com (Tejas Dinkar) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 21:31:46 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] vacation In-Reply-To: <20060120153446.M33447@fedora.redhat.com> References: <43D102CB.2020403@lm2.com.br> <20060120153446.M33447@fedora.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1137772906.13776.27.camel@linuxbox> On Fri, 2006-01-20 at 07:36 -0800, Thomas Chung wrote: > Please add yourself in vacation wiki page. > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Vacation I don't believe this!!!! wtf should people make a mark on the wiki page when they are going on vacation!!!!! Being a Fedora Ambassador is a voluntary effort... It is not a job!! We are not the FBI to have to know when our ambassadors are going on vacation. What is next?? Only allowed to miss 7 meetings a year, only if we are sick, and provided that we provide a Certificate from our Doctors? Being an ambassador is about helping people. But more important than that: Being an Ambassador is supposed to be FUN. Gja -- Tejas Dinkar - tejasdinkar AT gmail DOT com If a listener nods his head when you're explaining your program, wake him up. From gdk at redhat.com Fri Jan 20 16:22:58 2006 From: gdk at redhat.com (Greg DeKoenigsberg) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 11:22:58 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] vacation In-Reply-To: <1137772906.13776.27.camel@linuxbox> References: <43D102CB.2020403@lm2.com.br> <20060120153446.M33447@fedora.redhat.com> <1137772906.13776.27.camel@linuxbox> Message-ID: Whoa, whoa, whoa! :) It's a tool, like any other tool. If people find it useful, it will get used. If not, not. I think that perhaps Steering Committee members should do this. But let's not get too indignant; no one is making you, or anyone else, do anything. If it's useful, do it. --g --------------------------------------------------------------- Greg DeKoenigsberg || Fedora Foundation || fedoraproject.org Be an Ambassador || http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors --------------------------------------------------------------- On Fri, 20 Jan 2006, Tejas Dinkar wrote: > On Fri, 2006-01-20 at 07:36 -0800, Thomas Chung wrote: > > Please add yourself in vacation wiki page. > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Vacation > > I don't believe this!!!! > > wtf should people make a mark on the wiki page when they are going on > vacation!!!!! > > Being a Fedora Ambassador is a voluntary effort... It is not a job!! > > We are not the FBI to have to know when our ambassadors are going on > vacation. > > What is next?? > > Only allowed to miss 7 meetings a year, only if we are sick, and > provided that we provide a Certificate from our Doctors? > > Being an ambassador is about helping people. But more important than > that: > > Being an Ambassador is supposed to be FUN. > > Gja > -- > Tejas Dinkar - tejasdinkar AT gmail DOT com > > If a listener nods his head when you're explaining your program, wake him up. > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > From tejasdinkar at gmail.com Fri Jan 20 16:26:11 2006 From: tejasdinkar at gmail.com (Tejas Dinkar) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 21:56:11 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] vacation In-Reply-To: References: <43D102CB.2020403@lm2.com.br> <20060120153446.M33447@fedora.redhat.com> <1137772906.13776.27.camel@linuxbox> Message-ID: <1137774371.13776.29.camel@linuxbox> On Fri, 2006-01-20 at 11:22 -0500, Greg DeKoenigsberg wrote: > Whoa, whoa, whoa! :) > > It's a tool, like any other tool. If people find it useful, it will get > used. If not, not. > > I think that perhaps Steering Committee members should do this. But let's > not get too indignant; no one is making you, or anyone else, do anything. > > If it's useful, do it. Heh, I think I flew off the handle with flames a bit. My apologies to Thomas. Tejas From thulshof at gmail.com Fri Jan 20 16:27:11 2006 From: thulshof at gmail.com (Thijs Hulshof) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 17:27:11 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] vacation In-Reply-To: <1137772906.13776.27.camel@linuxbox> References: <43D102CB.2020403@lm2.com.br> <20060120153446.M33447@fedora.redhat.com> <1137772906.13776.27.camel@linuxbox> Message-ID: <9590b2a80601200827r27daa74apc1356f831e0148b8@mail.gmail.com> On 1/20/06, Tejas Dinkar wrote: > > On Fri, 2006-01-20 at 07:36 -0800, Thomas Chung wrote: > > Please add yourself in vacation wiki page. > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Vacation > > I don't believe this!!!! > > wtf should people make a mark on the wiki page when they are going on > vacation!!!!! I think it's because we then know why we don't get answers from some Ambassadors. And it's not necessary to mark on the wikipage that you are on vacation, but it's more useful for yourself :-) Being a Fedora Ambassador is a voluntary effort... It is not a job!! > > We are not the FBI to have to know when our ambassadors are going on > vacation. > > What is next?? > > Only allowed to miss 7 meetings a year, only if we are sick, and > provided that we provide a Certificate from our Doctors? > > Being an ambassador is about helping people. But more important than > that: > > Being an Ambassador is supposed to be FUN. > > Gja > -- > Tejas Dinkar - tejasdinkar AT gmail DOT com > > If a listener nods his head when you're explaining your program, wake him > up. > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From c_tosta at terra.com.br Fri Jan 20 16:42:47 2006 From: c_tosta at terra.com.br (Christian Tosta) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 14:42:47 -0200 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Ambassadors Business Card Votes In-Reply-To: <20060120031856.M3047@fedora.redhat.com> References: <20060120031856.M3047@fedora.redhat.com> Message-ID: <200601201442.47698.c_tosta@terra.com.br> When we can use it? I like the first one, but can be a bit more beatiful. Cheers, Tosta. Em Sexta 20 Janeiro 2006 01:18, Thomas Chung escreveu: > Based on list archive and last meeting, here is the result for Ambassadors > Business Card Votes: > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/BusinessCards > > Business Card Options: > > # 1 - 8 votes > # 2 - 1 vote > # 3 - 1 vote > > -- > Thomas Chung > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list -- =========================================== Christian Tosta Gerente de Suporte Comjota Inform?tica e Servi?os Ltda MSN: eletric_eyes at hotmail.com ICQ: 23229858 =========================================== From tchung at fedora.redhat.com Fri Jan 20 17:45:30 2006 From: tchung at fedora.redhat.com (Thomas Chung) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 09:45:30 -0800 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] vacation In-Reply-To: <1137774371.13776.29.camel@linuxbox> References: <43D102CB.2020403@lm2.com.br> <20060120153446.M33447@fedora.redhat.com> <1137772906.13776.27.camel@linuxbox> <1137774371.13776.29.camel@linuxbox> Message-ID: <20060120173405.M84267@fedora.redhat.com> On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 21:56:11 +0530, Tejas Dinkar wrote > Heh, I think I flew off the handle with flames a bit. > > My apologies to Thomas. > > Tejas > It's alright. My intension was to let our Local Fedora Users know when our Local Fedora Ambassadors/Representatives are not available to contact when they are on vacation. In a way we are responsible to respond to our Local Fedora Users in your area. If they need help or discuss their needs, we - Ambassadors/Representatives - should make ourselves available to them. This is why we join Fedora Ambassadors Program, is not? We didn't join this program just to get free Fedora Materials or to be famous or to make ourselves look good on your resume. -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung From sundaram at redhat.com Sat Jan 21 02:59:11 2006 From: sundaram at redhat.com (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 08:29:11 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] vacation In-Reply-To: <1137772906.13776.27.camel@linuxbox> References: <43D102CB.2020403@lm2.com.br> <20060120153446.M33447@fedora.redhat.com> <1137772906.13776.27.camel@linuxbox> Message-ID: <43D1A37F.4010905@redhat.com> Tejas Dinkar wrote: >On Fri, 2006-01-20 at 07:36 -0800, Thomas Chung wrote: > > >>Please add yourself in vacation wiki page. >>http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Vacation >> >> > >I don't believe this!!!! > >wtf should people make a mark on the wiki page when they are going on >vacation!!!!! > > ... because you are now Fedora. People might contact you on various occasions. You might be a pest at times but they might still get worried if you dont respond ;-) -- Rahul Fedora Bug Triaging - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers From j.phulewala at gmail.com Sat Jan 21 04:26:54 2006 From: j.phulewala at gmail.com (Jaswinder Singh) Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 09:56:54 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] vacation In-Reply-To: <20060120173405.M84267@fedora.redhat.com> References: <43D102CB.2020403@lm2.com.br> <20060120153446.M33447@fedora.redhat.com> <1137772906.13776.27.camel@linuxbox> <1137774371.13776.29.camel@linuxbox> <20060120173405.M84267@fedora.redhat.com> Message-ID: <43D1B80E.2040200@gmail.com> Thomas Chung wrote: >On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 21:56:11 +0530, Tejas Dinkar wrote > > >>Heh, I think I flew off the handle with flames a bit. >> >>My apologies to Thomas. >> >>Tejas >> >> >> > >It's alright. My intension was to let our Local Fedora Users know when our Local Fedora >Ambassadors/Representatives are not available to contact when they are on vacation. > > Yes Thomas Chung i am agree with you on that local users should know about to whom they have to contact in need if their local ambassador is not present. cheers Jassy >In a way we are responsible to respond to our Local Fedora Users in your area. If they >need help or discuss their needs, we - Ambassadors/Representatives - should make >ourselves available to them. > >This is why we join Fedora Ambassadors Program, is not? > >We didn't join this program just to get free Fedora Materials or to be famous or to make >ourselves look good on your resume. >-- >Thomas Chung >http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung > >-- >Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > From j.phulewala at gmail.com Sat Jan 21 09:37:25 2006 From: j.phulewala at gmail.com (Jaswinder Singh) Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 15:07:25 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Work on wiki pages Message-ID: <43D200D5.8050909@gmail.com> Hi all In working on wiki pages to localize i want some help or guideline on following: i have localize page http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution after that i had put it on to http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/pa/FedoraPrincipal/??????????? Now when i click on any link fron 2nd one page then source page(english one) opened but i want these link from punjabi page to go their respective punjabi pages. i mean to say is all pages should open in http://fedoraprojects/wiki/pa/ Can any body tell me how to direct these links? Hope for reply Jassy From tejasdinkar at gmail.com Sat Jan 21 09:50:37 2006 From: tejasdinkar at gmail.com (Tejas Dinkar) Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 15:20:37 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Work on wiki pages In-Reply-To: <43D200D5.8050909@gmail.com> References: <43D200D5.8050909@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1137837037.13776.50.camel@linuxbox> On Sat, 2006-01-21 at 15:07 +0530, Jaswinder Singh wrote: > Can any body tell me how to direct these links? I'm not a wiki guy, but, if you want to do this manually, do it like this: Add this line to http://fedoraprojects/wiki/pa/ [[Include(pa/FedoraPrincipal?????)]] I think that is the syntax you are looking for Gja -- Tejas Dinkar - tejasdinkar AT gmail DOT com /* Halley */ (Halley's comment.) From j.phulewala at gmail.com Sat Jan 21 10:14:11 2006 From: j.phulewala at gmail.com (Jaswinder Singh) Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 15:44:11 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Work on wiki pages In-Reply-To: <1137837037.13776.50.camel@linuxbox> References: <43D200D5.8050909@gmail.com> <1137837037.13776.50.camel@linuxbox> Message-ID: <43D20973.6020903@gmail.com> Tejas By adding this line whole page is embedden into currents one. when i created one page in my local language(punjabi) all links on that page should direct to their respective punjabi pages(which will be also created). for example i hve done for: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution and its respective punjabi page is here: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/pa/FedoraPrincipal/??????????? now links on this created page (if clicked are directed to their respective english page instead of respective punjabi page. that was actual what i want to know how? thanks jassy Tejas Dinkar wrote: >On Sat, 2006-01-21 at 15:07 +0530, Jaswinder Singh wrote: > > >>Can any body tell me how to direct these links? >> >> > >I'm not a wiki guy, but, if you want to do this manually, do it like >this: > >Add this line to http://fedoraprojects/wiki/pa/ > >[[Include(pa/FedoraPrincipal?????)]] > >I think that is the syntax you are looking for > >Gja >-- >Tejas Dinkar - tejasdinkar AT gmail DOT com > >/* Halley */ > > (Halley's comment.) > >-- >Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > From barzilay at redhat.com Sat Jan 21 10:34:01 2006 From: barzilay at redhat.com (David Barzilay) Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 20:34:01 +1000 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Next Fedora Ambassadors Meeting: 22h UTC, Thursday, Jan 26 In-Reply-To: <7f617d270601200620x5ddb7704q7d31f5d0ad121be4@mail.gmail.com> References: <7f617d270601200620x5ddb7704q7d31f5d0ad121be4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1137839642.4158.0.camel@dhcp-68.brisbane.redhat.com> See you guys and girls there! Cheers, -- David Barzilay Fedora Global Ambassador Remote Ambassador for Brazil Em Sex, 2006-01-20 ?s 09:20 -0500, Alex Maier escreveu: > Be there or be square ;) > -- > Check out the new content on Fedora Project page! http://fedoraproject.org > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list From tejasdinkar at gmail.com Sat Jan 21 10:42:38 2006 From: tejasdinkar at gmail.com (Tejas Dinkar) Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 16:12:38 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Work on wiki pages In-Reply-To: <43D20973.6020903@gmail.com> References: <43D200D5.8050909@gmail.com> <1137837037.13776.50.camel@linuxbox> <43D20973.6020903@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1137840158.13776.57.camel@linuxbox> On Sat, 2006-01-21 at 15:44 +0530, Jaswinder Singh wrote: > Tejas > By adding this line whole page is embedden into currents one. > when i created one page in my local language(punjabi) all links on that > page should direct to their respective punjabi pages(which will be also > created). > > for example i hve done for: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution > and its respective punjabi page is here: > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/pa/FedoraPrincipal/??????????? > now links on this created page (if clicked are directed to their > respective english page instead of respective punjabi page. > that was actual what i want to know how? Hmmm, I still can't seem to understand what you want to do, but If I am correct, the links on /pa/FedoraPrincipal should go to the punjabi Wiki page, but are currently going to the english page. I don't know if the wiki has a way to automatically redirect like that, but you can manually redirect as such: here is the link to Fedora Legacy you have in that page: [:Legacy: ?????? ??????] change it to this: [:pa/Legacy: ?????? ??????] Is that what you had asked? Tejas From j.phulewala at gmail.com Sat Jan 21 11:01:07 2006 From: j.phulewala at gmail.com (Jaswinder Singh) Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 16:31:07 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Work on wiki pages In-Reply-To: <1137840158.13776.57.camel@linuxbox> References: <43D200D5.8050909@gmail.com> <1137837037.13776.50.camel@linuxbox> <43D20973.6020903@gmail.com> <1137840158.13776.57.camel@linuxbox> Message-ID: <43D21473.1040306@gmail.com> Tejas Dinkar wrote: >On Sat, 2006-01-21 at 15:44 +0530, Jaswinder Singh wrote: > > >>Tejas >> By adding this line whole page is embedden into currents one. >>when i created one page in my local language(punjabi) all links on that >>page should direct to their respective punjabi pages(which will be also >>created). >> >>for example i hve done for: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution >>and its respective punjabi page is here: >>http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/pa/FedoraPrincipal/??????????? >>now links on this created page (if clicked are directed to their >>respective english page instead of respective punjabi page. >>that was actual what i want to know how? >> >> > >Hmmm, I still can't seem to understand what you want to do, but If I am >correct, > >the links on /pa/FedoraPrincipal should go to the punjabi Wiki page, but >are currently going to the english page. > >I don't know if the wiki has a way to automatically redirect like that, >but you can manually redirect as such: > >here is the link to Fedora Legacy you have in that page: >[:Legacy: ?????? ??????] > >change it to this: >[:pa/Legacy: ?????? ??????] > > >Is that what you had asked? > > first i will try then i will say yes or no :) >Tejas > >-- >Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > From chitlesh at gmail.com Sat Jan 21 13:02:29 2006 From: chitlesh at gmail.com (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 14:02:29 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Next Fedora Ambassadors Meeting: 22h UTC, Thursday, Jan 26 In-Reply-To: <1137839642.4158.0.camel@dhcp-68.brisbane.redhat.com> References: <7f617d270601200620x5ddb7704q7d31f5d0ad121be4@mail.gmail.com> <1137839642.4158.0.camel@dhcp-68.brisbane.redhat.com> Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0601210502y68527432xb3506ee21c4e8347@mail.gmail.com> On 1/21/06, David Barzilay wrote: > See you guys and girls there! I think we have only one girl here :) -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com From mike.j.knox at gmail.com Sat Jan 21 19:19:25 2006 From: mike.j.knox at gmail.com (Michael Knox) Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 08:19:25 +1300 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Next Fedora Ambassadors Meeting: 22h UTC, Thursday, Jan 26 In-Reply-To: <13dbfe4f0601210502y68527432xb3506ee21c4e8347@mail.gmail.com> References: <7f617d270601200620x5ddb7704q7d31f5d0ad121be4@mail.gmail.com> <1137839642.4158.0.camel@dhcp-68.brisbane.redhat.com> <13dbfe4f0601210502y68527432xb3506ee21c4e8347@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Cool, I should be able to attend this time. Thanks Michael On 1/22/06, Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: > > On 1/21/06, David Barzilay wrote: > > See you guys and girls there! > > I think we have only one girl here :) > > > -- > http://clunixchit.blogspot.com > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nman64 at n-man.com Sun Jan 22 02:42:35 2006 From: nman64 at n-man.com (Patrick Barnes) Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 20:42:35 -0600 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Work on wiki pages In-Reply-To: <43D21473.1040306@gmail.com> References: <43D200D5.8050909@gmail.com> <1137837037.13776.50.camel@linuxbox> <43D20973.6020903@gmail.com> <1137840158.13776.57.camel@linuxbox> <43D21473.1040306@gmail.com> Message-ID: <43D2F11B.7030506@n-man.com> Tejas had this one right. You must manually link to each translated page, there is not an automatic way to do so. Simply add 'pa/' ahead of links. Also, your new page should be moved to http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/pa/%E0%A8%A1%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%9F%E0%A8%B0%E0%A9%80%E0%A8%AC%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%8A%E0%A8%B6%E0%A8%A8 from its current location. You need to match the English page hierarchy to avoid breaking things. Make sure you coordinate your efforts with Aman Alam, and you can both bring your questions to the #fedora-websites channel on freenode. -- Patrick "The N-Man" Barnes nman64 at n-man.com http://www.n-man.com/ -- Have I been helpful? Rate my assistance! http://rate.affero.net/nman64/ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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This link: http://www.photocommunications.com/vinyl-banner-vinyl-sign/index.html has some "sales" talk on why vinyl banners are good, granted though they are trying to sell you something. This link: http://www.bannersontime.com/digitalbanner_photos.htm#1 is a gallery of vinyl banners for a frame of reference. /jft From nman64 at n-man.com Sun Jan 22 04:04:53 2006 From: nman64 at n-man.com (Patrick Barnes) Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 22:04:53 -0600 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Ambassadors Meeting Minutes on 2006-01-19 In-Reply-To: <43D2FE2F.90704@elfshadow.net> References: <20060120031538.M54440@fedora.redhat.com> <43D2FE2F.90704@elfshadow.net> Message-ID: <43D30465.306@n-man.com> Jeffrey Tadlock wrote: > Thomas Chung wrote: >> * iWolf (?) > > That's me! > >> ThomasChung >> - We need a banner for Fedora Project for an event >> >> DavidBarzilay >> - need to be light (as in weight) and flexible material >> - gotta be durable > > I was the one that mentioned vinyl banners during the meeting. I > think these are some of the more frequently used materials in trade > shows I have been to. They should be pretty durable though, easy to > clean on the spot and probably get brighter colors out of them. > > > My personal experience with vinyl banners has been mixed. When they are used lightly and well cared for, they can last and aren't hard to maintain. They would probably work well for our purposes. They are lightweight, easy to handle and move, and our usage shouldn't be putting too much stress on them. When I worked as management in general retail, I would sometimes get vendors to provide banners for special events or promotions. They usually brought vinyl. For the most part, they worked well. Unfortunately, they were often damaged or destroyed by winds when used outside. We have some strong winds in this area sometimes. Mild winds aren't a problem. Also, once a vinyl sign is damaged, it isn't going to last much longer. Once a tear starts, it gets bigger, and there's nothing you can do about it. A banner under light indoor usage can last for years when properly cared for. A banner left outdoors in poor conditions can be completely destroyed in a few hours. Summary: Vinyl banners are a good idea, but we should provide some basic usage and care instructions to those who use it, to make sure that the banners will not be destroyed too quickly. These instructions might include not putting the banner up in bad weather, and taking them down at the end of each day (in the case of events that last more than one.) I can provide a wealth of tips on what works and what doesn't with vinyl banners, if anyone cares. -- Patrick "The N-Man" Barnes nman64 at n-man.com http://www.n-man.com/ -- Have I been helpful? Rate my assistance! http://rate.affero.net/nman64/ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Cheers, On 1/20/06, Christian Tosta wrote: > When we can use it? > I like the first one, but can be a bit more beatiful. > > Cheers, > > Tosta. > > Em Sexta 20 Janeiro 2006 01:18, Thomas Chung escreveu: > > Based on list archive and last meeting, here is the result for Ambassadors > > Business Card Votes: > > > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/BusinessCards > > > > Business Card Options: > > > > # 1 - 8 votes > > # 2 - 1 vote > > # 3 - 1 vote > > > > -- > > Thomas Chung > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- > =========================================== > Christian Tosta > Gerente de Suporte > Comjota Inform?tica e Servi?os Ltda > MSN: eletric_eyes at hotmail.com > ICQ: 23229858 > =========================================== > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > From sankarshan.mukhopadhyay at gmail.com Mon Jan 23 09:10:40 2006 From: sankarshan.mukhopadhyay at gmail.com (Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay) Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 14:40:40 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Introductory handouts/flyers for Fedora newbies at LinuxAsia - ideas anyone ? Message-ID: <43D49D90.90007@gmail.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I think that we will have a number of Fedora newbies (or newbies to Fedora) at LinuxAsia 2006. Is there a handout/flyer ready that sort of talks of the following: o What is Fedora o What are the projects within Fedora o Where to get Fedora o Where to get in touch o Mailing Lists (relevant ones aimed at newbies) o IRC channels o Found a Bug ? Why don't you tell us about it... o Want to get involved ? Just here's how... Regards Sankarshan - -- You see things; and you say 'Why?'; But I dream things that never were; and I say 'Why not?' - George Bernard Shaw -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Red Hat - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFD1J2QXQZpNTcrCzMRAm2FAKDAHYS5G4IpglMKsNFPxCWTyNmsgACfQ93T /gfhCnqJj/GGgoUqK+bV5AU= =uCps -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From sundaram at redhat.com Mon Jan 23 09:19:07 2006 From: sundaram at redhat.com (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 14:49:07 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Introductory handouts/flyers for Fedora newbies at LinuxAsia - ideas anyone ? In-Reply-To: <43D49D90.90007@gmail.com> References: <43D49D90.90007@gmail.com> Message-ID: <43D49F8B.4010008@redhat.com> Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay wrote: >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >Hash: SHA1 > >Hi, > >I think that we will have a number of Fedora newbies (or newbies to >Fedora) at LinuxAsia 2006. > >Is there a handout/flyer ready that sort of talks of the following: > >o What is Fedora > o What are the projects within Fedora >o Where to get Fedora >o Where to get in touch > o Mailing Lists (relevant ones aimed at newbies) > o IRC channels >o Found a Bug ? Why don't you tell us about it... >o Want to get involved ? Just here's how... > > http://people.redhat.com/sundaram. Pick the openoffice.org impress presentation and run through it. Combine it with http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/HelpWanted and surge ahead. -- Rahul Fedora Bug Triaging - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers From sankarshan.mukhopadhyay at gmail.com Mon Jan 23 09:24:06 2006 From: sankarshan.mukhopadhyay at gmail.com (Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay) Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 14:54:06 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Introductory handouts/flyers for Fedora newbies at LinuxAsia - ideas anyone ? In-Reply-To: <43D49F8B.4010008@redhat.com> References: <43D49D90.90007@gmail.com> <43D49F8B.4010008@redhat.com> Message-ID: <43D4A0B6.4050308@gmail.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Rahul Sundaram wrote: > http://people.redhat.com/sundaram. Pick the openoffice.org impress > presentation and run through it. Combine it with > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/HelpWanted and surge ahead. :) I was looking for some print ready PDFs :P Ambassadors have been attending events so if we had something ready I would really love to reuse it. Else, let me make time to create one for global dominance. Rgds SM - -- You see things; and you say 'Why?'; But I dream things that never were; and I say 'Why not?' - George Bernard Shaw -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Red Hat - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFD1KC2XQZpNTcrCzMRArS1AJ9JYgct3I6cNsDaD9AT6gcaXgcr5ACfTVV7 SI2tGtLhK73r+Z2rFHqmyUw= =NYt+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From tejasdinkar at gmail.com Mon Jan 23 13:36:34 2006 From: tejasdinkar at gmail.com (Tejas Dinkar) Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 19:06:34 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Introductory handouts/flyers for Fedora newbies at LinuxAsia - ideas anyone ? In-Reply-To: <43D4A0B6.4050308@gmail.com> References: <43D49D90.90007@gmail.com> <43D49F8B.4010008@redhat.com> <43D4A0B6.4050308@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1138023394.2882.4.camel@linuxbox> On Mon, 2006-01-23 at 14:54 +0530, Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay wrote: > :) I was looking for some print ready PDFs :P Ambassadors have been > attending events so if we had something ready I would really love to > reuse it. Else, let me make time to create one for global dominance. I had one for FOSS.in, which Venky dropped off for me. It was pretty decent. Except for the fact he brought like 200 and I only gave out 50 or so (mostly at my talk). Tejas From sankarshan.mukhopadhyay at gmail.com Mon Jan 23 14:13:28 2006 From: sankarshan.mukhopadhyay at gmail.com (Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay) Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 19:43:28 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Introductory handouts/flyers for Fedora newbies at LinuxAsia - ideas anyone ? In-Reply-To: <1138023394.2882.4.camel@linuxbox> References: <43D49D90.90007@gmail.com> <43D49F8B.4010008@redhat.com> <43D4A0B6.4050308@gmail.com> <1138023394.2882.4.camel@linuxbox> Message-ID: <43D4E488.3060406@gmail.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Tejas Dinkar wrote: > I had one for FOSS.in, which Venky dropped off for me. /me goes to bug Venkatesh. Rgds SM - -- You see things; and you say 'Why?'; But I dream things that never were; and I say 'Why not?' - George Bernard Shaw -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Red Hat - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFD1OSIXQZpNTcrCzMRArsTAJ95Xl/B9Cx1ti35wwWYgoD2yc1pfwCfQqE1 RB4WEEuoSLPIcmegMCUdqUM= =uVh8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From sundaram at redhat.com Mon Jan 23 15:19:53 2006 From: sundaram at redhat.com (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 20:49:53 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Introductory handouts/flyers for Fedora newbies at LinuxAsia - ideas anyone ? In-Reply-To: <43D4A0B6.4050308@gmail.com> References: <43D49D90.90007@gmail.com> <43D49F8B.4010008@redhat.com> <43D4A0B6.4050308@gmail.com> Message-ID: <43D4F419.3070801@redhat.com> Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay wrote: >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >Hash: SHA1 > >Rahul Sundaram wrote: > > > >>http://people.redhat.com/sundaram. Pick the openoffice.org impress >>presentation and run through it. Combine it with >>http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/HelpWanted and surge ahead. >> >> > >:) I was looking for some print ready PDFs :P > Thats what is in my people page. > Ambassadors have been >attending events so if we had something ready I would really love to >reuse it. Else, let me make time to create one for global dominance. > > Grab the PDF @ http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/TalkingPoints -- Rahul Fedora Bug Triaging - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers From rodrigomenezes12 at yahoo.com.br Mon Jan 23 15:34:25 2006 From: rodrigomenezes12 at yahoo.com.br (Rodrigo Menezes) Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 15:34:25 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Introductory handouts/flyers for Fedora newbies at LinuxAsia - ideas anyone ? In-Reply-To: <43D4F419.3070801@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20060123153425.84189.qmail@web33801.mail.mud.yahoo.com> How can I get this .pdf file in OpenOffice format? I wanna translate this to Brazilian Portuguese. Thanks in advance, Rodrigo Menezes Rahul Sundaram escreveu: Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay wrote: >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >Hash: SHA1 > >Rahul Sundaram wrote: > > > >>http://people.redhat.com/sundaram. Pick the openoffice.org impress >>presentation and run through it. Combine it with >>http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/HelpWanted and surge ahead. >> >> > >:) I was looking for some print ready PDFs :P > Thats what is in my people page. > Ambassadors have been >attending events so if we had something ready I would really love to >reuse it. Else, let me make time to create one for global dominance. > > Grab the PDF @ http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/TalkingPoints -- Rahul Fedora Bug Triaging - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers -- Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list --------------------------------- Yahoo! doce lar. Fa?a do Yahoo! sua homepage. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sundaram at redhat.com Mon Jan 23 15:36:34 2006 From: sundaram at redhat.com (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 21:06:34 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Introductory handouts/flyers for Fedora newbies at LinuxAsia - ideas anyone ? In-Reply-To: <20060123153425.84189.qmail@web33801.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20060123153425.84189.qmail@web33801.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <43D4F802.5080907@redhat.com> Rodrigo Menezes wrote: > How can I get this .pdf file in OpenOffice format? I wanna translate > this to Brazilian Portuguese. > > Thanks in advance, > > Rodrigo Menezes I havent finalised the content yet for that. Remind me again in a couple of weeks time. -- Rahul Fedora Bug Triaging - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers From michael at knox.net.nz Mon Jan 23 20:11:37 2006 From: michael at knox.net.nz (Michael J Knox) Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 09:11:37 +1300 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Introductory handouts/flyers for Fedora newbies at LinuxAsia - ideas anyone ? In-Reply-To: <43D49F8B.4010008@redhat.com> References: <43D49D90.90007@gmail.com> <43D49F8B.4010008@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1138047120.11116.5.camel@nemausa.et.endace.com> On Mon, 2006-01-23 at 14:49 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay wrote: > > >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > >Hash: SHA1 > > > >Hi, > > > >I think that we will have a number of Fedora newbies (or newbies to > >Fedora) at LinuxAsia 2006. > > > >Is there a handout/flyer ready that sort of talks of the following: > > > >o What is Fedora > > o What are the projects within Fedora > >o Where to get Fedora > >o Where to get in touch > > o Mailing Lists (relevant ones aimed at newbies) > > o IRC channels > >o Found a Bug ? Why don't you tell us about it... > >o Want to get involved ? Just here's how... > > > > > http://people.redhat.com/sundaram. Pick the openoffice.org impress > presentation and run through it. Combine it with > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/HelpWanted and surge ahead. > Hi Rahul, Nice work on the impress presentation. Are you happy for other Ambassadors using this as a basis for their own talks at local LUG's etc? I am working on doing some talks at my LUG sometime soon (just need to ditch this not liking talking in public thing) and it would useful not to start from scratch. Thanks! Michael From sundaram at redhat.com Mon Jan 23 20:30:25 2006 From: sundaram at redhat.com (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 02:00:25 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Introductory handouts/flyers for Fedora newbies at LinuxAsia - ideas anyone ? In-Reply-To: <1138047120.11116.5.camel@nemausa.et.endace.com> References: <43D49D90.90007@gmail.com> <43D49F8B.4010008@redhat.com> <1138047120.11116.5.camel@nemausa.et.endace.com> Message-ID: <43D53CE1.8050900@redhat.com> Hi >Hi Rahul, > >Nice work on the impress presentation. > >Are you happy for other Ambassadors using this as a basis for their own >talks at local LUG's etc? > > This is just a early draft or raw material I am rewriting it to fit into conferences that I intend to talk in. I will let you know when I think its ready to be used by others. >I am working on doing some talks at my LUG sometime soon (just need to >ditch this not liking talking in public thing) and it would useful not >to start from scratch. > Well, I am not saying you shouldnt be using it as a base but I would like few different from scratch attempts to explore different things and see what sticks better. There is also the question of the audience (students, commercial sector, etc) and local culture. -- Rahul Fedora Bug Triaging - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers From wmirror at gmail.com Mon Jan 23 21:46:07 2006 From: wmirror at gmail.com (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 22:46:07 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Account system for ambassador In-Reply-To: <43D4F802.5080907@redhat.com> References: <20060123153425.84189.qmail@web33801.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <43D4F802.5080907@redhat.com> Message-ID: <43D54E9F.9020303@gmail.com> I have complete the account system settings (my nick there is wmirror). I have request to join in the ambassador project now i'm waiting for a reply. In this day i and a friend (that help me to traduce some file for my little business) are traducing the Fedora Overview by Federic Hornain and, if we have other time other documents for friday. See ya Francesco Ugolini From barzilay at redhat.com Tue Jan 24 02:09:13 2006 From: barzilay at redhat.com (David Barzilay) Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 12:09:13 +1000 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Account system for ambassador In-Reply-To: <43D54E9F.9020303@gmail.com> References: <20060123153425.84189.qmail@web33801.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <43D4F802.5080907@redhat.com> <43D54E9F.9020303@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1138068553.4123.45.camel@dhcp-68.brisbane.redhat.com> Em Seg, 2006-01-23 ?s 22:46 +0100, Francesco Ugolini escreveu: > I have complete the account system settings (my nick there is > wmirror). > I have request to join in the ambassador project now i'm waiting for > a > reply. In this day i and a friend (that help me to traduce some file > for > my little business) are traducing the Fedora Overview by Federic > Hornain > and, if we have other time other documents for friday. Hi Francesco, Translating Overview is great start! May I suggest you translate some other basic content when you got the time: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/fedora-install-guide-en/fc4/ The Install Guide is a bigger task, but as long as you got two translators, you can share the workload, and also edit each other's content to improve quality. That's how we did for Brazilian Portuguese. Hope these help! Yours, -- David Barzilay Fedora Global Ambassador Remote Ambassador for Brazil From wmirror at gmail.com Tue Jan 24 13:27:10 2006 From: wmirror at gmail.com (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 14:27:10 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Account system for ambassador In-Reply-To: <1138068553.4123.45.camel@dhcp-68.brisbane.redhat.com> References: <20060123153425.84189.qmail@web33801.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <43D4F802.5080907@redhat.com> <43D54E9F.9020303@gmail.com> <1138068553.4123.45.camel@dhcp-68.brisbane.redhat.com> Message-ID: <43D62B2E.2010808@gmail.com> David Barzilay wrote: >Em Seg, 2006-01-23 ?s 22:46 +0100, Francesco Ugolini escreveu: > > >>I have complete the account system settings (my nick there is >>wmirror). >>I have request to join in the ambassador project now i'm waiting for >>a >>reply. In this day i and a friend (that help me to traduce some file >>for >>my little business) are traducing the Fedora Overview by Federic >>Hornain >>and, if we have other time other documents for friday. >> >> > >Hi Francesco, > >Translating Overview is great start! May I suggest you translate some >other basic content when you got the time: > >http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution >http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/fedora-install-guide-en/fc4/ > >The Install Guide is a bigger task, but as long as you got two >translators, you can share the workload, and also edit each other's >content to improve quality. > >That's how we did for Brazilian Portuguese. > >Hope these help! > >Yours, >-- >David Barzilay >Fedora Global Ambassador >Remote Ambassador for Brazil > >-- >Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > Ok i start when is possible for me to traduce both documents. Best regards Francesco Ugolini From j.phulewala at gmail.com Wed Jan 25 07:41:13 2006 From: j.phulewala at gmail.com (Jaswinder Singh) Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 13:11:13 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Work on wiki pages In-Reply-To: <43D2F11B.7030506@n-man.com> References: <43D200D5.8050909@gmail.com> <1137837037.13776.50.camel@linuxbox> <43D20973.6020903@gmail.com> <1137840158.13776.57.camel@linuxbox> <43D21473.1040306@gmail.com> <43D2F11B.7030506@n-man.com> Message-ID: <43D72B99.6040807@gmail.com> Patrick Barnes wrote: >Tejas had this one right. You must manually link to each translated >page, there is not an automatic way to do so. Simply add 'pa/' ahead of >links. Also, your new page should be moved to >http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/pa/%E0%A8%A1%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%9F%E0%A8%B0%E0%A9%80%E0%A8%AC%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%8A%E0%A8%B6%E0%A8%A8 >from its current location. > if i move page from current position to in ../wiki/pa/ then after that for new member there will not be any source page to create his own. i have translated the page (english source pages) from under ../wiki/ and ther put then into .../wiki/pa/ but when links on the created page clicked they opened from english source page in stead of respective punjabi page which is also in .../wiki/pa/ > You need to match the English page hierarchy >to avoid breaking things. Make sure you coordinate your efforts with >Aman Alam, and you can both bring your questions to the #fedora-websites >channel on freenode. > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >-- >Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > From lxmaier at gmail.com Wed Jan 25 18:52:49 2006 From: lxmaier at gmail.com (Alex Maier) Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 13:52:49 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Meeting Reminder: Thursday, Jeanuary 26, 2006, 22:00 UTC Message-ID: <7f617d270601251052w3ca2e037seae59640db8d47c9@mail.gmail.com> -- Check out the new content on Fedora Project page! http://fedoraproject.org From che666 at gmail.com Thu Jan 26 11:18:30 2006 From: che666 at gmail.com (Rudolf Kastl) Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 12:18:30 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] saying hello to ya all and general feedback about attending meetings Message-ID: Hello! My name is Rudolf Kastl and i am actively "advertizing" rh/fedora for quite a while. Since i work for a software/consulting company i am booked by various top 200 companys and fedora is part of my "toolchain". One backdraw though are meetings in general. I am usually "on the road" alot where i dont have the possibility to connect to services like irc (you cant attend an irc session if you are sitting in a companys development and research department at work) So generally i wont attend many meetings (its a pity but i cant help there) but i will still be actively working on increasing the market share of fedora/linux as well as getting new developers involved into the project. One of the permanent facilities i created is the #fedora-de channel on freenode for german users. while there are not many users there, there are various people with clue that are able to help people that only speak german or people that have problems describing their bug in english. The channel is meanwhile up for a few years. regards, Rudolf Kastl From tchung at fedora.redhat.com Thu Jan 26 17:45:17 2006 From: tchung at fedora.redhat.com (Thomas Chung) Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 09:45:17 -0800 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] saying hello to ya all and general feedback about attending meetings In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20060126174517.M60039@fedora.redhat.com> On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 12:18:30 +0100, Rudolf Kastl wrote > Hello! > > My name is Rudolf Kastl and i am actively "advertizing" rh/fedora for > quite a while. Hi Rudolf, Welcome to Fedora Ambassadors Project! I just noticed you haven't posted your profile and contact information in your personal wiki page - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/RudolfKastl For your proposal, I would create a sub wiki page and link it from your personal wiki page. See http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/WikiEditing Also, please create an account with Fedora Account System if you need a fedoraproject email address. See - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Emails Once again, welcome to Fedora Ambassadors Project. :) -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung From sundaram at redhat.com Thu Jan 26 19:01:40 2006 From: sundaram at redhat.com (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 00:31:40 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] saying hello to ya all and general feedback about attending meetings In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <43D91C94.2040204@redhat.com> Rudolf Kastl wrote: >Hello! > >My name is Rudolf Kastl and i am actively "advertizing" rh/fedora for >quite a while. > >Since i work for a software/consulting company i am booked by various >top 200 companys and fedora is part of my "toolchain". One backdraw >though are meetings in general. I am usually "on the road" alot where >i dont have the possibility to connect to services like irc (you cant >attend an irc session if you are sitting in a companys development and >research department at work) > >So generally i wont attend many meetings (its a pity but i cant help >there) but i will still be actively working on increasing the market >share of fedora/linux as well as getting new developers involved into >the project. > >One of the permanent facilities i created is the #fedora-de channel on >freenode for german users. while there are not many users there, there >are various people with clue that are able to help people that only >speak german or people that have problems describing their bug in >english. The channel is meanwhile up for a few years. > Welcome finally. I was expecting to see you in here long back. Even if you dont show up in a meetings the mins are posted in the wiki and here. So you would be able to take part in the discussions. -- Rahul Fedora Bug Triaging - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers From chitlesh at fedoraproject.org Thu Jan 26 19:14:08 2006 From: chitlesh at fedoraproject.org (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 20:14:08 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Event: Strasbourg (date partly finalised) In-Reply-To: References: <13dbfe4f0512190927v5be0b19bg4524c80372c26cf0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0601261114h2434fff8ya0dc26ecd9e2ed52@mail.gmail.com> On 12/19/05, Greg DeKoenigsberg wrote: > > Thanks for the update, Chitlesh. > Updates: I have secured a booth for the event in Strasbourg: see http://strasbourg.linuxfr.org/jl4/stands-assoc -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com From gerold at lugd.org Thu Jan 26 19:21:10 2006 From: gerold at lugd.org (Gerold Kassube) Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 20:21:10 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Event: Strasbourg (date partly finalised) In-Reply-To: <13dbfe4f0601261114h2434fff8ya0dc26ecd9e2ed52@mail.gmail.com> References: <13dbfe4f0512190927v5be0b19bg4524c80372c26cf0@mail.gmail.com> <13dbfe4f0601261114h2434fff8ya0dc26ecd9e2ed52@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1138303270.2902.2.camel@NB-Fedora.homenet.local> Am Donnerstag, den 26.01.2006, 20:14 +0100 schrieb Chitlesh GOORAH: > On 12/19/05, Greg DeKoenigsberg wrote: > > > > Thanks for the update, Chitlesh. > > > > Updates: > I have secured a booth for the event in Strasbourg: > see http://strasbourg.linuxfr.org/jl4/stands-assoc > +1 great Job, Chitlesh -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From chitlesh at fedoraproject.org Thu Jan 26 20:18:30 2006 From: chitlesh at fedoraproject.org (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 21:18:30 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Idea: Fedora in Library In-Reply-To: <13dbfe4f0601140911p4f2f5b4el90225ada0fcc2001@mail.gmail.com> References: <13dbfe4f0601131440p5fb1a478t503a835736e19d99@mail.gmail.com> <1137248986.43c90adb0063b@mail.ravensong.com> <9590b2a80601140739m5ce63d16y710d33180a685982@mail.gmail.com> <8e1ee2a30601140838g44de1d13ge189906b604b6ed5@mail.gmail.com> <13dbfe4f0601140911p4f2f5b4el90225ada0fcc2001@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0601261218o47956d79q8b9e79d0cab22b3c@mail.gmail.com> Last time, during the meeting we could not talk much about it. Rather I was too stupid during the meeting. This is mostly a topic to talk about in the list rather than during meetings. Here I am again. Ok We have some new ambassadors around, so there's a link about the FedoraLibrary idea: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/FedoraLibraries https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-marketing-list/2006-January/msg00027.html Now Ill call for Brainstorming :) Bring your ideas. What do we need? Who will start where? Are there any restrictions with some kind of law? -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com From chitlesh at fedoraproject.org Thu Jan 26 21:06:58 2006 From: chitlesh at fedoraproject.org (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 22:06:58 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Meeting Reminder : 26/01/2006 Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0601261306i10af044rf5d6ab16aeca5b7b@mail.gmail.com> Hello everyone, this is a meeting reminder. The next meeting will be in 50 Mins. That is : 2006-01-26 22:00 UTC http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?year=2006&month=01&day=26&hour=22&min=0&sec=0 The following topics will be discussed : http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Schedule -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com From info at kampnytt.com Thu Jan 26 23:37:33 2006 From: info at kampnytt.com (Mikael Jacobsson) Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 00:37:33 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Some words from your beloved Swedish Ambassador! Message-ID: <43D95D3D.3010802@kampnytt.com> I am writing this to let everyone know a little bit more about what i am working on, and what i have planned. I got sick last week, and haven't been able to do any real work since thuesday that week. I have been able to attend those two meetings that have been since that. Which feels good, then i havent missed anything there. :) Anyhow, here is some short info: 1. This is the msot important project for me personally - I am working on a website that will promote fedora in Sweden, that will assist new and current users and more. Unfortunally there were a mayor set back 2 weeks ago. I have chosen to use free php solutions to save time, which it didn't. And the script i choose from the beginning destroyed a lot of my work by cutting of longer articles. I have been forced to start over. I am happy with what i have now and work will continue. 2. I am active in the translation group so lot of my time will go to that. Because of sickness i haven't been able to do anything mayor yet. Which feels a bit disappointing... 3. I am ordering businesscards as soon as i have the money to pay for it. 4. As soon as I have a working and decent website, i plan to contact the mayor computer magazine in Sweden and tell them about it. They have writen about stuff i have done before, so it should be any problems, but who knows :) 5. I am supporting the Kadischi project, so far there have been some translation. Whenever Kadischi needs me I am there :) 6. I am going to start looking into the events thing. What kinds of events there are in Sweden, what kind of budget i need and stuff like that. My economy doesnt allow any travelling right now, but i hope that it will change soon. These are some things that i am doing, i might have missed some but its atleast a little contribution ;) Thoughts, ideas and whatever are welcome Best regards, Mikael Jacobsson Swedish Ambassador From tchung at fedora.redhat.com Thu Jan 26 23:54:44 2006 From: tchung at fedora.redhat.com (Thomas Chung) Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 15:54:44 -0800 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Some words from your beloved Swedish Ambassador! In-Reply-To: <43D95D3D.3010802@kampnytt.com> References: <43D95D3D.3010802@kampnytt.com> Message-ID: <20060126235444.M86034@fedora.redhat.com> On Fri, 27 Jan 2006 00:37:33 +0100, Mikael Jacobsson wrote > I am writing this to let everyone know a little bit more about what i am > working on, and what i have planned. I got sick last week, and haven't > been able to do any real work since thuesday that week. I have been able > to attend those two meetings that have been since that. Which feels > good, then i havent missed anything there. :) > Hi Mikael, Thank you for sharing what's going on in your life and your plan with us. I hope you are fully recover and be active again as a Swedish Ambassador. :) Regards, -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung From tchung at fedora.redhat.com Fri Jan 27 01:33:42 2006 From: tchung at fedora.redhat.com (Thomas Chung) Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 17:33:42 -0800 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Business Cards Issue Message-ID: <20060127012807.M60265@fedora.redhat.com> All, Per Greg DeKoenigsberg, I have made more *official* for my Business Cards Template at: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/BusinessCards If you have any questions or suggestions, please contact me. Also I have moved this issue to Closed Issues since it's more appropriate: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Schedule Regards, -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung From sundaram at redhat.com Fri Jan 27 02:03:52 2006 From: sundaram at redhat.com (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 07:33:52 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Localization as a movement in India (AKA why you should read Red Hat Magazine every month ) Message-ID: <43D97F88.50704@redhat.com> Hi Rajesh Ranjan, one of the Fedora Ambassadors has published a article in Red Hat Magazine this month with some editorial help from yours truly. http://www.redhat.com/magazine/015jan06/features/rhindia/ From the article.. "Rajesh Ranjan is Language Maintainer, Hindi at Red Hat. He is working with several localization projects including Fedora, GNOME, Openoffice.org, and Mozilla. He is the Indic Language Co-ordinator for the Native Language Confederation of Openoffice.org. Before joining Red Hat, he worked with The Indian Express Group and Literate World, Inc.". Excellent work Rajesh. Keep spreading the good word of Linux, Free and open source software and of course Fedora. -- Rahul Fedora Bug Triaging - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers From barzilay at redhat.com Fri Jan 27 02:22:04 2006 From: barzilay at redhat.com (David Barzilay) Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 12:22:04 +1000 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Business Cards Issue In-Reply-To: <20060127012807.M60265@fedora.redhat.com> References: <20060127012807.M60265@fedora.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1138328524.4525.39.camel@dhcp-68.brisbane.redhat.com> Hi Folks, If these are official, can we please have some thorough HOWTOs: HOWTO CUSTOMIZE WITH MY NAME HOWTO PRINT WHO CAN USE WHEN TO USE ETC Many thanks, -- David Barzilay Fedora Global Ambassador Remote Ambassador for Brazil Em Qui, 2006-01-26 ?s 17:33 -0800, Thomas Chung escreveu: > All, > > Per Greg DeKoenigsberg, I have made more *official* for my Business Cards Template at: > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/BusinessCards > > If you have any questions or suggestions, please contact me. > > Also I have moved this issue to Closed Issues since it's more appropriate: > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Schedule > > Regards, > -- > Thomas Chung > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list From barzilay at redhat.com Fri Jan 27 03:06:15 2006 From: barzilay at redhat.com (David Barzilay) Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 13:06:15 +1000 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] [Fwd: Translation Quick Start Guide Ready] Message-ID: <1138331175.4525.43.camel@dhcp-68.brisbane.redhat.com> Hi All, This is a very useful document for contributors willing to work on translation. Please feel free to use it, enjoy it and to spread the word! Yours, -- David Barzilay Fedora Global Ambassador Remote Ambassador for Brazil -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: A S Alam Subject: Translation Quick Start Guide Ready Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 17:20:39 +0530 Size: 3522 URL: From barzilay at redhat.com Fri Jan 27 03:31:47 2006 From: barzilay at redhat.com (David Barzilay) Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 13:31:47 +1000 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Some words from your beloved Swedish Ambassador! In-Reply-To: <43D95D3D.3010802@kampnytt.com> References: <43D95D3D.3010802@kampnytt.com> Message-ID: <1138332707.4525.62.camel@dhcp-68.brisbane.redhat.com> Hi Mikael, Some comments inline... Em Sex, 2006-01-27 ?s 00:37 +0100, Mikael Jacobsson escreveu: (snip) > 1. This is the msot important project for me personally - I am working > on a website that will promote fedora in Sweden, that will assist new > and current users and more. Unfortunally there were a mayor set back 2 > weeks ago. I have chosen to use free php solutions to save time, which > it didn't. And the script i choose from the beginning destroyed a lot of > my work by cutting of longer articles. I have been forced to start over. > I am happy with what i have now and work will continue. Local websites are a great initiative, Mikael! Probably one of the best ways to bridge the gap in between English-speakers and only-native- language speakers. You can also make Fedora more accessible to newbies by providing them with easy-to-understand concepts and usage guidelines. Remember, not everyone is as geeky (no offense here) as you. > 2. I am active in the translation group so lot of my time will go to > that. That's also great! BTW, does your community have an FC4 Install Guide in Swedish? I believe that's the one document to start fomenting FC usage among average computer users. > Because of sickness i haven't been able to do anything mayor yet. > Which feels a bit disappointing... > > 3. I am ordering businesscards as soon as i have the money to pay for it. Glad to hear it. I hope we are able to provide you with all support you need. If not, please let us know. > 4. As soon as I have a working and decent website, i plan to contact the > mayor computer magazine in Sweden and tell them about it. They have > writen about stuff i have done before, so it should be any problems, but > who knows :) Ask them if they'd like to write an article on FC5. Great opportunity to expose the new release and also to recruit more contributors for the various FC sub-projects ;)) > 5. I am supporting the Kadischi project, so far there have been some > translation. Whenever Kadischi needs me I am there :) > > 6. I am going to start looking into the events thing. What kinds of > events there are in Sweden, what kind of budget i need and stuff like > that. My economy doesnt allow any travelling right now, but i hope that > it will change soon. As we got a very restricted budget, try to save whenever and wherever you can i.e. finding local accommodation at friends places, low fares, sharing booths with lugs and other open source projects... > These are some things that i am doing, i might have missed some but its > atleast a little contribution ;) Keep up the great work! Yours, -- David Barzilay Fedora Global Ambassador Remote Ambassador for Brazil > Thoughts, ideas and whatever are welcome > > Best regards, > > Mikael Jacobsson > Swedish Ambassador > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list From che666 at gmail.com Fri Jan 27 13:45:24 2006 From: che666 at gmail.com (Rudolf Kastl) Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 14:45:24 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] saying hello to ya all and general feedback about attending meetings In-Reply-To: <43D91C94.2040204@redhat.com> References: <43D91C94.2040204@redhat.com> Message-ID: 2006/1/26, Rahul Sundaram : > Rudolf Kastl wrote: > > >Hello! > > > >My name is Rudolf Kastl and i am actively "advertizing" rh/fedora for > >quite a while. > > > >Since i work for a software/consulting company i am booked by various > >top 200 companys and fedora is part of my "toolchain". One backdraw > >though are meetings in general. I am usually "on the road" alot where > >i dont have the possibility to connect to services like irc (you cant > >attend an irc session if you are sitting in a companys development and > >research department at work) > > > >So generally i wont attend many meetings (its a pity but i cant help > >there) but i will still be actively working on increasing the market > >share of fedora/linux as well as getting new developers involved into > >the project. > > > >One of the permanent facilities i created is the #fedora-de channel on > >freenode for german users. while there are not many users there, there > >are various people with clue that are able to help people that only > >speak german or people that have problems describing their bug in > >english. The channel is meanwhile up for a few years. > > > Welcome finally. I was expecting to see you in here long back. Even if > you dont show up in a meetings the mins are posted in the wiki and here. > So you would be able to take part in the discussions. > > -- > Rahul > > Fedora Bug Triaging - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > Hello Rahul and Thomas, I am glad i finally arrived here. i know that i have to still clean up my wiki page. please bear with it because i also have to do some coverage tests on bugzilla aswell for my patches and fix up the pida spec file that is up for review ;). that will all happen this weekend i hope. the only downside is my lack of inet con so i hope i can compensate most of the deficits. I will try to integrate myself into the existing community as good as possible. regards and best wishes, Rudolf Kastl From info at kampnytt.com Fri Jan 27 18:08:20 2006 From: info at kampnytt.com (Mikael Jacobsson) Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 19:08:20 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Re: Some words from your beloved Swedish Ambassador! Message-ID: <43DA6194.9000600@kampnytt.com> Hi David >>Local websites are a great initiative, Mikael! Probably one of the best >>ways to bridge the gap in between English-speakers and only-native- >>language speakers. >>You can also make Fedora more accessible to newbies by providing them >>with easy-to-understand concepts and usage guidelines. >>Remember, not everyone is as geeky (no offense here) as you. I have plans on translating most of the documents on fedora.redhat.com website, with the installation guide as the first one out... Other documents and so on relating to Linux in general will also be available... i have registered a channel on freenode, and a forum will be up soon... This is some of the content planned.... >>That's also great! BTW, does your community have an FC4 Install Guide in >>Swedish? I believe that's the one document to start fomenting FC usage >>among average computer users. See above... >>Glad to hear it. I hope we are able to provide you with all support you >>need. If not, please let us know. Yes the support is great... get lots of it at #fedora-mktg >>Ask them if they'd like to write an article on FC5. Great opportunity to >>expose the new release and also to recruit more contributors for the >>various FC sub-projects ;)) I will look into it, and see if they want to do that... >>As we got a very restricted budget, try to save whenever and wherever >>you can i.e. finding local accommodation at friends places, low fares, >>sharing booths with lugs and other open source projects... A lot of big events takes place in Gothenburg and those shouldn't be any problems. I have relatives living there. And the cost for train isnt that much. The worst one is when events are in Stockholm, there i dont know anyone and its expensive to go there because i live so far from that town. Regards, Mikael Jacobsson From lxmaier at gmail.com Fri Jan 27 19:43:06 2006 From: lxmaier at gmail.com (Alex Maier) Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 14:43:06 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Ambassadors meeting notes January 26, 22 UTC Message-ID: <7f617d270601271143q5a26c2afj89c839c561b52ec1@mail.gmail.com> Next Meeting: Feb 02, 2006, 14:00 UTC Ambassador Meeting Notes January 26, 2006, 22:00 UTC Attending: GregDeKoenigsberg (gregdek) GeroldKassube (GeroldKa) Niklot (Guest) ChitleshGoorah AurelienBompard (abompard) DavidBarzilay (barz) JoseTarazona Xenion (Guest) AlexMaier (lxmaier) RahulSundaram (mether) FrancescoUgolini KarstenWade (quaid) BobJensen (MicroBob) MikeKnox (monkey|wrk) MikaelJacobsson (maikaru) GeroldKa has invited Niklot and Xenion to participate the meeting later on, because they may be interested in becoming Ambassadors Upcoming Events http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents Solutions Linux (Paris, abompard) abompard received stuff for Soultions Linux it was still in one piece, but not far from torn apart abompard will be able to attend 2 days out of 3 abompard is translating Fred's slides to french right now http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/Slides GNUify (Pune, mether) the original slides - about 50 or so are in: http://people.redhat.com/sundaram/ mether is cutting down and reorganising them based on a new idea otherwise nothing else to report on FUDCon @ LinuxAsia (New Delhi, mether) Planning for this is going well; schedule is almost finished; schwag is delivered; we're just about ready to go. mether is rewriting the slides and will upload it when its done to the common pool all the arrangements are mostly done by now SCALE 4x (tchung) tchung received 70 t-shirts and 150 DVDs. planning to burn 50 more DVDs himself. tchung will take a lot of pictures at the event to record it and report about it. tchung is not sure about a blog but there will be plenty of pictures and a special coverage in FWN. :) quaid tchung: sorry I'm not going to make it SCALE, I'm cutting back on travel it seems Banners: tchung ok. I suppose I could cook something up in local stationey store. :) JoseTarazona Banner for shows (I'm working on two events for Universities, dates still pending.) and one for a website for my country gregdek lxmaier: I'm starting to think it makes more sense to manufacture centrally and ship. lxmaier i could supervise the manufacturing in Germany and/or UK lxmaier and we could have [sasquatch] ship them out to other locations within europe gregdek will have an update on schwag coming up this week, which will include banners etc. FOSDEM (Fred) gregdek OK, no Fred. We'll discuss FOSDEM later barz lwce in sydney is targeting businesses and .org booths are way 2 expensive. we decided dropping this one, not suitable 4 FC's audience or budget. It will be removed from the wiki ChitleshGoorah has secured a booth for Fedora for the Strasbourg event. He posted it lately on the M.list ChitleshGoorah Sure if someone is interested can join me ChitleshGoorah If not Ill be with my gf and maybe a fedora user too ChitleshGoorah our lug is looking for hotels which can provide us cheap prices for the event :) JoseTarazona I'm interested, count with me monkey|wrk I might be able to attend the linuxworldexpo in Sydney barz they do have .org, but same prices LWCE Sydney will be removed from events list richard Tuttle has added OSCON to the event list, which is outstanding. We will need an update from him. nman64 Unfortunately, we can't provide a bunch of money for everyone to get to every event (we'd love to if we could), so we have to consider each event and decide where the money should go. The same budget is also used for producing merchandise. The Steering Committee is working on policies and procedures to get everything moving smoothly. If ever you have an event near you that you would like to try to get to, come up with a budget and let us know what you need. We'll do the best we can. Part of being an ambassador is acting as the regional contact for the team. We can add links to the ambassador pages from that page. If a local user wants us to attend or wants our support, they should contact their local Ambassador. maikaru ok... those events in stockholm are the expensive ones and those in gothenburg are the not so expensive... i know ppl there that i can sleep at if needed... i plan to contact the biggest computermagazine in sweden so swedish ppl will know about me soon ;) Fedora Libraries (Chitlesh) launched FedoraLibraries in the list. ambassadors need to move ASAP for this project. the discussion to continue on the list. FUDCon / LinuxTag at Wiesbaden. lxmaier and gregdek had a conversation with Florian Brand from RH Germany today. GeroldKa and Florian will be co-owners. Schwag pipeline. gregdek We've got a plan that I'll be publicising to ambassadors-list later today. Goal: to have the schwag pipeline up, funded and working by March 15th. Right now, we've got a lot of requests, but not a lot of resources. Yet. But "help is on the way". BUT: we will NOT be sending single T-shirts or anything like that. We will be sending KITS to ambassadors. Too expensive to drop-ship single Ts and hats and such. Kits, as of right now, will consist of: * Hats; * Pens; * Stickers; * Posters. However many we can fit into about $100 worth of stuff. Note: this does NOT include t-shirts. Why? Because T-shirts are: * expensive for what you get; * always in the wrong size; * bulkier to ship. Note: there WILL be a place to ORDER shirts, but they will NOT be part of the kits. nman64 In the future, we should be able to work with a service like CafePress or Spreadshirt to offer T-shirts and other merchandise as a fundraising tool, but not yet. BUSINESS CARDS We have four proposed designs. Let's pick the best one or two and move! http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/BusinessCards you'll need Avery stock# 8871 it's official policy: Use tchung's template at http://fedoranews.org/tchung/biz please read readme.txt FrancescoUgolini I have only to say that i'm working on the fedora installation guide in italian, i've done the beginning and the first chapter, and i think in a week or two i've finished to traduce. So see ya the next week and good night -- Check out the new content on Fedora Project page! http://fedoraproject.org From tchung at fedoraproject.org Fri Jan 20 03:12:01 2006 From: tchung at fedoraproject.org (Thomas Chung) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 19:12:01 -0800 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Ambassadors Meeting Minutes on 2006-01-19 Message-ID: <20060120030730.M86399@fedoraproject.org> == Present == * AlexMaier (lxmaier) * AurelienBompard (abompard) * ChitleshGoorah * GeroldKassube (GeroldKa) * DavidBarzilay (barz) * FrancescoUgolini * BobJensen * MauricioPretto * ThomasChung (tchung) * iWolf (?) * ThorstenLeemhuis (thl) * GregDeKoenigsberg (gregdek) * MikaelJacobsson (maikaru) * RobertWhetsel (rwhetsel) == Review upcoming events == http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents * Solutions Linux 2006 (Jan 31-Feb 2) in Paris, France: AurelienBompard - can't have a booth but I'll be there one day only (last day) - I can give papers and dvds to friends in the lug AlexMaier - you will receive 75 Ts and 150 DVDs - it will be 25 Ts and 50 dvds a day to distribute - these are all Ts with old logo ChitleshGoorah - have the others take pictures of the event * GNUify (Feb 4-5) in Pune, India: RahulSundaram is not present * Linux Asia 2006 (Feb 8-10) in New Delhi India: RahulSundaram is not present SankarshanMukhopadhyay is not present AlexMaier - a package for this event as well and it will go out to SatishMohan - we have divided up all the tshirts and DVDs we had among four events - linuxAsia, Solutions Linux, FOSDEM, and SCALE 4X - we will have more goodies when the new quarter comes (March 1) * SCALE 4X (Feb 11-12) in Los Angeles, CA ThomasChung is late for report but GregDeKoenigsberg sent him the package via FedEx. * NOTE on donation or fund-raising at the Event: AlexMaier - everybody--before we have finished the foundation's legal details, please DO NOT FUNDRAISE - no fund-raising, at all, not until we have some kind of status - if someone offers to buy you pizza, feel free to accept, but no money * FOSDEM (Feb 25-26) in Brussel, Belgium: FredericHornain is not present AlexMaier - we have sent a care package to hornain too - 75 Ts and 150 DVDs * LWCE Australia (Mar 28-30) in Sydney, Australia: DavidBarzilay - jwulf and another local enthusiast will check their availability - will let u know via email AlexMaier - we have no more DVDs for this one, but hope to have FC5 until then - we'll have to improvise, maybe burn DVDs on site or something - we can produce Ts and other schwag as soon as we have the new quarter == Fedora Libraries == ChitleshGoorah - this is a project of ubuntu that Im going to copy :) - the idea is to give libraries dvds and the latter will lend them like books - afterwards they can give a try to Fedora and copy the dvd etc - but to be honest this will be mostly done by lugs - ambassadors or members of the lugs can give a small intro about fedora ThomasChung - we have not found maintainer for LiveCD project yet. - We posted a call for maintainer for LiveCD project twice in FWN == LinuxTag and FUDCon == GeroldKassube - Is there a FUDCon in LinuxTag (Wiesbaden,Germany) ? - I haven't done anything till now AlexMaier - please get in touch with LinuxTag and reserve a booth for fedora - we will try to have a FUDCon there too - FUDCon being at the event with a booth in the .ORG area is essential ThomasChung - we are allowed to have 3-4 FUDCons in a year - we are planning to have it in LinuxAsia, LinuxTag and LinuxWorld (Boston) == Schwag pipepline == GregDeKoenigsberg - Right now, there *is* *no* *pipeline*. There is *me* and *Alex*. - We're working to famsco. We're working that plan == Email Aliases for fedoraproject.org == Thomas Chung - email aliases issue can be moved to closed issues - everyone in Ambassadors should sign up in Fedora Account System in order to get email aliases - this issue has been moved to closed issues == Funding Options for Show == DavidBarzilay - we can come up with some creative funding ways - we gotta establish some boundaries for possible partnerships == Presentations for Ambassadors == DavidBarzilay - we already got some presentations in fedoraproject.org - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/Slides - we could have a few default models, i.e. for schools and universities, another for gov agencies MauricioPretto - has been working on localizing an FC presentation to Brazilian Portuguese - we should have one about the FEDORA CORE, other about fedora foundation, FDS, Fedora Cluster Suite FrancescoUgolini - will work on localizing an FC presentation for Italian market == Standard Kits for Ambassadors == ThomasChung - We need a banner for Fedora Project for an event - Fedora mouse pads? Fedora pens? DavidBarzilay - need to be light (as in weight) and flexible material - gotta check costs - gotta be durable - can you get us some quotes on different materials GeroldKassube - Fedora pins? Fedora LiveCDs? == Business Cards for Ambassadors == AurelienBompard - We should have some space on it for the GPG fingerprint - they could be used in keysigning parties too ThomasChung - Removed Business Card option #4 since its color is not official - we should have an option to print them ourselves - will count the votes for biz card options from archive and irc - will send out meeting minutes if someone send me a full IRC log DavidBarzilay - Time to check list archive and make a decision on the votes - bus cards are a crucial material and i believe we cannot take much longer - talk to our graphic designer about these - standard dimension for the paper? color specifications? printer technologies? - please count the votes for biz card options in the archive and post'em to the list == Next Meeting == * 2006-01-26 22:00 UTC * See World Time at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung From kevinverma at gmail.com Mon Jan 23 10:12:47 2006 From: kevinverma at gmail.com (Kevin Verma) Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 15:42:47 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Re: Introducing Fedora Ambassadors Program In-Reply-To: <000001c61fee$579f4110$610faac2@a> References: <000001c61fee$579f4110$610faac2@a> Message-ID: On 1/23/06, Ab wrote: > Dear Kevin > Thank you for your email. Could you please send me your photo to replace > you in my RAM! > Also can you add me please in the fedora ambassadors' list. > > Thanks > > Ahmed Thanks to you very much for your followup, I do not have much of pictures but here attached is an old one so you can recall me :) To be a part of Fedora Ambassadors Program, you will have to please, read more on http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/HowTo and : 1. Join Fedora-ambassadors-list https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list 2. create an account on FedoraProject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/UserPreferences Many Thanks, Kevin Verma -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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See - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Emails Once again, welcome to Fedora Ambassadors Project. :) -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung From tchung at fedoraproject.org Thu Jan 26 23:54:16 2006 From: tchung at fedoraproject.org (Thomas Chung) Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 15:54:16 -0800 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Some words from your beloved Swedish Ambassador! In-Reply-To: <43D95D3D.3010802@kampnytt.com> References: <43D95D3D.3010802@kampnytt.com> Message-ID: <20060126234915.M23544@fedoraproject.org> On Fri, 27 Jan 2006 00:37:33 +0100, Mikael Jacobsson wrote > I am writing this to let everyone know a little bit more about what i am > working on, and what i have planned. I got sick last week, and haven't > been able to do any real work since thuesday that week. I have been able > to attend those two meetings that have been since that. Which feels > good, then i havent missed anything there. :) > Hi Mikael, Thank you for sharing what's going on in your life and your plan with us. I hope you are fully recover and be active again as a Swedish Ambassador. :) Regards, -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung From gerold at lugd.org Fri Jan 27 08:47:47 2006 From: gerold at lugd.org (Gerold Kassube) Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 09:47:47 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] what do u think about Message-ID: <1138351667.2912.4.camel@NB-Fedora.homenet.local> Team, are these business-cards "good for printing"? Any comments? Regards Gerold -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: businesscard_GeroldKA.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 57294 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I wonder the difference in quality printing from pdf and odt. -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung From tchung at fedoraproject.org Fri Jan 27 20:46:28 2006 From: tchung at fedoraproject.org (Thomas Chung) Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 12:46:28 -0800 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] duplicate mails Message-ID: <20060127204007.M16846@fedora.redhat.com> For those wondering why you're getting duplicate mails from me including old ones: There has been a mail routing issue with redhat mailing list server which prevented some of us to receiving mails from fedoraproject.org email address via mailing list. It seems this issue have been finally resolved as I'm begin receiving mails from my own fedoraproject.org email address. :) Thank you Eliot and Seth! -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung From halaba at o2.pl Sat Jan 28 17:07:45 2006 From: halaba at o2.pl (Merlin) Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 18:07:45 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] PLD LINUX DAY In-Reply-To: <43CD2710.8060505@o2.pl> References: <43CD2710.8060505@o2.pl> Message-ID: <43DBA4E1.8040408@o2.pl> Merlin napisa?(a): > Hello I'm Ambasador from poland, I writed few days ago about PLD linux > day is Poznan in poland. I want to go there but i don't have a money > for trip. I want to go there to talk about FC and new fc5. And i now > you can help my:) Last time when i write about this you ask my about > pld linux day and what i wan talk: > and its link > PLD Linux Day > pld.wmid.amu.edu.pl - official site of PLD linux Day > faq.fedora.pl - i use a mateial from this site. Ples give me a answer > I think you can help My > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > From david at serwas.co.at Sun Jan 29 09:13:28 2006 From: david at serwas.co.at (David Hackl) Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2006 10:13:28 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Introduction of myself Message-ID: <43DC8738.9020208@serwas.co.at> Dear members of ambassadors list, may I introduce myself in list because I didn't find time to join the last meeting. My name is David Hackl, 18, from Europe/Austria. I'm part of the LUGT (Linux User Group Tirol) that also helps to organise the Linuxweeks in austria where I do mainorganising for Tirol. I use Linux about 10 Years now. I work as an IT-Technician in a small austrian computer school and do also commercial Webprojects in PHP/MySQL. So why did I join the amassadors: Because I think RPM-based distributions are the best way for beginners in Linux and I was looking for a Gnome-Desktop Environment (Don't like KDE that much). And so FC is the best choice I can make at the moment to give it out to the beginners. I want to force the fedora things in Linux Weeks too and also give it out to our customers at school. Well if you want to know anything else about me be not afraid to ask me. Sincerely yours, David Hackl From gerold at lugd.org Sun Jan 29 10:23:58 2006 From: gerold at lugd.org (Gerold Kassube) Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2006 11:23:58 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Introduction of myself In-Reply-To: <43DC8738.9020208@serwas.co.at> References: <43DC8738.9020208@serwas.co.at> Message-ID: <1138530238.2901.5.camel@NB-Fedora.homenet.local> WOW, so let's welcome you David ... You startet your Linux-career with 8 years?! GREAT .... I feel myselt as an Grandfather ... But doesn't matter, we're all glad to have young enthuastic mans like you in our team! Hope to see you soon Regards Gerold Am Sonntag, den 29.01.2006, 10:13 +0100 schrieb David Hackl: > Dear members of ambassadors list, > > may I introduce myself in list because I didn't find time to join the > last meeting. > > My name is David Hackl, 18, from Europe/Austria. I'm part of the LUGT > (Linux User Group Tirol) that also helps to organise the Linuxweeks in > austria where I do mainorganising for Tirol. I use Linux about 10 Years now. > > I work as an IT-Technician in a small austrian computer school and do > also commercial Webprojects in PHP/MySQL. > > So why did I join the amassadors: Because I think RPM-based > distributions are the best way for beginners in Linux and I was looking > for a Gnome-Desktop Environment (Don't like KDE that much). And so FC is > the best choice I can make at the moment to give it out to the > beginners. I want to force the fedora things in Linux Weeks too and also > give it out to our customers at school. > > Well if you want to know anything else about me be not afraid to ask me. > > Sincerely yours, > > David Hackl > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- Gerold Kassube -Vorstandsvorsitzender- Linux Usergroup L?rrach e.V. Marie-Curie-Strasse 8 79539 L?rrach _ ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) - against HTML email X & vCards / \ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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GREAT .... > I feel myselt as an Grandfather ... > > But doesn't matter, we're all glad to have young enthuastic mans like > you in our team! > > Hope to see you soon > > Regards > > Gerold > > Am Sonntag, den 29.01.2006, 10:13 +0100 schrieb David Hackl: > >> Dear members of ambassadors list, >> >> may I introduce myself in list because I didn't find time to join the >> last meeting. >> >> My name is David Hackl, 18, from Europe/Austria. I'm part of the LUGT >> (Linux User Group Tirol) that also helps to organise the Linuxweeks in >> austria where I do mainorganising for Tirol. I use Linux about 10 Years now. >> >> I work as an IT-Technician in a small austrian computer school and do >> also commercial Webprojects in PHP/MySQL. >> >> So why did I join the amassadors: Because I think RPM-based >> distributions are the best way for beginners in Linux and I was looking >> for a Gnome-Desktop Environment (Don't like KDE that much). And so FC is >> the best choice I can make at the moment to give it out to the >> beginners. I want to force the fedora things in Linux Weeks too and also >> give it out to our customers at school. >> >> Well if you want to know anything else about me be not afraid to ask me. >> >> Sincerely yours, >> >> David Hackl >> >> >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> From Frederic.Hornain at GB.BE Sun Jan 29 15:43:21 2006 From: Frederic.Hornain at GB.BE (Hornain Frederic) Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2006 16:43:21 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Ambassadors meeting notes January 26, 22 UTC Message-ID: Dear Alex, Greg, Rahul, all As I was not able to be present at the Ambassador meeting - sorry for that -, I want just to let you know I am doing some work on my part. I can divide it in five little pragraphs. EVENTS - FOSDEM Brussels (Belgium) - > FOSDEM (Fred) > gregdek OK, no Fred. We'll discuss FOSDEM later Well, I have received some information from the FOSDEM team about how it will go on there and so on. Anyway, as I written previously on the mailling list I am going to take pictures of this event. BTW, I think I would write as soon as I would have time a wiki draft about my experience to be behind the fedora stand at a Open Source Event. I have well received the Fedora Event Pack which is composed of 75 and several FC4 Dvds. Thanks a lot ! Just a little remark about that. It could be interesting for the next time to have more Tee-Shirt with a smaller size cause not a lot of people is wearing XXXL, XXL. Anyway, I understand perfectly Alex and Greg are doing there best to provide us the best support they can offer to us. Thanks again. Now, I do not want to hurt someone here. It is just a remark. Greg, Alex if you have any questions or remarks feel free to send me an email. - HP IT.Exec Meeting Enterprise UNIX to LINUX migration Brussels Belgium I have talk with the HP Linux team here in Belgium and it was really intersting. Indeed, more and more big companies are going to do projects on Linux principaly on RH. When I said projects, it is not only samba, bind and other respectables open softwares I talking about. For instance, all systems at an european aircraft control has recently migrated on linux. Great, isn't it ? Then, the "UNIX to LINUX migration" presentation was instructive. I am going to adapt the "UNIX to LINUX migration" slide for the fedora project cause I think it could be intersting for us. BTW, I have asked the agreement from the Belgian HP Linux Team and I have got it. Now, I have just taken contact with them. SLIDES > Solutions Linux (Paris, abompard) > abompard received stuff for Soultions Linux > it was still in one piece, but not far from torn apart > abompard will be able to attend 2 days out of 3 > abompard is translating Fred's slides to french right now > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/Slides I will create new slides -see above - BUISINESS CARDS Thanks for your work Thomas ! ADVERTISING BOARDS For the FOSDEM and as I have not got any advertising boards, banners and so on, I am doing some ones. I am going to upload them on the fedora project wiki web site asap. EDUCATION Rahul, For your information, Ok I did not find time to add some information in this section about my experience in Schools. I am going to do that asap. For the moment, it is frozen cause students are overbooked till end of february. Anyway, the next event is planned at the end of the next month. If you have any questions or remarks feel free to send me an email. Best Regards Fred -----Original Message----- From: fedora-ambassadors-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:fedora-ambassadors-list-bounces at redhat.com]On Behalf Of Alex Maier Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 8:43 PM To: Ambassadors List Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Ambassadors meeting notes January 26,22 UTC Next Meeting: Feb 02, 2006, 14:00 UTC Ambassador Meeting Notes January 26, 2006, 22:00 UTC Attending: GregDeKoenigsberg (gregdek) GeroldKassube (GeroldKa) Niklot (Guest) ChitleshGoorah AurelienBompard (abompard) DavidBarzilay (barz) JoseTarazona Xenion (Guest) AlexMaier (lxmaier) RahulSundaram (mether) FrancescoUgolini KarstenWade (quaid) BobJensen (MicroBob) MikeKnox (monkey|wrk) MikaelJacobsson (maikaru) GeroldKa has invited Niklot and Xenion to participate the meeting later on, because they may be interested in becoming Ambassadors Upcoming Events http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents Solutions Linux (Paris, abompard) abompard received stuff for Soultions Linux it was still in one piece, but not far from torn apart abompard will be able to attend 2 days out of 3 abompard is translating Fred's slides to french right now http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/Slides GNUify (Pune, mether) the original slides - about 50 or so are in: http://people.redhat.com/sundaram/ mether is cutting down and reorganising them based on a new idea otherwise nothing else to report on FUDCon @ LinuxAsia (New Delhi, mether) Planning for this is going well; schedule is almost finished; schwag is delivered; we're just about ready to go. mether is rewriting the slides and will upload it when its done to the common pool all the arrangements are mostly done by now SCALE 4x (tchung) tchung received 70 t-shirts and 150 DVDs. planning to burn 50 more DVDs himself. tchung will take a lot of pictures at the event to record it and report about it. tchung is not sure about a blog but there will be plenty of pictures and a special coverage in FWN. :) quaid tchung: sorry I'm not going to make it SCALE, I'm cutting back on travel it seems Banners: tchung ok. I suppose I could cook something up in local stationey store. :) JoseTarazona Banner for shows (I'm working on two events for Universities, dates still pending.) and one for a website for my country gregdek lxmaier: I'm starting to think it makes more sense to manufacture centrally and ship. lxmaier i could supervise the manufacturing in Germany and/or UK lxmaier and we could have [sasquatch] ship them out to other locations within europe gregdek will have an update on schwag coming up this week, which will include banners etc. FOSDEM (Fred) gregdek OK, no Fred. We'll discuss FOSDEM later barz lwce in sydney is targeting businesses and .org booths are way 2 expensive. we decided dropping this one, not suitable 4 FC's audience or budget. It will be removed from the wiki ChitleshGoorah has secured a booth for Fedora for the Strasbourg event. He posted it lately on the M.list ChitleshGoorah Sure if someone is interested can join me ChitleshGoorah If not Ill be with my gf and maybe a fedora user too ChitleshGoorah our lug is looking for hotels which can provide us cheap prices for the event :) JoseTarazona I'm interested, count with me monkey|wrk I might be able to attend the linuxworldexpo in Sydney barz they do have .org, but same prices LWCE Sydney will be removed from events list richard Tuttle has added OSCON to the event list, which is outstanding. We will need an update from him. nman64 Unfortunately, we can't provide a bunch of money for everyone to get to every event (we'd love to if we could), so we have to consider each event and decide where the money should go. The same budget is also used for producing merchandise. The Steering Committee is working on policies and procedures to get everything moving smoothly. If ever you have an event near you that you would like to try to get to, come up with a budget and let us know what you need. We'll do the best we can. Part of being an ambassador is acting as the regional contact for the team. We can add links to the ambassador pages from that page. If a local user wants us to attend or wants our support, they should contact their local Ambassador. maikaru ok... those events in stockholm are the expensive ones and those in gothenburg are the not so expensive... i know ppl there that i can sleep at if needed... i plan to contact the biggest computermagazine in sweden so swedish ppl will know about me soon ;) Fedora Libraries (Chitlesh) launched FedoraLibraries in the list. ambassadors need to move ASAP for this project. the discussion to continue on the list. FUDCon / LinuxTag at Wiesbaden. lxmaier and gregdek had a conversation with Florian Brand from RH Germany today. GeroldKa and Florian will be co-owners. Schwag pipeline. gregdek We've got a plan that I'll be publicising to ambassadors-list later today. Goal: to have the schwag pipeline up, funded and working by March 15th. Right now, we've got a lot of requests, but not a lot of resources. Yet. But "help is on the way". BUT: we will NOT be sending single T-shirts or anything like that. We will be sending KITS to ambassadors. Too expensive to drop-ship single Ts and hats and such. Kits, as of right now, will consist of: * Hats; * Pens; * Stickers; * Posters. However many we can fit into about $100 worth of stuff. Note: this does NOT include t-shirts. Why? Because T-shirts are: * expensive for what you get; * always in the wrong size; * bulkier to ship. Note: there WILL be a place to ORDER shirts, but they will NOT be part of the kits. nman64 In the future, we should be able to work with a service like CafePress or Spreadshirt to offer T-shirts and other merchandise as a fundraising tool, but not yet. BUSINESS CARDS We have four proposed designs. Let's pick the best one or two and move! http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/BusinessCards you'll need Avery stock# 8871 it's official policy: Use tchung's template at http://fedoranews.org/tchung/biz please read readme.txt FrancescoUgolini I have only to say that i'm working on the fedora installation guide in italian, i've done the beginning and the first chapter, and i think in a week or two i've finished to traduce. So see ya the next week and good night -- Check out the new content on Fedora Project page! http://fedoraproject.org -- Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list From gerold at lugd.org Sun Jan 29 15:43:11 2006 From: gerold at lugd.org (Gerold Kassube) Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2006 16:43:11 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Description for Linuxtag Germany Message-ID: <1138549391.2901.29.camel@NB-Fedora.homenet.local> Team, Thorsten Lemhuis (thl) helps me a lot of preparing the German Linuxtag. He creates the following descriptions in German and english. Can please anybody review these words?! We have to fullfinish our login till next week! short description Englisch: Develops together with Red Hat the Linux-Distribution Fedora Core and the LDAP-Server Fedora Directory Server plus packages a lot of software suitable for Fedora Core in the community project Fedora Extras. Description Englisch: The Fedora Project was started as a development project by Red Hat around the Linux. Its goal is to create a complete and general-to-use Operating-System that is based only on Open-Source-Software. The most wide know part of the Project is the quite well known and often used Linux distribution Fedora Core, that uses Open-Source Software only. Its developers closely work together with the programmers that create the software and often include the latest versions of these applications in the distribution. Fedora Core publishes about two versions a year and round about every third one is used as a base for Red Hat Enterprise Linux. Besides Fedora Core there are several related sub-projects: The community-driven Fedora Extras for example packages additional Software for Fedora Core in RPM-Pages that can easily be installed from the Distribution. Fedora Legacy provides security-updates for older releases of Fedora Core. The Project Fedora Directory Server is driven by both the community and Red Hat to further enhance the sourcecode from the Netscape LDAP-Server, that Red Hat bought and published as Open-Source last year. Kurzbeschreibung Deutsch: Entwickelt zusammen mit Red Hat die Linux-Distribution Fedora Core und den LDAP-Server Fedora Directory Server sowie stellt ?ber das Community-Projekt Fedora Extras ein gro?es Portfolio an Zusatzsoftware f?r die Distribution bereit. Beschreibung Deutsch: Das Fedora Project ist ein von Red Hat gestartetes offenes Entwicklungs-Projekt rund um Linux-Software. Das Ziel des Projektes ist, mit der Linux-Community zusammen zu arbeiten, um ein komplettes, universelles Betriebssystem ausschlie?lich auf der Basis von Open-Source-Software zu entwickeln. Der wohl bekannteste Teil des Projekts d?rfte die ausschlie?lich auf Open-Source-Software bestehende Linux-Distribution Fedora Core sein, das weltweit zu einer der am h?ufigsten eingesetzten Linuxe z?hlt. die Fedora-Entwickler arbeitet eng mit den Programmieren der enthaltenen Software zusammen und integrieren meist aktuelle Versionen der Anwendungen in die Distribution. Zirka jede dritte der normalerweise im halbjahresrhythmus erscheinenden Versionen von Fedora Core bildet die Basis f?r des kommerziellen Red Hat Enterprise Linux. Rund um Fedora Core drehen sich einige andere Projekte: Das weitgehend von der Community gef?hrte Fedora Extras stellt zus?tzliche Software in Form einfach zu installierender RPM-Pakete bereit. Das ebenfalls von interessierten Anwendern gepflegte Fedora Legacy stellt Sicherheitsupdates f?r ?ltere Fedora-Versionen bereit. Beim Fedora Directory Server entwickelt Red Hat zusammen mit der Open-Source-Community an der Weiterentwicklung des von Netscape ?bernommenen und unter eine Open-Source-Lizenz gestellten LDAP-Servers. -- Regards Gerold Kassube Fedora Ambassador Deutschland / Germany Email: GeroldKa at fedoraproject.org 1024D/F33128B9 4ABC A903 F1F4 D9CC C422 AACA EDF1 DF42 F331 28B9 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From rwhetsel at ravensong.com Sun Jan 29 17:49:54 2006 From: rwhetsel at ravensong.com (Robert Whetsel) Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2006 12:49:54 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Ambassadors meeting notes January 26, 22 UTC In-Reply-To: <7f617d270601271143q5a26c2afj89c839c561b52ec1@mail.gmail.com> References: <7f617d270601271143q5a26c2afj89c839c561b52ec1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1138556994.43dd00423d9a9@mail.ravensong.com> ALCON, Sorry for not making the meeting; I had surgery this week and was a bit preoccupied. I will be back to work on Monday the 30th, and back into the swing of things next week with my action items for Fedora. Quoting Alex Maier : > Next Meeting: Feb 02, 2006, 14:00 UTC > > Ambassador Meeting Notes January 26, 2006, 22:00 UTC > > Attending: > GregDeKoenigsberg (gregdek) > GeroldKassube (GeroldKa) > Niklot (Guest) > ChitleshGoorah > AurelienBompard (abompard) > DavidBarzilay (barz) > JoseTarazona > Xenion (Guest) > AlexMaier (lxmaier) > RahulSundaram (mether) > FrancescoUgolini > KarstenWade (quaid) > BobJensen (MicroBob) > MikeKnox (monkey|wrk) > MikaelJacobsson (maikaru) > > > GeroldKa has invited Niklot and Xenion to participate the meeting > later on, because they may be interested in becoming Ambassadors > > Upcoming Events > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents > > Solutions Linux (Paris, abompard) > abompard received stuff for Soultions Linux > it was still in one piece, but not far from torn apart > abompard will be able to attend 2 days out of 3 > abompard is translating Fred's slides to french right now > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/Slides > > GNUify (Pune, mether) > the original slides - about 50 or so are in: > http://people.redhat.com/sundaram/ > mether is cutting down and reorganising them based on a new idea > otherwise nothing else to report on > > FUDCon @ LinuxAsia (New Delhi, mether) > Planning for this is going well; schedule is almost finished; schwag > is delivered; we're just about ready to go. > mether is rewriting the slides and will upload it when its done to the > common pool > all the arrangements are mostly done by now > > SCALE 4x (tchung) > tchung received 70 t-shirts and 150 DVDs. > planning to burn 50 more DVDs himself. > tchung will take a lot of pictures at the event to record it and > report about it. > tchung is not sure about a blog but there will be plenty of pictures > and a special coverage in FWN. :) > quaid tchung: sorry I'm not going to make it SCALE, I'm cutting back > on travel it seems > > Banners: > tchung ok. I suppose I could cook something up in local stationey store. :) > JoseTarazona Banner for shows (I'm working on two events for > Universities, dates still pending.) and one for a website for my > country > gregdek lxmaier: I'm starting to think it makes more sense to > manufacture centrally and ship. > lxmaier i could supervise the manufacturing in Germany and/or UK > lxmaier and we could have [sasquatch] ship them out to other locations > within europe > gregdek will have an update on schwag coming up this week, which will > include banners etc. > > FOSDEM (Fred) > gregdek OK, no Fred. We'll discuss FOSDEM later > > barz lwce in sydney is targeting businesses and .org booths are way 2 > expensive. we decided dropping this one, not suitable 4 FC's audience > or budget. > It will be removed from the wiki > > ChitleshGoorah has secured a booth for Fedora for the Strasbourg > event. He posted it lately on the M.list > ChitleshGoorah Sure if someone is interested can join me > ChitleshGoorah If not Ill be with my gf and maybe a fedora user too > ChitleshGoorah our lug is looking for hotels which can provide us > cheap prices for the event :) > JoseTarazona I'm interested, count with me > > monkey|wrk I might be able to attend the linuxworldexpo in Sydney > barz they do have .org, but same prices > LWCE Sydney will be removed from events list > > richard Tuttle has added OSCON to the event list, which is > outstanding. We will need an update from him. > > nman64 Unfortunately, we can't provide a bunch of money for everyone > to get to every event (we'd love to if we could), so we have to > consider each event and decide where the money should go. The same > budget is also used for producing merchandise. The Steering Committee > is working on policies and procedures to get everything moving > smoothly. If ever you have an event near you that you would like to > try to get to, come up with a budget and let us know what you need. > We'll do the best we can. > Part of being an ambassador is acting as the regional contact for the > team. We can add links to the ambassador pages from that page. If a > local user wants us to attend or wants our support, they should > contact their local Ambassador. > > maikaru ok... those events in stockholm are the expensive ones and > those in gothenburg are the not so expensive... i know ppl there that > i can sleep at if needed... i plan to contact the biggest > computermagazine in sweden so swedish ppl will know about me soon ;) > > Fedora Libraries (Chitlesh) > launched FedoraLibraries in the list. ambassadors need to move ASAP > for this project. the discussion to continue on the list. > > FUDCon / LinuxTag at Wiesbaden. > lxmaier and gregdek had a conversation with Florian Brand from RH > Germany today. GeroldKa and Florian will be co-owners. > > Schwag pipeline. > gregdek We've got a plan that I'll be publicising to ambassadors-list > later today. Goal: to have the schwag pipeline up, funded and working > by March 15th. Right now, we've got a lot of requests, but not a lot > of resources. Yet. But "help is on the way". > BUT: we will NOT be sending single T-shirts or anything like that. We > will be sending KITS to ambassadors. Too expensive to drop-ship single > Ts and hats and such. > Kits, as of right now, will consist of: > * Hats; > * Pens; > * Stickers; > * Posters. > However many we can fit into about $100 worth of stuff. > > Note: this does NOT include t-shirts. Why? > Because T-shirts are: > * expensive for what you get; > * always in the wrong size; > * bulkier to ship. > > Note: there WILL be a place to ORDER shirts, but they will NOT be part > of the kits. > nman64 In the future, we should be able to work with a service like > CafePress or Spreadshirt to offer T-shirts and other merchandise as a > fundraising tool, but not yet. > > BUSINESS CARDS > We have four proposed designs. > Let's pick the best one or two and move! > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/BusinessCards > you'll need Avery stock# 8871 > it's official policy: Use tchung's template at > http://fedoranews.org/tchung/biz > please read readme.txt > > FrancescoUgolini I have only to say that i'm working on the fedora > installation guide in italian, i've done the beginning and the first > chapter, and i think in a week or two i've finished to traduce. So see > ya the next week and good night > > -- > Check out the new content on Fedora Project page! http://fedoraproject.org > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- Cheers, Robert C. Whetsel - CEO & Founder Fedora Global Ambassador SuSE Developer RavenSong Open Technologies, Inc. DBA: The Raven Group (1992) Open Source Architects Specializing in Enterprise Linux Business Solutions Frederick Innovative Technology Center 401 Rosemont Avenue Frederick, MD 21701 240-215-3944 www.ravensong.com From barzilay at redhat.com Mon Jan 30 01:13:22 2006 From: barzilay at redhat.com (David Barzilay) Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 11:13:22 +1000 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Re: Some words from your beloved Swedish Ambassador! In-Reply-To: <43DA6194.9000600@kampnytt.com> References: <43DA6194.9000600@kampnytt.com> Message-ID: <1138583602.4232.9.camel@dhcp-68.brisbane.redhat.com> Mikael, It is great to have you here! Keep up the good work. Yours, -- David Barzilay Fedora Global Ambassador Remote Ambassador for Brazil Em Sex, 2006-01-27 ?s 19:08 +0100, Mikael Jacobsson escreveu: > Hi David > > >>Local websites are a great initiative, Mikael! Probably one of the best > >>ways to bridge the gap in between English-speakers and only-native- > >>language speakers. > > >>You can also make Fedora more accessible to newbies by providing them > >>with easy-to-understand concepts and usage guidelines. > > >>Remember, not everyone is as geeky (no offense here) as you. > > I have plans on translating most of the documents on fedora.redhat.com > website, with the installation guide as the first one out... Other > documents and so on relating to Linux in general will also be > available... i have registered a channel on freenode, and a forum will > be up soon... This is some of the content planned.... > > > > >>That's also great! BTW, does your community have an FC4 Install Guide in > >>Swedish? I believe that's the one document to start fomenting FC usage > >>among average computer users. > > See above... > > > > > > >>Glad to hear it. I hope we are able to provide you with all support you > >>need. If not, please let us know. > > Yes the support is great... get lots of it at #fedora-mktg > > > > >>Ask them if they'd like to write an article on FC5. Great opportunity to > >>expose the new release and also to recruit more contributors for the > >>various FC sub-projects ;)) > > I will look into it, and see if they want to do that... > > > > >>As we got a very restricted budget, try to save whenever and wherever > >>you can i.e. finding local accommodation at friends places, low fares, > >>sharing booths with lugs and other open source projects... > > A lot of big events takes place in Gothenburg and those shouldn't be any > problems. I have relatives living there. And the cost for train isnt > that much. > The worst one is when events are in Stockholm, there i dont know anyone > and its expensive to go there because i live so far from that town. > > > Regards, > > Mikael Jacobsson > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list From che666 at gmail.com Mon Jan 30 13:42:07 2006 From: che666 at gmail.com (Rudolf Kastl) Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 14:42:07 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Description for Linuxtag Germany In-Reply-To: <1138549391.2901.29.camel@NB-Fedora.homenet.local> References: <1138549391.2901.29.camel@NB-Fedora.homenet.local> Message-ID: 2006/1/29, Gerold Kassube : > Team, > > Thorsten Lemhuis (thl) helps me a lot of preparing the German Linuxtag. > He creates the following descriptions in German and english. > > Can please anybody review these words?! We have to fullfinish our login > till next week! > > short description Englisch: > > Develops together with Red Hat the Linux-Distribution Fedora Core and > the LDAP-Server Fedora Directory Server plus packages a lot of software > suitable for Fedora Core in the community project Fedora Extras. > > > > Description Englisch: > > The Fedora Project was started as a development project by Red Hat > around the Linux. Its goal is to create a complete and general-to-use > Operating-System that is based only on Open-Source-Software. > > The most wide know part of the Project is the quite well known and often > used Linux distribution Fedora Core, that uses Open-Source Software > only. Its developers closely work together with the programmers that > create the software and often include the latest versions of these > applications in the distribution. Fedora Core publishes about two > versions a year and round about every third one is used as a base for > Red Hat Enterprise Linux. > > Besides Fedora Core there are several related sub-projects: The > community-driven Fedora Extras for example packages additional Software > for Fedora Core in RPM-Pages that can easily be installed from the > Distribution. Fedora Legacy provides security-updates for older releases > of Fedora Core. The Project Fedora Directory Server is driven by both > the community and Red Hat to further enhance the sourcecode from the > Netscape LDAP-Server, that Red Hat bought and published as Open-Source > last year. > > > > Kurzbeschreibung Deutsch: > > Entwickelt zusammen mit Red Hat die Linux-Distribution Fedora Core und > den LDAP-Server Fedora Directory Server sowie stellt ?ber das > Community-Projekt Fedora Extras ein gro?es Portfolio an Zusatzsoftware > f?r die Distribution bereit. > > > > > Beschreibung Deutsch: > > > > Das Fedora Project ist ein von Red Hat gestartetes offenes > Entwicklungs-Projekt rund um Linux-Software. Das Ziel des Projektes ist, > mit der Linux-Community zusammen zu arbeiten, um ein komplettes, > universelles Betriebssystem ausschlie?lich auf der Basis von > Open-Source-Software zu entwickeln. > > Der wohl bekannteste Teil des Projekts d?rfte die ausschlie?lich auf > Open-Source-Software bestehende Linux-Distribution Fedora Core sein, das > weltweit zu einer der am h?ufigsten eingesetzten Linuxe z?hlt. die > Fedora-Entwickler arbeitet eng mit den Programmieren der enthaltenen > Software zusammen und integrieren meist aktuelle Versionen der > Anwendungen in die Distribution. Zirka jede dritte der normalerweise im > halbjahresrhythmus erscheinenden Versionen von Fedora Core bildet die > Basis f?r des kommerziellen Red Hat Enterprise Linux. > > Rund um Fedora Core drehen sich einige andere Projekte: Das weitgehend > von der Community gef?hrte Fedora Extras stellt zus?tzliche Software in > Form einfach zu installierender RPM-Pakete bereit. Das ebenfalls von > interessierten Anwendern gepflegte Fedora Legacy stellt > Sicherheitsupdates f?r ?ltere Fedora-Versionen bereit. Beim Fedora > Directory Server entwickelt Red Hat zusammen mit der > Open-Source-Community an der Weiterentwicklung des von Netscape > ?bernommenen und unter eine Open-Source-Lizenz gestellten LDAP-Servers. > > > -- > Regards > > Gerold Kassube > Fedora Ambassador > > Deutschland / Germany > Email: GeroldKa at fedoraproject.org > > 1024D/F33128B9 4ABC A903 F1F4 D9CC C422 AACA EDF1 DF42 F331 28B9 > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQBD3OKP7fHfQvMxKLkRAjeXAJ9dIDijdzEFhMV1jBuC86VOpiLMoQCfRn8U > MzWOXPMTEafnwtywJ5IOtV8= > =B+Oh > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > there are a few typos in the german translation: die Fedora-Entwickler arbeitet eng mit den Programmieren der enthaltenen Software zusammen must be: Die Fedora-Entwickler arbeiten eng mit den Programmieren der enthaltenen Software zusammen (new sentence demands Uppercase and Entwickler is plural) regards, Rudolf Kastl From linux at elfshadow.net Mon Jan 30 17:23:59 2006 From: linux at elfshadow.net (Jeffrey Tadlock) Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 12:23:59 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Description for Linuxtag Germany In-Reply-To: <1138549391.2901.29.camel@NB-Fedora.homenet.local> References: <1138549391.2901.29.camel@NB-Fedora.homenet.local> Message-ID: <43DE4BAF.2040906@elfshadow.net> Gerold Kassube wrote: > Can please anybody review these words?! We have to fullfinish our login > till next week! I cannot read German to determine the accuracy of the translation, but perhaps some of these edits will help get things started. > short description English: > > Develops together with Red Hat the Linux-Distribution Fedora Core and > the LDAP-Server Fedora Directory Server plus packages a lot of software > suitable for Fedora Core in the community project Fedora Extras. The Fedora Core Linux distribution is developed together with Red Hat along with the Fedora Directory LDAP Server and community developed packages for Fedora Extras. > Description English: > > The Fedora Project was started as a development project by Red Hat > around the Linux. Its goal is to create a complete and general-to-use > Operating-System that is based only on Open-Source-Software. The Fedora Project was started as a development project by Red Hat based on Linux. Its goal is to create a complete and easy-to-use Operating System that is based only on Open Source Software. > The most wide know part of the Project is the quite well known and often > used Linux distribution Fedora Core, that uses Open-Source Software > only. Its developers closely work together with the programmers that > create the software and often include the latest versions of these > applications in the distribution. Fedora Core publishes about two > versions a year and round about every third one is used as a base for > Red Hat Enterprise Linux. The most widely known part of the Project is the often used Linux distribution, Fedora Core, that uses Open Source Software only. Its developers work closely with the programmers that create the software and often includes the latest version of these application in the distribution. Fedora Core publishes approximately two versions a year with the third one often being used as a base for Red Hat Enterprise Linux. > Besides Fedora Core there are several related sub-projects: The > community-driven Fedora Extras for example packages additional Software > for Fedora Core in RPM-Pages that can easily be installed from the > Distribution. Fedora Legacy provides security-updates for older releases > of Fedora Core. The Project Fedora Directory Server is driven by both > the community and Red Hat to further enhance the sourcecode from the > Netscape LDAP-Server, that Red Hat bought and published as Open-Source > last year. Besides Fedora Core there are several related sub-projects: The community driven Fedora Extras packages additional Software for Fedora Core in RPM packages that can easily be installed. Fedora Legacy provides security updates for older releases of Fedora Core. The Fedora Directory Server Project is driven by both the community and Red Hat to further enhance the source code from the Netscape LDAP Server that Red Hat bought and published as Open Source last year. From tejasdinkar at gmail.com Tue Jan 31 06:28:04 2006 From: tejasdinkar at gmail.com (Tejas Dinkar) Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 11:58:04 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Funding for LinuxAsia2006 / FUDCon Delhi 2006 Message-ID: <1138688884.5080.14.camel@linuxbox> Dear *, I had earlier thought that I would not be able to attend LinuxAsia / FUDCon Delhi 2006 due to examinations. However, due to recent events, I will be able to attend LinuxAsia on the 9th and 10th of February. The event is scheduled for the 8th, 9th, and 10th of February, with FUDCon scheduled on the 9th. I will be able to fly out from Bangalore on the Afternoon of the 8th, and attend FUDCon, as well as the final day. I would like to help out at the Fedora Stall wherever possible, as well as attend the various talks at the FUDCon. I do not need funding for my stay, as I can stay with a relative in Delhi. However, I would like to request for sponsorship for the travel expenses. The flight to Delhi and back should cost roughly $200. I will be able to pay this amount now, but I would request for a reimbursement of the same amount after the event. I would be able to provide a copy of the flight tickets / receipt to a member of the Steering Committee if required. As this event if fairly close, I would request you to please reply quickly. Thank You Tejas Dinkar Fedora Ambassador : Bangalore/India IRC Nick : gja From fedora at leemhuis.info Tue Jan 31 11:04:18 2006 From: fedora at leemhuis.info (Thorsten Leemhuis) Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 12:04:18 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Description for Linuxtag Germany In-Reply-To: <43DE4BAF.2040906@elfshadow.net> References: <1138549391.2901.29.camel@NB-Fedora.homenet.local> <43DE4BAF.2040906@elfshadow.net> Message-ID: <1138705458.2800.21.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hi Jeffrey! thx for you help! Am Montag, den 30.01.2006, 12:23 -0500 schrieb Jeffrey Tadlock: > Gerold Kassube wrote: > > Can please anybody review these words?! We have to fullfinish our login > > till next week! > [...] > > short description English: > > > > Develops together with Red Hat the Linux-Distribution Fedora Core and > > the LDAP-Server Fedora Directory Server plus packages a lot of software > > suitable for Fedora Core in the community project Fedora Extras. > > The Fedora Core Linux distribution is developed together with Red Hat > along with the Fedora Directory LDAP Server and community developed > packages for Fedora Extras. Well, I really liked the other parts of you mail but don't like this one -- "Fedora Project" is the Project Name and needs a (short) explanation. Starting with "The Fedora Core Linux distribution..." is not the best way to do that IMHO... But maybe that's just my opinion here. -- Thorsten Leemhuis From gdk at redhat.com Tue Jan 31 14:56:04 2006 From: gdk at redhat.com (Greg DeKoenigsberg) Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 09:56:04 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Ambassadors meeting notes January 26, 22 UTC In-Reply-To: <1138556994.43dd00423d9a9@mail.ravensong.com> References: <7f617d270601271143q5a26c2afj89c839c561b52ec1@mail.gmail.com> <1138556994.43dd00423d9a9@mail.ravensong.com> Message-ID: Robert, Hope you're feeling better. Take whatever time you need. --g --------------------------------------------------------------- Greg DeKoenigsberg || Fedora Foundation || fedoraproject.org Be an Ambassador || http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors --------------------------------------------------------------- On Sun, 29 Jan 2006, Robert Whetsel wrote: > ALCON, > > Sorry for not making the meeting; I had surgery this week and was a bit > preoccupied. I will be back to work on Monday the 30th, and back into the swing > of things next week with my action items for Fedora. > > Quoting Alex Maier : > > > Next Meeting: Feb 02, 2006, 14:00 UTC > > > > Ambassador Meeting Notes January 26, 2006, 22:00 UTC > > > > Attending: > > GregDeKoenigsberg (gregdek) > > GeroldKassube (GeroldKa) > > Niklot (Guest) > > ChitleshGoorah > > AurelienBompard (abompard) > > DavidBarzilay (barz) > > JoseTarazona > > Xenion (Guest) > > AlexMaier (lxmaier) > > RahulSundaram (mether) > > FrancescoUgolini > > KarstenWade (quaid) > > BobJensen (MicroBob) > > MikeKnox (monkey|wrk) > > MikaelJacobsson (maikaru) > > > > > > GeroldKa has invited Niklot and Xenion to participate the meeting > > later on, because they may be interested in becoming Ambassadors > > > > Upcoming Events > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents > > > > Solutions Linux (Paris, abompard) > > abompard received stuff for Soultions Linux > > it was still in one piece, but not far from torn apart > > abompard will be able to attend 2 days out of 3 > > abompard is translating Fred's slides to french right now > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/Slides > > > > GNUify (Pune, mether) > > the original slides - about 50 or so are in: > > http://people.redhat.com/sundaram/ > > mether is cutting down and reorganising them based on a new idea > > otherwise nothing else to report on > > > > FUDCon @ LinuxAsia (New Delhi, mether) > > Planning for this is going well; schedule is almost finished; schwag > > is delivered; we're just about ready to go. > > mether is rewriting the slides and will upload it when its done to the > > common pool > > all the arrangements are mostly done by now > > > > SCALE 4x (tchung) > > tchung received 70 t-shirts and 150 DVDs. > > planning to burn 50 more DVDs himself. > > tchung will take a lot of pictures at the event to record it and > > report about it. > > tchung is not sure about a blog but there will be plenty of pictures > > and a special coverage in FWN. :) > > quaid tchung: sorry I'm not going to make it SCALE, I'm cutting back > > on travel it seems > > > > Banners: > > tchung ok. I suppose I could cook something up in local stationey store. :) > > JoseTarazona Banner for shows (I'm working on two events for > > Universities, dates still pending.) and one for a website for my > > country > > gregdek lxmaier: I'm starting to think it makes more sense to > > manufacture centrally and ship. > > lxmaier i could supervise the manufacturing in Germany and/or UK > > lxmaier and we could have [sasquatch] ship them out to other locations > > within europe > > gregdek will have an update on schwag coming up this week, which will > > include banners etc. > > > > FOSDEM (Fred) > > gregdek OK, no Fred. We'll discuss FOSDEM later > > > > barz lwce in sydney is targeting businesses and .org booths are way 2 > > expensive. we decided dropping this one, not suitable 4 FC's audience > > or budget. > > It will be removed from the wiki > > > > ChitleshGoorah has secured a booth for Fedora for the Strasbourg > > event. He posted it lately on the M.list > > ChitleshGoorah Sure if someone is interested can join me > > ChitleshGoorah If not Ill be with my gf and maybe a fedora user too > > ChitleshGoorah our lug is looking for hotels which can provide us > > cheap prices for the event :) > > JoseTarazona I'm interested, count with me > > > > monkey|wrk I might be able to attend the linuxworldexpo in Sydney > > barz they do have .org, but same prices > > LWCE Sydney will be removed from events list > > > > richard Tuttle has added OSCON to the event list, which is > > outstanding. We will need an update from him. > > > > nman64 Unfortunately, we can't provide a bunch of money for everyone > > to get to every event (we'd love to if we could), so we have to > > consider each event and decide where the money should go. The same > > budget is also used for producing merchandise. The Steering Committee > > is working on policies and procedures to get everything moving > > smoothly. If ever you have an event near you that you would like to > > try to get to, come up with a budget and let us know what you need. > > We'll do the best we can. > > Part of being an ambassador is acting as the regional contact for the > > team. We can add links to the ambassador pages from that page. If a > > local user wants us to attend or wants our support, they should > > contact their local Ambassador. > > > > maikaru ok... those events in stockholm are the expensive ones and > > those in gothenburg are the not so expensive... i know ppl there that > > i can sleep at if needed... i plan to contact the biggest > > computermagazine in sweden so swedish ppl will know about me soon ;) > > > > Fedora Libraries (Chitlesh) > > launched FedoraLibraries in the list. ambassadors need to move ASAP > > for this project. the discussion to continue on the list. > > > > FUDCon / LinuxTag at Wiesbaden. > > lxmaier and gregdek had a conversation with Florian Brand from RH > > Germany today. GeroldKa and Florian will be co-owners. > > > > Schwag pipeline. > > gregdek We've got a plan that I'll be publicising to ambassadors-list > > later today. Goal: to have the schwag pipeline up, funded and working > > by March 15th. Right now, we've got a lot of requests, but not a lot > > of resources. Yet. But "help is on the way". > > BUT: we will NOT be sending single T-shirts or anything like that. We > > will be sending KITS to ambassadors. Too expensive to drop-ship single > > Ts and hats and such. > > Kits, as of right now, will consist of: > > * Hats; > > * Pens; > > * Stickers; > > * Posters. > > However many we can fit into about $100 worth of stuff. > > > > Note: this does NOT include t-shirts. Why? > > Because T-shirts are: > > * expensive for what you get; > > * always in the wrong size; > > * bulkier to ship. > > > > Note: there WILL be a place to ORDER shirts, but they will NOT be part > > of the kits. > > nman64 In the future, we should be able to work with a service like > > CafePress or Spreadshirt to offer T-shirts and other merchandise as a > > fundraising tool, but not yet. > > > > BUSINESS CARDS > > We have four proposed designs. > > Let's pick the best one or two and move! > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/BusinessCards > > you'll need Avery stock# 8871 > > it's official policy: Use tchung's template at > > http://fedoranews.org/tchung/biz > > please read readme.txt > > > > FrancescoUgolini I have only to say that i'm working on the fedora > > installation guide in italian, i've done the beginning and the first > > chapter, and i think in a week or two i've finished to traduce. So see > > ya the next week and good night > > > > -- > > Check out the new content on Fedora Project page! http://fedoraproject.org > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > -- > Cheers, > > Robert C. Whetsel - CEO & Founder > Fedora Global Ambassador > SuSE Developer > > RavenSong Open Technologies, Inc. > DBA: The Raven Group (1992) > Open Source Architects Specializing in > Enterprise Linux Business Solutions > > Frederick Innovative Technology Center > 401 Rosemont Avenue > Frederick, MD 21701 > 240-215-3944 > www.ravensong.com > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > From rodrigopadula at projetofedora.org Tue Jan 31 14:58:22 2006 From: rodrigopadula at projetofedora.org (Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira) Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 12:58:22 -0200 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] [Fwd: fisl7.0: sua proposta de palestra (141)] Message-ID: <43DF7B0E.8000505@projetofedora.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 :-) - -------- Original Message -------- Subject: fisl7.0: sua proposta de palestra (141) Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 23:43:54 -0200 (BRST) From: temario at softwarelivre.org To: rodrigopadula at projetofedora.org (English version below) Ol? Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira, Temos o prazer de inform?-lo(a) de que a sua proposta de palestra para o fisl7.0, "PROJETO FEDORA BRASIL", foi aceita para apresenta??o no evento. ? necess?rio que voc? confirme a sua participa??o *at? o pr?ximo dia 06 de fevereiro*, atrav?s do "Canto dos palestrantes": https://fisl.softwarelivre.org/7.0/papers/speaker/ L? voc? pode tamb?m conferir as avalia??es da(s) suas propostas e coment?rios dos avaliadores, que podem contribuir para melhorar sua apresenta??o, resumo, ou apenas te dar um retorno dos avaliadores com rela??o ao seu trabalho. Os crit?rios utilizados para a avalia??o podem ser encontrados em: http://twiki.softwarelivre.org/bin/view/Fisl7/Classifica%e7%e3oDasPropostas. Os membros da comiss?o avaliadora est?o listados em: http://twiki.softwarelivre.org/bin/view/Fisl7/Comiss%e3oDeAvaliadores Adotamos uma pol?tica de evitar mais de uma palestra da mesma pessoa, de forma a dar oportunidade a mais palestrantes. Assim, se voc? submeteu mais de uma proposta, ? poss?vel que alguma delas tenha sido recusada mesmo tendo argumento de classifica??o maior que o m?nimo para aprova??o na trilha correspondente. Entraremos em contato daqui a mais alguns dias com informa??e ?teis aos palestrantes. Sauda??es, - -- Comit? de Programa 7? F?rum Internacional Software Livre 19, 20, 21 e 22 de Abril de 2006 Porto Alegre, RS, Brasil http://fisl.softwarelivre.org/7.0/ - ------------------------------------------- English version - ------------------------------------------- Hi Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira, We're pleased to inform you that your lecture proposal for fisl7.0, with title "PROJETO FEDORA BRASIL", was accepted for presentation in the event. It's necessary that you confirm your attendance *until next February 6th*, through the "Speakers' corner": https://fisl.softwarelivre.org/7.0/papers/speaker/ There you can also check your proposals' reviews and comments from reviewers, which can help you to improve the presentation, abstract, or just give you a feedback from reviewers about your work. The criteria used for the review can be found at: http://twiki.softwarelivre.org/bin/view/Fisl7/Classifica%e7%e3oDasPropostas. (sorry, for now it's Portuguese only, so if you have any doubt please get in touch). Members of the reviews comission are listed at: http://twiki.softwarelivre.org/bin/view/Fisl7/Comiss%e3oDeAvaliadores We've adopted a policy of avoiding more than a lecture per person, trying to give opportunity to more people. This way, if you have submitted more than one lecture proposal, it's possible that one or more of them have been rejected even with a classification argument greater than the minimum needed to be accpted in its corresponding track. We'll get in touch in a few days with useful information for speakers. Best wishes, - -- Program Comitee 7th Internacional Free Software Forum 19th to 22nd, April 2006 Porto Alegre, RS, Brasil http://fisl.softwarelivre.org/7.0/ - -- +================================================+ RODRIGO PADULA DE OLIVEIRA (o- BACHAREL EM SISTEMAS DE INFORMA??O //\ FACULDADE METODISTA GRANBERY - FMG V_/_ PostgreSQL - PHP - Java - Fedora +================================================+ Embaixador do Fedora no Brasil http://www.projetofedora.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFD33sOPg3HAC1vlg4RAkUgAKCooFWPKQPUh3LmWOovWbCjRrHnIQCaA/BN qZ1CJap+hz/IpAisZGlkkqI= =3tYh -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From gdk at redhat.com Tue Jan 31 15:24:41 2006 From: gdk at redhat.com (Greg DeKoenigsberg) Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 10:24:41 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Funding for LinuxAsia2006 / FUDCon Delhi 2006 In-Reply-To: <1138688884.5080.14.camel@linuxbox> References: <1138688884.5080.14.camel@linuxbox> Message-ID: Sweet! --g --------------------------------------------------------------- Greg DeKoenigsberg || Fedora Foundation || fedoraproject.org Be an Ambassador || http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors --------------------------------------------------------------- On Tue, 31 Jan 2006, Tejas Dinkar wrote: > Dear *, > > I had earlier thought that I would not be able to attend LinuxAsia / > FUDCon Delhi 2006 due to examinations. However, due to recent events, I > will be able to attend LinuxAsia on the 9th and 10th of February. > > The event is scheduled for the 8th, 9th, and 10th of February, with > FUDCon scheduled on the 9th. I will be able to fly out from Bangalore on > the Afternoon of the 8th, and attend FUDCon, as well as the final day. > > I would like to help out at the Fedora Stall wherever possible, as well > as attend the various talks at the FUDCon. > > I do not need funding for my stay, as I can stay with a relative in > Delhi. However, I would like to request for sponsorship for the travel > expenses. > > The flight to Delhi and back should cost roughly $200. I will be able to > pay this amount now, but I would request for a reimbursement of the same > amount after the event. I would be able to provide a copy of the flight > tickets / receipt to a member of the Steering Committee if required. > > As this event if fairly close, I would request you to please reply > quickly. > > Thank You > Tejas Dinkar > > Fedora Ambassador : Bangalore/India > IRC Nick : gja > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > From gdk at redhat.com Tue Jan 31 20:25:23 2006 From: gdk at redhat.com (Greg DeKoenigsberg) Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 15:25:23 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Schwag plan currently Message-ID: As of right now, here's the simplified plan: We're working to get ambassador kits produced in 3 geos: North America, Europe, and Asia. The kits will contain: * A few shirts. Probably four shirts -- 1 M, 2 L, 1 XL. * A few caps. * Pens and stickers. No poster, because we didn't have time to design a good one. In the first go-round, all of the graphics will be *very* simple -- probably just the logo and/or wordmark. Why? Because we don't have much time, and coordinating translation and the like will take too long for this go-round. We're still on track to be able to take kit requests by March 15th. Note: this is INDEPENDENT of the DVD production plan, which we're still working on. --g --------------------------------------------------------------- Greg DeKoenigsberg || Fedora Foundation || fedoraproject.org Be an Ambassador || http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors --------------------------------------------------------------- From michael at knox.net.nz Tue Jan 31 20:35:35 2006 From: michael at knox.net.nz (Michael J Knox) Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2006 09:35:35 +1300 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] suggestions for an ambassador newbie. Message-ID: <1138739758.24979.6.camel@nemausa.et.endace.com> Hi everyone. I have been kind of idle, reading all the emails and taking in what others are doing/suggesting. I would like to ask for some advice. I live in New Zealand, in a town called Hamilton (or the Waikato). In general, New Zealand has very few trade shows or events that one would normally have a stall at etc. I do have a local LUG which I am a member of, however, I doubt they would appreciate a Fedora talk every month (considering the huge number of debian dev's that reside in the LUG). So, my question is, what can someone, in a small area, with little IT related shows/events etc do as an ambassador? At the moment, I try to post to the LUG's mailing list when Fedora related news is made, things like Fedora reloaded podcasts etc etc. I am all ears and keen for suggestions. Thanks! Michael From tchung at fedoraproject.org Tue Jan 31 20:42:55 2006 From: tchung at fedoraproject.org (Thomas Chung) Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 12:42:55 -0800 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] suggestions for an ambassador newbie. In-Reply-To: <1138739758.24979.6.camel@nemausa.et.endace.com> References: <1138739758.24979.6.camel@nemausa.et.endace.com> Message-ID: <20060131204209.M35552@fedoraproject.org> On Wed, 01 Feb 2006 09:35:35 +1300, Michael J Knox wrote > So, my question is, what can someone, in a small area, with little IT > related shows/events etc do as an ambassador? > > At the moment, I try to post to the LUG's mailing list when Fedora > related news is made, things like Fedora reloaded podcasts etc etc. > > I am all ears and keen for suggestions. > > Thanks! > > Michael Hi Michael, Have you checked out Meetup Groups in your area? http://www.meetup.com/cities/nz/hamilton/ Regards, -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung From lxmaier at gmail.com Tue Jan 31 20:43:54 2006 From: lxmaier at gmail.com (Alex Maier) Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 15:43:54 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Schwag plan currently In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7f617d270601311243n3ed88363i1f74d02f2835c335@mail.gmail.com> What about Brazil? We have the largest team of Ambassadors there and should make sure we give them access to schwag as well. a On 1/31/06, Greg DeKoenigsberg wrote: > > As of right now, here's the simplified plan: > > We're working to get ambassador kits produced in 3 geos: North America, > Europe, and Asia. The kits will contain: > > * A few shirts. Probably four shirts -- 1 M, 2 L, 1 XL. > * A few caps. > * Pens and stickers. > > No poster, because we didn't have time to design a good one. In the first > go-round, all of the graphics will be *very* simple -- probably just the > logo and/or wordmark. Why? Because we don't have much time, and > coordinating translation and the like will take too long for this > go-round. > > We're still on track to be able to take kit requests by March 15th. > > Note: this is INDEPENDENT of the DVD production plan, which we're still > working on. > > --g > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > Greg DeKoenigsberg || Fedora Foundation || fedoraproject.org > Be an Ambassador || http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- Check out the new content on Fedora Project page! http://fedoraproject.org From gerold at lugd.org Tue Jan 31 20:45:30 2006 From: gerold at lugd.org (Gerold Kassube) Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 21:45:30 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Schwag plan currently In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1138740330.2927.12.camel@NB-Fedora.homenet.local> greg, great idea; no doubt! Please let me ask one question: Who "designs" the schwag? SC? Regards Gerold -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From gdk at redhat.com Tue Jan 31 20:46:03 2006 From: gdk at redhat.com (Greg DeKoenigsberg) Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 15:46:03 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] suggestions for an ambassador newbie. In-Reply-To: <1138739758.24979.6.camel@nemausa.et.endace.com> References: <1138739758.24979.6.camel@nemausa.et.endace.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 1 Feb 2006, Michael J Knox wrote: > I do have a local LUG which I am a member of, however, I doubt they > would appreciate a Fedora talk every month (considering the huge number > of debian dev's that reside in the LUG). So how about a Fedora talk every six months -- like, say, when there's a new release of Fedora Core? > So, my question is, what can someone, in a small area, with little IT > related shows/events etc do as an ambassador? > > At the moment, I try to post to the LUG's mailing list when Fedora > related news is made, things like Fedora reloaded podcasts etc etc. > > I am all ears and keen for suggestions. How about people who haven't tried Linux at all? Do you or your LUG go out into the community and try to convince people who haven't tried Linux yet? --g --------------------------------------------------------------- Greg DeKoenigsberg || Fedora Foundation || fedoraproject.org Be an Ambassador || http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors --------------------------------------------------------------- From gdk at redhat.com Tue Jan 31 20:46:52 2006 From: gdk at redhat.com (Greg DeKoenigsberg) Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 15:46:52 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Schwag plan currently In-Reply-To: <7f617d270601311243n3ed88363i1f74d02f2835c335@mail.gmail.com> References: <7f617d270601311243n3ed88363i1f74d02f2835c335@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Brazil will be fulfilled thru the North America store. We'll service them -- it's just that the cost will be higher. And customs, of course. We'll have to figure out customs. --g --------------------------------------------------------------- Greg DeKoenigsberg || Fedora Foundation || fedoraproject.org Be an Ambassador || http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors --------------------------------------------------------------- On Tue, 31 Jan 2006, Alex Maier wrote: > What about Brazil? We have the largest team of Ambassadors there and > should make sure we give them access to schwag as well. > a > > On 1/31/06, Greg DeKoenigsberg wrote: > > > > As of right now, here's the simplified plan: > > > > We're working to get ambassador kits produced in 3 geos: North America, > > Europe, and Asia. The kits will contain: > > > > * A few shirts. Probably four shirts -- 1 M, 2 L, 1 XL. > > * A few caps. > > * Pens and stickers. > > > > No poster, because we didn't have time to design a good one. In the first > > go-round, all of the graphics will be *very* simple -- probably just the > > logo and/or wordmark. Why? Because we don't have much time, and > > coordinating translation and the like will take too long for this > > go-round. > > > > We're still on track to be able to take kit requests by March 15th. > > > > Note: this is INDEPENDENT of the DVD production plan, which we're still > > working on. > > > > --g > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > Greg DeKoenigsberg || Fedora Foundation || fedoraproject.org > > Be an Ambassador || http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > -- > Check out the new content on Fedora Project page! http://fedoraproject.org > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > From michael at knox.net.nz Tue Jan 31 20:47:23 2006 From: michael at knox.net.nz (Michael J Knox) Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2006 09:47:23 +1300 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] suggestions for an ambassador newbie. In-Reply-To: <20060131204209.M35552@fedoraproject.org> References: <1138739758.24979.6.camel@nemausa.et.endace.com> <20060131204209.M35552@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <1138740467.4145.1.camel@nemausa.et.endace.com> On Tue, 2006-01-31 at 12:42 -0800, Thomas Chung wrote: > On Wed, 01 Feb 2006 09:35:35 +1300, Michael J Knox wrote > > So, my question is, what can someone, in a small area, with little IT > > related shows/events etc do as an ambassador? > > > > At the moment, I try to post to the LUG's mailing list when Fedora > > related news is made, things like Fedora reloaded podcasts etc etc. > > > > I am all ears and keen for suggestions. > > > > Thanks! > > > > Michael > > Hi Michael, > > Have you checked out Meetup Groups in your area? > > http://www.meetup.com/cities/nz/hamilton/ > Thanks Thomas! I was not aware of this site. Sadly, those meetings are in Auckland, which is a bit of a drive, like an hour and a half. I have bookmarked the site and will keep an eye on it. Thanks again! Michael From michael at knox.net.nz Tue Jan 31 20:49:15 2006 From: michael at knox.net.nz (Michael J Knox) Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2006 09:49:15 +1300 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] suggestions for an ambassador newbie. In-Reply-To: References: <1138739758.24979.6.camel@nemausa.et.endace.com> Message-ID: <1138740579.4145.4.camel@nemausa.et.endace.com> On Tue, 2006-01-31 at 15:46 -0500, Greg DeKoenigsberg wrote: > On Wed, 1 Feb 2006, Michael J Knox wrote: > > > I do have a local LUG which I am a member of, however, I doubt they > > would appreciate a Fedora talk every month (considering the huge number > > of debian dev's that reside in the LUG). > > So how about a Fedora talk every six months -- like, say, when there's a > new release of Fedora Core? > Yes, that was what I was hoping to do. Starting with FC5's release > > So, my question is, what can someone, in a small area, with little IT > > related shows/events etc do as an ambassador? > > > > At the moment, I try to post to the LUG's mailing list when Fedora > > related news is made, things like Fedora reloaded podcasts etc etc. > > > > I am all ears and keen for suggestions. > > How about people who haven't tried Linux at all? Do you or your LUG go > out into the community and try to convince people who haven't tried Linux > yet? They have the odd installfest, but no, they don't do anything else to entice new users to Linux. Perhaps that something I will bring up with them Thanks Michael From Frederic.Hornain at GB.BE Tue Jan 31 20:49:49 2006 From: Frederic.Hornain at GB.BE (Hornain Frederic) Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 21:49:49 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Schwag plan currently Message-ID: Dear Greg?K, dear * You wrote the following : > No poster, because we didn't have time to design a good one. In the first > go-round, all of the graphics will be *very* simple -- probably just the > logo and/or wordmark. Why? Because we don't have much time, and > coordinating translation and the like will take too long for this > go-round. Well, as I have to be prepared for the FOSDEM I have done some hoarding - see http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Hoarding - Ok, these ones are quites basic. Nonetheless, I will do few ones more developped. BTW, if you have suggestions or remarks feel free to contact me. Best Regards Fred From gdk at redhat.com Tue Jan 31 21:00:39 2006 From: gdk at redhat.com (Greg DeKoenigsberg) Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 16:00:39 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Schwag plan currently In-Reply-To: <1138740330.2927.12.camel@NB-Fedora.homenet.local> References: <1138740330.2927.12.camel@NB-Fedora.homenet.local> Message-ID: The "design" will be by the folks who designed the logo. But we're really talking about very, *very* simple design. As in, the logo on this, the logo on that, the logo on the other thing. --g --------------------------------------------------------------- Greg DeKoenigsberg || Fedora Foundation || fedoraproject.org Be an Ambassador || http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors --------------------------------------------------------------- On Tue, 31 Jan 2006, Gerold Kassube wrote: > greg, > > great idea; no doubt! > > Please let me ask one question: Who "designs" the schwag? SC? > > Regards > > Gerold >