From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Thu Jun 1 06:38:22 2006 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 12:08:22 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Weekly Reminder for Fedora Ambassadors In-Reply-To: <369bce3b0605311137q7c7a1393tf00264f578c28d44@mail.gmail.com> References: <369bce3b0605311137q7c7a1393tf00264f578c28d44@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1149143902.4310.872.camel@sundaram.pnq.redhat.com> On Wed, 2006-05-31 at 11:37 -0700, Thomas Chung wrote: > RE: Weekly Reminder for Fedora Ambassadors > > Due to Red Hat Summit 2006 (May 30 - June 2), most of our Red Hat > people and Fedora Contributors will be on travel and we will not have > Ambassadors meeting tomorrow. > > Therefore, our next Ambassadors Meeting will be held on 2006-06-08 14:00 UTC > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings > > Also as a reminder everyone in Fedora Ambassadors Program should sign CLA and > join 'ambassadors' group in your Fedora Account System. > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/AccountSystemHowTo > > As of today, we have 124 members in fedora-ambassadors-list but > only 80 completed CLA and joined Ambassadors group officially. Has sending this reminders been effective so far? I suspect some of them dont speak English. Alteast I havent seen any correspondence at all from them in the mailing lists or participation on IRC meetings. If its been effective, then well and good. Otherwise individual reminders might work better. If they dont speak English (which I hope isnt the case), we need to bridge that. Rahul From marketing-list at fedoralinks.org Thu Jun 1 06:49:47 2006 From: marketing-list at fedoralinks.org (Robert 'Bob' Jensen) Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 01:49:47 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Weekly Reminder for Fedora Ambassadors In-Reply-To: <1149143902.4310.872.camel@sundaram.pnq.redhat.com> References: <369bce3b0605311137q7c7a1393tf00264f578c28d44@mail.gmail.com> <1149143902.4310.872.camel@sundaram.pnq.redhat.com> Message-ID: <447E8E0B.7070201@fedoralinks.org> Rahul Sundaram wrote: > > Has sending this reminders been effective so far? I suspect some of them > dont speak English. Alteast I havent seen any correspondence at all from > them in the mailing lists or participation on IRC meetings. > > If its been effective, then well and good. Otherwise individual > reminders might work better. If they dont speak English (which I hope > isnt the case), we need to bridge that. > > > Rahul > I am hoping to start trying to make some 1 on 1 contacts starting next week with those who have not yet completed the required steps. I am also looking to find out some things that ambassadors are looking for from the project. I would really like to try and get some ideas flowing with in marketing as a whole if I can. -- Robert 'Bob' Jensen * * http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BobJensen gpg fingerprint: F9F4 7243 4243 0043 2C45 97AF E8A4 C3AE 42EB 0BC6 Fedora Marketing Projects * * Fedora Ambassadors Steering Committee -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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If they dont speak English (which I hope > isnt the case), we need to bridge that. > > > Rahul > I am hoping to start trying to make some 1 on 1 contacts starting next week with those who have not yet completed the required steps. I am also looking to find out some things that ambassadors are looking for from the project. I would really like to try and get some ideas flowing with in marketing as a whole if I can. -- Robert 'Bob' Jensen * * http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BobJensen gpg fingerprint: F9F4 7243 4243 0043 2C45 97AF E8A4 C3AE 42EB 0BC6 Fedora Marketing Projects * * Fedora Ambassadors Steering Committee -- Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list --------------------------------- Abra sua conta no Yahoo! Mail - 1GB de espa?o, alertas de e-mail no celular e anti-spam realmente eficaz. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Thu Jun 1 15:16:40 2006 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 20:46:40 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Weekly Reminder for Fedora Ambassadors In-Reply-To: <20060601124212.10403.qmail@web39214.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20060601124212.10403.qmail@web39214.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1149175000.4310.897.camel@sundaram.pnq.redhat.com> On Thu, 2006-06-01 at 12:42 +0000, Rodrigo Menezes wrote: > What's the procedure if you find Ambassadors that doesn't speak > English? > > Rodrigo Menezes If we have other ambassadors that speak their native tongue, we have previously teamed them up on occasions and asked the person who speaks English to act as a bridge. Realistically though, you need to be able to converse in English if you need to be active on these projects. Rahul From rodrigomenezes12 at yahoo.com.br Thu Jun 1 16:23:20 2006 From: rodrigomenezes12 at yahoo.com.br (Rodrigo Menezes) Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 16:23:20 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Weekly Reminder for Fedora Ambassadors In-Reply-To: <1149175000.4310.897.camel@sundaram.pnq.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20060601162320.83535.qmail@web39209.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I get you point. I asked this because I know a lot of users in Brazil that work today to promote Fedora here, wanna join Ambassadors Group but they don't speak English. Sometimes this is a limitation, but this fact is really importante in my point of view. If you wanna join an Project in English, with all instructions and discussions in English, at least you need to read/write English. Cheers, Rodrigo Menezes Rahul Sundaram escreveu: On Thu, 2006-06-01 at 12:42 +0000, Rodrigo Menezes wrote: > What's the procedure if you find Ambassadors that doesn't speak > English? > > Rodrigo Menezes If we have other ambassadors that speak their native tongue, we have previously teamed them up on occasions and asked the person who speaks English to act as a bridge. Realistically though, you need to be able to converse in English if you need to be active on these projects. Rahul -- Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list --------------------------------- Abra sua conta no Yahoo! Mail - 1GB de espa?o, alertas de e-mail no celular e anti-spam realmente eficaz. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Thu Jun 1 16:29:13 2006 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 21:59:13 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Weekly Reminder for Fedora Ambassadors In-Reply-To: <20060601162320.83535.qmail@web39209.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20060601162320.83535.qmail@web39209.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1149179353.4310.907.camel@sundaram.pnq.redhat.com> On Thu, 2006-06-01 at 16:23 +0000, Rodrigo Menezes wrote: > I get you point. > > I asked this because I know a lot of users in Brazil that work today > to promote Fedora here, wanna join Ambassadors Group but they don't > speak English. If you can act as a contact point and they are active in the community, then it might not be a big limitation. If we have a strong Brazilian community that can do things independently while keeping track of the information flowing through the project thats a good thing. > > Sometimes this is a limitation, but this fact is really importante in > my point of view. > > If you wanna join an Project in English, with all instructions and > discussions in English, at least you need to read/write English. Right. I would want the people involved to take part in the discussions and lead efforts. Communities wouldnt thrive with one way communication. Rahul From thomas.canniot at laposte.net Thu Jun 1 17:38:34 2006 From: thomas.canniot at laposte.net (Thomas Canniot) Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 19:38:34 +0200 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Weekly Reminder for Fedora Ambassadors In-Reply-To: <1149179353.4310.907.camel@sundaram.pnq.redhat.com> References: <20060601162320.83535.qmail@web39209.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <1149179353.4310.907.camel@sundaram.pnq.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1149183514.2858.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> Le jeudi 01 juin 2006 ? 21:59 +0530, Rahul Sundaram a ?crit : > On Thu, 2006-06-01 at 16:23 +0000, Rodrigo Menezes wrote: > > I get you point. > > > > I asked this because I know a lot of users in Brazil that work today > > to promote Fedora here, wanna join Ambassadors Group but they don't > > speak English. > > If you can act as a contact point and they are active in the community, > then it might not be a big limitation. If we have a strong Brazilian > community that can do things independently while keeping track of the > information flowing through the project thats a good thing. > > > > Sometimes this is a limitation, but this fact is really importante in > > my point of view. > > > > If you wanna join an Project in English, with all instructions and > > discussions in English, at least you need to read/write English. > > Right. I would want the people involved to take part in the discussions > and lead efforts. Communities wouldnt thrive with one way > communication. > > Rahul > We have the same problem in France. Many people are using Fedora and are promoting the distribution but don't speak English at all. We tried several things not to put these people apart, as the first FUDCon on IRC in French only. We opened up a section in our forum for bug reporting (an ambassador or someone speaking English would translate and report the bug to bugzilla) or RFE. I'm also trying to blog in French only, because the Fedora Project is a worldwide community. You can also translate the FWN in your own language. I think theses are little improvements we can continue to find and work on. For example, promoting the FC6 test releases, trhough the bugzilla and helping reporting bugs again and again. Thomas Canniot From aks at fedoraproject.org Fri Jun 2 05:26:57 2006 From: aks at fedoraproject.org (Abhishek Singh) Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 11:11:57 +0545 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] About Fedora Core 5 Advertisement Message-ID: <73396bd30606012226r1c46517esf78dd6ff365ef786@mail.gmail.com> Dear all, As usual, we're publishing this issue of "KUCC Express", a yearly magazine published by Kathmandu University Computer Club (KUCC). I have reserved a place in the magazine for the advertisement of Fedora Core 5. The size of the advertisement is half the A4 size paper. Could someone help me with designing a pretty advertisement for FC5? 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I'm helping at lots of different open source projects (Hylafax, Openwebmail and others). http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DimitriosMichelinakis -- Dimitrios Michelinakis From dimitris at glezos.com Mon Jun 5 21:20:17 2006 From: dimitris at glezos.com (Dimitris Glezos) Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2006 22:20:17 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Self-introduction: Dimitris Glezos Message-ID: <4484A011.5070009@glezos.com> Hi all. Posting a self-introduction message for anyone who would like to reference or read it. 1. Full name - Dimitris G. Glezos (aka Jim) 2. City, Country - Patras/Athens (Greece), Limassol (Cyprus) 3. Student status - PhD student * Research interests: Semantic web, Interoperability, Information integration & accessibility, Knowledge representation. 4. School - University of Manchester, UK (previously Comp Eng/ing @ CEID, Patras, Greece) 5. Your goals in the Fedora Project * What do you want to write about? - First of all, make Fedora have 100% greek support (that includes fonts that work, translations and docs). - Contribute to the docs project and marketing. - Goal: Increase the Fedora usage percentage in Greece and Cyprus. * What other documentation do you want to see published? - More user-friendly tutorials. - More complete and detailed roadmap, ideas etc, to enhance the community spirit. 6. Historical qualifications * What other projects or writing have you worked on in the past? Projects: - Software patents: Worked for two years as greek coordinator for the anti-software patents fight. Wrote a dozen press releases, lobbyied several times in the EU parliament and worked a lot with politicians & the media; contacted and referenced me many times. - Initiated & maintained the greek PHP manual translation for 2 years (Docbook). - LUGs: Coordinator of Cyprus LUG for some years. Writing: - I write a lot in my weblog, which could be characterized as "popular" in the greek tech world. - Got referenced by some greek computer magazines for "Aloha 2.6" article about 2.6 kernel arrival. * What level and type of computer skills do you have? - Much experience with portal development, PHP/XML/XSLT, database designing, scripting, Latex. - Portal/website usability & accessibility consultant. * What other skills do you have that might be applicable? - Good intuition/knowledge for usable UI design. - Lots, LOTS of ideas coming and going for almost everything around me (warning: this sometimes gets people frustrated...) - Amateur photographer and designer (websites, logos etc). * Why should we trust you? - Long-time FOSS and SwPat activist in Cyprus and Greece. - Coordinator and participant in many greek FOSS projects. - Always used real name for all e-life activities. 7. GPG KEYID and fingerprint pub 1024D/A5A04C3B 2002-09-23 Key fingerprint = ED86 AFE1 512D C8A6 241D 0975 8080 8A81 A5A0 4C3B uid Dimitris Glezos sub 3072g/B0CF5ACE 2002-09-23 -- Dimitris Glezos Jabber ID: glezos at jabber.org, GPG: 0xA5A04C3B http://dimitris.glezos.com/ "He who gives up functionality for ease of use loses both and deserves neither." (Anonymous) -- From tchung at fedoraproject.org Mon Jun 5 21:26:11 2006 From: tchung at fedoraproject.org (Thomas Chung) Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2006 14:26:11 -0700 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Self-introduction: Dimitris Glezos In-Reply-To: <4484A011.5070009@glezos.com> References: <4484A011.5070009@glezos.com> Message-ID: <369bce3b0606051426n5f8cb6c6k52a519e8d92f0ac1@mail.gmail.com> On 6/5/06, Dimitris Glezos wrote: > > Hi all. Posting a self-introduction message for anyone who would like to > reference or read it. >.. Once again, Welcome to Fedora Ambassadors Program! Regards, -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung From mcgiwer at fedoraproject.org Mon Jun 5 21:52:20 2006 From: mcgiwer at fedoraproject.org (Pawel Sadowski) Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2006 23:52:20 +0200 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Self-introduction: Dimitris Glezos In-Reply-To: <369bce3b0606051426n5f8cb6c6k52a519e8d92f0ac1@mail.gmail.com> References: <4484A011.5070009@glezos.com> <369bce3b0606051426n5f8cb6c6k52a519e8d92f0ac1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1149544340.3836.22.camel@redhat> On 05-06-2006, mon at 14:26 -0700, Thomas Chung wrote: > On 6/5/06, Dimitris Glezos wrote: > > > > Hi all. Posting a self-introduction message for anyone who would like to > > reference or read it. > >.. > > Once again, Welcome to Fedora Ambassadors Program! > Regards, Yeah, welcome! ;) Cheers, Pawel Sadowski From tchung at fedoraproject.org Tue Jun 6 05:52:17 2006 From: tchung at fedoraproject.org (Thomas Chung) Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2006 22:52:17 -0700 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] FAMSCO Meeting Minutes 2006-06-05 Message-ID: <369bce3b0606052252v35545ea9g7f26366ebc132797@mail.gmail.com> FAMSCO Meeting Minutes 2006-06-05 has been posted at: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/SteeringCommittee/Meetings/2006-06-05 Next FAMSCO meeting will be held on 2006-06-12 23:00 UTC http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/SteeringCommittee/Meetings Regards, -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung From puneet_batura at users.sourceforge.net Tue Jun 6 07:31:34 2006 From: puneet_batura at users.sourceforge.net (puneet batura) Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2006 13:01:34 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Self-introduction: Dimitris Glezos In-Reply-To: <4484A011.5070009@glezos.com> References: <4484A011.5070009@glezos.com> Message-ID: Welcome to the community :) On 6/6/06, Dimitris Glezos wrote: > > > Hi all. Posting a self-introduction message for anyone who would like to > reference or read it. > > > 1. Full name - Dimitris G. Glezos (aka Jim) > > 2. City, Country - Patras/Athens (Greece), Limassol (Cyprus) > > 3. Student status - PhD student > > * Research interests: Semantic web, Interoperability, Information > integration & accessibility, Knowledge representation. > > 4. School - University of Manchester, UK (previously > Comp Eng/ing @ CEID, Patras, Greece) > > 5. Your goals in the Fedora Project > > * What do you want to write about? > > - First of all, make Fedora have 100% greek support (that includes > fonts that work, translations and docs). > - Contribute to the docs project and marketing. > - Goal: Increase the Fedora usage percentage in Greece and Cyprus. > > * What other documentation do you want to see published? > > - More user-friendly tutorials. > - More complete and detailed roadmap, ideas etc, to enhance the > community spirit. > > 6. Historical qualifications > > * What other projects or writing have you worked on in the past? > > Projects: > - Software patents: Worked for two years as greek coordinator for > the anti-software patents fight. Wrote a dozen press releases, > lobbyied several times in the EU parliament and worked a lot with > politicians & the media; contacted and referenced me many times. > - Initiated & maintained the greek PHP manual translation > for 2 years (Docbook). > - LUGs: Coordinator of Cyprus LUG for some years. > > Writing: > - I write a lot in my weblog, which could be characterized as > "popular" in the greek tech world. > - Got referenced by some greek computer magazines for "Aloha 2.6" > article about 2.6 kernel arrival. > > * What level and type of computer skills do you have? > > - Much experience with portal development, PHP/XML/XSLT, database > designing, scripting, Latex. > - Portal/website usability & accessibility consultant. > > * What other skills do you have that might be applicable? > > - Good intuition/knowledge for usable UI design. > - Lots, LOTS of ideas coming and going for almost everything around > me (warning: this sometimes gets people frustrated...) > - Amateur photographer and designer (websites, logos etc). > > * Why should we trust you? > > - Long-time FOSS and SwPat activist in Cyprus and Greece. > - Coordinator and participant in many greek FOSS projects. > - Always used real name for all e-life activities. > > 7. GPG KEYID and fingerprint > > pub 1024D/A5A04C3B 2002-09-23 > Key fingerprint = ED86 AFE1 512D C8A6 241D 0975 8080 8A81 A5A0 4C3B > uid Dimitris Glezos > sub 3072g/B0CF5ACE 2002-09-23 > > > > > -- > Dimitris Glezos > Jabber ID: glezos at jabber.org, GPG: 0xA5A04C3B > http://dimitris.glezos.com/ > > > "He who gives up functionality for ease of use > loses both and deserves neither." (Anonymous) > -- > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- Regards, Puneet Batura Open Source Developer -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Regards, -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung From tchung at fedoraproject.org Thu Jun 8 20:25:55 2006 From: tchung at fedoraproject.org (Thomas Chung) Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2006 13:25:55 -0700 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Fedora Ambassadors Meeting Minutes 2006-06-08 Message-ID: <369bce3b0606081325t7798bf0bx9d067a26d11591ac@mail.gmail.com> All, Fedora Ambassadors Meeting Minutes 2006-06-08 has been posted. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/2006-06-08 As a reminder, if you have an up-coming event for yourself, please attend our regular meeting to report or send out an email report to fedora-ambassadors-list. Our next meeting will be held on 2006-06-15 22:00 UTC http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/ Regards, -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung From thomas.canniot at laposte.net Thu Jun 8 21:30:18 2006 From: thomas.canniot at laposte.net (Thomas Canniot) Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2006 23:30:18 +0200 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Fedora Ambassadors Meeting Minutes 2006-06-08 In-Reply-To: <369bce3b0606081325t7798bf0bx9d067a26d11591ac@mail.gmail.com> References: <369bce3b0606081325t7798bf0bx9d067a26d11591ac@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1149802219.4527.5.camel@MrTomLinux.workstation> Le jeudi 08 juin 2006 ? 13:25 -0700, Thomas Chung a ?crit : > All, > > Fedora Ambassadors Meeting Minutes 2006-06-08 has been posted. > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/2006-06-08 > > As a reminder, if you have an up-coming event for yourself, please > attend our regular meeting to report or send out an email report to > fedora-ambassadors-list. > > Our next meeting will be held on 2006-06-15 22:00 UTC > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/ > > Regards, I'm really sorry to have been unable to attend the meeting this week again. :s I've got a course schedule at 13h30 UTC which lasts 1h30 for at least 3 weeks again. 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I take an active part in french users community ( fedora-france.org ), in particular in the graphic developpement of this website. I'm ready to give my time to help the Fedora 's promotion and spreading. I'm able to help, to give advice to new users in order to make first step easier for then. I hope to measure up to help you the must possible in the achievement of this objective. -- Thierry -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Welcome to the team, TitaX! :) Cheers, Pawel Sadowski From tchung at fedoraproject.org Sat Jun 10 12:00:27 2006 From: tchung at fedoraproject.org (Thomas Chung) Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 05:00:27 -0700 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] new ambassador In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <369bce3b0606100500j6e02d605g92d2749b1563bf14@mail.gmail.com> On 6/10/06, TitaX wrote: > Hi, > > I introduce myself : i'm Thierry Del-Monte, a french user of Linux Fedora > Core, i use this operating system for 4 years either at home nor in my job > of network administrator for hosting company who use open source software > everyday. > > I'm administrator of titaxium.org who is a free community of design and > developpement on the web. > I'm leader of rezium.net project for provide an free irc chat . > > I take an active part in french users community ( fedora-france.org ), in > particular in the graphic developpement of this website. > > I'm ready to give my time to help the Fedora 's promotion and spreading. > I'm able to help, to give advice to new users in order to make first step > easier for then. > > I hope to measure up to help you the must possible in the achievement of > this objective. > > > -- > Thierry Welcome to Fedora Ambassadors Program! Please check out Meeting Minutes and attend our next meeting. Regards, -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung From thomas.canniot at laposte.net Sat Jun 10 13:04:38 2006 From: thomas.canniot at laposte.net (Thomas Canniot) Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 15:04:38 +0200 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] new ambassador In-Reply-To: <369bce3b0606100500j6e02d605g92d2749b1563bf14@mail.gmail.com> References: <369bce3b0606100500j6e02d605g92d2749b1563bf14@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1149944678.2811.11.camel@MrTomLinux.workstation> Le samedi 10 juin 2006 ? 05:00 -0700, Thomas Chung a ?crit : > On 6/10/06, TitaX wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I introduce myself : i'm Thierry Del-Monte, a french user of Linux Fedora > > Core, i use this operating system for 4 years either at home nor in my job > > of network administrator for hosting company who use open source software > > everyday. > > > > I'm administrator of titaxium.org who is a free community of design and > > developpement on the web. > > I'm leader of rezium.net project for provide an free irc chat . > > > > I take an active part in french users community ( fedora-france.org ), in > > particular in the graphic developpement of this website. > > > > I'm ready to give my time to help the Fedora 's promotion and spreading. > > I'm able to help, to give advice to new users in order to make first step > > easier for then. > > > > I hope to measure up to help you the must possible in the achievement of > > this objective. > > > > > > -- > > Thierry > > Welcome to Fedora Ambassadors Program! > Please check out Meeting Minutes and attend our next meeting. > Regards, Welcome Titax ! :p Seems that we already know each other ;) -- Thomas Canniot http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasCanniot -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Then we waited. And we finally got them! Great news! Thanks everybody, I personaly find the t-shirts and the caps look great! I wanted to order a shirt, and found *by surprise* that shipping costs were 3.5 more expensive than the t-shirts itself (53$ shipping for a 15$ t-shirt)! Many people are complaining, because we feel it as unfair, and because other shops can make more than better shipping costs! Where is the problem? Is there something wrong? Regards, -- Thomas Canniot http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasCanniot -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Ceci est une partie de message num?riquement sign?e URL: From tchung at fedoraproject.org Wed Jun 14 21:20:30 2006 From: tchung at fedoraproject.org (Thomas Chung) Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 14:20:30 -0700 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Fedora Stuff at Red Hat Cool Stuff Store In-Reply-To: <1150318851.2845.34.camel@MrTomLinux.workstation> References: <1150318851.2845.34.camel@MrTomLinux.workstation> Message-ID: <369bce3b0606141420h7167b83dx46c65b802bff8fb0@mail.gmail.com> On 6/14/06, Thomas Canniot wrote: >... > And we finally got them! Great news! Thanks everybody, I personaly find > the t-shirts and the caps look great! I wanted to order a shirt, and > found *by surprise* that shipping costs were 3.5 more expensive than the > t-shirts itself (53$ shipping for a 15$ t-shirt)! > > Many people are complaining, because we feel it as unfair, and because > other shops can make more than better shipping costs! > > Where is the problem? Is there something wrong? Unfortunately, Fedora Stuff isn't available from European Store [1] yet. That's why the cost of shipping from US Store [2] to European countries including France could be very expensive. Regards, [1] https://www.europe.redhat.com/shop/en/coolstuff.php3 [2] http://redhat.brandfuelstores.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=37 -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung From jtorresh at gmail.com Wed Jun 14 21:22:28 2006 From: jtorresh at gmail.com (Jorge Alberto Torres H.) Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 16:22:28 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Fedora Stuff at Red Hat Cool Stuff Store In-Reply-To: <1150318851.2845.34.camel@MrTomLinux.workstation> References: <1150318851.2845.34.camel@MrTomLinux.workstation> Message-ID: <1cb6ada60606141422w6b5f59ah66e50b3c3355bd7@mail.gmail.com> Hi, I was also very happy when I read about the Fedora Cool Stuff Store, and was going to buy some stuff when I realized what you said: the shipping was more expensive than the stuff I was buying in the first place. For example, for a $3 pen the shipping costs are around $68 (this is, 22 times what the pen costs). I find this pretty expensive because I've bought a lot of things (in other stores like Amazon) and the shipping was only about $10 and $30 for the express delivery. Is there something that can be done about this? On 6/14/06, Thomas Canniot wrote: > Hello everybody, > > First I would like to say that this mail is not -from my point of view- > out this list because it concerns the feedbacks of fedora users (at > least French users), and it is part of Ambassador's job to report > feddbacks. :) > > Fedora Stuff had been announced as available on RH Cool Stuff Store. We, > the French Community, were very eager to have the cool stuffs available. > We were very impatient and I did my best to calm down some French people > from taking the logo and making our *own* French Fedora T-shirt and > goodies, that wouldn't help supporting RH/ the distro. Then we waited. > > And we finally got them! Great news! Thanks everybody, I personaly find > the t-shirts and the caps look great! I wanted to order a shirt, and > found *by surprise* that shipping costs were 3.5 more expensive than the > t-shirts itself (53$ shipping for a 15$ t-shirt)! > > Many people are complaining, because we feel it as unfair, and because > other shops can make more than better shipping costs! > > Where is the problem? Is there something wrong? > > Regards, > > -- > Thomas Canniot > http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasCanniot > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQBEkHkCu9DnUSjKO00RAkPrAKDB1jptr8eDdk5iMdbXZVeWtKvIKQCguhuN > hz0vU9HUxaGwceKZrm5NKsM= > =VCSF > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > From titax-mailing at rezium.net Wed Jun 14 21:35:14 2006 From: titax-mailing at rezium.net (TitaX) Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 23:35:14 +0200 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Fedora Stuff at Red Hat Cool Stuff Store In-Reply-To: <1cb6ada60606141422w6b5f59ah66e50b3c3355bd7@mail.gmail.com> References: <1150318851.2845.34.camel@MrTomLinux.workstation> <1cb6ada60606141422w6b5f59ah66e50b3c3355bd7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Why not authorize the ambassadors of the European countries to publish them same their tee-shirt? -- Thierry http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThierryDelmonte 2006/6/14, Jorge Alberto Torres H. : > > Hi, > > I was also very happy when I read about the Fedora Cool Stuff Store, > and was going to buy some stuff when I realized what you said: the > shipping was more expensive than the stuff I was buying in the first > place. > > For example, for a $3 pen the shipping costs are around $68 (this is, > 22 times what the pen costs). I find this pretty expensive because > I've bought a lot of things (in other stores like Amazon) and the > shipping was only about $10 and $30 for the express delivery. > > Is there something that can be done about this? > > > On 6/14/06, Thomas Canniot wrote: > > Hello everybody, > > > > First I would like to say that this mail is not -from my point of view- > > out this list because it concerns the feedbacks of fedora users (at > > least French users), and it is part of Ambassador's job to report > > feddbacks. :) > > > > Fedora Stuff had been announced as available on RH Cool Stuff Store. We, > > the French Community, were very eager to have the cool stuffs available. > > We were very impatient and I did my best to calm down some French people > > from taking the logo and making our *own* French Fedora T-shirt and > > goodies, that wouldn't help supporting RH/ the distro. Then we waited. > > > > And we finally got them! Great news! Thanks everybody, I personaly find > > the t-shirts and the caps look great! I wanted to order a shirt, and > > found *by surprise* that shipping costs were 3.5 more expensive than the > > t-shirts itself (53$ shipping for a 15$ t-shirt)! > > > > Many people are complaining, because we feel it as unfair, and because > > other shops can make more than better shipping costs! > > > > Where is the problem? Is there something wrong? > > > > Regards, > > > > -- > > Thomas Canniot > > http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasCanniot > > > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) > > > > iD8DBQBEkHkCu9DnUSjKO00RAkPrAKDB1jptr8eDdk5iMdbXZVeWtKvIKQCguhuN > > hz0vU9HUxaGwceKZrm5NKsM= > > =VCSF > > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michael at knox.net.nz Wed Jun 14 21:37:31 2006 From: michael at knox.net.nz (Michael J. Knox) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 09:37:31 +1200 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Fedora Stuff at Red Hat Cool Stuff Store In-Reply-To: <1cb6ada60606141422w6b5f59ah66e50b3c3355bd7@mail.gmail.com> References: <1150318851.2845.34.camel@MrTomLinux.workstation> <1cb6ada60606141422w6b5f59ah66e50b3c3355bd7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4490819B.6080102@knox.net.nz> Hopefully they can offer alternative means of shipping. thinkgeek.com ships to New Zealand and while its still expensive, its not as expensive as the RH store. Example, a $14.99 USD tshirt costs $23.18 USD via UPS express to New Zealand. At the RH store, $45 USD for a fleese pull over and $68 USD to ship it to New Zealand. Michael Jorge Alberto Torres H. wrote: > Hi, > > I was also very happy when I read about the Fedora Cool Stuff Store, > and was going to buy some stuff when I realized what you said: the > shipping was more expensive than the stuff I was buying in the first > place. > > For example, for a $3 pen the shipping costs are around $68 (this is, > 22 times what the pen costs). I find this pretty expensive because > I've bought a lot of things (in other stores like Amazon) and the > shipping was only about $10 and $30 for the express delivery. > > Is there something that can be done about this? > > > On 6/14/06, Thomas Canniot wrote: > >> Hello everybody, >> >> First I would like to say that this mail is not -from my point of view- >> out this list because it concerns the feedbacks of fedora users (at >> least French users), and it is part of Ambassador's job to report >> feddbacks. :) >> >> Fedora Stuff had been announced as available on RH Cool Stuff Store. We, >> the French Community, were very eager to have the cool stuffs available. >> We were very impatient and I did my best to calm down some French people >> from taking the logo and making our *own* French Fedora T-shirt and >> goodies, that wouldn't help supporting RH/ the distro. Then we waited. >> >> And we finally got them! Great news! Thanks everybody, I personaly find >> the t-shirts and the caps look great! I wanted to order a shirt, and >> found *by surprise* that shipping costs were 3.5 more expensive than the >> t-shirts itself (53$ shipping for a 15$ t-shirt)! >> >> Many people are complaining, because we feel it as unfair, and because >> other shops can make more than better shipping costs! >> >> Where is the problem? Is there something wrong? >> >> Regards, >> >> -- >> Thomas Canniot >> http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasCanniot >> >> >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >> Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) >> >> iD8DBQBEkHkCu9DnUSjKO00RAkPrAKDB1jptr8eDdk5iMdbXZVeWtKvIKQCguhuN >> hz0vU9HUxaGwceKZrm5NKsM= >> =VCSF >> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >> >> >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> >> >> > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list From thomas.canniot at laposte.net Wed Jun 14 21:45:33 2006 From: thomas.canniot at laposte.net (Thomas Canniot) Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 23:45:33 +0200 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Fedora Stuff at Red Hat Cool Stuff Store In-Reply-To: <369bce3b0606141420h7167b83dx46c65b802bff8fb0@mail.gmail.com> References: <1150318851.2845.34.camel@MrTomLinux.workstation> <369bce3b0606141420h7167b83dx46c65b802bff8fb0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1150321533.2845.41.camel@MrTomLinux.workstation> Le mercredi 14 juin 2006 ? 14:20 -0700, Thomas Chung a ?crit : > On 6/14/06, Thomas Canniot wrote: > >... > > And we finally got them! Great news! Thanks everybody, I personaly find > > the t-shirts and the caps look great! I wanted to order a shirt, and > > found *by surprise* that shipping costs were 3.5 more expensive than the > > t-shirts itself (53$ shipping for a 15$ t-shirt)! > > > > Many people are complaining, because we feel it as unfair, and because > > other shops can make more than better shipping costs! > > > > Where is the problem? Is there something wrong? > > Unfortunately, Fedora Stuff isn't available from European Store [1] yet. > That's why the cost of shipping from US Store [2] to European > countries including France could be very expensive. > Regards, > > [1] https://www.europe.redhat.com/shop/en/coolstuff.php3 > [2] http://redhat.brandfuelstores.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=37 Maybe, but RH seems to be the *only* American store that have such high shipping costs. About the European store, the only shipping method is UPS. Let's quote : "The shipping cost will be 23.59 EUR for UPS." It makes a cap at about $54. I really would like to know who is kidding :) Regards -- Thomas Canniot http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasCanniot -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Ceci est une partie de message num?riquement sign?e URL: From gerold at lugd.org Wed Jun 14 21:47:02 2006 From: gerold at lugd.org (Gerold Kassube) Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 23:47:02 +0200 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Fedora Stuff at Red Hat Cool Stuff Store In-Reply-To: <4490819B.6080102@knox.net.nz> References: <1150318851.2845.34.camel@MrTomLinux.workstation> <1cb6ada60606141422w6b5f59ah66e50b3c3355bd7@mail.gmail.com> <4490819B.6080102@knox.net.nz> Message-ID: <1150321622.2640.2.camel@FC5NB.homenet.local> we can say what we want, it doesn't care ... BUT imho we need urgend another solution for this issue. I know it's not very constructive to say it like this, because I have already no other (better) idea, but thi issue cann't be the end of the story :-( Gerold Am Donnerstag, den 15.06.2006, 09:37 +1200 schrieb Michael J. Knox: > Hopefully they can offer alternative means of shipping. > > thinkgeek.com ships to New Zealand and while its still expensive, its > not as expensive as the RH store. Example, a $14.99 USD tshirt costs > $23.18 USD via UPS express to New Zealand. > > At the RH store, $45 USD for a fleese pull over and $68 USD to ship it > to New Zealand. > > Michael > > Jorge Alberto Torres H. wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I was also very happy when I read about the Fedora Cool Stuff Store, > > and was going to buy some stuff when I realized what you said: the > > shipping was more expensive than the stuff I was buying in the first > > place. > > > > For example, for a $3 pen the shipping costs are around $68 (this is, > > 22 times what the pen costs). I find this pretty expensive because > > I've bought a lot of things (in other stores like Amazon) and the > > shipping was only about $10 and $30 for the express delivery. > > > > Is there something that can be done about this? > > > > > > On 6/14/06, Thomas Canniot wrote: > > > >> Hello everybody, > >> > >> First I would like to say that this mail is not -from my point of view- > >> out this list because it concerns the feedbacks of fedora users (at > >> least French users), and it is part of Ambassador's job to report > >> feddbacks. :) > >> > >> Fedora Stuff had been announced as available on RH Cool Stuff Store. We, > >> the French Community, were very eager to have the cool stuffs available. > >> We were very impatient and I did my best to calm down some French people > >> from taking the logo and making our *own* French Fedora T-shirt and > >> goodies, that wouldn't help supporting RH/ the distro. Then we waited. > >> > >> And we finally got them! Great news! Thanks everybody, I personaly find > >> the t-shirts and the caps look great! I wanted to order a shirt, and > >> found *by surprise* that shipping costs were 3.5 more expensive than the > >> t-shirts itself (53$ shipping for a 15$ t-shirt)! > >> > >> Many people are complaining, because we feel it as unfair, and because > >> other shops can make more than better shipping costs! > >> > >> Where is the problem? Is there something wrong? > >> > >> Regards, > >> > >> -- > >> Thomas Canniot > >> http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasCanniot > >> > >> > >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > >> Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) > >> > >> iD8DBQBEkHkCu9DnUSjKO00RAkPrAKDB1jptr8eDdk5iMdbXZVeWtKvIKQCguhuN > >> hz0vU9HUxaGwceKZrm5NKsM= > >> =VCSF > >> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > >> > >> > >> > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list -- Regards Gerold Kassube Fedora Ambassador Deutschland / Germany Email: GeroldKa at fedoraproject.org 1024D/F33128B9 4ABC A903 F1F4 D9CC C422 AACA EDF1 DF42 F331 28B9 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I find this pretty expensive because > I've bought a lot of things (in other stores like Amazon) and the > shipping was only about $10 and $30 for the express delivery. > > Is there something that can be done about this? Here is what I can do for our *active* Ambassadors. I've just placed 25 Fedora Pens and it cost only $7.35 for shipping to here in US locally. I'm going to find out the least amount of shipping cost to outside of US. Hopefully, it won't cost no more than $10. -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung From tchung at fedoraproject.org Wed Jun 14 21:55:04 2006 From: tchung at fedoraproject.org (Thomas Chung) Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 14:55:04 -0700 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Fedora Stuff at Red Hat Cool Stuff Store In-Reply-To: References: <1150318851.2845.34.camel@MrTomLinux.workstation> <1cb6ada60606141422w6b5f59ah66e50b3c3355bd7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <369bce3b0606141455n4fa5ebb6n753fa9a0430a4c8c@mail.gmail.com> On 6/14/06, TitaX wrote: > Why not authorize the ambassadors of the European countries to publish them > same their tee-shirt? Actually, all *approved* Ambassadors living outside of US have been asked to produce Fedora Materials (DVDs, T-Shirts) locally for their Fedora Events then request for reimbursement. Of course the request needs to be reviewed and approved by FAMsco. Ambassador Reimbursement Guidelines are available at: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/SteeringCommittee -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung From tchung at fedoraproject.org Wed Jun 14 22:02:28 2006 From: tchung at fedoraproject.org (Thomas Chung) Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 15:02:28 -0700 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Fedora Stuff at Red Hat Cool Stuff Store In-Reply-To: <1150321533.2845.41.camel@MrTomLinux.workstation> References: <1150318851.2845.34.camel@MrTomLinux.workstation> <369bce3b0606141420h7167b83dx46c65b802bff8fb0@mail.gmail.com> <1150321533.2845.41.camel@MrTomLinux.workstation> Message-ID: <369bce3b0606141502y71700017lac368d1556d77c2@mail.gmail.com> On 6/14/06, Thomas Canniot wrote: > Maybe, but RH seems to be the *only* American store that have such high > shipping costs. Please note this store[1] is not *owned* by Red Hat but *owned and run* by Brandfuel[2]. So it's not fair to blame Red Hat which they might not have the control over shipping cost. Regards, [1] http://redhat.brandfuelstores.com/ [2] http://www.brandfuel.com/ -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung From thomas.canniot at laposte.net Wed Jun 14 22:09:28 2006 From: thomas.canniot at laposte.net (Thomas Canniot) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 00:09:28 +0200 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Fedora Stuff at Red Hat Cool Stuff Store In-Reply-To: <369bce3b0606141502y71700017lac368d1556d77c2@mail.gmail.com> References: <1150318851.2845.34.camel@MrTomLinux.workstation> <369bce3b0606141420h7167b83dx46c65b802bff8fb0@mail.gmail.com> <1150321533.2845.41.camel@MrTomLinux.workstation> <369bce3b0606141502y71700017lac368d1556d77c2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1150322968.2845.42.camel@MrTomLinux.workstation> Le mercredi 14 juin 2006 ? 15:02 -0700, Thomas Chung a ?crit : > On 6/14/06, Thomas Canniot wrote: > > Maybe, but RH seems to be the *only* American store that have such high > > shipping costs. > > Please note this store[1] is not *owned* by Red Hat but *owned and > run* by Brandfuel[2]. > So it's not fair to blame Red Hat which they might not have the > control over shipping cost. > Regards, > > [1] http://redhat.brandfuelstores.com/ > [2] http://www.brandfuel.com/ That I didn't see. Read "Brandfuel sucks" instead :) -- Thomas Canniot http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasCanniot -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Ceci est une partie de message num?riquement sign?e URL: From michael at knox.net.nz Wed Jun 14 22:09:22 2006 From: michael at knox.net.nz (Michael J. Knox) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 10:09:22 +1200 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Fedora Stuff at Red Hat Cool Stuff Store In-Reply-To: <369bce3b0606141502y71700017lac368d1556d77c2@mail.gmail.com> References: <1150318851.2845.34.camel@MrTomLinux.workstation> <369bce3b0606141420h7167b83dx46c65b802bff8fb0@mail.gmail.com> <1150321533.2845.41.camel@MrTomLinux.workstation> <369bce3b0606141502y71700017lac368d1556d77c2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <44908912.6070007@knox.net.nz> Thomas Chung wrote: > On 6/14/06, Thomas Canniot wrote: > >> Maybe, but RH seems to be the *only* American store that have such high >> shipping costs. > > > Please note this store[1] is not *owned* by Red Hat but *owned and > run* by Brandfuel[2]. > So it's not fair to blame Red Hat which they might not have the > control over shipping cost. > Regards, > > [1] http://redhat.brandfuelstores.com/ > [2] http://www.brandfuel.com/ Perhaps those of us that are not happy with the shipping costs can contact brandfuel and request they review their shipping costs. Michael From thomas.canniot at laposte.net Wed Jun 14 22:13:14 2006 From: thomas.canniot at laposte.net (Thomas Canniot) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 00:13:14 +0200 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Fedora Stuff at Red Hat Cool Stuff Store In-Reply-To: <369bce3b0606141455n4fa5ebb6n753fa9a0430a4c8c@mail.gmail.com> References: <1150318851.2845.34.camel@MrTomLinux.workstation> <1cb6ada60606141422w6b5f59ah66e50b3c3355bd7@mail.gmail.com> <369bce3b0606141455n4fa5ebb6n753fa9a0430a4c8c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1150323195.2845.47.camel@MrTomLinux.workstation> Le mercredi 14 juin 2006 ? 14:55 -0700, Thomas Chung a ?crit : > On 6/14/06, TitaX wrote: > > Why not authorize the ambassadors of the European countries to publish them > > same their tee-shirt? > > Actually, all *approved* Ambassadors living outside of US have been > asked to produce Fedora Materials (DVDs, T-Shirts) locally for their > Fedora Events then request for reimbursement. Of course the request > needs to be reviewed and approved by FAMsco. > > Ambassador Reimbursement Guidelines are available at: > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/SteeringCommittee Even if it reimbursed, I can't afford such an expense. My local lug ordered home made t-shirts and I really can't afford such an amount of money. -- Thomas Canniot http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasCanniot -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I find this pretty expensive because > > I've bought a lot of things (in other stores like Amazon) and the > > shipping was only about $10 and $30 for the express delivery. > > > > Is there something that can be done about this? > > Here is what I can do for our *active* Ambassadors. > I've just placed 25 Fedora Pens and it cost only $7.35 for shipping to > here in US locally. > I'm going to find out the least amount of shipping cost to outside of US. > Hopefully, it won't cost no more than $10. > -- > Thomas Chung > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung > Ok, I just found out via USPS.com, International shipping cost for 3 ounces: Global Priority Mail - Flat-rate Envelope (Small) 4 - 6 Days $5.25 I'll let you guys know when I receive Fedora Pens and I'll offer you one for the cost of shipping cost only. :) -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung From thomas.canniot at laposte.net Wed Jun 14 22:21:06 2006 From: thomas.canniot at laposte.net (Thomas Canniot) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 00:21:06 +0200 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Fedora Stuff at Red Hat Cool Stuff Store In-Reply-To: <369bce3b0606141518s37d1c4d7jde573421a4487b4f@mail.gmail.com> References: <1150318851.2845.34.camel@MrTomLinux.workstation> <1cb6ada60606141422w6b5f59ah66e50b3c3355bd7@mail.gmail.com> <369bce3b0606141450u47abededyb8f8f7937878bfe8@mail.gmail.com> <369bce3b0606141518s37d1c4d7jde573421a4487b4f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1150323666.2845.49.camel@MrTomLinux.workstation> Le mercredi 14 juin 2006 ? 15:18 -0700, Thomas Chung a ?crit : > On 6/14/06, Thomas Chung wrote: > > On 6/14/06, Jorge Alberto Torres H. wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > I was also very happy when I read about the Fedora Cool Stuff Store, > > > and was going to buy some stuff when I realized what you said: the > > > shipping was more expensive than the stuff I was buying in the first > > > place. > > > > > > For example, for a $3 pen the shipping costs are around $68 (this is, > > > 22 times what the pen costs). I find this pretty expensive because > > > I've bought a lot of things (in other stores like Amazon) and the > > > shipping was only about $10 and $30 for the express delivery. > > > > > > Is there something that can be done about this? > > > > Here is what I can do for our *active* Ambassadors. > > I've just placed 25 Fedora Pens and it cost only $7.35 for shipping to > > here in US locally. > > I'm going to find out the least amount of shipping cost to outside of US. > > Hopefully, it won't cost no more than $10. > > -- > > Thomas Chung > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung > > > > Ok, I just found out via USPS.com, International shipping cost for 3 ounces: > Global Priority Mail - Flat-rate Envelope (Small) 4 - 6 Days $5.25 > I'll let you guys know when I receive Fedora Pens and I'll offer you > one for the cost of shipping cost only. :) Thanks a lot! 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Another idea is for Red Hat to change it's store owner from Brandfuel to something that has reasonable shipping costs. It's not just the money, it's bad publicity too. -- Dimitris Glezos Jabber ID: glezos at jabber.org, PGP: 0xA5A04C3B http://dimitris.glezos.com/ "He who gives up functionality for ease of use loses both and deserves neither." (Anonymous) -- From nman64 at n-man.com Wed Jun 14 23:25:40 2006 From: nman64 at n-man.com (Patrick W. Barnes) Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 18:25:40 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Fedora Stuff at Red Hat Cool Stuff Store In-Reply-To: <1150318851.2845.34.camel@MrTomLinux.workstation> References: <1150318851.2845.34.camel@MrTomLinux.workstation> Message-ID: <200606141825.43271.nman64@n-man.com> On Wednesday 14 June 2006 16:00, Thomas Canniot wrote: > > Many people are complaining, because we feel it as unfair, and because > other shops can make more than better shipping costs! > > Where is the problem? Is there something wrong? > Before this gets too far... There is already an established relationship between Red Hat and Brandfuel. Brandfuel's shipping may not be efficient for international orders, but we really don't intend for all ambassadors to procure merchandise from this Brandfuel store. This is really targeted at American ambassadors and users. We hope to establish similar relationships in other parts of the world to better service all ambassadors and users worldwide, but it will take time. Until such options are available, you can make arrangements to ship the merchandise to someone in the U.S. who can then forward it at a better international rate, you can endure the higher costs, or you can produce locally and request reimbursement. We realize that these may not always be options, and you can still use the Ambassador Request Form to request merchandise for your events. We can then address the issue on a case-by-case basis. -- Patrick "The N-Man" Barnes nman64 at n-man.com http://www.n-man.com/ LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/nman64 Have I been helpful? Rate my assistance! http://rate.affero.net/nman64/ -- -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Barnes wrote: > There is already an established relationship between Red Hat and Brandfuel. I thought the point of us working with BrandFuel, whom Red Hat has relations with, is that they'd cut the ambassadors some slack. ie, give the products to the Ambassadors (for official purpouse) at Slightly over cost price, and FAMSco can directly pay BrandFuel, in case of Goodies being shipped to ambassadors for events. If this is not the case, then why do we want BrandFuel selling our stuff? We should find a more global vendor to carry our goods. Gja From mspevack at redhat.com Thu Jun 15 02:27:19 2006 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 22:27:19 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Fedora Stuff at Red Hat Cool Stuff Store In-Reply-To: <1cb6ada60606141422w6b5f59ah66e50b3c3355bd7@mail.gmail.com> References: <1150318851.2845.34.camel@MrTomLinux.workstation> <1cb6ada60606141422w6b5f59ah66e50b3c3355bd7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 14 Jun 2006, Jorge Alberto Torres H. wrote: > For example, for a $3 pen the shipping costs are around $68 (this is, > 22 times what the pen costs). I find this pretty expensive because > I've bought a lot of things (in other stores like Amazon) and the > shipping was only about $10 and $30 for the express delivery. > > Is there something that can be done about this? Yes. Step 1 was to get the US coolstuff store setup. Step 2 is to figure out how to replicate a similar sort of setup in other geos, because clearly the shipping costs are insane out of the US. Shipping costs is the biggest problem that we have with swag, and we know it needs to be dealt with. --Max -- Max Spevack + http://people.redhat.com/mspevack/ + gpg key -- http://people.redhat.com/mspevack/mspevack.asc + fingerprint -- CD52 5E72 369B B00D 9E9A 773E 2FDB CB46 5A17 CF21 From sankarshan.mukhopadhyay at gmail.com Thu Jun 15 08:08:36 2006 From: sankarshan.mukhopadhyay at gmail.com (Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 13:38:36 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Fedora Stuff at Red Hat Cool Stuff Store In-Reply-To: References: <1150318851.2845.34.camel@MrTomLinux.workstation> <1cb6ada60606141422w6b5f59ah66e50b3c3355bd7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <7e3d3af30606150108i49b9e836w9763de4175e95b7f@mail.gmail.com> On 6/15/06, Max Spevack wrote: > > Yes. Step 1 was to get the US coolstuff store setup. Step 2 is to figure > out how to replicate a similar sort of setup in other geos, because > clearly the shipping costs are insane out of the US. > > Shipping costs is the biggest problem that we have with swag, and we know > it needs to be dealt with. > > Possible solutions to the predicament (and I know there might be glitches in implementing them) o Hold on to the art work rights but allow local equivalents of ThinkGeeks to come up (right now someone I know has been bugging me as to whether a ThinkGeek or a Cafepress equivalent would be welcome by Red Hat as one of the entities involved) o Get BrandFuel to work out a reasonable pricing mechanism o Figuring out if the presence of Red Hat offices locally could be leveraged :Sankarshan -- You see things; and you say 'Why?'; But I dream things that never were; and I say 'Why not?' - George Bernard Shaw -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karlie_Robinson at webpath.net Thu Jun 15 13:47:29 2006 From: karlie_Robinson at webpath.net (Karlie Robinson) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 08:47:29 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Shipping 101 - was Fedora Stuff @ Cool Stuff Store In-Reply-To: References: <1150318851.2845.34.camel@MrTomLinux.workstation> <1cb6ada60606141422w6b5f59ah66e50b3c3355bd7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <449164F1.7060900@webpath.net> Max Spevack wrote: > ...because clearly the shipping costs are insane out of the US. > > Shipping costs is the biggest problem that we have with swag, and we > know it needs to be dealt with. > > --Max > Shipping costs from the USA to international locations have never been insane. A little expensive, but never insane. It all comes down to the mail room and the knowledge and flexibility of the people working there to get things from point a-b at a reasonable cost. Like the Pens Thomas Chung would like to ship... Air Mail Letter Post to most locations would arrive in about 7 days and be less than $2.55 postage. As an added bonus, when something is less than 1 pound customs forms aren't required. So take a t-shirt. If it's packaged in a light but rugged package, like a tyvek envelope, you can get it under 1 pound. You also have the choice of using USPS "Flat-Rate" envelopes (no need to buy the tyvek ones now) and shove as much into it as you possibly can for the same price. (BTW - Global priority, Large Flat Rate to France - $9.50 but it's only about 1 day faster than the lower cost Air Mail options, but you'll save if your package is heavy) Now, if you're talking bulk discs... 100 DVDs should be 5 pounds or less (including packaging) Again, going plain old Air Mail Parcel Post - $28.70 If you'd like to significantly reduce the import Duty... Some cases eliminate it...the key is mark GIFT on the form. (the reciever is going to get slammed if you declare $500 value) If the intention is to give the discs out at events free of charge and there is no cost to the person you're mailing them to, then GIFT would apply on the customs forms. Please keep in mind, the reason I haven't quoted UPS or FedEx is because volume plays a large role in the shipping price with the commercial carriers. If you're business is shipping 1-2 items a day, the USPS is going to be the price leader. But if you're shipping 100+ daily, the volume discounts come into play and ounce for ounce will be less than the United States Post Office. Karlie "I ship for a living" Robinson From mcgiwer at fedoraproject.org Thu Jun 15 15:00:55 2006 From: mcgiwer at fedoraproject.org (Pawel Sadowski) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 17:00:55 +0200 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Fedora Stuff at Red Hat Cool Stuff Store In-Reply-To: <44908912.6070007@knox.net.nz> References: <1150318851.2845.34.camel@MrTomLinux.workstation> <369bce3b0606141420h7167b83dx46c65b802bff8fb0@mail.gmail.com> <1150321533.2845.41.camel@MrTomLinux.workstation> <369bce3b0606141502y71700017lac368d1556d77c2@mail.gmail.com> <44908912.6070007@knox.net.nz> Message-ID: <1150383656.4752.9.camel@redhat> On 15-06-2006, thu at 10:09 +1200, Michael J. Knox wrote: > Thomas Chung wrote: > > On 6/14/06, Thomas Canniot wrote: > > > >> Maybe, but RH seems to be the *only* American store that have such high > >> shipping costs. > > > > > > Please note this store[1] is not *owned* by Red Hat but *owned and > > run* by Brandfuel[2]. > > So it's not fair to blame Red Hat which they might not have the > > control over shipping cost. > > Regards, > > > > [1] http://redhat.brandfuelstores.com/ > > [2] http://www.brandfuel.com/ > > Perhaps those of us that are not happy with the shipping costs can > contact brandfuel and request they review their shipping costs. > > Michael Yeah, I agree with you all guys. Some time ago I wanted to buy some Red Hat Cool Stuff, but the shipping cost was "quite expensive", more expensive than the stuff itself. It indeed can be a good idea to suggest Red Hat changing of the shop owner. On 15-06-2006, thu at 00:13:14 +0200, Thomas Canniot > Even if it reimbursed, I can't afford such an expense. My local lug > ordered home made t-shirts and I really can't afford such an amount of > money. Yep, you're right. I have a question to Thomas Chung - do we have to pay for the stuff produced locally first, and then we can be reimbursed, or is it possible to just pay for it by reimbursed money? E.g.: Ambassador could order the stuff at a local shop, give to you needed data and FAMSCO could pay for it? Thomas (Canniot) is right, it is really a large expense for a "normal guy". Regards, Pawel Sadowski From mcgiwer at fedoraproject.org Thu Jun 15 15:55:58 2006 From: mcgiwer at fedoraproject.org (Pawel Sadowski) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 17:55:58 +0200 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Cost of producing Fedora stuff Message-ID: <1150386958.4752.28.camel@redhat> Hi, I want to ask one question. I am planning to prepare something about 200 T-shirts and the same amount of Fedora DVDs for the future events (LinuxWorld was postponed and as I know will be propably on autumn). More-less in the same time, there will be few events in Poland - Fedora Open Days, LinuxWorld as I mentioned and a Red Hat conference - maybe it will be possible to place Fedora booth there, so I will need swag. I can order it from the US, but I think it would be cheaper if I produced it locally (one Fedora T-shirt at Red Hat Cool Stuff Store is $15, while cost of one T-shirt in Poland would be about $6). As I mentioned in my previous e-mail - it is too large amount for me to pay for 200 T-shirt by myself. What can I do in this situation? If it comes about the shipping cost from the US, I could do something what nman-64 suggested (shipping it to someone in the US, who could forward it to me - I hae already tried with Red Hat Cool Stuff, but resigned temporaily, I will do it in future), but these costs of one T-shirt... I think best idea will be to produce it locally, but I have to know how is the design on T-shirts printed, I mean in what technology. Is it embroidered or just printed? I would like the T-shirts as beautiful as you have them in your store :) I will buy some stuff from the Red Hat Cool Stuff store either way (I want few things fromt there ;)), so I could also order Fedora T- shirts, DVDs and maybe cups, but if it would be cheaper locally then I don't know what to do :> Give me some advice, please. I will be very grateful :) Best regards, Pawel Sadowski From tchung at fedoraproject.org Thu Jun 15 17:09:46 2006 From: tchung at fedoraproject.org (Thomas Chung) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 10:09:46 -0700 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Cost of producing Fedora stuff In-Reply-To: <1150386958.4752.28.camel@redhat> References: <1150386958.4752.28.camel@redhat> Message-ID: <369bce3b0606151009k59ec3d7cja358142a6766c75c@mail.gmail.com> On 6/15/06, Pawel Sadowski wrote: > Hi, > > I want to ask one question. I am planning to prepare something about 200 > T-shirts and the same amount of Fedora DVDs for the future events > (LinuxWorld was postponed and as I know will be propably on autumn). > More-less in the same time, there will be few events in Poland - Fedora > Open Days, LinuxWorld as I mentioned and a Red Hat conference - maybe it > will be possible to place Fedora booth there, so I will need swag. I can > order it from the US, but I think it would be cheaper if I produced it > locally (one Fedora T-shirt at Red Hat Cool Stuff Store is $15, while > cost of one T-shirt in Poland would be about $6). As I mentioned in my > previous e-mail - it is too large amount for me to pay for 200 T-shirt > by myself. What can I do in this situation? If it comes about the > shipping cost from the US, I could do something what nman-64 suggested > (shipping it to someone in the US, who could forward it to me - I hae > already tried with Red Hat Cool Stuff, but resigned temporaily, I will > do it in future), but these costs of one T-shirt... I think best idea > will be to produce it locally, but I have to know how is the design on > T-shirts printed, I mean in what technology. Is it embroidered or just > printed? I would like the T-shirts as beautiful as you have them in your > store :) I will buy some stuff from the Red Hat Cool Stuff store either > way (I want few things fromt there ;)), so I could also order Fedora T- > shirts, DVDs and maybe cups, but if it would be cheaper locally then I > don't know what to do :> Give me some advice, please. I will be very > grateful :) > > Best regards, > Pawel Sadowski Pawel, Please submit your formal request via the form and email to famsco-list. Regards, -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung From tchung at fedoraproject.org Thu Jun 15 17:12:31 2006 From: tchung at fedoraproject.org (Thomas Chung) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 10:12:31 -0700 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Fedora Stuff at Red Hat Cool Stuff Store In-Reply-To: <1150383656.4752.9.camel@redhat> References: <1150318851.2845.34.camel@MrTomLinux.workstation> <369bce3b0606141420h7167b83dx46c65b802bff8fb0@mail.gmail.com> <1150321533.2845.41.camel@MrTomLinux.workstation> <369bce3b0606141502y71700017lac368d1556d77c2@mail.gmail.com> <44908912.6070007@knox.net.nz> <1150383656.4752.9.camel@redhat> Message-ID: <369bce3b0606151012h430b8cc3radaab7d593ec4111@mail.gmail.com> On 6/15/06, Pawel Sadowski wrote: > Yep, you're right. I have a question to Thomas Chung - do we have to pay > for the stuff produced locally first, and then we can be reimbursed, or > is it possible to just pay for it by reimbursed money? E.g.: Ambassador > could order the stuff at a local shop, give to you needed data and > FAMSCO could pay for it? Thomas (Canniot) is right, it is really a large > expense for a "normal guy". That's something you'll have to work with your local vendor. Once again, please submit your formal request via the form and email to famsco-list. Regards, -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung From fhornain at gmail.com Thu Jun 15 17:26:41 2006 From: fhornain at gmail.com (Frederic Hornain) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 19:26:41 +0200 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] alias e-mail is pointing to an older email address Message-ID: <3161376e0606151026p3750cc24i60c06158f0ec7def@mail.gmail.com> Dear *, I know I was not be on the mailling list for quite long time but I am always be active as Belgian Ambassador. Well, the fact is I had to change my email address to the Fedora Account System due to specific policies. That is what I did. So I went to my Fedora Account system and then I change the value of the email address box to a new one. However, at the contrary of what it is written on the following URL " http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/EmailAliases?action=show&redirect=Ambassadors%2FEmails " which is "Your aliases will forward to whatever email address you have registered in the Account System. If ever you need to change the address your mail forwards to, that is the place to do it.". It seems that my alias does not point to the correct address even if I changed it in Fedora Account System. Maybe, someone in this mailling list could help me resovle this little problem. Thanks in advance. Best Regards Fred -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tchung at fedoraproject.org Thu Jun 15 17:29:14 2006 From: tchung at fedoraproject.org (Thomas Chung) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 10:29:14 -0700 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] alias e-mail is pointing to an older email address In-Reply-To: <3161376e0606151026p3750cc24i60c06158f0ec7def@mail.gmail.com> References: <3161376e0606151026p3750cc24i60c06158f0ec7def@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <369bce3b0606151029o679db104qcb171778119e8810@mail.gmail.com> On 6/15/06, Frederic Hornain wrote: > Dear *, > > I know I was not be on the mailling list for quite long time but I am always > be active as Belgian Ambassador. > > Well, the fact is I had to change my email address to the Fedora Account > System due to specific policies. > That is what I did. So I went to my Fedora Account system and then I change > the value of the email address box to a new one. > However, at the contrary of what it is written on the following URL " > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/EmailAliases?action=show&redirect=Ambassadors%2FEmails" > which is "Your aliases will forward to whatever email address you have > registered in the Account System. If ever you need to change the address > your mail forwards to, that is the place to do it.". > It seems that my alias does not point to the correct address even if I > changed it in Fedora Account System. > > Maybe, someone in this mailling list could help me resovle this little > problem. > Thanks in advance. > > Best Regards > Fred Fred, Please contact me off list. Regards, -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung From mspevack at redhat.com Fri Jun 16 18:09:02 2006 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 14:09:02 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Shipping 101 - was Fedora Stuff @ Cool Stuff Store In-Reply-To: <449164F1.7060900@webpath.net> References: <1150318851.2845.34.camel@MrTomLinux.workstation> <1cb6ada60606141422w6b5f59ah66e50b3c3355bd7@mail.gmail.com> <449164F1.7060900@webpath.net> Message-ID: Karlie, Many thanks for that insight. We've definitely been nailed on customs costs before by not declaring something a "gift" when in fact it was being sent to someone at no cost to them, which certainly falls under my definition of "gift". :-) --Max On Thu, 15 Jun 2006, Karlie Robinson wrote: > Max Spevack wrote: > >> ...because clearly the shipping costs are insane out of the US. >> >> Shipping costs is the biggest problem that we have with swag, and we know >> it needs to be dealt with. >> >> --Max >> > Shipping costs from the USA to international locations have never been > insane. A little expensive, but never insane. > It all comes down to the mail room and the knowledge and flexibility of the > people working there to get things from point a-b at a reasonable cost. > Like the Pens Thomas Chung would like to ship... > Air Mail Letter Post to most locations would arrive in about 7 days and be > less than $2.55 postage. As an added bonus, when something is less than 1 > pound customs forms aren't required. > So take a t-shirt. If it's packaged in a light but rugged package, like a > tyvek envelope, you can get it under 1 pound. You also have the choice of > using USPS "Flat-Rate" envelopes (no need to buy the tyvek ones now) and > shove as much into it as you possibly can for the same price. (BTW - Global > priority, Large Flat Rate to France - $9.50 but it's only about 1 day faster > than the lower cost Air Mail options, but you'll save if your package is > heavy) > > Now, if you're talking bulk discs... > 100 DVDs should be 5 pounds or less (including packaging) > Again, going plain old Air Mail Parcel Post - $28.70 > > If you'd like to significantly reduce the import Duty... Some cases eliminate > it...the key is mark GIFT on the form. (the reciever is going to get slammed > if you declare $500 value) > > If the intention is to give the discs out at events free of charge and there > is no cost to the person you're mailing them to, then GIFT would apply on the > customs forms. > Please keep in mind, the reason I haven't quoted UPS or FedEx is because > volume plays a large role in the shipping price with the commercial carriers. > If you're business is shipping 1-2 items a day, the USPS is going to be the > price leader. But if you're shipping 100+ daily, the volume discounts come > into play and ounce for ounce will be less than the United States Post > Office. > > Karlie "I ship for a living" Robinson > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- Max Spevack + http://people.redhat.com/mspevack/ + gpg key -- http://people.redhat.com/mspevack/mspevack.asc + fingerprint -- CD52 5E72 369B B00D 9E9A 773E 2FDB CB46 5A17 CF21 From tchung at fedoraproject.org Fri Jun 16 20:13:44 2006 From: tchung at fedoraproject.org (Thomas Chung) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 13:13:44 -0700 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Fedora Ambassadors Meeting Minutes 2006-06-15 Message-ID: <369bce3b0606161313o7f90d225h2254d37894be280b@mail.gmail.com> Fedora Ambassadors Meeting Minutes 2006-06-15 has been posted. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/2006-06-15 As a reminder, if you have an up-coming event for yourself, please attend our regular meeting to report or send out an email report to fedora-ambassadors-list. Our next meeting will be held on 2006-06-22 14:00 UTC http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/ Regards, -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung From mcgiwer at fedoraproject.org Sun Jun 18 14:03:44 2006 From: mcgiwer at fedoraproject.org (Pawel Sadowski) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 16:03:44 +0200 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Fedora blogs Message-ID: <1150639424.4175.20.camel@redhat> Hi all, I have an idea, maybe a little bit crazy, but after a while of thinking, I will post it here ;) Maybe we could run on the Fedora Project's pages somethink as Red Hat runs. I mean our own blogs, so every Ambassador and Project participant could write what is going on. The address for a blog like that could be for example http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraBlogs/ParticipantName or something like that. What do you think about this? ;) Regards, Pawel Sadowski From chitlesh at fedoraproject.org Sun Jun 18 14:09:09 2006 From: chitlesh at fedoraproject.org (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 16:09:09 +0200 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Fedora blogs In-Reply-To: <1150639424.4175.20.camel@redhat> References: <1150639424.4175.20.camel@redhat> Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0606180709kb076e54ic1f9eb1a472cc578@mail.gmail.com> On 6/18/06, Pawel Sadowski wrote: > Hi all, > > I have an idea, maybe a little bit crazy, but after a while of thinking, > I will post it here ;) Maybe we could run on the Fedora Project's pages > somethink as Red Hat runs. I mean our own blogs, so every Ambassador and > Project participant could write what is going on. The address for a blog > like that could be for example > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraBlogs/ParticipantName or something > like that. What do you think about this? ;) > Like the http://fedoraproject.org/people/ ? -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com From mcgiwer at fedoraproject.org Sun Jun 18 14:18:56 2006 From: mcgiwer at fedoraproject.org (Pawel Sadowski) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 16:18:56 +0200 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Fedora blogs In-Reply-To: <13dbfe4f0606180709kb076e54ic1f9eb1a472cc578@mail.gmail.com> References: <1150639424.4175.20.camel@redhat> <13dbfe4f0606180709kb076e54ic1f9eb1a472cc578@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1150640336.4175.26.camel@redhat> On 18-06-2006, sun at 16:09 +0200, Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: > On 6/18/06, Pawel Sadowski wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > I have an idea, maybe a little bit crazy, but after a while of thinking, > > I will post it here ;) Maybe we could run on the Fedora Project's pages > > somethink as Red Hat runs. I mean our own blogs, so every Ambassador and > > Project participant could write what is going on. The address for a blog > > like that could be for example > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraBlogs/ParticipantName or something > > like that. What do you think about this? ;) > > > > Like the http://fedoraproject.org/people/ ? Yeah, something like that but not certainly. I mean "official" blogs on the Project's servers. But here is the problem - would we have enough resources to run something like that? Cheers, Pawel Sadowski From chitlesh at fedoraproject.org Sun Jun 18 14:35:42 2006 From: chitlesh at fedoraproject.org (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 16:35:42 +0200 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Fedora blogs In-Reply-To: <1150640336.4175.26.camel@redhat> References: <1150639424.4175.20.camel@redhat> <13dbfe4f0606180709kb076e54ic1f9eb1a472cc578@mail.gmail.com> <1150640336.4175.26.camel@redhat> Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0606180735g499a266erf09e714fc242f3f6@mail.gmail.com> On 6/18/06, Pawel Sadowski wrote: > Yeah, something like that but not certainly. I mean "official" blogs on > the Project's servers. But here is the problem - would we have enough > resources to run something like that? so you might be looking for http://fedoranews.org/cms/FedoraBlogs -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com From mcgiwer at fedoraproject.org Sun Jun 18 14:42:10 2006 From: mcgiwer at fedoraproject.org (Pawel Sadowski) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 16:42:10 +0200 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Fedora blogs In-Reply-To: <13dbfe4f0606180735g499a266erf09e714fc242f3f6@mail.gmail.com> References: <1150639424.4175.20.camel@redhat> <13dbfe4f0606180709kb076e54ic1f9eb1a472cc578@mail.gmail.com> <1150640336.4175.26.camel@redhat> <13dbfe4f0606180735g499a266erf09e714fc242f3f6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1150641731.4175.30.camel@redhat> On 18-06-2006, sun at 16:35 +0200, Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: > On 6/18/06, Pawel Sadowski wrote: > > Yeah, something like that but not certainly. I mean "official" blogs on > > the Project's servers. But here is the problem - would we have enough > > resources to run something like that? > > so you might be looking for http://fedoranews.org/cms/FedoraBlogs Hmm, maybe, thanks anyway ;) But I have one question here - in my blog, I want to publish some ads - is it permitted there? Regards, Pawel Sadowski From chitlesh at fedoraproject.org Sun Jun 18 14:50:18 2006 From: chitlesh at fedoraproject.org (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 16:50:18 +0200 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Fedora blogs In-Reply-To: <1150641731.4175.30.camel@redhat> References: <1150639424.4175.20.camel@redhat> <13dbfe4f0606180709kb076e54ic1f9eb1a472cc578@mail.gmail.com> <1150640336.4175.26.camel@redhat> <13dbfe4f0606180735g499a266erf09e714fc242f3f6@mail.gmail.com> <1150641731.4175.30.camel@redhat> Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0606180750l556320c0s1e4467c423ff81e6@mail.gmail.com> On 6/18/06, Pawel Sadowski wrote: > Hmm, maybe, thanks anyway ;) But I have one question here - in my blog, > I want to publish some ads - is it permitted there? Not on the posts :) -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com From mcgiwer at fedoraproject.org Sun Jun 18 14:51:47 2006 From: mcgiwer at fedoraproject.org (Pawel Sadowski) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 16:51:47 +0200 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Fedora blogs In-Reply-To: <13dbfe4f0606180750l556320c0s1e4467c423ff81e6@mail.gmail.com> References: <1150639424.4175.20.camel@redhat> <13dbfe4f0606180709kb076e54ic1f9eb1a472cc578@mail.gmail.com> <1150640336.4175.26.camel@redhat> <13dbfe4f0606180735g499a266erf09e714fc242f3f6@mail.gmail.com> <1150641731.4175.30.camel@redhat> <13dbfe4f0606180750l556320c0s1e4467c423ff81e6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1150642307.4175.34.camel@redhat> On 18-06-2006, sun at 16:50 +0200, Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: > On 6/18/06, Pawel Sadowski wrote: > > Hmm, maybe, thanks anyway ;) But I have one question here - in my blog, > > I want to publish some ads - is it permitted there? > > Not on the posts :) Exactly :) I think I am looking for let's say other kind of a blog... Something like own page where you can place everything you want to, not just a journal ;) Thanks and regards, Pawel Sadowski From gerold at lugd.org Sun Jun 18 15:21:34 2006 From: gerold at lugd.org (Gerold Kassube) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 17:21:34 +0200 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Fedora blogs In-Reply-To: <1150642307.4175.34.camel@redhat> References: <1150639424.4175.20.camel@redhat> <13dbfe4f0606180709kb076e54ic1f9eb1a472cc578@mail.gmail.com> <1150640336.4175.26.camel@redhat> <13dbfe4f0606180735g499a266erf09e714fc242f3f6@mail.gmail.com> <1150641731.4175.30.camel@redhat> <13dbfe4f0606180750l556320c0s1e4467c423ff81e6@mail.gmail.com> <1150642307.4175.34.camel@redhat> Message-ID: <1150644095.2449.10.camel@FC5NB.homenet.local> but never forget what you're doing as an Ambassador ... You're presenting the complete FEDORA Community ... Please take care that in every breath you take that you don't breach the copyright(-S), legal, GPL or do something which is not allowed neither you'll do it as person (Pawel) nor as a Fedora Ambassador. Hope you understand what I want to say.... Regards Gerold Am Sonntag, den 18.06.2006, 16:51 +0200 schrieb Pawel Sadowski: > On 18-06-2006, sun at 16:50 +0200, Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: > > On 6/18/06, Pawel Sadowski wrote: > > > Hmm, maybe, thanks anyway ;) But I have one question here - in my blog, > > > I want to publish some ads - is it permitted there? > > > > Not on the posts :) > > Exactly :) I think I am looking for let's say other kind of a blog... > Something like own page where you can place everything you want to, not > just a journal ;) > > Thanks and regards, > Pawel Sadowski > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- Gerold Kassube -Vorstandsvorsitzender- Linux Usergroup L?rrach e.V. Marie-Curie-Strasse 8 79539 L?rrach _ ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) - against HTML email X & vCards / \ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I didn't mean something not allowed by law, just advertising something what is commercial (but Open Source). Anyway, I'm not sure whether something like that should be placed on, let's it call "official Ambassador's blog" - rather not ;) Regards, Pawel Sadowski From nman64 at n-man.com Mon Jun 19 01:47:08 2006 From: nman64 at n-man.com (Patrick W. Barnes) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 20:47:08 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Fedora blogs In-Reply-To: <1150667168.3850.2.camel@redhat> References: <1150639424.4175.20.camel@redhat> <1150644095.2449.10.camel@FC5NB.homenet.local> <1150667168.3850.2.camel@redhat> Message-ID: <200606182047.16270.nman64@n-man.com> On Sunday 18 June 2006 16:46, Pawel Sadowski wrote: > > I didn't mean something not allowed by law, just advertising something > what is commercial (but Open Source). Anyway, I'm not sure whether > something like that should be placed on, let's it call "official > Ambassador's blog" - rather not ;) > I'll think you'll find that very few other contributors would want to switch to an alternative blogging system. Most have already selected a place/technology to host their blogs and won't want to change. That said, there's also no real reason to host blogs within the Fedora Infrastructure. Fedora People works well to bring contributor blogs together. As for posting advertising in your blog posts, that certainly wouldn't be permitted if your blog were hosted on Fedora servers. I think you'll find that tolerance for advertising in blogs is very limited, no matter what the advertising is for. -- Patrick "The N-Man" Barnes nman64 at n-man.com http://www.n-man.com/ LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/nman64 Have I been helpful? 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That said, > there's also no real reason to host blogs within the Fedora Infrastructure. > Fedora People works well to bring contributor blogs together. > > As for posting advertising in your blog posts, that certainly wouldn't be > permitted if your blog were hosted on Fedora servers. I think you'll find > that tolerance for advertising in blogs is very limited, no matter what the > advertising is for. You're right, Patrick. It was stupid idea, but it's always worth to give it for the public review :) Regards, Pawel Sadowski From nman64 at n-man.com Mon Jun 19 19:10:06 2006 From: nman64 at n-man.com (Patrick W. Barnes) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 14:10:06 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Fedora blogs In-Reply-To: <1150740723.3833.1.camel@redhat> References: <1150639424.4175.20.camel@redhat> <200606182047.16270.nman64@n-man.com> <1150740723.3833.1.camel@redhat> Message-ID: <200606191410.08767.nman64@n-man.com> On Monday 19 June 2006 13:12, Pawel Sadowski wrote: > On 18-06-2006, sun at 20:47 -0500, Patrick W. Barnes wrote: > > You're right, Patrick. It was stupid idea, but it's always worth to give > it for the public review :) > No idea is stupid. It's what you do with it that matters. If you discount a new idea too quickly, a genius idea might end up quickly forgotten. -- Patrick "The N-Man" Barnes nman64 at n-man.com http://www.n-man.com/ LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/nman64 Have I been helpful? Rate my assistance! http://rate.affero.net/nman64/ -- -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From dimitris at glezos.com Mon Jun 19 23:24:31 2006 From: dimitris at glezos.com (Dimitris Glezos) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 00:24:31 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Fedora blogs In-Reply-To: <200606182047.16270.nman64@n-man.com> References: <1150639424.4175.20.camel@redhat> <1150644095.2449.10.camel@FC5NB.homenet.local> <1150667168.3850.2.camel@redhat> <200606182047.16270.nman64@n-man.com> Message-ID: <4497322F.2010304@glezos.com> O/H Patrick W. Barnes ??????: > I'll think you'll find that very few other contributors would want to switch > to an alternative blogging system. Most have already selected a > place/technology to host their blogs and won't want to change. This probably is true for contributors that already have a blogging system. On the other hand, there are contributors that don't have a blog hosted somewhere. Some of them would probably consider creating one if there was something like a fedora blog "home" (a Planet doesn't feel like home at all). This blogging "home" could urge people document more what they do about fedora. This exposure of one's work most times leads to more and higher-quality work, increased feedback, satisfaction and happiness (ask the fedora bloggers for confirmation ;). Consider for example the idea that every ambassador or fedora-docs member was offered a fedora blog and was urged to expose his/her actions. Given the above, I would reckon that the creation of such a "hive" [1], would probably make even already-established (eg livejournal-based) fedora bloggers want to join this village with an address like village.fedoraproject.org/johndoe, or johndoe.fedoravillage.org. (Of course, advertising is out of the question in such an environment...) -Dim (DimitrisGlezos) [1]: An example of such a system is wordpress.mu (multiuser), which powers wordpress.com. It is under development, but it does power some production sites. > That said, > there's also no real reason to host blogs within the Fedora Infrastructure. > Fedora People works well to bring contributor blogs together. > > As for posting advertising in your blog posts, that certainly wouldn't be > permitted if your blog were hosted on Fedora servers. I think you'll find > that tolerance for advertising in blogs is very limited, no matter what the > advertising is for. -- Dimitris Glezos Jabber ID: glezos at jabber.org, PGP: 0xA5A04C3B http://dimitris.glezos.com/ "He who gives up functionality for ease of use loses both and deserves neither." (Anonymous) -- From lxmaier at gmail.com Mon Jun 19 23:26:46 2006 From: lxmaier at gmail.com (Alex Maier) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 19:26:46 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Open Video Contest: please distribute! Message-ID: <7f617d270606191626t13f4a6c3k491a9c69ee36eff@mail.gmail.com> Folks, This just went on the wire. Please distribute as you see fit. A PDF version attached. Cheers, a CREATIVE COMMONS ANNOUNCES OPEN VIDEO CONTEST WITH THE FEDORA PROJECT San Francisco, USA - June 20, 2006 Creative Commons and the Fedora Project are pleased to announce the Open Video Contest taking place now. The contest promotes flexible copyright, open media formats and the Fedora Project. Entries must be 30 seconds or less, in OGG Theora format, promote freedom and openness, and be released under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 2.5 license. Visit http://creativecommons.org/video/openvideocontest/ before July 20, 2006 to enter. The contest will be judged by representatives of the Fedora Project and Red Hat, Creative Commons jurisdiction leads from Brazil, Nigeria, and Poland, and a representative of the Wikimedia Foundation Special Projects Committee. "This contest spreads the message that a combination of open licensing, open formats and open source software gives creators, consumers, and developers infinite freedom" says Alex Maier, Chair of Fedora Ambassadors Steering Committee. About OGG Theora Theora is an open, royalty-free video codec developed by the Xiph.org Foundation as part of the Ogg multimedia framework. Theora is released to the public under a BSD-style open source software license, completely free for commercial or noncommercial use. For more information about Theora visit http://theora.org. About the Fedora Project The Fedora Project is a Red Hat-sponsored and community-supported open source project. The goal? Work with the Linux community to build a complete, general purpose operating system exclusively from free software. Public forum. Rapid progress. Open process. A proving ground for new technology that may eventually make its way into Red Hat products. Fedora Core is an operating system and platform, based on Linux, that is always free for anyone to use, modify and distribute, now and forever. It is developed by a large community of people who strive to provide and maintain the very best in free, open source software and standards. About Creative Commons Creative Commons is a nonprofit organization that promotes the creative re-use of intellectual and artistic works ? whether owned or in the public domain. Creative Commons licenses provide a flexible range of protections and freedoms that build upon the "all rights reserved" concept of traditional copyright to offer a voluntary "some rights reserved" approach. Creative Commons is sustained by the generous support of various foundations including the John D. and Catherine T. MacArthur Foundation, the Omidyar Network Fund, the Hewlett Foundation, and the Rockefeller Foundation, as well as members of the public. For more information about Creative Commons, visit the organization's Web site (http://creativecommons.org/). Contact Eric Steuer Creative Director, Creative Commons eric at creativecommons.org Press Kit http://creativecommons.org/presskit -- Check out the new content on Fedora Project page! http://fedoraproject.org -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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What we can do at some point is for example, me, my blog on FedoraNews is http://fedoranews.org/cms/blog/33 instead of number 33 we can have my name. That would be somehow appropriate to your example. > (Of course, advertising is out of the question in such an environment...) > True. -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com From tchung at fedoraproject.org Tue Jun 20 07:44:31 2006 From: tchung at fedoraproject.org (Thomas Chung) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 00:44:31 -0700 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Fedora blogs In-Reply-To: <13dbfe4f0606200027s4c9796e4sa141e95448924c3d@mail.gmail.com> References: <1150639424.4175.20.camel@redhat> <1150644095.2449.10.camel@FC5NB.homenet.local> <1150667168.3850.2.camel@redhat> <200606182047.16270.nman64@n-man.com> <4497322F.2010304@glezos.com> <13dbfe4f0606200027s4c9796e4sa141e95448924c3d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <369bce3b0606200044s7ae13e88i59ec35b66f7ba4cf@mail.gmail.com> On 6/20/06, Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: > On 6/20/06, Dimitris Glezos wrote: > > Given the above, I would reckon that the creation of such a "hive" [1], > > would probably make even already-established (eg livejournal-based) > > fedora bloggers want to join this village with an address like > > village.fedoraproject.org/johndoe, or johndoe.fedoravillage.org. > > > > We already have a mechanism on ThomasChung's Fedoranews. > > What we can do at some point is for example, me, > > my blog on FedoraNews is > http://fedoranews.org/cms/blog/33 > > instead of number 33 we can have my name. Here your URL Aliase. :) http://fedoranews.org/cms/blog/ChitleshGoorah -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung From chitlesh at fedoraproject.org Tue Jun 20 07:53:15 2006 From: chitlesh at fedoraproject.org (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 09:53:15 +0200 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Fedora blogs In-Reply-To: <369bce3b0606200044s7ae13e88i59ec35b66f7ba4cf@mail.gmail.com> References: <1150639424.4175.20.camel@redhat> <1150644095.2449.10.camel@FC5NB.homenet.local> <1150667168.3850.2.camel@redhat> <200606182047.16270.nman64@n-man.com> <4497322F.2010304@glezos.com> <13dbfe4f0606200027s4c9796e4sa141e95448924c3d@mail.gmail.com> <369bce3b0606200044s7ae13e88i59ec35b66f7ba4cf@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0606200053x10922680s70bab37dff8a94a2@mail.gmail.com> On 6/20/06, Thomas Chung wrote: > Here your URL Aliase. :) > http://fedoranews.org/cms/blog/ChitleshGoorah Oh cool, maybe that was what other are looking for :) -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com From lxmaier at gmail.com Tue Jun 20 17:33:02 2006 From: lxmaier at gmail.com (Alex Maier) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 13:33:02 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Thomas Chung elected Vice-Chair of FAMSCO Message-ID: <7f617d270606201033ma731e6bn22f0d5f78fd5688d@mail.gmail.com> Please join me in congratulating Thomas Chung to his election to vice-chairmanship of the Fedora Ambassadors Steering Committee. In the months past, Thomas has been doing a great job keeping our project on track and organized, by keeping meeting notes, running our meetings, and maintaining project pages--all this in addition to his running of fedoranews.org, AND his day job! Kudos to Thomas for his commitment and his hard work! Thank you, Alex -- Check out the new content on Fedora Project page! http://fedoraproject.org From lxmaier at gmail.com Tue Jun 20 17:36:18 2006 From: lxmaier at gmail.com (Alex Maier) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 13:36:18 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Ambassadors Recognition Award--Nominations please Message-ID: <7f617d270606201036i30050e95kf348542db0886bb6@mail.gmail.com> It has been over 3 months since our last round of Fedora Ambassadors Recognition Awards. The time has come again to recognize the leaders in our midst with a little present and a big round of applause. Please send your nominations to famsco-list at redhat.com. To see our previous winners, please visit: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Awards Thanks, Alex -- Check out the new content on Fedora Project page! http://fedoraproject.org From diaaradwan at gmail.com Tue Jun 20 18:12:04 2006 From: diaaradwan at gmail.com (Diaa Radwan) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 21:12:04 +0300 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Fedora blogs In-Reply-To: <369bce3b0606200044s7ae13e88i59ec35b66f7ba4cf@mail.gmail.com> References: <1150639424.4175.20.camel@redhat> <1150644095.2449.10.camel@FC5NB.homenet.local> <1150667168.3850.2.camel@redhat> <200606182047.16270.nman64@n-man.com> <4497322F.2010304@glezos.com> <13dbfe4f0606200027s4c9796e4sa141e95448924c3d@mail.gmail.com> <369bce3b0606200044s7ae13e88i59ec35b66f7ba4cf@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <44983A74.2010707@gmail.com> Thomas Chung wrote: > On 6/20/06, Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: >> On 6/20/06, Dimitris Glezos wrote: >> > Given the above, I would reckon that the creation of such a "hive" [1], >> > would probably make even already-established (eg livejournal-based) >> > fedora bloggers want to join this village with an address like >> > village.fedoraproject.org/johndoe, or johndoe.fedoravillage.org. >> > >> >> We already have a mechanism on ThomasChung's Fedoranews. >> >> What we can do at some point is for example, me, >> >> my blog on FedoraNews is >> http://fedoranews.org/cms/blog/33 >> >> instead of number 33 we can have my name. > > Here your URL Aliase. :) > http://fedoranews.org/cms/blog/ChitleshGoorah Drupal rule them all :) . -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Whetsel RavenSong Open Technologies, Inc. 240-215-3944 www.ravensong.com Quoting Alex Maier : > Please join me in congratulating Thomas Chung to his election to > vice-chairmanship of the Fedora Ambassadors Steering Committee. > > In the months past, Thomas has been doing a great job keeping our > project on track and organized, by keeping meeting notes, running our > meetings, and maintaining project pages--all this in addition to his > running of fedoranews.org, AND his day job! > > Kudos to Thomas for his commitment and his hard work! > > Thank you, > Alex > > > -- > Check out the new content on Fedora Project page! http://fedoraproject.org > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > From diaaradwan at gmail.com Tue Jun 20 18:25:32 2006 From: diaaradwan at gmail.com (Diaa Radwan) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 21:25:32 +0300 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Fedora blogs In-Reply-To: <369bce3b0606200044s7ae13e88i59ec35b66f7ba4cf@mail.gmail.com> References: <1150639424.4175.20.camel@redhat> <1150644095.2449.10.camel@FC5NB.homenet.local> <1150667168.3850.2.camel@redhat> <200606182047.16270.nman64@n-man.com> <4497322F.2010304@glezos.com> <13dbfe4f0606200027s4c9796e4sa141e95448924c3d@mail.gmail.com> <369bce3b0606200044s7ae13e88i59ec35b66f7ba4cf@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <44983D9C.5080601@gmail.com> Thomas Chung wrote: > On 6/20/06, Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: >> On 6/20/06, Dimitris Glezos wrote: >> > Given the above, I would reckon that the creation of such a "hive" [1], >> > would probably make even already-established (eg livejournal-based) >> > fedora bloggers want to join this village with an address like >> > village.fedoraproject.org/johndoe, or johndoe.fedoravillage.org. >> > >> >> We already have a mechanism on ThomasChung's Fedoranews. >> >> What we can do at some point is for example, me, >> >> my blog on FedoraNews is >> http://fedoranews.org/cms/blog/33 >> >> instead of number 33 we can have my name. > > Here your URL Aliase. :) > http://fedoranews.org/cms/blog/ChitleshGoorah Drupal is great CMS . -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Yay !! party time :) - -- You see things; and you say 'Why?'; But I dream things that never were; and I say 'Why not?' - George Bernard Shaw -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFEmEBaXQZpNTcrCzMRAlpMAKCpgOPUl36EiaAyZHW3ecVc/pn5BwCdHvJC +DLPVy7aY7dWhKCkC2Z7UNw= =pL5m -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From fhornain at gmail.com Tue Jun 20 18:33:32 2006 From: fhornain at gmail.com (Frederic Hornain) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 20:33:32 +0200 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Belgian Fedora Activities Message-ID: <3161376e0606201133v1e374790r4054097dcf9aab71@mail.gmail.com> Dear *, I know I am not often on the list neither on the IRC but : - talk about Fedora and Linux to people - go to Linux events. - convince managers, and IT staff - explain my experiences with Open Source. - explain what is Fedora and how to use it to students. - do not loose good friendly relations to people who are part of the project - and so on... takes time. And I am pretty sure you know what I mean. However and you are right. You have to know what have been done. For instance today, I went to the HP Linux and Open Source roadshow EMEA in Brussel. I met people who are members of the Fedora project community -development part - who did not know a Fedora Community was present physically in Belgium. So I just invited them to join to the Community in our country. Cause electronique communication tools have their limitations. You know what I mean. It is more funny to chat, to share you experiences when you are phystically together than via network. I am pretty sure you agree with me. Even if it is working well via network. I met the Red Hat Regional Manager which help me to know belgian people are working on the Fedora Project. And then she have a point of contact with the Fedora Community of her country. We share experiences and so on... I met the manager of a Univesity and tell her that the Fedora Community could help her to organize Linux events for students. So on and so for..... It is just a win-win situation for Fedora, the Open Source community, Red Hat and myself. I beleive that I will stop for today cause I will risk to write a Linux novel "not novell :)". Rem : I have to recontact other Belgian Ambassadors. See you soon friends. If you have any remarks, questions, suggestions feel free to contact me. P.S. I am not writing that in order to have an award - see previous mail of Alex -. I am just writing that in order to be transparent opposite you - do not know if is correct :) but I hope you understand the meaning- and to share my Fedora Ambassador experience. Best Regards Fred Belgian Fedora Ambassador ----------------------------------------------------- Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lxmaier at gmail.com Tue Jun 20 18:39:32 2006 From: lxmaier at gmail.com (Alex Maier) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 14:39:32 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Belgian Fedora Activities In-Reply-To: <3161376e0606201133v1e374790r4054097dcf9aab71@mail.gmail.com> References: <3161376e0606201133v1e374790r4054097dcf9aab71@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <7f617d270606201139s6e23a742we0762f66079dadc8@mail.gmail.com> Thank you very much for this activity report Fred! This is exactly what we need to see more of on this list, so that all ambassadors, new and experienced, can take example and inspiration from each other. Thank you one more time, Alex On 6/20/06, Frederic Hornain wrote: > Dear *, > > I know I am not often on the list neither on the IRC but : > - talk about Fedora and Linux to people > - go to Linux events. > - convince managers, and IT staff > - explain my experiences with Open Source. > - explain what is Fedora and how to use it to students. > - do not loose good friendly relations to people who are part of the project > - and so on... > takes time. > And I am pretty sure you know what I mean. > > However and you are right. You have to know what have been done. > For instance today, > I went to the HP Linux and Open Source roadshow EMEA in Brussel. > I met people who are members of the Fedora project community -development > part - who did not know a Fedora Community > was present physically in Belgium. So I just invited them to join to the > Community in our country. > Cause electronique communication tools have their limitations. You know what > I mean. > It is more funny to chat, to share you experiences when you are phystically > together than via network. > I am pretty sure you agree with me. Even if it is working well via network. > I met the Red Hat Regional Manager which help me to know belgian people are > working on the Fedora Project. > And then she have a point of contact with the Fedora Community of her > country. > We share experiences and so on... > I met the manager of a Univesity and tell her that the Fedora Community > could help her to organize Linux events for students. > So on and so for..... > It is just a win-win situation for Fedora, the Open Source community, Red > Hat and myself. > > I beleive that I will stop for today cause I will risk to write a Linux > novel "not novell :)". > Rem : I have to recontact other Belgian Ambassadors. > > See you soon friends. > If you have any remarks, questions, suggestions feel free to contact me. > > P.S. I am not writing that in order to have an award - see previous mail of > Alex -. > I am just writing that in order to be transparent opposite you - do not know > if is correct :) but I hope you understand the meaning- and to share my > Fedora Ambassador experience. > > Best Regards > Fred > Belgian Fedora Ambassador > > ----------------------------------------------------- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > -- Check out the new content on Fedora Project page! http://fedoraproject.org From thomas.canniot at laposte.net Tue Jun 20 18:54:24 2006 From: thomas.canniot at laposte.net (Thomas Canniot) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 20:54:24 +0200 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Thomas Chung elected Vice-Chair of FAMSCO In-Reply-To: <7f617d270606201033ma731e6bn22f0d5f78fd5688d@mail.gmail.com> References: <7f617d270606201033ma731e6bn22f0d5f78fd5688d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1150829665.25747.29.camel@MrTomLinux.workstation> Le mardi 20 juin 2006 ? 13:33 -0400, Alex Maier a ?crit : > Please join me in congratulating Thomas Chung to his election to > vice-chairmanship of the Fedora Ambassadors Steering Committee. > > In the months past, Thomas has been doing a great job keeping our > project on track and organized, by keeping meeting notes, running our > meetings, and maintaining project pages--all this in addition to his > running of fedoranews.org, AND his day job! > > Kudos to Thomas for his commitment and his hard work! > > Thank you, > Alex > Congratulations Thomas ! 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Unfortunately, I will not have any DVDs containting Fedora Core, but I will offer downloading and burning on somebody's DVD - oh I have just figured out a great idea! - I will have a Fedora ISO image and if someone will wanna try Fedora, I will be able to burn it just after a speech ;) I will report you as it went tomorrow :) Regards, Pawel Sadowski From dimitris at glezos.com Tue Jun 20 20:09:33 2006 From: dimitris at glezos.com (Dimitris Glezos) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 21:09:33 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Thomas Chung elected Vice-Chair of FAMSCO In-Reply-To: <7f617d270606201033ma731e6bn22f0d5f78fd5688d@mail.gmail.com> References: <7f617d270606201033ma731e6bn22f0d5f78fd5688d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <449855FD.9000002@glezos.com> O/H Alex Maier ??????: > Please join me in congratulating Thomas Chung to his election to > vice-chairmanship of the Fedora Ambassadors Steering Committee. Hurray !! ???? !! -- Dimitris Glezos Jabber ID: glezos at jabber.org, PGP: 0xA5A04C3B http://dimitris.glezos.com/ "He who gives up functionality for ease of use loses both and deserves neither." (Anonymous) -- From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Tue Jun 20 20:16:07 2006 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 01:46:07 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Thomas Chung elected Vice-Chair of FAMSCO In-Reply-To: <7f617d270606201033ma731e6bn22f0d5f78fd5688d@mail.gmail.com> References: <7f617d270606201033ma731e6bn22f0d5f78fd5688d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1150834567.20056.57.camel@sundaram.pnq.redhat.com> On Tue, 2006-06-20 at 13:33 -0400, Alex Maier wrote: > Please join me in congratulating Thomas Chung to his election to > vice-chairmanship of the Fedora Ambassadors Steering Committee. > > In the months past, Thomas has been doing a great job keeping our > project on track and organized, by keeping meeting notes, running our > meetings, and maintaining project pages--all this in addition to his > running of fedoranews.org, AND his day job! > > Kudos to Thomas for his commitment and his hard work! Congrats Thomas. We have a long standing tradition of appreciating volunteers doing loads of work in Fedora by giving them even more work to do ;-) Rahul From lxmaier at gmail.com Tue Jun 20 20:30:57 2006 From: lxmaier at gmail.com (Alex Maier) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 16:30:57 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Speech at school In-Reply-To: <1150830176.5326.17.camel@redhat> References: <1150830176.5326.17.camel@redhat> Message-ID: <7f617d270606201330s1d08dc53o6d820cd175bb65a1@mail.gmail.com> Pawel, This is great--and the idea with burning the DVDs after the speech is awesome! Cheers, a On 6/20/06, Pawel Sadowski wrote: > Hi, > > I am pleased to announce that tomorrow I will have a speech (maybe more > than one) in my school. The topics will be generally about Open Source, > Fedora Project and also a little bit of a commercial Open Source aspect. > I am just going to finish reading my mailbox and for printing some > leaflets to post up it on the schools bulletin-board. I hope I will > convince some people to try Fedora. Unfortunately, I will not have any > DVDs containting Fedora Core, but I will offer downloading and burning > on somebody's DVD - oh I have just figured out a great idea! - I will > have a Fedora ISO image and if someone will wanna try Fedora, I will be > able to burn it just after a speech ;) I will report you as it went > tomorrow :) > > Regards, > Pawel Sadowski > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- Check out the new content on Fedora Project page! http://fedoraproject.org From mcgiwer at fedoraproject.org Tue Jun 20 20:45:20 2006 From: mcgiwer at fedoraproject.org (Pawel Sadowski) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 22:45:20 +0200 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Thomas Chung elected Vice-Chair of FAMSCO In-Reply-To: <7f617d270606201033ma731e6bn22f0d5f78fd5688d@mail.gmail.com> References: <7f617d270606201033ma731e6bn22f0d5f78fd5688d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1150836320.5326.19.camel@redhat> On 20-06-2006, tue at 13:33 -0400, Alex Maier wrote: > Please join me in congratulating Thomas Chung to his election to > vice-chairmanship of the Fedora Ambassadors Steering Committee. > > In the months past, Thomas has been doing a great job keeping our > project on track and organized, by keeping meeting notes, running our > meetings, and maintaining project pages--all this in addition to his > running of fedoranews.org, AND his day job! > > Kudos to Thomas for his commitment and his hard work! > > Thank you, > Alex Congratulations Thomas! :) Cheers, Pawel From thomas.canniot at laposte.net Tue Jun 20 20:50:25 2006 From: thomas.canniot at laposte.net (Thomas Canniot) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 22:50:25 +0200 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Speech at school In-Reply-To: <7f617d270606201330s1d08dc53o6d820cd175bb65a1@mail.gmail.com> References: <1150830176.5326.17.camel@redhat> <7f617d270606201330s1d08dc53o6d820cd175bb65a1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1150836625.25747.44.camel@MrTomLinux.workstation> Le mardi 20 juin 2006 ? 16:30 -0400, Alex Maier a ?crit : > Pawel, > This is great--and the idea with burning the DVDs after the speech is awesome! > > Cheers, > a Let's call it : Burn On Demand Maybe it could be a way for famsco to save extras money on DVD for small events. Instead of buying DVDs on the store (and getting reimbursed) or getting them for free form famsco, we buy 50 blank dvds for example, burn them demand with paper/palstik cases. Then we send the bill to famsco saying how many DVD and cases we used, and got reimbursed. Regards, > > On 6/20/06, Pawel Sadowski wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I am pleased to announce that tomorrow I will have a speech (maybe more > > than one) in my school. The topics will be generally about Open Source, > > Fedora Project and also a little bit of a commercial Open Source aspect. > > I am just going to finish reading my mailbox and for printing some > > leaflets to post up it on the schools bulletin-board. I hope I will > > convince some people to try Fedora. Unfortunately, I will not have any > > DVDs containting Fedora Core, but I will offer downloading and burning > > on somebody's DVD - oh I have just figured out a great idea! - I will > > have a Fedora ISO image and if someone will wanna try Fedora, I will be > > able to burn it just after a speech ;) I will report you as it went > > tomorrow :) > > > > Regards, > > Pawel Sadowski > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > -- Thomas Canniot http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasCanniot -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Instead of buying DVDs on the store (and getting reimbursed) or > getting them for free form famsco, we buy 50 blank dvds for example, > burn them demand with paper/palstik cases. Then we send the bill to > famsco saying how many DVD and cases we used, and got reimbursed. From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Tue Jun 20 20:56:55 2006 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 02:26:55 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Speech at school In-Reply-To: <1150836625.25747.44.camel@MrTomLinux.workstation> References: <1150830176.5326.17.camel@redhat> <7f617d270606201330s1d08dc53o6d820cd175bb65a1@mail.gmail.com> <1150836625.25747.44.camel@MrTomLinux.workstation> Message-ID: <1150837015.20056.59.camel@sundaram.pnq.redhat.com> On Tue, 2006-06-20 at 22:50 +0200, Thomas Canniot wrote: > Le mardi 20 juin 2006 ? 16:30 -0400, Alex Maier a ?crit : > > Pawel, > > This is great--and the idea with burning the DVDs after the speech is awesome! > > > > Cheers, > > a > > Let's call it : Burn On Demand > > Maybe it could be a way for famsco to save extras money on DVD for small > events. Instead of buying DVDs on the store (and getting reimbursed) or > getting them for free form famsco, we buy 50 blank dvds for example, > burn them demand with paper/palstik cases. Then we send the bill to > famsco saying how many DVD and cases we used, and got reimbursed. Anything that avoids the shipment and redistribution costs would be a good thing for the ambassadors budget. Rahul From lxmaier at gmail.com Tue Jun 20 21:22:33 2006 From: lxmaier at gmail.com (Alex Maier) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 17:22:33 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Speech at school In-Reply-To: <1150837015.20056.59.camel@sundaram.pnq.redhat.com> References: <1150830176.5326.17.camel@redhat> <7f617d270606201330s1d08dc53o6d820cd175bb65a1@mail.gmail.com> <1150836625.25747.44.camel@MrTomLinux.workstation> <1150837015.20056.59.camel@sundaram.pnq.redhat.com> Message-ID: <7f617d270606201422i167b9dfeqf8ef6dc08dbb82b1@mail.gmail.com> Indeed, it is much preferable to have the DVDs/CDs produced locally and reimburse the Ambassadors for the actual cost incurred, using PayPal. Even if you need more than just a few dozen copies, consider going to a local copy shop and having them burn your DVDs/CDs for you. They will be able to print our logo on the front of the media, and even give you pretty sleeves--all of which will cost us WAY less than ship US-produced media worldwide. Also, please consider getting in touch with the vendors off of these lists: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution/OnlineVendors http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution/LocalVendors These guys can probably help you with production. Cheers, a On 6/20/06, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On Tue, 2006-06-20 at 22:50 +0200, Thomas Canniot wrote: > > Le mardi 20 juin 2006 ? 16:30 -0400, Alex Maier a ?crit : > > > Pawel, > > > This is great--and the idea with burning the DVDs after the speech is awesome! > > > > > > Cheers, > > > a > > > > Let's call it : Burn On Demand > > > > Maybe it could be a way for famsco to save extras money on DVD for small > > events. Instead of buying DVDs on the store (and getting reimbursed) or > > getting them for free form famsco, we buy 50 blank dvds for example, > > burn them demand with paper/palstik cases. Then we send the bill to > > famsco saying how many DVD and cases we used, and got reimbursed. > > Anything that avoids the shipment and redistribution costs would be a > good thing for the ambassadors budget. > > Rahul > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- Check out the new content on Fedora Project page! http://fedoraproject.org From mcgiwer at fedoraproject.org Tue Jun 20 21:27:43 2006 From: mcgiwer at fedoraproject.org (Pawel Sadowski) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 23:27:43 +0200 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Speech at school In-Reply-To: <7f617d270606201422i167b9dfeqf8ef6dc08dbb82b1@mail.gmail.com> References: <1150830176.5326.17.camel@redhat> <7f617d270606201330s1d08dc53o6d820cd175bb65a1@mail.gmail.com> <1150836625.25747.44.camel@MrTomLinux.workstation> <1150837015.20056.59.camel@sundaram.pnq.redhat.com> <7f617d270606201422i167b9dfeqf8ef6dc08dbb82b1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1150838863.5326.26.camel@redhat> I was already thinking about something like that. I think I will use it when I will need a lot of DVDs on autumn :) Cheers, Pawel On 20-06-2006, tue at 17:22 -0400, Alex Maier wrote: > Indeed, it is much preferable to have the DVDs/CDs produced locally > and reimburse the Ambassadors for the actual cost incurred, using > PayPal. > > Even if you need more than just a few dozen copies, consider going to > a local copy shop and having them burn your DVDs/CDs for you. They > will be able to print our logo on the front of the media, and even > give you pretty sleeves--all of which will cost us WAY less than ship > US-produced media worldwide. > > Also, please consider getting in touch with the vendors off of these lists: > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution/OnlineVendors > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution/LocalVendors > These guys can probably help you with production. > > Cheers, > a > > On 6/20/06, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > > On Tue, 2006-06-20 at 22:50 +0200, Thomas Canniot wrote: > > > Le mardi 20 juin 2006 ? 16:30 -0400, Alex Maier a ?crit : > > > > Pawel, > > > > This is great--and the idea with burning the DVDs after the speech is awesome! > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > a > > > > > > Let's call it : Burn On Demand > > > > > > Maybe it could be a way for famsco to save extras money on DVD for small > > > events. Instead of buying DVDs on the store (and getting reimbursed) or > > > getting them for free form famsco, we buy 50 blank dvds for example, > > > burn them demand with paper/palstik cases. Then we send the bill to > > > famsco saying how many DVD and cases we used, and got reimbursed. > > > > Anything that avoids the shipment and redistribution costs would be a > > good thing for the ambassadors budget. > > > > Rahul > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Tue Jun 20 22:03:54 2006 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 03:33:54 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Open Video Contest: please distribute! In-Reply-To: <7f617d270606191626t13f4a6c3k491a9c69ee36eff@mail.gmail.com> References: <7f617d270606191626t13f4a6c3k491a9c69ee36eff@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1150841034.20056.65.camel@sundaram.pnq.redhat.com> On Mon, 2006-06-19 at 19:26 -0400, Alex Maier wrote: > Folks, > > This just went on the wire. Please distribute as you see fit. A PDF > version attached. > Cheers, > a Alex, Can you send a copy over to fedora-announce list? Rahul From lxmaier at gmail.com Tue Jun 20 22:09:38 2006 From: lxmaier at gmail.com (Alex Maier) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 18:09:38 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Open Video Contest: please distribute! In-Reply-To: <1150841034.20056.65.camel@sundaram.pnq.redhat.com> References: <7f617d270606191626t13f4a6c3k491a9c69ee36eff@mail.gmail.com> <1150841034.20056.65.camel@sundaram.pnq.redhat.com> Message-ID: <7f617d270606201509l7feae770u920ed9e61222eefc@mail.gmail.com> I have, it is still pending moderator approval. If you can post to that list, please feel free to send it there. Thanks, a On 6/20/06, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On Mon, 2006-06-19 at 19:26 -0400, Alex Maier wrote: > > Folks, > > > > This just went on the wire. Please distribute as you see fit. A PDF > > version attached. > > Cheers, > > a > > Alex, > > Can you send a copy over to fedora-announce list? > > Rahul > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- Check out the new content on Fedora Project page! http://fedoraproject.org From stanfinley at comcast.net Tue Jun 20 22:58:52 2006 From: stanfinley at comcast.net (Stanton Finley) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 16:58:52 -0600 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Thomas Chung elected Vice-Chair of FAMSCO In-Reply-To: <7f617d270606201033ma731e6bn22f0d5f78fd5688d@mail.gmail.com> References: <7f617d270606201033ma731e6bn22f0d5f78fd5688d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1150844332.3116.0.camel@c-67-177-54-159.hsd1.ut.comcast.net> On Tue, 2006-06-20 at 13:33 -0400, Alex Maier wrote: > Please join me in congratulating Thomas Chung to his election to > vice-chairmanship of the Fedora Ambassadors Steering Committee. > > In the months past, Thomas has been doing a great job keeping our > project on track and organized, by keeping meeting notes, running our > meetings, and maintaining project pages--all this in addition to his > running of fedoranews.org, AND his day job! > > Kudos to Thomas for his commitment and his hard work! > > Thank you, > Alex > > Congratulations Thomas. -- Stanton Finley http://stanton-finley.net/ From marc.w at smlintl.com.au Wed Jun 21 03:21:12 2006 From: marc.w at smlintl.com.au (Marc Wiriadisastra) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 11:21:12 +0800 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Thomas Chung elected Vice-Chair of FAMSCO In-Reply-To: <7f617d270606201033ma731e6bn22f0d5f78fd5688d@mail.gmail.com> References: <7f617d270606201033ma731e6bn22f0d5f78fd5688d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1150860072.11274.18.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Tue, 2006-06-20 at 13:33 -0400, Alex Maier wrote: > Please join me in congratulating Thomas Chung to his election to > vice-chairmanship of the Fedora Ambassadors Steering Committee. > > In the months past, Thomas has been doing a great job keeping our > project on track and organized, by keeping meeting notes, running our > meetings, and maintaining project pages--all this in addition to his > running of fedoranews.org, AND his day job! > > Kudos to Thomas for his commitment and his hard work! > > Thank you, > Alex > > Congrats Thomas for all the effort. I know you have been an immense help for me :) Regards, Marc From caseyjones at runbox.com Wed Jun 21 03:57:28 2006 From: caseyjones at runbox.com (Casey Jones) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 23:57:28 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Just saying hi to all! Message-ID: All, This is my first time writing to the group as I just joined a few days ago. Mr. Chung was very patient in helping me get started. So, I want to thank him again! I am a network administrator and systems security analyst. My company's major clients are big government organizations. My goal in joining the group is to gain as much information as I can to help spread the word about Fedora in particular and open source in general to the clients I work with. My clients are rapidly adopting open source as a viable alternative to expensive closed-source platforms. But, much ground still needs to be covered. Also, I work on the side doing small business network installs. Up until about 5 years ago, I only installed MS products, but now ALL I offer to work with is Fedora-based solutions. I'm hesitant to take on a new client if they aren't willing to give Fedora a fair try. So, that's pretty much it in a nutshell. Thank you for allowing me to join this very exciting team. I look forward to contributing any way I can! Cheers! From kushaldas at gmail.com Wed Jun 21 04:56:05 2006 From: kushaldas at gmail.com (Kushal Das) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 10:26:05 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Thomas Chung elected Vice-Chair of FAMSCO In-Reply-To: <7f617d270606201033ma731e6bn22f0d5f78fd5688d@mail.gmail.com> References: <7f617d270606201033ma731e6bn22f0d5f78fd5688d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200606211026.14222.kushaldas@gmail.com> On Tuesday 20 June 2006 23:03, Alex Maier wrote: > Please join me in congratulating Thomas Chung to his election to > vice-chairmanship of the Fedora Ambassadors Steering Committee. > > In the months past, Thomas has been doing a great job keeping our > project on track and organized, by keeping meeting notes, running our > meetings, and maintaining project pages--all this in addition to his > running of fedoranews.org, AND his day job! > > Kudos to Thomas for his commitment and his hard work! > > Thank you, > Alex Congratulations Thomas. :) Regards, Kushal -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Alex Maier wrote: > Please join me in congratulating Thomas Chung to his election to > vice-chairmanship of the Fedora Ambassadors Steering Committee. > > In the months past, Thomas has been doing a great job keeping our > project on track and organized, by keeping meeting notes, running our > meetings, and maintaining project pages--all this in addition to his > running of fedoranews.org, AND his day job! > > Kudos to Thomas for his commitment and his hard work! > > Thank you, > Alex > > -- Fedora Ambassador for Bangladesh From tchung at fedoraproject.org Wed Jun 21 05:58:46 2006 From: tchung at fedoraproject.org (Thomas Chung) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 22:58:46 -0700 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Just saying hi to all! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <369bce3b0606202258q12f87c64t4fbfcf5d95beb3f5@mail.gmail.com> On 6/20/06, Casey Jones wrote: > All, > > This is my first time writing to the group as I just joined a few days ago. Mr. Chung was very patient in helping me get started. So, I want to thank him again! > > I am a network administrator and systems security analyst. My company's major clients are big government organizations. > > My goal in joining the group is to gain as much information as I can to help spread the word about Fedora in particular and open source in general to the clients I work with. My clients are rapidly adopting open source as a viable alternative to expensive closed-source platforms. But, much ground still needs to be covered. > > Also, I work on the side doing small business network installs. Up until about 5 years ago, I only installed MS products, but now ALL I offer to work with is Fedora-based solutions. I'm hesitant to take on a new client if they aren't willing to give Fedora a fair try. > > So, that's pretty much it in a nutshell. Thank you for allowing me to join this very exciting team. I look forward to contributing any way I can! > > Cheers! Welcome aboard, Casey. :) Cheers! -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung From fhornain at gmail.com Wed Jun 21 15:29:24 2006 From: fhornain at gmail.com (Frederic Hornain) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 17:29:24 +0200 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] For all non Fedora Ambassadors but Fedora Project Members Message-ID: <3161376e0606210829x4e4071a5maf3b467d5044f506@mail.gmail.com> Dear all, Today again, I have met someone who are working for one of Fedora Projects. We talked about what he does on his project and if knew other people woking on Fedora. I said yes of course and even in our area. He was really surprized when I told him that other nice guys were also woking on Fedora close to him. Then he complain me also that no Physical Fedora Structure exists till now in my area. Ok I have to admit. However it is going to change. Unfortunatly, they are a lot of contributors who are doing something in their corner and nobody is knowing that this one or that one is also working on Fedora on different project close to us. It will be more funny if we could create local community in order to share experience, knowledge, etc... So I think in addition of our ambassador role we should be the point of contact for these guys in our country. I have started to do a kind of list but I would have need to have specific wiki page for this goal in order readable by everybody. You see what I mean. Something like "Ambassador by country" for all people working on Fedora and not exclusivly for Ambassador. Even if the wiki page "Ambassador by country" have his importance. Like, this for each country you will have a maintenor which help Fedora guys to know each others, permit to do the link with Red Hat, be the point of contact for a specific area. Tell me what you are thinking about that. And why not ? If you know somthing similar? 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See "Aims" on our wiki page: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors "Be a point of contact for local community members and channel the feedback to Fedora Project" Regards, -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung From jaboutboul at speakeasy.net Wed Jun 21 16:48:25 2006 From: jaboutboul at speakeasy.net (Jack Aboutboul) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 12:48:25 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Fedora Event Kit Message-ID: <1150908506.11065.252.camel@deepfort> Hey Everyone, As some of you already know, I have been working with Max for the past few weeks on the foundations of some initiatives which we hope will help us refine some of the processes and functions which Ambassadors currently carry out. I want to to use this email to introduce one of these initiatives in hopes of eliciting some good feedback to further refine these ideas. Let me start out by saying that currently, the main goal of these propositions is to facilitate more efficient, grass roots, and most importantly, independent participation by ambassadors. That is, we hope to use these changes as the building blocks of many more improvements, and we have decided to start here. The initiative I would first like to introduce is the Fedora Ambassadors Event Kit. As we all have learned by now, the cornerstone of the Ambassadors project has to do with events, and events are the single most effective vehicles for publicity and community gathering. The main problem with running events, however, is that thus far, most of the events we have carried out have been top down, rather than bottom up. By that I mean that the efforts, in large part, have come together with much oversight and involvement with Red Hat and that has caused some problems. Foremost, many ambassadors have complained about not being able to run an event independently and have waited for funds and other merchandise for days on end. Therefore, we have decided to streamline the event and merchandise acquisition process, and that's good news in more than one way. It means more control for ambassadors. The Fedora Ambassadors Event Kit consists of five sections, each of which is aimed at tackling one angle of event planning. The following is a description of each of the sections with a brief breakdown: Part 1. Welcome - This section is used to welcome both new and current ambassadors alike and thank them for choosing to run an event. This section briefly outlines some common foundation work which must be done before any event can take place, and how to go about building quality relationships, both within and without the community, which will serve many purposes in both present and future endeavors. Part 2. Optical Media Guide - The purpose of this section is one of the most significant changes in protocol for Ambassadors. This section outlines a new method for obtaining media, by which we empower and encourage Ambassadors to establish a relationship with local vendors. Local vendors are a better outlet for obtaining media since the overall cost is lower and the relationships established with these vendors will help us gain sponsorship for important initiatives, such as Free Media. Ambassadors will then be able to collect monetary donations in exchange for media at the event which will help recover costs and sponsor more free media. Part 3. Merchandise Guide - This section builds on the previous section and lays out guidelines similar to those in the optical media guide. Once again Ambassadors will be able to produce hats, shirts, mugs, etc. locally without much oversight. Many may complain about this new process, but there are reasons for this. Mainly, we would like to see ambassadors come up with localized designs for merchandise. Fedora is a global project and as such, it should be represented in precisely that way. Ambassadors again will be allowed to ask a donation in exchange for a merchandise so as to recover their costs. Part 4. Custom Design Approval - So you do want to come up with a localized design for a creative t-shirt, that's great!! All we ask is that you kindly submit your design for review, before we give you the go ahead. We have much trust in the Ambassadors, and doubt that anyone would come up with something in poor taste, however, from a legal perspective we must approve designs. (You obviously know someone is going to come up with a Fedora Kills OpenSuSe shirt, and that could be an issue.) Part 5. Accounting - Yes, it sucks, but we want to make this part of the process as easy as possible. The Ambassadors project wants to make sure that we do not leave anyone hanging with regarding to costs related to running an event. Therefore, we will include a simple grid sheet which will allow Ambassadors to fill in what costs were involved in running the event, how much money was recovered and what balance remains, if any. This will also allow us to isolate what elements of running the event are the costliest and how we can further help bring the costs down in those areas. Part 6. Extra Stuff - So what happens to the extra 20 shirts you have left? Rest assured that we are working non stop to finally put together a Fedora Stuff store which we will all be able to use. Until then, we will have some guidelines in this sections which can be followed, until a more formal decision is made. That's basically it right there. The Event Kit will be available both as a pdf downloadable from the wiki and as wiki pages themselves which will allow for editing. We would much appreciate as much feedback as possible. Does something here sound unbearable? Did you happen to fall in love with one of these ideas? Would you like to see something changed or improved? Time is wasting and we would like to have the event kit up within a few days at the latest, so now is your time to suggest or complain. You are an ambassador, let your voice be heard!! From nman64 at n-man.com Wed Jun 21 17:23:22 2006 From: nman64 at n-man.com (Patrick W. Barnes) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 12:23:22 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] For all non Fedora Ambassadors but Fedora Project Members In-Reply-To: <369bce3b0606210948i421cb06bu8d6d4a9a63b895f0@mail.gmail.com> References: <3161376e0606210829x4e4071a5maf3b467d5044f506@mail.gmail.com> <369bce3b0606210948i421cb06bu8d6d4a9a63b895f0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200606211223.28971.nman64@n-man.com> On Wednesday 21 June 2006 11:48, "Thomas Chung" wrote: > On 6/21/06, Frederic Hornain wrote: > >.. > > So I think in addition of our ambassador role we should be the point of > > contact for these guys in our country. > > I have started to do a kind of list but I would have need to have > > specific wiki page for this goal in order readable by everybody. > > You see what I mean. > > Well, we already *are* the point of contact. > See "Aims" on our wiki page: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors > "Be a point of contact for local community members and channel the > feedback to Fedora Project" You might also be interested in the Fedora Frappr group. http://www.frappr.com/fedora It isn't comprehensive, and includes many people who are users and not contributors, but will let people know where others who are interested in Fedora are located. -- Patrick "The N-Man" Barnes nman64 at n-man.com http://www.n-man.com/ LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/nman64 Have I been helpful? Rate my assistance! http://rate.affero.net/nman64/ -- -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From richard at tuttlemm.com Wed Jun 21 19:11:44 2006 From: richard at tuttlemm.com (Richard Tuttle) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 12:11:44 -0700 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Fedora Event Kit In-Reply-To: <1150908506.11065.252.camel@deepfort> References: <1150908506.11065.252.camel@deepfort> Message-ID: <449999F0.2040008@tuttlemm.com> I think this is a grand idea! Bravo! Richard Tuttle Jack Aboutboul wrote: > Hey Everyone, > > As some of you already know, I have been working with Max for the past > few weeks on the foundations of some initiatives which we hope will help > us refine some of the processes and functions which Ambassadors > currently carry out. I want to to use this email to introduce one of > these initiatives in hopes of eliciting some good feedback to further > refine these ideas. Let me start out by saying that currently, the main > goal of these propositions is to facilitate more efficient, grass roots, > and most importantly, independent participation by ambassadors. That > is, we hope to use these changes as the building blocks of many more > improvements, and we have decided to start here. > > The initiative I would first like to introduce is the Fedora Ambassadors > Event Kit. As we all have learned by now, the cornerstone of the > Ambassadors project has to do with events, and events are the single > most effective vehicles for publicity and community gathering. The > main problem with running events, however, is that thus far, most of the > events we have carried out have been top down, rather than bottom up. > By that I mean that the efforts, in large part, have come together with > much oversight and involvement with Red Hat and that has caused some > problems. Foremost, many ambassadors have complained about not being > able to run an event independently and have waited for funds and other > merchandise for days on end. Therefore, we have decided to streamline > the event and merchandise acquisition process, and that's good news in > more than one way. It means more control for ambassadors. > > The Fedora Ambassadors Event Kit consists of five sections, each of > which is aimed at tackling one angle of event planning. The following > is a description of each of the sections with a brief breakdown: > > Part 1. Welcome - This section is used to welcome both new and current > ambassadors alike and thank them for choosing to run an event. This > section briefly outlines some common foundation work which must be done > before any event can take place, and how to go about building quality > relationships, both within and without the community, which will serve > many purposes in both present and future endeavors. > > Part 2. Optical Media Guide - The purpose of this section is one of the > most significant changes in protocol for Ambassadors. This section > outlines a new method for obtaining media, by which we empower and > encourage Ambassadors to establish a relationship with local vendors. > Local vendors are a better outlet for obtaining media since the overall > cost is lower and the relationships established with these vendors will > help us gain sponsorship for important initiatives, such as Free Media. > Ambassadors will then be able to collect monetary donations in exchange > for media at the event which will help recover costs and sponsor more > free media. > > Part 3. Merchandise Guide - This section builds on the previous section > and lays out guidelines similar to those in the optical media guide. > Once again Ambassadors will be able to produce hats, shirts, mugs, etc. > locally without much oversight. Many may complain about this new > process, but there are reasons for this. Mainly, we would like to see > ambassadors come up with localized designs for merchandise. Fedora is a > global project and as such, it should be represented in precisely that > way. Ambassadors again will be allowed to ask a donation in exchange > for a merchandise so as to recover their costs. > > Part 4. Custom Design Approval - So you do want to come up with a > localized design for a creative t-shirt, that's great!! All we ask is > that you kindly submit your design for review, before we give you the go > ahead. We have much trust in the Ambassadors, and doubt that anyone > would come up with something in poor taste, however, from a legal > perspective we must approve designs. (You obviously know someone is > going to come up with a Fedora Kills OpenSuSe shirt, and that could be > an issue.) > > Part 5. Accounting - Yes, it sucks, but we want to make this part of the > process as easy as possible. The Ambassadors project wants to make sure > that we do not leave anyone hanging with regarding to costs related to > running an event. Therefore, we will include a simple grid sheet which > will allow Ambassadors to fill in what costs were involved in running > the event, how much money was recovered and what balance remains, if > any. This will also allow us to isolate what elements of running the > event are the costliest and how we can further help bring the costs down > in those areas. > > Part 6. Extra Stuff - So what happens to the extra 20 shirts you have > left? Rest assured that we are working non stop to finally put together > a Fedora Stuff store which we will all be able to use. Until then, we > will have some guidelines in this sections which can be followed, until > a more formal decision is made. > > That's basically it right there. The Event Kit will be available both as > a pdf downloadable from the wiki and as wiki pages themselves which will > allow for editing. We would much appreciate as much feedback as > possible. Does something here sound unbearable? Did you happen to fall > in love with one of these ideas? Would you like to see something > changed or improved? Time is wasting and we would like to have the > event kit up within a few days at the latest, so now is your time to > suggest or complain. > > You are an ambassador, let your voice be heard!! > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > From tchung at fedoraproject.org Thu Jun 22 02:49:30 2006 From: tchung at fedoraproject.org (Thomas Chung) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 19:49:30 -0700 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Weekly Reminder for Fedora Ambassadors Message-ID: <369bce3b0606211949n746e4df6rdd7e31aeda593828@mail.gmail.com> This is your Weekly Reminder for Fedora Ambassadors. Fedora Ambassadors Meeting will be held on 2006-06-22 14:00 UTC http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings Also everyone in Fedora Ambassadors Program should sign CLA and join 'ambassadors' group in your Fedora Account System. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/AccountSystemHowTo Regards, -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung From fhornain at gmail.com Thu Jun 22 05:28:42 2006 From: fhornain at gmail.com (Frederic Hornain) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 07:28:42 +0200 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] For all non Fedora Ambassadors but Fedora Project Members In-Reply-To: <200606211223.28971.nman64@n-man.com> References: <3161376e0606210829x4e4071a5maf3b467d5044f506@mail.gmail.com> <369bce3b0606210948i421cb06bu8d6d4a9a63b895f0@mail.gmail.com> <200606211223.28971.nman64@n-man.com> Message-ID: <3161376e0606212228w2998f537h5b57e895243da3e@mail.gmail.com> Hello, I have missed that point. Sorry for that. Best Regards Fred On 6/21/06, Patrick W. Barnes wrote: > > On Wednesday 21 June 2006 11:48, "Thomas Chung" > wrote: > > On 6/21/06, Frederic Hornain wrote: > > >.. > > > So I think in addition of our ambassador role we should be the point > of > > > contact for these guys in our country. > > > I have started to do a kind of list but I would have need to have > > > specific wiki page for this goal in order readable by everybody. > > > You see what I mean. > > > > Well, we already *are* the point of contact. > > See "Aims" on our wiki page: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors > > "Be a point of contact for local community members and channel the > > feedback to Fedora Project" > > You might also be interested in the Fedora Frappr group. > > http://www.frappr.com/fedora > > It isn't comprehensive, and includes many people who are users and not > contributors, but will let people know where others who are interested in > Fedora are located. > > -- > Patrick "The N-Man" Barnes > nman64 at n-man.com > > http://www.n-man.com/ > > LinkedIn: > http://www.linkedin.com/in/nman64 > > Have I been helpful? 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Regards, Pawel Sadowski From fhornain at gmail.com Thu Jun 22 14:48:57 2006 From: fhornain at gmail.com (Frederic Hornain) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 16:48:57 +0200 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] For all non Fedora Ambassadors but Fedora Project Members In-Reply-To: <3161376e0606212228w2998f537h5b57e895243da3e@mail.gmail.com> References: <3161376e0606210829x4e4071a5maf3b467d5044f506@mail.gmail.com> <369bce3b0606210948i421cb06bu8d6d4a9a63b895f0@mail.gmail.com> <200606211223.28971.nman64@n-man.com> <3161376e0606212228w2998f537h5b57e895243da3e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <3161376e0606220748h6df55581ya41930e647f9cf3d@mail.gmail.com> Hi again, Well, even if http://www.frappr.com/fedora exists I really thinks that a wiki page associated to a specific area and maintained by an or several ambassadors could be a plus. A page which Fedora peolple can refer in order to find information linked to their area like meet'up, official events, non official events. A sort of Liniked In for communauty for a specific region. Cause with frappr, you can have people who are not interseted to be a part of a kind of user group. Well, I know it is little bit confuse but I ma trying to find to right idea cause people here have a need. Thanks for your help anyway. Kind Regards Fred On 6/22/06, Frederic Hornain wrote: > > Hello, > > I have missed that point. > Sorry for that. > > Best Regards > Fred > > > > On 6/21/06, Patrick W. Barnes wrote: > > > On Wednesday 21 June 2006 11:48, "Thomas Chung" > > wrote: > > On 6/21/06, Frederic Hornain wrote: > > >.. > > > So I think in addition of our ambassador role we should be the point > of > > > contact for these guys in our country. > > > I have started to do a kind of list but I would have need to have > > > specific wiki page for this goal in order readable by everybody. > > > You see what I mean. > > > > Well, we already *are* the point of contact. > > See "Aims" on our wiki page: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors > > "Be a point of contact for local community members and channel the > > feedback to Fedora Project" > > You might also be interested in the Fedora Frappr group. > > http://www.frappr.com/fedora > > It isn't comprehensive, and includes many people who are users and not > contributors, but will let people know where others who are interested in > Fedora are located. > > -- > Patrick "The N-Man" Barnes > nman64 at n-man.com > > http://www.n-man.com/ > > LinkedIn: > http://www.linkedin.com/in/nman64 > > Have I been helpful? 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URL: From mcgiwer at fedoraproject.org Thu Jun 22 14:56:09 2006 From: mcgiwer at fedoraproject.org (Pawel Sadowski) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 16:56:09 +0200 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] For all non Fedora Ambassadors but Fedora Project Members In-Reply-To: <3161376e0606210829x4e4071a5maf3b467d5044f506@mail.gmail.com> References: <3161376e0606210829x4e4071a5maf3b467d5044f506@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1150988169.4077.7.camel@redhat> On 21-06-2006, wed at 17:29 +0200, Frederic Hornain wrote: > Dear all, > > Today again, I have met someone who are working for one of Fedora > Projects. > We talked about what he does on his project and if knew other people > woking on Fedora. > I said yes of course and even in our area. > He was really surprized when I told him that other nice guys were also > woking on Fedora close to him. > Then he complain me also that no Physical Fedora Structure exists till > now in my area. > Ok I have to admit. However it is going to change. > > Unfortunatly, they are a lot of contributors who are doing something > in their corner and nobody is knowing that this one or that one is > also working on Fedora on different project close to us. > It will be more funny if we could create local community in order to > share experience, knowledge, etc... > > So I think in addition of our ambassador role we should be the point > of contact for these guys in our country. > I have started to do a kind of list but I would have need to have > specific wiki page for this goal in order readable by everybody. > You see what I mean. > > Something like "Ambassador by country" for all people working on > Fedora and not exclusivly for Ambassador. > Even if the wiki page "Ambassador by country" have his importance. > > Like, this for each country you will have a maintenor which help > Fedora guys to know each others, permit to do the link with Red Hat, > be the point of contact for a specific area. > > Tell me what you are thinking about that. And why not ? If you know > somthing similar? > > Have a nice evening. > Best Regards > Fred Yeah, I think you have a good thinking ;) I have figured out one idea - maybe we could create something called Fedora Users Groups (FUGs), the name of a group like that would be for example New York Fedora Users Group (NYFUG). What do you think of that? Cheers, Pawel Sadowski From hanafiah at fedoraproject.org Thu Jun 22 15:22:22 2006 From: hanafiah at fedoraproject.org (Mohd Hanafiah Muhamad) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 23:22:22 +0800 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Introduction Message-ID: <5028e1a00606220822y254f11eavf25b15a79a0f921a@mail.gmail.com> Dear all, Good day / Assalamualaikum / Peace upon you. I would like to introduce myself to the group. My name is Mohd Hanafiah bin Muhamad. I'm from Malaysia (Country in South-easten Asia). I'm 24 years old. Maybe the younger in this group. I have begin with linux since 1998 starting with Redhat Linux (Manhattan). My counter in http://counter.li.org is #287947. I also participate in Malaysia Opensource community. Lastly i hope our community will more success in future. Regards. Hanafiah Muhamad. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tchung at fedoraproject.org Thu Jun 22 15:24:12 2006 From: tchung at fedoraproject.org (Thomas Chung) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 08:24:12 -0700 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Introduction In-Reply-To: <5028e1a00606220822y254f11eavf25b15a79a0f921a@mail.gmail.com> References: <5028e1a00606220822y254f11eavf25b15a79a0f921a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <369bce3b0606220824w3692b6a3yee3b6f99931de09d@mail.gmail.com> On 6/22/06, Mohd Hanafiah Muhamad wrote: > > Dear all, > > Good day / Assalamualaikum / Peace upon you. > > I would like to introduce myself to the group. > > My name is Mohd Hanafiah bin Muhamad. I'm from Malaysia (Country in > South-easten Asia). I'm 24 years old. Maybe the younger in this group. I > have begin with linux since 1998 starting with Redhat Linux (Manhattan). My > counter in http://counter.li.org is #287947. I also participate in Malaysia > Opensource community. > > Lastly i hope our community will more success in future. > > Regards. > > Hanafiah Muhamad. Once again, welcome aboard! -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung From splinux at fedoraproject.org Thu Jun 22 15:32:02 2006 From: splinux at fedoraproject.org (Damien Durand) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 17:32:02 +0200 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Introduction In-Reply-To: <5028e1a00606220822y254f11eavf25b15a79a0f921a@mail.gmail.com> References: <5028e1a00606220822y254f11eavf25b15a79a0f921a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi, welcome on fedora ambassador. 2006/6/22, Mohd Hanafiah Muhamad : > > Dear all, > > Good day / Assalamualaikum / Peace upon you. > > I would like to introduce myself to the group. > > My name is Mohd Hanafiah bin Muhamad. I'm from Malaysia (Country in > South-easten Asia). I'm 24 years old. Maybe the younger in this group. I > have begin with linux since 1998 starting with Redhat Linux (Manhattan). My > counter in http://counter.li.org is #287947. I also participate > in Malaysia Opensource community. > > Lastly i hope our community will more success in future. > > Regards. > Hanafiah Muhamad. > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Welcome, partner :) Cheers, Pawel Sadowski From mcgiwer at fedoraproject.org Thu Jun 22 16:22:56 2006 From: mcgiwer at fedoraproject.org (Pawel Sadowski) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 18:22:56 +0200 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Weekly Reminder for Fedora Ambassadors In-Reply-To: <369bce3b0606211949n746e4df6rdd7e31aeda593828@mail.gmail.com> References: <369bce3b0606211949n746e4df6rdd7e31aeda593828@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1150993376.6164.10.camel@redhat> On 21-06-2006, wed at 19:49 -0700, Thomas Chung wrote: > This is your Weekly Reminder for Fedora Ambassadors. > > Fedora Ambassadors Meeting will be held on 2006-06-22 14:00 UTC > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings Oh no... I have not checked my e-mail box yesterday and just before moment I read this mail... I forget :/ Sorry :| I will try to participate in the next meeting :) Cheers, Pawel From tchung at fedoraproject.org Thu Jun 22 16:34:15 2006 From: tchung at fedoraproject.org (Thomas Chung) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 09:34:15 -0700 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Speech at school In-Reply-To: <1150980154.4077.2.camel@redhat> References: <1150830176.5326.17.camel@redhat> <7f617d270606201330s1d08dc53o6d820cd175bb65a1@mail.gmail.com> <1150836625.25747.44.camel@MrTomLinux.workstation> <1150837015.20056.59.camel@sundaram.pnq.redhat.com> <7f617d270606201422i167b9dfeqf8ef6dc08dbb82b1@mail.gmail.com> <1150980154.4077.2.camel@redhat> Message-ID: <369bce3b0606220934kd0c1b2dx66bf6c64b640609@mail.gmail.com> On 6/22/06, Pawel Sadowski wrote: > Hi, > > We have decided to postpone the event until autumn, because it is the > end of the school year and we were afraid very few people would arrive > (if any). But it has its advantages - in autumn I will be able to give > away DVDs with burnt FC on it, and I hope leaflets with info about > Fedora. > > Regards, > Pawel Sadowski That sound good. :) Thank you for the update, Pawel. Regards, -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung From fhornain at gmail.com Thu Jun 22 16:38:18 2006 From: fhornain at gmail.com (Frederic Hornain) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 18:38:18 +0200 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] For all non Fedora Ambassadors but Fedora Project Members In-Reply-To: <1150988169.4077.7.camel@redhat> References: <3161376e0606210829x4e4071a5maf3b467d5044f506@mail.gmail.com> <1150988169.4077.7.camel@redhat> Message-ID: <3161376e0606220938g5f785eb6y70773bddc10b10f@mail.gmail.com> Dear Pawel, Yes, I would like to. :) Cause a lot of guys which are woking on Open Source Project complain it does not exist physical structure till now. But in order to do that I need to have a physical support - I think a wiki web page could be a good start point - and the agreement of the community. In addition I would like to have feed back from Ambassadors. Thanks a lot for your reply. Kind Regards Fred On 6/22/06, Pawel Sadowski wrote: > > On 21-06-2006, wed at 17:29 +0200, Frederic Hornain wrote: > > Dear all, > > > > Today again, I have met someone who are working for one of Fedora > > Projects. > > We talked about what he does on his project and if knew other people > > woking on Fedora. > > I said yes of course and even in our area. > > He was really surprized when I told him that other nice guys were also > > woking on Fedora close to him. > > Then he complain me also that no Physical Fedora Structure exists till > > now in my area. > > Ok I have to admit. However it is going to change. > > > > Unfortunatly, they are a lot of contributors who are doing something > > in their corner and nobody is knowing that this one or that one is > > also working on Fedora on different project close to us. > > It will be more funny if we could create local community in order to > > share experience, knowledge, etc... > > > > So I think in addition of our ambassador role we should be the point > > of contact for these guys in our country. > > I have started to do a kind of list but I would have need to have > > specific wiki page for this goal in order readable by everybody. > > You see what I mean. > > > > Something like "Ambassador by country" for all people working on > > Fedora and not exclusivly for Ambassador. > > Even if the wiki page "Ambassador by country" have his importance. > > > > Like, this for each country you will have a maintenor which help > > Fedora guys to know each others, permit to do the link with Red Hat, > > be the point of contact for a specific area. > > > > Tell me what you are thinking about that. And why not ? If you know > > somthing similar? > > > > Have a nice evening. > > Best Regards > > Fred > > Yeah, I think you have a good thinking ;) I have figured out one idea - > maybe we could create something called Fedora Users Groups (FUGs), the > name of a group like that would be for example New York Fedora Users > Group (NYFUG). What do you think of that? > > Cheers, > Pawel Sadowski > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- ----------------------------------------------------- Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tchung at fedoraproject.org Thu Jun 22 17:42:11 2006 From: tchung at fedoraproject.org (Thomas Chung) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 10:42:11 -0700 Subject: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Ambassadors Meeting Minutes 2006-06-22 Message-ID: <369bce3b0606221042v197267h968d2a901ac42d7a@mail.gmail.com> Fedora Ambassadors Meeting Minutes 2006-06-22 has been posted. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/2006-06-22 As a reminder, if you have an up-coming event for yourself, please post the event at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents and attend our regular meeting to report or send out an email report to fedora-ambassadors-list. Our next meeting will be held on 2006-06-29 22:00 UTC http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/ Regards, -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung From mspevack at redhat.com Fri Jun 23 19:45:07 2006 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 15:45:07 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Fedora Event Kit In-Reply-To: <1150908506.11065.252.camel@deepfort> References: <1150908506.11065.252.camel@deepfort> Message-ID: I encourage everyone to read the parent. This represents ongoing work that will impact the way events are handled in the future, and I imagine that there's more people out there who will have comments. Jack's done a lot of work getting the idea to this point, and now is when we need your public review and comments, so that we can incorporate it in to what we're doing. Thanks, Max On Wed, 21 Jun 2006, Jack Aboutboul wrote: > Hey Everyone, > > As some of you already know, I have been working with Max for the past > few weeks on the foundations of some initiatives which we hope will help > us refine some of the processes and functions which Ambassadors > currently carry out. I want to to use this email to introduce one of > these initiatives in hopes of eliciting some good feedback to further > refine these ideas. Let me start out by saying that currently, the main > goal of these propositions is to facilitate more efficient, grass roots, > and most importantly, independent participation by ambassadors. That > is, we hope to use these changes as the building blocks of many more > improvements, and we have decided to start here. > > The initiative I would first like to introduce is the Fedora Ambassadors > Event Kit. As we all have learned by now, the cornerstone of the > Ambassadors project has to do with events, and events are the single > most effective vehicles for publicity and community gathering. The > main problem with running events, however, is that thus far, most of the > events we have carried out have been top down, rather than bottom up. > By that I mean that the efforts, in large part, have come together with > much oversight and involvement with Red Hat and that has caused some > problems. Foremost, many ambassadors have complained about not being > able to run an event independently and have waited for funds and other > merchandise for days on end. Therefore, we have decided to streamline > the event and merchandise acquisition process, and that's good news in > more than one way. It means more control for ambassadors. > > The Fedora Ambassadors Event Kit consists of five sections, each of > which is aimed at tackling one angle of event planning. The following > is a description of each of the sections with a brief breakdown: > > Part 1. Welcome - This section is used to welcome both new and current > ambassadors alike and thank them for choosing to run an event. This > section briefly outlines some common foundation work which must be done > before any event can take place, and how to go about building quality > relationships, both within and without the community, which will serve > many purposes in both present and future endeavors. > > Part 2. Optical Media Guide - The purpose of this section is one of the > most significant changes in protocol for Ambassadors. This section > outlines a new method for obtaining media, by which we empower and > encourage Ambassadors to establish a relationship with local vendors. > Local vendors are a better outlet for obtaining media since the overall > cost is lower and the relationships established with these vendors will > help us gain sponsorship for important initiatives, such as Free Media. > Ambassadors will then be able to collect monetary donations in exchange > for media at the event which will help recover costs and sponsor more > free media. > > Part 3. Merchandise Guide - This section builds on the previous section > and lays out guidelines similar to those in the optical media guide. > Once again Ambassadors will be able to produce hats, shirts, mugs, etc. > locally without much oversight. Many may complain about this new > process, but there are reasons for this. Mainly, we would like to see > ambassadors come up with localized designs for merchandise. Fedora is a > global project and as such, it should be represented in precisely that > way. Ambassadors again will be allowed to ask a donation in exchange > for a merchandise so as to recover their costs. > > Part 4. Custom Design Approval - So you do want to come up with a > localized design for a creative t-shirt, that's great!! All we ask is > that you kindly submit your design for review, before we give you the go > ahead. We have much trust in the Ambassadors, and doubt that anyone > would come up with something in poor taste, however, from a legal > perspective we must approve designs. (You obviously know someone is > going to come up with a Fedora Kills OpenSuSe shirt, and that could be > an issue.) > > Part 5. Accounting - Yes, it sucks, but we want to make this part of the > process as easy as possible. The Ambassadors project wants to make sure > that we do not leave anyone hanging with regarding to costs related to > running an event. Therefore, we will include a simple grid sheet which > will allow Ambassadors to fill in what costs were involved in running > the event, how much money was recovered and what balance remains, if > any. This will also allow us to isolate what elements of running the > event are the costliest and how we can further help bring the costs down > in those areas. > > Part 6. Extra Stuff - So what happens to the extra 20 shirts you have > left? Rest assured that we are working non stop to finally put together > a Fedora Stuff store which we will all be able to use. Until then, we > will have some guidelines in this sections which can be followed, until > a more formal decision is made. > > That's basically it right there. The Event Kit will be available both as > a pdf downloadable from the wiki and as wiki pages themselves which will > allow for editing. We would much appreciate as much feedback as > possible. Does something here sound unbearable? Did you happen to fall > in love with one of these ideas? Would you like to see something > changed or improved? Time is wasting and we would like to have the > event kit up within a few days at the latest, so now is your time to > suggest or complain. > > You are an ambassador, let your voice be heard!! > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- Max Spevack + http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MaxSpevack + gpg key -- http://spevack.org/max.asc + fingerprint -- CD52 5E72 369B B00D 9E9A 773E 2FDB CB46 5A17 CF21 From pmckelvey at zoomtown.com Fri Jun 23 22:07:22 2006 From: pmckelvey at zoomtown.com (Pat McKelvey) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 22:07:22 +0000 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Ambassador Event Kit Message-ID: <449C661A.9000603@zoomtown.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I think it is a good idea. Later suggestions for alternative solutions can be added. For example: I am trying to find a company that will make 300 copies of Fedora5 to give away at 2 different events. I have spent 4 hours with search engine and the yellow pages with one possible candidate. I have emailed them. This is in the Greater Cincinnati Region 2 Mil.+ pop. Such places may be common in other areas, but not here. I may end up going to someone on the web. I have gotten that suggestion from one place I talked to. Having some alternatives on the locally done materials will be helpful. Pat - -- Fedora Ambassador to the Midwest USA Patrick C. McKelvey PE (License E-45489 expires 12/31/2006) 3315 Ashwood Dr. Cincinnati, OH 45213 pmckelve at fedoraproject.org GnuPG - DSA - 9b7e48b3 at pgp.mit.edu 19DC C758 DB34 4AE0 98EE 99E4 A983 6CCE 9B7E 48B3 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFEnGYaqYNszpt+SLMRAvwzAJ9MFtI1oh1wvRVsRW2uVBtnEiy0LACfcVCi IBQA4tWCVBIhTFRuhG9qxps= =ar7x -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From lxmaier at gmail.com Fri Jun 23 22:18:08 2006 From: lxmaier at gmail.com (Alex Maier) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 18:18:08 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Ambassador Event Kit In-Reply-To: <449C661A.9000603@zoomtown.com> References: <449C661A.9000603@zoomtown.com> Message-ID: <7f617d270606231518y70d0f01fqbf9ac3b6a74ea0b6@mail.gmail.com> It may look better than it actually is, but I have found at least a half-dozen places in greater Cincinnati area with this search string on Google: custom DVD production cincinnati In smaller towns, folks like Kinko's usually are more than happy to oblige. Cheers, a On 6/23/06, Pat McKelvey wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > I think it is a good idea. Later suggestions for alternative solutions > can be added. > > For example: I am trying to find a company that will make 300 copies of > Fedora5 to give away at 2 different events. I have spent 4 hours with > search engine and the yellow pages with one possible candidate. I have > emailed them. This is in the Greater Cincinnati Region 2 Mil.+ pop. > Such places may be common in other areas, but not here. I may end up > going to someone on the web. I have gotten that suggestion from one > place I talked to. > > Having some alternatives on the locally done materials will be helpful. > > Pat > - -- > Fedora Ambassador to the Midwest USA > Patrick C. McKelvey PE > (License E-45489 expires 12/31/2006) > 3315 Ashwood Dr. > Cincinnati, OH 45213 > pmckelve at fedoraproject.org > GnuPG - DSA - 9b7e48b3 at pgp.mit.edu > 19DC C758 DB34 4AE0 98EE 99E4 A983 6CCE 9B7E 48B3 > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iD8DBQFEnGYaqYNszpt+SLMRAvwzAJ9MFtI1oh1wvRVsRW2uVBtnEiy0LACfcVCi > IBQA4tWCVBIhTFRuhG9qxps= > =ar7x > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- Check out the new content on Fedora Project page! http://fedoraproject.org From karlie.robinson at fedoraproject.org Fri Jun 23 23:25:19 2006 From: karlie.robinson at fedoraproject.org (Karlie Robinson) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 18:25:19 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Ambassador Event Kit In-Reply-To: <7f617d270606231518y70d0f01fqbf9ac3b6a74ea0b6@mail.gmail.com> References: <449C661A.9000603@zoomtown.com> <7f617d270606231518y70d0f01fqbf9ac3b6a74ea0b6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <449C785F.8060404@fedoraproject.org> I'll do them! Alex Maier wrote: > It may look better than it actually is, but I have found at least a > half-dozen places in greater Cincinnati area with this search string > on Google: > > custom DVD production cincinnati > > In smaller towns, folks like Kinko's usually are more than happy to oblige. > > Cheers, > a > > On 6/23/06, Pat McKelvey wrote: > >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> I think it is a good idea. Later suggestions for alternative solutions >> can be added. >> >> For example: I am trying to find a company that will make 300 copies of >> Fedora5 to give away at 2 different events. >> Having some alternatives on the locally done materials will be helpful. >> >> Pat From chitlesh at fedoraproject.org Sun Jun 25 21:33:03 2006 From: chitlesh at fedoraproject.org (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 23:33:03 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Ambassadors Meeting Minutes 2006-06-22 In-Reply-To: <369bce3b0606221042v197267h968d2a901ac42d7a@mail.gmail.com> References: <369bce3b0606221042v197267h968d2a901ac42d7a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0606251433v24b29367uc0ea62749ab8a39c@mail.gmail.com> On 6/22/06, Thomas Chung wrote: > Fedora Ambassadors Meeting Minutes 2006-06-22 has been posted. > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/2006-06-22 > > As a reminder, if you have an up-coming event for yourself, please > post the event at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents and > attend our regular meeting to report or send out an email report to > fedora-ambassadors-list. > # Aug, 5, 2006 My First Mauritian LUG Meeting Port-Louis, Mauritius - ChitleshGoorah * ChitleshGoorah not present * lxmaier: anyone knows anything? * kOoL: just read his mail ... he got the auth model to "export" DVD and has confirmed his efforts Yes, koolinus is correct :) I've already posted some updates about my event on the list :) Sorry, I couldn't catch up the meeting I had spontaneously decided to attend a moodle conference. I think we should mention moodle in FedoraEducation since we already have it in Fedora Extras. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Education Maybe we can talk about this with the Project "FedoraEducation" starter, FredericHornan. Chitlesh -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com From fhornain at gmail.com Mon Jun 26 17:39:38 2006 From: fhornain at gmail.com (Frederic Hornain) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 19:39:38 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] For all non Fedora Ambassadors but Fedora Project Members In-Reply-To: <3161376e0606220938g5f785eb6y70773bddc10b10f@mail.gmail.com> References: <3161376e0606210829x4e4071a5maf3b467d5044f506@mail.gmail.com> <1150988169.4077.7.camel@redhat> <3161376e0606220938g5f785eb6y70773bddc10b10f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <3161376e0606261039s71ed9b6fo3af2ec4e8495baf7@mail.gmail.com> Alex, Thomas, all Fedora Peoples Following what I have written above I would need to have your opinion, your agreement about what I am trying to do. Which is in fact to tend to link all Fedora communauty of a specific country or state. We are already 6 for one week. Not so bad ! In order to that as best as I can, I think I would need a wiki web page on the Fedoraproject web site in order to refer to it when someone new or older of this country needs informations for his specific area. Thanks a lot for your help. Best Regards Fred On 6/22/06, Frederic Hornain wrote: > > Dear Pawel, > > Yes, I would like to. :) > Cause a lot of guys which are woking on Open Source Project complain it > does not exist physical structure till now. > But in order to do that I need to have a physical support - I think a wiki > web page could be a good start point - and the agreement of the community. > > In addition I would like to have feed back from Ambassadors. > > Thanks a lot for your reply. > > Kind Regards > Fred > > > On 6/22/06, Pawel Sadowski wrote: > > > > On 21-06-2006, wed at 17:29 +0200, Frederic Hornain wrote: > > > Dear all, > > > > > > Today again, I have met someone who are working for one of Fedora > > > Projects. > > > We talked about what he does on his project and if knew other people > > > woking on Fedora. > > > I said yes of course and even in our area. > > > He was really surprized when I told him that other nice guys were also > > > woking on Fedora close to him. > > > Then he complain me also that no Physical Fedora Structure exists till > > > > > now in my area. > > > Ok I have to admit. However it is going to change. > > > > > > Unfortunatly, they are a lot of contributors who are doing something > > > in their corner and nobody is knowing that this one or that one is > > > also working on Fedora on different project close to us. > > > It will be more funny if we could create local community in order to > > > share experience, knowledge, etc... > > > > > > So I think in addition of our ambassador role we should be the point > > > of contact for these guys in our country. > > > I have started to do a kind of list but I would have need to have > > > specific wiki page for this goal in order readable by everybody. > > > You see what I mean. > > > > > > Something like "Ambassador by country" for all people working on > > > Fedora and not exclusivly for Ambassador. > > > Even if the wiki page "Ambassador by country" have his importance. > > > > > > Like, this for each country you will have a maintenor which help > > > Fedora guys to know each others, permit to do the link with Red Hat, > > > be the point of contact for a specific area. > > > > > > Tell me what you are thinking about that. And why not ? If you know > > > somthing similar? > > > > > > Have a nice evening. > > > Best Regards > > > Fred > > > > Yeah, I think you have a good thinking ;) I have figured out one idea - > > maybe we could create something called Fedora Users Groups (FUGs), the > > name of a group like that would be for example New York Fedora Users > > Group (NYFUG). 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URL: From fhornain at gmail.com Mon Jun 26 17:47:34 2006 From: fhornain at gmail.com (Frederic Hornain) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 19:47:34 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Ambassadors Meeting Minutes 2006-06-22 In-Reply-To: <13dbfe4f0606251433v24b29367uc0ea62749ab8a39c@mail.gmail.com> References: <369bce3b0606221042v197267h968d2a901ac42d7a@mail.gmail.com> <13dbfe4f0606251433v24b29367uc0ea62749ab8a39c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <3161376e0606261047i7579faebj967ce2f9bd9a749f@mail.gmail.com> Dear Chitlesh, Let's explain a little bit about the idea you had -moodle-? What is different from drupal ? Best Regards Fred On 6/25/06, Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: > > On 6/22/06, Thomas Chung wrote: > > Fedora Ambassadors Meeting Minutes 2006-06-22 has been posted. > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/2006-06-22 > > > > As a reminder, if you have an up-coming event for yourself, please > > post the event at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents and > > attend our regular meeting to report or send out an email report to > > fedora-ambassadors-list. > > > > # Aug, 5, 2006 My First Mauritian LUG Meeting Port-Louis, Mauritius - > ChitleshGoorah > * ChitleshGoorah not present > * lxmaier: anyone knows anything? > * kOoL: just read his mail ... he got the auth model to > "export" DVD and has confirmed his efforts > > Yes, koolinus is correct :) > > I've already posted some updates about my event on the list :) > > Sorry, I couldn't catch up the meeting I had spontaneously decided to > attend a moodle conference. I think we should mention moodle in > FedoraEducation since we already have it in Fedora Extras. > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Education > > Maybe we can talk about this with the Project "FedoraEducation" > starter, FredericHornan. > > > Chitlesh > -- > http://clunixchit.blogspot.com > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- ----------------------------------------------------- Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tchung at fedoraproject.org Mon Jun 26 18:17:24 2006 From: tchung at fedoraproject.org (Thomas Chung) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 11:17:24 -0700 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] For all non Fedora Ambassadors but Fedora Project Members In-Reply-To: <3161376e0606261039s71ed9b6fo3af2ec4e8495baf7@mail.gmail.com> References: <3161376e0606210829x4e4071a5maf3b467d5044f506@mail.gmail.com> <1150988169.4077.7.camel@redhat> <3161376e0606220938g5f785eb6y70773bddc10b10f@mail.gmail.com> <3161376e0606261039s71ed9b6fo3af2ec4e8495baf7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <369bce3b0606261117y3520f54i9c89bef207a7f7d6@mail.gmail.com> On 6/26/06, Frederic Hornain wrote: > Alex, Thomas, all Fedora Peoples > > Following what I have written above I would need to have your opinion, your > agreement about what I am trying to do. Which is in fact to tend to link all > Fedora communauty of a specific country or state. We are already 6 for one > week. Not so bad ! > In order to that as best as I can, I think I would need a wiki web page on > the Fedoraproject web site in order to refer to it when someone new or older > of this country needs informations for his specific area. > > Thanks a lot for your help. > > Best Regards > Fred > Hi Fred, I still don't see the need but you feel it's needed please go ahead create a wiki page under your personal wiki name. This way we can review it before moving to root level. Make sure to add as much information including your proposal and plan. BTW, your description of the need above sounds a lot like existing Fedora Mentors Project. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mentors Regards, -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung From tchung at fedoraproject.org Tue Jun 27 01:43:16 2006 From: tchung at fedoraproject.org (Thomas Chung) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 18:43:16 -0700 Subject: [Ambassadors] FAMSCO Meeting Minutes 2006-06-26 Message-ID: <369bce3b0606261843s6a5edf14kae618ba3c6cbab5@mail.gmail.com> All, FAMSCO Meeting Minutes 2006-06-26 has been posted at: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/SteeringCommittee/Meetings/2006-06-26 Regards, -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung From tchung at fedoraproject.org Tue Jun 27 01:51:37 2006 From: tchung at fedoraproject.org (Thomas Chung) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 18:51:37 -0700 Subject: [Ambassadors] FAMSCO Meeting Minutes 2006-06-26 Message-ID: <369bce3b0606261851w6c31aad2s6c2051de88ab166e@mail.gmail.com> All, FAMSCO Meeting Minutes 2006-06-26 has been posted at: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/SteeringCommittee/Meetings/2006-06-26 Regards, -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung From tchung at fedoraproject.org Wed Jun 28 23:12:15 2006 From: tchung at fedoraproject.org (Thomas Chung) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 16:12:15 -0700 Subject: [Ambassadors] Weekly Reminder for Fedora Ambassadors Message-ID: <369bce3b0606281612n1888d970ka05a661fba705eef@mail.gmail.com> This is your Weekly Reminder for Fedora Ambassadors. Fedora Ambassadors Meeting will be held on 2006-06-29 22:00 UTC http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings Also everyone in Fedora Ambassadors Program should sign CLA and join 'ambassadors' group in your Fedora Account System. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/AccountSystemHowTo Regards, -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung From halaba at o2.pl Sun Jun 25 12:04:37 2006 From: halaba at o2.pl (=?UTF-8?Q?Merlin?=) Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 14:04:37 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Cd whith Fedor 5 Message-ID: <61d5fb83.4ff94b96.449e7bd5.1185a@o2.pl> I have question I won't to talk some thing about Linux and Fedora in small private schooll. School Say they can burn a Cd with a fedora core 5 but a chidren must pey for blank cddo you thing it's a good idea to give every one a Fedora 5?? From tchung at fedoraproject.org Thu Jun 29 01:15:47 2006 From: tchung at fedoraproject.org (Thomas Chung) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 18:15:47 -0700 Subject: [Ambassadors] Cd whith Fedor 5 In-Reply-To: <61d5fb83.4ff94b96.449e7bd5.1185a@o2.pl> References: <61d5fb83.4ff94b96.449e7bd5.1185a@o2.pl> Message-ID: <369bce3b0606281815j33fade31r4b5cad09ce80c1d3@mail.gmail.com> On 6/25/06, Merlin wrote: > I have question I won't to talk some thing about Linux and Fedora in small private schooll. School Say they can burn a Cd with a fedora core 5 but a chidren must pey for blank cddo you thing it's a good idea to give every one a Fedora 5?? Merlin, let me rephrase that so we can understand you better. "I have a question. I want to talk some thing about Linux and Fedora in a small private school. The school (officials) say they can burn CDs with a Fedora Core 5 but their children (?) must pay for blank CD. Do you think it's a good idea to give everyone a Fedora Core 5?" You said, "Children" you mean "Students"? Did the school officials want money for blank CDs? Why can't you provide FC5 CDs or DVDs burned yourself before the presentation? Can you send us information on where and when exactly you're planning to do this presentation? As we discussed before, we now recommend all Ambassadors living outside of US produce Fedora Material (CDs, DVDs, T-Shirts) locally using local vendors to avoid high cost of international shipping. In order to get the reimbursement for your event, you need to send a detail proposal of the event to famsco-list[1] and submit an official request[2] at least one month prior to the event. [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/SteeringCommittee [2] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/GetStuff Regards, -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung From nman64 at n-man.com Thu Jun 29 05:06:22 2006 From: nman64 at n-man.com (Patrick W. Barnes) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 00:06:22 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Cd whith Fedor 5 In-Reply-To: <369bce3b0606281815j33fade31r4b5cad09ce80c1d3@mail.gmail.com> References: <61d5fb83.4ff94b96.449e7bd5.1185a@o2.pl> <369bce3b0606281815j33fade31r4b5cad09ce80c1d3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200606290006.25626.nman64@n-man.com> On Wednesday 28 June 2006 20:15, "Thomas Chung" wrote: > On 6/25/06, Merlin wrote: > > I have question I won't to talk some thing about Linux and Fedora in > > small private schooll. School Say they can burn a Cd with a fedora core 5 > > but a chidren must pey for blank cddo you thing it's a good idea to give > > every one a Fedora 5?? > > Merlin, let me rephrase that so we can understand you better. > > "I have a question. I want to talk some thing about Linux and Fedora > in a small private school. The school (officials) say they can burn > CDs with a Fedora Core 5 but their children (?) must pay for blank CD. > Do you think it's a good idea to give everyone a Fedora Core 5?" > > You said, "Children" you mean "Students"? > Did the school officials want money for blank CDs? > Why can't you provide FC5 CDs or DVDs burned yourself before the > presentation? Can you send us information on where and when exactly you're > planning to do this presentation? > > As we discussed before, we now recommend all Ambassadors living > outside of US produce Fedora Material (CDs, DVDs, T-Shirts) locally > using local vendors to avoid high cost of international shipping. In > order to get the reimbursement for your event, you need to send a > detail proposal of the event to famsco-list[1] and submit an official > request[2] at least one month prior to the event. > > [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/SteeringCommittee > [2] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/GetStuff If you wish to burn Fedora Core 5 on CD or DVD for anyone who provides blank media, you can certainly do that. If the school wishes to distribute Fedora Core 5 for the cost of the media, they are welcome to do that for anyone, and we would certainly consider that a good idea. If they are willing to make the same offer to the general public and not just the students, they can be added to the Local Vendors list. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution/LocalVendors -- Patrick "The N-Man" Barnes nman64 at n-man.com http://www.n-man.com/ LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/nman64 Have I been helpful? 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No connection in my village :( Regards, Kushal From mcgiwer at fedoraproject.org Thu Jun 29 12:56:17 2006 From: mcgiwer at fedoraproject.org (Pawel Sadowski) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 14:56:17 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Cd whith Fedor 5 In-Reply-To: <200606290006.25626.nman64@n-man.com> References: <61d5fb83.4ff94b96.449e7bd5.1185a@o2.pl> <369bce3b0606281815j33fade31r4b5cad09ce80c1d3@mail.gmail.com> <200606290006.25626.nman64@n-man.com> Message-ID: <1151585777.3854.1.camel@redhat> On 29-06-2006, thu at 00:06 -0500, Patrick W. Barnes wrote: > On Wednesday 28 June 2006 20:15, "Thomas Chung" > wrote: > > On 6/25/06, Merlin wrote: > > > I have question I won't to talk some thing about Linux and Fedora in > > > small private schooll. School Say they can burn a Cd with a fedora core 5 > > > but a chidren must pey for blank cddo you thing it's a good idea to give > > > every one a Fedora 5?? > > > > Merlin, let me rephrase that so we can understand you better. > > > > "I have a question. I want to talk some thing about Linux and Fedora > > in a small private school. The school (officials) say they can burn > > CDs with a Fedora Core 5 but their children (?) must pay for blank CD. > > Do you think it's a good idea to give everyone a Fedora Core 5?" > > > > You said, "Children" you mean "Students"? > > Did the school officials want money for blank CDs? > > Why can't you provide FC5 CDs or DVDs burned yourself before the > > presentation? Can you send us information on where and when exactly you're > > planning to do this presentation? > > > > As we discussed before, we now recommend all Ambassadors living > > outside of US produce Fedora Material (CDs, DVDs, T-Shirts) locally > > using local vendors to avoid high cost of international shipping. In > > order to get the reimbursement for your event, you need to send a > > detail proposal of the event to famsco-list[1] and submit an official > > request[2] at least one month prior to the event. > > > > [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/SteeringCommittee > > [2] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/GetStuff > > If you wish to burn Fedora Core 5 on CD or DVD for anyone who provides blank > media, you can certainly do that. If the school wishes to distribute Fedora > Core 5 for the cost of the media, they are welcome to do that for anyone, and > we would certainly consider that a good idea. If they are willing to make > the same offer to the general public and not just the students, they can be > added to the Local Vendors list. > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution/LocalVendors Mateusz, If you need any help, feel free to contact me -- by phone, e-mail, Jabber or in any other way :) I will be glad to help you. Cheers, Pawel Sadowski From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Thu Jun 29 13:45:54 2006 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 19:15:54 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Weekly Reminder for Fedora Ambassadors In-Reply-To: References: <369bce3b0606281612n1888d970ka05a661fba705eef@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <44A3D992.30307@fedoraproject.org> Kushal Das wrote: > Sorry , am out of Internet. > No connection in my village :( > > Regards, > Kushal > Welcome back. Someone from IDG contacted me based on a event in your area in which you probably got involved. So looks like we are having a good effect. -- Rahul From mcgiwer at fedoraproject.org Thu Jun 29 15:07:01 2006 From: mcgiwer at fedoraproject.org (Pawel Sadowski) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 17:07:01 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Language -- formal or informal? Message-ID: <1151593621.3854.36.camel@redhat> Hi, Sometimes I am confused when I am writing to the list. Now I have a thinking - should the language we use on the Ambassadors list be informal or rather formal? Sometimes, it is quite inconvienient when I write the posts without any abbreviations etc. And here is the question, and the idea thereby -- maybe let's start using informal language and feel free to use any abbreviations, slang etc. I think it would make communication on the list much easier and make us closer ;) What do you think about that? Regards, Pawel Sadowski From fhornain at gmail.com Thu Jun 29 16:39:13 2006 From: fhornain at gmail.com (Frederic Hornain) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 18:39:13 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Language -- formal or informal? In-Reply-To: <1151593621.3854.36.camel@redhat> References: <1151593621.3854.36.camel@redhat> Message-ID: <3161376e0606290939o1622dbb8ia7dc811084377b84@mail.gmail.com> Dear friend, Well, just to say my opinion. I am not again abbreviation and slang words even if I could learn few more intersting words ;) However, for people who are not so expert than that in the Shakespeare tongue like me. It could be difficult to understand the meaning of some sentence. In addition it also would not be easy to retreive the meaning of this specific word in my translator dictonary. Hoping that you understand my point of view, mate :) Cheers Fred On 6/29/06, Pawel Sadowski wrote: > > Hi, > > Sometimes I am confused when I am writing to the list. Now I have a > thinking - should the language we use on the Ambassadors list be > informal or rather formal? 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URL: From tchung at fedoraproject.org Thu Jun 29 23:15:17 2006 From: tchung at fedoraproject.org (Thomas Chung) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 16:15:17 -0700 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Ambassadors Meeting Minutes 2006-06-29 Message-ID: <369bce3b0606291615x166236ebs50398d2f6d3302df@mail.gmail.com> Fedora Ambassadors Meeting Minutes 2006-06-29 has been posted. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/2006-06-29 As a reminder, if you have an up-coming event for yourself, please post the event at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents and attend our regular meeting to report or send out an email report to fedora-ambassadors-list. Our next meeting will be held on 2006-07-06 14:00 UTC (Not confirmed yet) http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/ Regards, -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung From thomas.canniot at laposte.net Thu Jun 29 23:08:50 2006 From: thomas.canniot at laposte.net (Thomas Canniot) Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 01:08:50 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Fedora Event Kit In-Reply-To: References: <1150908506.11065.252.camel@deepfort> Message-ID: <1151622531.7391.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> Le vendredi 23 juin 2006 ? 15:45 -0400, Max Spevack a ?crit : > I encourage everyone to read the parent. This represents ongoing work > that will impact the way events are handled in the future, and I imagine > that there's more people out there who will have comments. > > Jack's done a lot of work getting the idea to this point, and now is when > we need your public review and comments, so that we can incorporate it in > to what we're doing. > > Thanks, > Max Hello, I think that everything Jack wrote has been well thought and it is wisely written and convincing. I have nothing to complain about. Even if it seems to be controversal, the locally made shirts are maybe something users of the French community are craving for. And as the shipping costs of the store are not accpetable at all, as Brandful's answer about this, I think making the shirts locally is a good idea. Moreover, as there are many French ambassadors, it will be easier for us to think about this and have things going ahead. Thank you :) Thomas Canniot From dimitris at glezos.com Fri Jun 30 12:01:21 2006 From: dimitris at glezos.com (Dimitris Glezos) Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 13:01:21 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Fedora Event Kit In-Reply-To: <1151622531.7391.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1150908506.11065.252.camel@deepfort> <1151622531.7391.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <44A51291.1020209@glezos.com> O/H Thomas Canniot ??????: > Hello, I think that everything Jack wrote has been well thought and it > is wisely written and convincing. I have nothing to complain about. +1 Thanks Jack. -Dim -- Dimitris Glezos Jabber ID: glezos at jabber.org, GPG: 0xA5A04C3B http://dimitris.glezos.com/ "He who gives up functionality for ease of use loses both and deserves neither." (Anonymous) -- From fhornain at gmail.com Fri Jun 30 14:21:28 2006 From: fhornain at gmail.com (Frederic Hornain) Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 16:21:28 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Fedora Event Kit In-Reply-To: <44A51291.1020209@glezos.com> References: <1150908506.11065.252.camel@deepfort> <1151622531.7391.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> <44A51291.1020209@glezos.com> Message-ID: <3161376e0606300721u54b826ffhbab75f35dddd7d24@mail.gmail.com> Dear *, The idea is relatively good however I have got some questions or remarks about the different parts: Part 1: Great idea to create a document which can help new ambassadors and older one to : - set up or participate to an event - to improve their quality relationships. - and so forth? it will be quite usefulll. However, do not forget the people relationships can be different following the country where you are even if they speaks the same language. Part2, Part 3 and Part 5: So I will have to pay for creating local CD in order to redistribute it with donation, will I? Ok, this will work for an Open source event cause every visitor is aware about the Open Source way of thinking. And they quite agree to help volunteer in giving donations. However, basically they already know what is fedora. And if they want to try it they already know where to download it ? I do not say that is useless but the principal think is to make discover what linux is to standard user, students, IT professionals and so on, agree? People who do not use or do not know what is linux. - I do not mean to convince them or evangelize them, I just mean to tell them that it exist something else than proprietary systems. Just say they have got choice. ? And unfortunately, it is already difficult to convince them to just try it so what do think they will do if I will request them a donation? All this to say, who is going to pay for CD or DVD? Volunteers? Well, the think we all agree is the transport cost from the US. But why Red hat will not create them proportionally in each continent? And on each continent one mentor will be responsible for them deliveries. Like this, the delivery cost will be cheaper. Concerning the Fedora Merchandises, I have got the same point of view excepted that they are more relevant in Open Source event than for standard users, student and so on. So I think that we could better ask donations for Fedora stuffs than for CD to people who already know what is linux. Part 4: No particular remarks. Part 6: Depend of what you will decide. But if you do it as you said, how will you manage all extra stuff from different events with different design, color, size and so on coming from different countries? What do you do of our delivery cost problems? And finally, will the Fedora stuff customer be satisfy about what he ordered? Anyway, I am not trying to kill all you propositions and I do not want to. Every ideas are welcome. I understand that you are looking for kill-costing solution and I think you are doing great job event if I have got a different point of view. ;) Fred On 6/30/06, Dimitris Glezos wrote: > > O/H Thomas Canniot ??????: > > Hello, I think that everything Jack wrote has been well thought and it > > is wisely written and convincing. I have nothing to complain about. > > +1 > > Thanks Jack. > > -Dim > > > -- > Dimitris Glezos > Jabber ID: glezos at jabber.org, GPG: 0xA5A04C3B > http://dimitris.glezos.com/ > > > "He who gives up functionality for ease of use > loses both and deserves neither." (Anonymous) > -- > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- ----------------------------------------------------- Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tchung at fedoraproject.org Fri Jun 30 17:42:47 2006 From: tchung at fedoraproject.org (Thomas Chung) Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 10:42:47 -0700 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Ambassadors Meetings on 4th of July Holidays Message-ID: <369bce3b0606301042y455cd15le99bf6e5a2a8123a@mail.gmail.com> To observe 4th of July, Independence Day, which is a Holiday in US, famsco meeting [1] on July 4th and ambassadors meeting[2] on July 6th have been cancelled. [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/SteeringCommittee/Meetings [2] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings Have a nice Holidays everyone! -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung From halaba at o2.pl Fri Jun 30 21:51:13 2006 From: halaba at o2.pl (=?UTF-8?Q?Merlin?=) Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 23:51:13 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Events In-Reply-To: <369bce3b0606291615x166236ebs50398d2f6d3302df@mail.gmail.com> References: <369bce3b0606291615x166236ebs50398d2f6d3302df@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <7a03b144.7415ee19.44a59cd1.15940@o2.pl> Hello I want to add 4 events but i cant edit a wiki pages Pawe? if you want come write to me 1)BIN GigaCon 2006 7-8 September 2006, Hotel Mariott, Warsaw more info on http://www.konferencje.software.com.pl/bin2006/pl/index.php 2)Integrated Building Systems GigaCon (but i want to ask it's good event for talk about a fedora??) 4-5 Octomber 2006 more info on http://www.konferencje.software.com.pl/ibsgigacon2006/pl/index.php 3)Linux? GigaCon 22-23 November 2006 Warszawa more info on http://www.linux.gigacon.org/pl/index.php 4)Systemy dla Przedsi?biorstw GigaCon 2006 4-5 december 2006 more info on http://konferencje.software.com.pl/sdp2006/pl/ I'm write to woman who organisation of this event's and she rewrite to me "yo can say about Fedora Procject on this event's but i will write to you in next mouth." Now I looking for a firm who want to pay for CD and T-shirt whith Fedora Do you think it's a good event's?? From mcgiwer at fedoraproject.org Fri Jun 30 22:31:31 2006 From: mcgiwer at fedoraproject.org (Pawel Sadowski) Date: Sat, 01 Jul 2006 00:31:31 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Events In-Reply-To: <7a03b144.7415ee19.44a59cd1.15940@o2.pl> References: <369bce3b0606291615x166236ebs50398d2f6d3302df@mail.gmail.com> <7a03b144.7415ee19.44a59cd1.15940@o2.pl> Message-ID: <1151706691.3784.11.camel@redhat> Mateusz, I think the conferences number 2 and 4 are not good places for a presentation about Fedora. If you're insist, the conference number 4 can be IMHO eventually added to the Events list. If it comes about Fedora T- shirts and DVDs, I think you should read the topic "Fedora Event Kit" on the Ambassadors list. I can only say you I'm already working on it. If you have any questions or concerns, please contact me - I preffer a phone call ;) Cheers, Pawel On 30-06-2006, fri at 23:51 +0200, Merlin wrote: > Hello I want to add 4 events but i cant edit a wiki pages > Pawe? if you want come write to me > 1)BIN GigaCon 2006 > 7-8 September 2006, Hotel Mariott, Warsaw > more info on http://www.konferencje.software.com.pl/bin2006/pl/index.php > 2)Integrated Building Systems GigaCon (but i want to ask it's good event for talk about a fedora??) > 4-5 Octomber 2006 > more info on http://www.konferencje.software.com.pl/ibsgigacon2006/pl/index.php > 3)Linux? GigaCon > 22-23 November 2006 > Warszawa > more info on http://www.linux.gigacon.org/pl/index.php > 4)Systemy dla Przedsi?biorstw GigaCon 2006 > 4-5 december 2006 > more info on http://konferencje.software.com.pl/sdp2006/pl/ > > I'm write to woman who organisation of this event's and she rewrite to me "yo can say about Fedora Procject on this event's but i will write to you in next mouth." > > > Now I looking for a firm who want to pay for CD and T-shirt whith Fedora > Do you think it's a good event's?? > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list From tchung at fedoraproject.org Fri Jun 30 22:49:19 2006 From: tchung at fedoraproject.org (Thomas Chung) Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 15:49:19 -0700 Subject: [Ambassadors] Events In-Reply-To: <7a03b144.7415ee19.44a59cd1.15940@o2.pl> References: <369bce3b0606291615x166236ebs50398d2f6d3302df@mail.gmail.com> <7a03b144.7415ee19.44a59cd1.15940@o2.pl> Message-ID: <369bce3b0606301549p7401b954w7142dd6aa686080f@mail.gmail.com> On 6/30/06, Merlin wrote: > Hello I want to add 4 events but i cant edit a wiki pages > Pawe? if you want come write to me Have you complete CLA? I don't see your record yet. Please contact me off list for Membership Services. Regards, -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung