From mcgiwer at fedoraproject.org Fri Sep 1 06:44:32 2006 From: mcgiwer at fedoraproject.org (Pawel Sadowski) Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2006 08:44:32 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Ambassadors Recognition Awards, round 2 In-Reply-To: <7f617d270608310906p4bee5c2ekcab0bc095c0aa56d@mail.gmail.com> References: <7f617d270608310906p4bee5c2ekcab0bc095c0aa56d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1157093072.8273.3.camel@redhat> On 31-08-2006, thu at 12:06 -0400, Alex Maier wrote: > Hello everybody! > > It is my pleasure to announce the winners of the next round of the > Fedora Ambassadors Recognition Awards! > > Here they are: > PatrickBarnes > KarlieRobinson > ThomasChung > GeroldKassube > FlorianBrand > ChitleshGoorah > ThomasCanniot > RodrigoPadula > RodrigoMenezes > HugoCisneiros > > Please join me in congratulating these committed Ambassadors to the > well-deserved award, and thank them for all their hard work! > > Winners, please send me your *physical* addresses, so your token gifts > can be sent to you. > > Thank you, > Alex Congratulations! :) Cheers, Pawel From fhornain at gmail.com Fri Sep 1 09:25:05 2006 From: fhornain at gmail.com (Frederic Hornain) Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2006 11:25:05 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Ambassadors Recognition Awards, round 2 In-Reply-To: <1157093072.8273.3.camel@redhat> References: <7f617d270608310906p4bee5c2ekcab0bc095c0aa56d@mail.gmail.com> <1157093072.8273.3.camel@redhat> Message-ID: <3161376e0609010225h2e1f1fa4g3cd4e70f3e48b75a@mail.gmail.com> +1 Best Regards Fred On 9/1/06, Pawel Sadowski wrote: > > On 31-08-2006, thu at 12:06 -0400, Alex Maier wrote: > > Hello everybody! > > > > It is my pleasure to announce the winners of the next round of the > > Fedora Ambassadors Recognition Awards! > > > > Here they are: > > PatrickBarnes > > KarlieRobinson > > ThomasChung > > GeroldKassube > > FlorianBrand > > ChitleshGoorah > > ThomasCanniot > > RodrigoPadula > > RodrigoMenezes > > HugoCisneiros > > > > Please join me in congratulating these committed Ambassadors to the > > well-deserved award, and thank them for all their hard work! > > > > Winners, please send me your *physical* addresses, so your token gifts > > can be sent to you. > > > > Thank you, > > Alex > > Congratulations! :) > > Cheers, > Pawel > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- ----------------------------------------------------- Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com Olpc mailing list olpc-open at laptop.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From debo at casttechnologies.com Fri Sep 1 11:38:40 2006 From: debo at casttechnologies.com (DEBO OGUNRINDE) Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2006 10:38:40 -0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Ambassadors Recognition Awards, round 2 In-Reply-To: <369bce3b0608311106p77bac638ub9c11ce8c4e560ea@mail.gmail.com> References: <7f617d270608310906p4bee5c2ekcab0bc095c0aa56d@mail.gmail.com> <369bce3b0608311106p77bac638ub9c11ce8c4e560ea@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200609011038.40757.debo@casttechnologies.com> Congrats to U guys great work DEBO OGUNRINDE CAST TECHNOLOGIES LIMITED TEL:+234-1-4358770, +234-8035900237 MAIL: debo at casttechnologies.com, debloxie at yahoo.com WEB: http://www.casttechnologies.com From fhornain at gmail.com Fri Sep 1 11:29:57 2006 From: fhornain at gmail.com (Frederic Hornain) Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2006 13:29:57 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] LinuxWorld Netherlands and Euro OSCON Message-ID: <3161376e0609010429w5ab49a09kf6ca947653a8da35@mail.gmail.com> Dear *, Concening the Euro Oscon in Brussels, I have planned to be there but unfortunalty and despite all mails I sent to Fedora, Red Hat and O'reilly people, , I was not able to find the clue to be registered. Sorry for that guys :( Now, concerning the LinuxWorld Netherlands, I am probably going to register however I am wondering if I have to represent Fedora face to Red Hat alone or with Red Hat ? Thanks for your reply. For my part, I think with Red Hat cause Fedora and RH are complementary. Best Regards Fred ----------------------------------------------------- Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com Olpc mailing list olpc-open at laptop.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rodrigopadula at projetofedora.org Fri Sep 1 20:37:45 2006 From: rodrigopadula at projetofedora.org (Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira) Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2006 17:37:45 -0300 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Ambassadors Recognition Awards, round 2 In-Reply-To: <200609011038.40757.debo@casttechnologies.com> References: <7f617d270608310906p4bee5c2ekcab0bc095c0aa56d@mail.gmail.com> <369bce3b0608311106p77bac638ub9c11ce8c4e560ea@mail.gmail.com> <200609011038.40757.debo@casttechnologies.com> Message-ID: <44F89A19.20101@projetofedora.org> Hi Guys!!! The merit is of all! ;-) Thanks!!!! Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira Brazilian Fedora Ambassador Rio de Janeiro - BRAZIL www.projetofedora.org DEBO OGUNRINDE escreveu: > Congrats to U guys > > great work > > DEBO OGUNRINDE > CAST TECHNOLOGIES LIMITED > TEL:+234-1-4358770, +234-8035900237 > MAIL: debo at casttechnologies.com, debloxie at yahoo.com > WEB: http://www.casttechnologies.com > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > From tchung at fedoraproject.org Fri Sep 1 22:14:17 2006 From: tchung at fedoraproject.org (Thomas Chung) Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2006 15:14:17 -0700 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Ambassadors Meeting Minutes 2006-08-31 Message-ID: <369bce3b0609011514o36825420k98dfb61e1618ae06@mail.gmail.com> Fedora Ambassadors Meeting Minutes 2006-08-31 has been posted. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/2006-08-31 As a reminder, if you have an up-coming event for yourself, please post the event at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents and attend our regular meeting to report or send out an email report to fedora-ambassadors-list. Our next meeting will be held on 2006-09-07 22:00 UTC http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/ Regards, -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung From mcgiwer at fedoraproject.org Sat Sep 2 09:10:39 2006 From: mcgiwer at fedoraproject.org (Pawel Sadowski) Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2006 11:10:39 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Gathering people for Fedora Free Media Message-ID: <1157188239.16511.10.camel@redhat> Hi, I would like to inform I have announced at www.fedora.pl (Polish Site and Support Forum) about the Fedora Free Media Project. I have explained how it works and informed how to contact me for people who would be interested in helping, as the help would be very valuable for the Fedora Project. I hope there will be at least few people willing. If so, I would create Free Media Program Poland, similarly to Free Media Program Brazil and India. There are many requests from Poland, so it would be very helpful if there were more contributors involved. In this way we could fulfill more requests, who knows - maybe all of them :) I hope I will gather some peope and we will together help in spreading Fedora :) Regards, Pawel Sadowski From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Sat Sep 2 17:47:19 2006 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul) Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2006 23:17:19 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Opening up French ambassadors list archive and sharing infrastructure Message-ID: <44F9C3A7.804@fedoraproject.org> Hi Is there a reason why the French ambassadors list archives at https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fr-list is only available to list members We have very few lists that do not have public archives and they remain accessible only to list members for specific reasons. In general, the policy in the mailing lists is to keep the archives open and lists such as Fedora maintainers and Fedora Advisory Board offer read only lists for other people to subscribe and watch the discussions. Can we consider opening up the list archives to the public for the Fedora ambassadors list? Also I see that a migration to other CMS systems is being considered (http://www.llaumgui.com/post/Reflexion-sur-Fedora-France-Xoops-et-lhebergement) for Fedora France website. It would be quite useful if other websites use a similar infrastructure to http://fedoraproject.org which uses moimmoin for the wiki and Plone is being staged for the CMS. Having similar infrastructure would help in sharing content and sysadmin work among other reasons. Rahul From nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net Sat Sep 2 17:59:25 2006 From: nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net (Nicolas Mailhot) Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2006 19:59:25 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Opening up French ambassadors list archive and sharing infrastructure In-Reply-To: <44F9C3A7.804@fedoraproject.org> References: <44F9C3A7.804@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <1157219965.12243.17.camel@rousalka.dyndns.org> Le samedi 02 septembre 2006 ? 23:17 +0530, Rahul a ?crit : > Also I see that a migration to other CMS systems is being considered > (http://www.llaumgui.com/post/Reflexion-sur-Fedora-France-Xoops-et-lhebergement) > for Fedora France website. It would be quite useful if other websites > use a similar infrastructure to http://fedoraproject.org which uses > moimmoin for the wiki and Plone is being staged for the CMS. Hi Rahul, I think the biggest problem infrastructure-wise is the lack of approved webforum solution. Fedora-France's current heart is a PHP forum. (does not fit in static or python) Regards, -- Nicolas Mailhot -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: Ceci est une partie de message num?riquement sign?e URL: From tejasdinkar at gmail.com Sat Sep 2 18:08:13 2006 From: tejasdinkar at gmail.com (Tejas Dinkar) Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2006 23:38:13 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Ambassadors Recognition Awards, round 2 In-Reply-To: <7f617d270608310906p4bee5c2ekcab0bc095c0aa56d@mail.gmail.com> References: <7f617d270608310906p4bee5c2ekcab0bc095c0aa56d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1157220493.2181.5.camel@dragon.gja.in> On Thu, 2006-08-31 at 12:06 -0400, Alex Maier wrote: > It is my pleasure to announce the winners of the next round of the > Fedora Ambassadors Recognition Awards! Congrats to all :) Enjoy your prize, and don't forget. WE WANT PHOTOS!!! Gja From splinux at fedoraproject.org Sat Sep 2 18:19:09 2006 From: splinux at fedoraproject.org (Damien Durand) Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2006 20:19:09 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Opening up French ambassadors list archive and sharing infrastructure In-Reply-To: <1157219965.12243.17.camel@rousalka.dyndns.org> References: <44F9C3A7.804@fedoraproject.org> <1157219965.12243.17.camel@rousalka.dyndns.org> Message-ID: I will speak with William about the open archives at our next meeting. About php, it's really a problem if we want to move fedora-fr to the red hat servers, so a plone/moinmoin/planetplanet will be the best solution. About the planet, what do you think about a french part on http://planet.fedoraproject.org like http://planet.gnome.org/soc2006/ or http://www.gnome.org/projects/wsop/ ? I 2006/9/2, Nicolas Mailhot : > > Le samedi 02 septembre 2006 ? 23:17 +0530, Rahul a ?crit : > > > Also I see that a migration to other CMS systems is being considered > > (http://www.llaumgui.com/post/Reflexion-sur-Fedora-France-Xoops-et-lhebergement > ) > > for Fedora France website. It would be quite useful if other websites > > use a similar infrastructure to http://fedoraproject.org which uses > > moimmoin for the wiki and Plone is being staged for the CMS. > > Hi Rahul, > > I think the biggest problem infrastructure-wise is the lack of approved > webforum solution. Fedora-France's current heart is a PHP forum. (does > not fit in static or python) > > Regards, > > -- > Nicolas Mailhot > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tchung at fedoraproject.org Sat Sep 2 18:47:29 2006 From: tchung at fedoraproject.org (Thomas Chung) Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2006 11:47:29 -0700 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: [Fedora-marketing-list] Gathering people for Fedora Free Media In-Reply-To: <1157188239.16511.10.camel@redhat> References: <1157188239.16511.10.camel@redhat> Message-ID: <369bce3b0609021147m3715cd9dx7978f577e629df38@mail.gmail.com> On 9/2/06, Pawel Sadowski wrote: > Hi, > > I would like to inform I have announced at www.fedora.pl (Polish Site > and Support Forum) about the Fedora Free Media Project. I have explained > how it works and informed how to contact me for people who would be > interested in helping, as the help would be very valuable for the Fedora > Project. I hope there will be at least few people willing. If so, I > would create Free Media Program Poland, similarly to Free Media Program > Brazil and India. There are many requests from Poland, so it would be > very helpful if there were more contributors involved. In this way we > could fulfill more requests, who knows - maybe all of them :) I hope I > will gather some peope and we will together help in spreading Fedora :) > > Regards, > Pawel Sadowski Thank you for your initiative and we'll launch Free Media Program Poland officially. Regards, -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung From tchung at fedoraproject.org Sat Sep 2 18:57:20 2006 From: tchung at fedoraproject.org (Thomas Chung) Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2006 11:57:20 -0700 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: [Fedora-marketing-list] Gathering people for Fedora Free Media In-Reply-To: <1157188239.16511.10.camel@redhat> References: <1157188239.16511.10.camel@redhat> Message-ID: <369bce3b0609021157s3ff6e53bp51fe53ab50d33f42@mail.gmail.com> On 9/2/06, Pawel Sadowski wrote: > Hi, > > I would like to inform I have announced at www.fedora.pl (Polish Site > and Support Forum) about the Fedora Free Media Project. I have explained > how it works and informed how to contact me for people who would be > interested in helping, as the help would be very valuable for the Fedora > Project. I hope there will be at least few people willing. If so, I > would create Free Media Program Poland, similarly to Free Media Program > Brazil and India. There are many requests from Poland, so it would be > very helpful if there were more contributors involved. In this way we > could fulfill more requests, who knows - maybe all of them :) I hope I > will gather some peope and we will together help in spreading Fedora :) > > Regards, > Pawel Sadowski Pawel, You're now officially the coordinator for FreeMedia Program Poland. Please maintain following wiki site: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution/FreeMedia/Poland Regards, -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Sat Sep 2 19:27:32 2006 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul) Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 00:57:32 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Opening up French ambassadors list archive and sharing infrastructure In-Reply-To: References: <44F9C3A7.804@fedoraproject.org> <1157219965.12243.17.camel@rousalka.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <44F9DB24.3030705@fedoraproject.org> Damien Durand wrote: > I will speak with William about the open archives at our next meeting. > About php, it's really a problem if we want to move fedora-fr to the red > hat servers, so a plone/moinmoin/planetplanet will be the best solution. Hold on a minute. fedoraproject.org isnt hosted on Red Hat servers either. It is hosted in Duke university servers. I have no problem with fedora-fr using their own infrastructure to host anything they want including PHP on their systems. All I want is for you guys to consider using similar software on both these servers so that we could learn from each other experiences, share system administration work or move content between these websites more easily. > About the planet, what do you think about a french part on > http://planet.fedoraproject.org like http://planet.gnome.org/soc2006/ or > http://www.gnome.org/projects/wsop/ > ? I Not sure what you mean here. If you mean a separate language specific feed in planet.fedoraproject.org I believe Seth Vidal was already talking about that. You will have to contact the infrastructure team to implement those changes. Rahul From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Sat Sep 2 19:28:34 2006 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul) Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 00:58:34 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Opening up French ambassadors list archive and sharing infrastructure In-Reply-To: <1157219965.12243.17.camel@rousalka.dyndns.org> References: <44F9C3A7.804@fedoraproject.org> <1157219965.12243.17.camel@rousalka.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <44F9DB62.3060705@fedoraproject.org> Nicolas Mailhot wrote: > Le samedi 02 septembre 2006 ? 23:17 +0530, Rahul a ?crit : > >> Also I see that a migration to other CMS systems is being considered >> (http://www.llaumgui.com/post/Reflexion-sur-Fedora-France-Xoops-et-lhebergement) >> for Fedora France website. It would be quite useful if other websites >> use a similar infrastructure to http://fedoraproject.org which uses >> moimmoin for the wiki and Plone is being staged for the CMS. > > Hi Rahul, > > I think the biggest problem infrastructure-wise is the lack of approved > webforum solution. Fedora-France's current heart is a PHP forum. (does > not fit in static or python) > You could continue using that forum but share rest of the infrastructure. Rahul From splinux at fedoraproject.org Sun Sep 3 05:50:33 2006 From: splinux at fedoraproject.org (Damien Durand) Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 07:50:33 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Opening up French ambassadors list archive and sharing infrastructure In-Reply-To: <44F9DB62.3060705@fedoraproject.org> References: <44F9C3A7.804@fedoraproject.org> <1157219965.12243.17.camel@rousalka.dyndns.org> <44F9DB62.3060705@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: Sorry, yes I spoke about the duke servers :) Are you sur about php? on the Duke servers? Hmm About planet, yes, we must speak with seth and the infrastucture team. 2006/9/2, Rahul : > > Nicolas Mailhot wrote: > > Le samedi 02 septembre 2006 ? 23:17 +0530, Rahul a ?crit : > > > >> Also I see that a migration to other CMS systems is being considered > >> ( > http://www.llaumgui.com/post/Reflexion-sur-Fedora-France-Xoops-et-lhebergement > ) > >> for Fedora France website. It would be quite useful if other websites > >> use a similar infrastructure to http://fedoraproject.org which uses > >> moimmoin for the wiki and Plone is being staged for the CMS. > > > > Hi Rahul, > > > > I think the biggest problem infrastructure-wise is the lack of approved > > webforum solution. Fedora-France's current heart is a PHP forum. (does > > not fit in static or python) > > > > You could continue using that forum but share rest of the infrastructure. > > Rahul > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hoffmann at redhat.com Sun Sep 3 08:44:39 2006 From: hoffmann at redhat.com (William HOFFMANN) Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 10:44:39 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Opening up French ambassadors list archive and sharing infrastructure In-Reply-To: <44F9C3A7.804@fedoraproject.org> References: <44F9C3A7.804@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <44FA95F7.6090808@redhat.com> Rahul wrote: > Hi Hi Rahul, > > Is there a reason why the French ambassadors list archives at > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fr-list is only available > to list members I'm managing the French Ambassador mailing-list.... it is only available to list member because I4ve made a lot of testing and forgot to open itto everybody .... so I think the problem will be solved shortly ;). Cheers -- --- - William HOFFMANN GnuPG ID : A2C85378 - Red Hat GLS Instructor RHCE RHCX - http://people.redhat.com/~hoffmann From mcgiwer at fedoraproject.org Sun Sep 3 11:02:01 2006 From: mcgiwer at fedoraproject.org (Pawel Sadowski) Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 13:02:01 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: [Fedora-freemedia-list] Re: [Fedora-marketing-list] Gathering people for Fedora Free Media In-Reply-To: <369bce3b0609021157s3ff6e53bp51fe53ab50d33f42@mail.gmail.com> References: <1157188239.16511.10.camel@redhat> <369bce3b0609021157s3ff6e53bp51fe53ab50d33f42@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1157281321.3397.25.camel@redhat> On 02-09-2006, sun at 11:57 -0700, Thomas Chung wrote: > On 9/2/06, Pawel Sadowski wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I would like to inform I have announced at www.fedora.pl (Polish Site > > and Support Forum) about the Fedora Free Media Project. I have explained > > how it works and informed how to contact me for people who would be > > interested in helping, as the help would be very valuable for the Fedora > > Project. I hope there will be at least few people willing. If so, I > > would create Free Media Program Poland, similarly to Free Media Program > > Brazil and India. There are many requests from Poland, so it would be > > very helpful if there were more contributors involved. In this way we > > could fulfill more requests, who knows - maybe all of them :) I hope I > > will gather some peope and we will together help in spreading Fedora :) > > > > Regards, > > Pawel Sadowski > > Pawel, > You're now officially the coordinator for FreeMedia Program Poland. > Please maintain following wiki site: > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution/FreeMedia/Poland Ok, thanks ;) Regards, Pawel From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Sun Sep 3 16:03:05 2006 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul) Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 21:33:05 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Opening up French ambassadors list archive and sharing infrastructure In-Reply-To: References: <44F9C3A7.804@fedoraproject.org> <1157219965.12243.17.camel@rousalka.dyndns.org> <44F9DB62.3060705@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <44FAFCB9.3050701@fedoraproject.org> Damien Durand wrote: > Sorry, yes I spoke about the duke servers :) Are you sur about php? on > the Duke servers? Hmm I never said PHP should be installed on Duke servers. Its not necessary. Fedora France can continue using its own infrastructure but using similar software. Is that clear? Rahul From thomas.canniot at laposte.net Sun Sep 3 16:14:23 2006 From: thomas.canniot at laposte.net (Thomas Canniot) Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 18:14:23 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] REMINDER French Meeting today 1830 UTC Message-ID: <1157300063.2837.19.camel@MrTomLinux.workstation> This mail is a reminder for today?s meeting for French ambassadors and interested people. 2006-09-03 / 18:30 UTC IRC: freenode #fedora-mktg-fr Ce mail est un rappel pour la r?union des ambassadeurs francophones, qui aura lieu ce dimanche (3 sept.) ? 20h30 heure de Paris sur IRC (freenode) #fedora-mktg-fr . -- Thomas Canniot http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasCanniot -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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In general, the > policy in the mailing lists is to keep the archives open and lists such > as Fedora maintainers and Fedora Advisory Board offer read only lists > for other people to subscribe and watch the discussions. > > Can we consider opening up the list archives to the public for the > Fedora ambassadors list? > > Also I see that a migration to other CMS systems is being considered > (http://www.llaumgui.com/post/Reflexion-sur-Fedora-France-Xoops-et-lhebergement) > for Fedora France website. It would be quite useful if other websites > use a similar infrastructure to http://fedoraproject.org which uses > moimmoin for the wiki and Plone is being staged for the CMS. > > Having similar infrastructure would help in sharing content and sysadmin > work among other reasons. > > > Rahul Hi, I think Fedora-france is more a website to consider as www.fedoraforum.org than a pale copy of fedoraproject.org. So we really need an efficient, robust, lightweight forum, like PunBB. About the wiki, I personnaly tell that using moinmoin is very difficult and completely unintuitive. That's my point of view. Then, it is not very well translated into French. Dokuwiki is a very complete wiki and easy to use. See it as a long dream wiki we would have liked to have for ages. :) About Plone, I don't really think we do need an entire CMS. Our CMS actually helps us to manage the wiki (dedicated tool for XOOPS), the forum (a dedicated forum created for XOOPS CMS) and a planet (dedicated tool for XOOPS again). What we would like to do is : get rid of XOOPS. It's very heavy, dedicated tools/plugins are not as good as stand alone solutions and it makes websites look ugly. We would like to have a website using standalone elements so as not to be stuck to one CMS, and to be free to do what we want with each separate elements. 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My advice is to contact http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/GregDeKoenigsberg He is responsible for the logos on the T.Shirts and the CI Greetings from Austria, Claus On Mon, 2006-09-04 at 00:23 +0200, Thomas Canniot wrote: > As we are planning Install Parties (at least 2) in France during > October, we are looking for having Ambassador Tshirt, so as to be highly > visible and accessible by people. > > This may look like this, made on spreadshirt.net (see joined files). > > Do we need any Famsco approvement for them ? > Could they be reimbursed or not (there will be only one tshirt by french > ambassador)? (I don't think they would). > > Thanks > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Mon Sep 4 11:55:37 2006 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul) Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 17:25:37 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Ambassador t-shirts In-Reply-To: <1157322180.2837.72.camel@MrTomLinux.workstation> References: <1157322180.2837.72.camel@MrTomLinux.workstation> Message-ID: <44FC1439.8040609@fedoraproject.org> Thomas Canniot wrote: > As we are planning Install Parties (at least 2) in France during > October, we are looking for having Ambassador Tshirt, so as to be highly > visible and accessible by people. > > This may look like this, made on spreadshirt.net (see joined files). > > Do we need any Famsco approvement for them ? You would need approval to use the logo until we get our usage guidelines in place to pre approve specific cases. Copying Greg Dek. > Could they be reimbursed or not (there will be only one tshirt by french > ambassador)? (I don't think they would). > It wouldnt be very cost effective to reimburse on individual items. Transaction costs would frequently be higher than material costs in such cases. Rahul From thomas.canniot at laposte.net Mon Sep 4 12:07:48 2006 From: thomas.canniot at laposte.net (Thomas Canniot) Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 14:07:48 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Ambassador t-shirts In-Reply-To: <44FC1439.8040609@fedoraproject.org> References: <1157322180.2837.72.camel@MrTomLinux.workstation> <44FC1439.8040609@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <1157371668.2837.87.camel@MrTomLinux.workstation> Le lundi 04 septembre 2006 ? 17:25 +0530, Rahul a ?crit : > Thomas Canniot wrote: > > As we are planning Install Parties (at least 2) in France during > > October, we are looking for having Ambassador Tshirt, so as to be highly > > visible and accessible by people. > > > > This may look like this, made on spreadshirt.net (see joined files). > > > > Do we need any Famsco approvement for them ? > > You would need approval to use the logo until we get our usage > guidelines in place to pre approve specific cases. Copying Greg Dek. > > > Could they be reimbursed or not (there will be only one tshirt by french > > ambassador)? (I don't think they would). > > > > It wouldnt be very cost effective to reimburse on individual items. > Transaction costs would frequently be higher than material costs in such > cases. > I know, that's why I wrote that i was quite sure it would not be reimbursed. It was just to let everybody know about the idea. > Rahul > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list -- Thomas Canniot http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasCanniot From mcgiwer at fedoraproject.org Mon Sep 4 17:27:50 2006 From: mcgiwer at fedoraproject.org (Pawel Sadowski) Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 19:27:50 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Open Source in school presentation Message-ID: <1157390870.5669.24.camel@redhat> Hi everybody, On 22-24 September there will be a conference "Open Source in Administration and Education" in Warsaw. I will have a speech on "Open Source in school". I will also have a booth with Fedora gadgets (T- shirts, DVDs and leaflets). The presentation time will be something about 30 minutes. I would like to ask you for an idea on what I can say. I have a preliminary sketch of the presentation, but would like to ask you for a feedback. I have downloaded Linux EduCD, a Live-CD focused on the applications for school and will install some packages used there to show during the presentation. Do you have any other ideas what I can show? I have added the event to FedoraEvents. Its website: www.educon.pl. Regards, Pawel Sadowski From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Mon Sep 4 17:39:53 2006 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul) Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 23:09:53 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Open Source in school presentation In-Reply-To: <1157390870.5669.24.camel@redhat> References: <1157390870.5669.24.camel@redhat> Message-ID: <44FC64E9.30504@fedoraproject.org> Pawel Sadowski wrote: > Hi everybody, > > On 22-24 September there will be a conference "Open Source in > Administration and Education" in Warsaw. I will have a speech on "Open > Source in school". I will also have a booth with Fedora gadgets (T- > shirts, DVDs and leaflets). The presentation time will be something > about 30 minutes. I would like to ask you for an idea on what I can say. > I have a preliminary sketch of the presentation, but would like to ask > you for a feedback. I have downloaded Linux EduCD, a Live-CD focused on > the applications for school and will install some packages used there to > show during the presentation. Do you have any other ideas what I can > show? > > I have added the event to FedoraEvents. Its website: www.educon.pl. > > Regards, > Pawel Sadowski > > -- Kindly add more information to Fedora Events page at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents. If you could show us the presentation, we can help improve it. Rahul From mcgiwer at fedoraproject.org Mon Sep 4 17:44:39 2006 From: mcgiwer at fedoraproject.org (Pawel Sadowski) Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 19:44:39 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Open Source in school presentation In-Reply-To: <44FC64E9.30504@fedoraproject.org> References: <1157390870.5669.24.camel@redhat> <44FC64E9.30504@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <1157391879.5669.30.camel@redhat> On 04-09-2006, mon at 23:09 +0530, Rahul wrote: > Pawel Sadowski wrote: > > Hi everybody, > > > > On 22-24 September there will be a conference "Open Source in > > Administration and Education" in Warsaw. I will have a speech on "Open > > Source in school". I will also have a booth with Fedora gadgets (T- > > shirts, DVDs and leaflets). The presentation time will be something > > about 30 minutes. I would like to ask you for an idea on what I can say. > > I have a preliminary sketch of the presentation, but would like to ask > > you for a feedback. I have downloaded Linux EduCD, a Live-CD focused on > > the applications for school and will install some packages used there to > > show during the presentation. Do you have any other ideas what I can > > show? > > > > I have added the event to FedoraEvents. Its website: www.educon.pl. > > > > Regards, > > Pawel Sadowski > > > > -- > > Kindly add more information to Fedora Events page at > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents. If you could show us the > presentation, we can help improve it. It will be rather a live-show than just presentation. As slides, I will show just the intro information page about the topic and me, questions & answers slide and a closing slide. The rest will be presentation of applications that can be used in school (both, for teachers and students). I would be grateful if you could propose some worth-showing apps to present. All based on Fedora of course ;) Regards, Pawel From mcgiwer at fedoraproject.org Mon Sep 4 17:47:48 2006 From: mcgiwer at fedoraproject.org (Pawel Sadowski) Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 19:47:48 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Open Source in school presentation In-Reply-To: <44FC64E9.30504@fedoraproject.org> References: <1157390870.5669.24.camel@redhat> <44FC64E9.30504@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <1157392068.5669.32.camel@redhat> On 04-09-2006, mon at 23:09 +0530, Rahul wrote: > Kindly add more information to Fedora Events page at > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents. If you could show us the > presentation, we can help improve it. Done. Regards, Pawel From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Mon Sep 4 18:02:47 2006 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul) Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 23:32:47 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Open Source in school presentation In-Reply-To: <1157391879.5669.30.camel@redhat> References: <1157390870.5669.24.camel@redhat> <44FC64E9.30504@fedoraproject.org> <1157391879.5669.30.camel@redhat> Message-ID: <44FC6A47.1030802@fedoraproject.org> Pawel Sadowski wrote: > It will be rather a live-show than just presentation. As slides, I will > show just the intro information page about the topic and me, questions & > answers slide and a closing slide. The rest will be presentation of > applications that can be used in school (both, for teachers and > students). I would be grateful if you could propose some worth-showing > apps to present. > > All based on Fedora of course ;) > I believe Kushal (CC'ed) was looking for a similar set of apps. Maybe he can help out here. Ideally we would have a Fedora Extras Edu SIG to do this job. We are also working on comps file there to categorize applications better. Meanwhile depending on age group, there a number of applications ranging from Tux typing to KDE edu set of apps at http://edu.kde.org/ and GNOME apps at http://www.gnomefiles.org/subcategory.php?sub_cat_id=49. Music and Photo managers, Chat apps like gaim (esp the ability to connect to multiple protocols), office suites (for school work) and games are particular attractive to teenagers. The Free software nature of Fedora also means that you dont have any boundaries or padlocks to prevent you from learning anything in it. All of what we provide right from the kernel to the games are all open to learn from, modify and play with. That is also worth pointing out. Start with things they would be interested in instead of drowning them in the history of the project and list of sub projects. Rahul From mcgiwer at fedoraproject.org Mon Sep 4 18:12:12 2006 From: mcgiwer at fedoraproject.org (Pawel Sadowski) Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 20:12:12 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Open Source in school presentation In-Reply-To: <44FC6A47.1030802@fedoraproject.org> References: <1157390870.5669.24.camel@redhat> <44FC64E9.30504@fedoraproject.org> <1157391879.5669.30.camel@redhat> <44FC6A47.1030802@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <1157393532.5669.38.camel@redhat> On 04-09-2006, mon at 23:32 +0530, Rahul wrote: > Pawel Sadowski wrote: > > > It will be rather a live-show than just presentation. As slides, I will > > show just the intro information page about the topic and me, questions & > > answers slide and a closing slide. The rest will be presentation of > > applications that can be used in school (both, for teachers and > > students). I would be grateful if you could propose some worth-showing > > apps to present. > > > > All based on Fedora of course ;) > > > > I believe Kushal (CC'ed) was looking for a similar set of apps. Maybe he > can help out here. Ideally we would have a Fedora Extras Edu SIG to do > this job. We are also working on comps file there to categorize > applications better. I remember there was something like that... maybe he will have some advices ;) > Meanwhile depending on age group, there a number of applications ranging > from Tux typing to KDE edu set of apps at http://edu.kde.org/ and GNOME > apps at http://www.gnomefiles.org/subcategory.php?sub_cat_id=49. > > Music and Photo managers, Chat apps like gaim (esp the ability to > connect to multiple protocols), office suites (for school work) and > games are particular attractive to teenagers. > > The Free software nature of Fedora also means that you dont have any > boundaries or padlocks to prevent you from learning anything in it. All > of what we provide right from the kernel to the games are all open to > learn from, modify and play with. That is also worth pointing out. > > Start with things they would be interested in instead of drowning them > in the history of the project and list of sub projects. Yeah - I know. This is what I wanted to say before, but it would be a little bit off-topic ;) Thanks for your advice. Regards, Pawel From lxmaier at gmail.com Tue Sep 5 14:33:22 2006 From: lxmaier at gmail.com (Alex Maier) Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 10:33:22 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] Ambassador t-shirts In-Reply-To: <1157371668.2837.87.camel@MrTomLinux.workstation> References: <1157322180.2837.72.camel@MrTomLinux.workstation> <44FC1439.8040609@fedoraproject.org> <1157371668.2837.87.camel@MrTomLinux.workstation> Message-ID: <7f617d270609050733m2303586drf870822667966b97@mail.gmail.com> This looks great--and since you have not done any changes to the logo itself, and left enough white space around it, you are good to go. Cheers, a On 9/4/06, Thomas Canniot wrote: > Le lundi 04 septembre 2006 ? 17:25 +0530, Rahul a ?crit : > > Thomas Canniot wrote: > > > As we are planning Install Parties (at least 2) in France during > > > October, we are looking for having Ambassador Tshirt, so as to be highly > > > visible and accessible by people. > > > > > > This may look like this, made on spreadshirt.net (see joined files). > > > > > > Do we need any Famsco approvement for them ? > > > > You would need approval to use the logo until we get our usage > > guidelines in place to pre approve specific cases. Copying Greg Dek. > > > > > Could they be reimbursed or not (there will be only one tshirt by french > > > ambassador)? (I don't think they would). > > > > > > > It wouldnt be very cost effective to reimburse on individual items. > > Transaction costs would frequently be higher than material costs in such > > cases. > > > I know, that's why I wrote that i was quite sure it would not be > reimbursed. > > It was just to let everybody know about the idea. > > > Rahul > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- > Thomas Canniot > http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasCanniot > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- Alex Maier http://amaier.net From thomas.canniot at laposte.net Tue Sep 5 21:15:54 2006 From: thomas.canniot at laposte.net (Thomas Canniot) Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 23:15:54 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Ambassador t-shirts In-Reply-To: <7f617d270609050733m2303586drf870822667966b97@mail.gmail.com> References: <1157322180.2837.72.camel@MrTomLinux.workstation> <44FC1439.8040609@fedoraproject.org> <1157371668.2837.87.camel@MrTomLinux.workstation> <7f617d270609050733m2303586drf870822667966b97@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1157490954.2883.8.camel@MrTomLinux.workstation> Le mardi 05 septembre 2006 ? 10:33 -0400, Alex Maier a ?crit : > This looks great--and since you have not done any changes to the logo > itself, and left enough white space around it, you are good to go. > > Cheers, > a Thanks. Maybe we are going to make little changes like not having our name on the tshirts, so to be able to wear more often. Text on the t shirt may be : "I speak Fedora" and its translation following the native language of the ambassadors (French for us). It would also allow us to get reimbursed. What do you think ? > > > On 9/4/06, Thomas Canniot wrote: > > Le lundi 04 septembre 2006 ? 17:25 +0530, Rahul a ?crit : > > > Thomas Canniot wrote: > > > > As we are planning Install Parties (at least 2) in France during > > > > October, we are looking for having Ambassador Tshirt, so as to be highly > > > > visible and accessible by people. > > > > > > > > This may look like this, made on spreadshirt.net (see joined files). > > > > > > > > Do we need any Famsco approvement for them ? > > > > > > You would need approval to use the logo until we get our usage > > > guidelines in place to pre approve specific cases. Copying Greg Dek. > > > > > > > Could they be reimbursed or not (there will be only one tshirt by french > > > > ambassador)? (I don't think they would). > > > > > > > > > > It wouldnt be very cost effective to reimburse on individual items. > > > Transaction costs would frequently be higher than material costs in such > > > cases. > > > > > I know, that's why I wrote that i was quite sure it would not be > > reimbursed. > > > > It was just to let everybody know about the idea. > > > > > Rahul > > > > > > -- > > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- > > Thomas Canniot > > http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasCanniot > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > -- Thomas Canniot http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasCanniot From lxmaier at gmail.com Tue Sep 5 21:39:10 2006 From: lxmaier at gmail.com (Alex Maier) Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 17:39:10 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] Ambassador t-shirts In-Reply-To: <1157490954.2883.8.camel@MrTomLinux.workstation> References: <1157322180.2837.72.camel@MrTomLinux.workstation> <44FC1439.8040609@fedoraproject.org> <1157371668.2837.87.camel@MrTomLinux.workstation> <7f617d270609050733m2303586drf870822667966b97@mail.gmail.com> <1157490954.2883.8.camel@MrTomLinux.workstation> Message-ID: <7f617d270609051439l61e850f5p75f82f3ec5d085e2@mail.gmail.com> Thomas, Sure, you can request some reimbursement--simply submit the proposed budget, a short justification of expense, as outlined on http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/SteeringCommittee/Reimbursement Send your proposal to famsco and we'll discuss and possibly approve it. Cheers, a On 9/5/06, Thomas Canniot wrote: > Le mardi 05 septembre 2006 ? 10:33 -0400, Alex Maier a ?crit : > > This looks great--and since you have not done any changes to the logo > > itself, and left enough white space around it, you are good to go. > > > > Cheers, > > a > > Thanks. > > Maybe we are going to make little changes like not having our name on > the tshirts, so to be able to wear more often. > > Text on the t shirt may be : "I speak Fedora" and its translation > following the native language of the ambassadors (French for us). > > It would also allow us to get reimbursed. > > What do you think ? > > > > > > On 9/4/06, Thomas Canniot wrote: > > > Le lundi 04 septembre 2006 ? 17:25 +0530, Rahul a ?crit : > > > > Thomas Canniot wrote: > > > > > As we are planning Install Parties (at least 2) in France during > > > > > October, we are looking for having Ambassador Tshirt, so as to be highly > > > > > visible and accessible by people. > > > > > > > > > > This may look like this, made on spreadshirt.net (see joined files). > > > > > > > > > > Do we need any Famsco approvement for them ? > > > > > > > > You would need approval to use the logo until we get our usage > > > > guidelines in place to pre approve specific cases. Copying Greg Dek. > > > > > > > > > Could they be reimbursed or not (there will be only one tshirt by french > > > > > ambassador)? (I don't think they would). > > > > > > > > > > > > > It wouldnt be very cost effective to reimburse on individual items. > > > > Transaction costs would frequently be higher than material costs in such > > > > cases. > > > > > > > I know, that's why I wrote that i was quite sure it would not be > > > reimbursed. > > > > > > It was just to let everybody know about the idea. > > > > > > > Rahul > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > -- > > > Thomas Canniot > > > http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasCanniot > > > > > > -- > > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > > > > -- > Thomas Canniot > http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasCanniot > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- Alex Maier http://amaier.net From guillermo.gomez at gmail.com Tue Sep 5 22:16:08 2006 From: guillermo.gomez at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Guillermo_G=F3mez_S=2E=22?=) Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 18:16:08 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] Ambassador t-shirts In-Reply-To: <7f617d270609050733m2303586drf870822667966b97@mail.gmail.com> References: <1157322180.2837.72.camel@MrTomLinux.workstation> <44FC1439.8040609@fedoraproject.org> <1157371668.2837.87.camel@MrTomLinux.workstation> <7f617d270609050733m2303586drf870822667966b97@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <44FDF728.2050200@gmail.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Alex Maier wrote: > This looks great--and since you have not done any changes to the logo > itself, and left enough white space around it, you are good to go. > > Cheers, > a > > > On 9/4/06, Thomas Canniot wrote: >> Le lundi 04 septembre 2006 ? 17:25 +0530, Rahul a ?crit : >> > Thomas Canniot wrote: >> > > As we are planning Install Parties (at least 2) in France during >> > > October, we are looking for having Ambassador Tshirt, so as to >> be highly >> > > visible and accessible by people. >> > > >> > > This may look like this, made on spreadshirt.net (see joined >> files). >> > > >> > > Do we need any Famsco approvement for them ? >> > >> > You would need approval to use the logo until we get our usage >> > guidelines in place to pre approve specific cases. Copying Greg Dek. >> > >> > > Could they be reimbursed or not (there will be only one tshirt >> by french >> > > ambassador)? (I don't think they would). >> > > >> > >> > It wouldnt be very cost effective to reimburse on individual items. >> > Transaction costs would frequently be higher than material costs >> in such >> > cases. >> > >> I know, that's why I wrote that i was quite sure it would not be >> reimbursed. >> >> It was just to let everybody know about the idea. >> >> > Rahul >> > >> > -- >> > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> -- >> Thomas Canniot >> http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasCanniot >> >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> > > A related issue downhere with the logo use. I've sent a modified version but never got an answer. We are voting for a new logo for our newsletter. It would be nice that someone with enough power take a look at http://www.fedora-ve.org (modified logo submitted) and http://www.fedora-ve.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=category§ionid=5&id=19&Itemid=44 (newsletters logo) to give us some feedback if some of them actually "respects" or not the guidelines. Upcoming event in Venezuela (sep29th), the first one, then it would be nice to set this logo issues asap to produce our material. thnks kr - -- Gomix Guillermo G?mez S. cms fedora-ve http://mambo.fedora-ve.org soporte fedora-ve en irc.freenode.net, canal fedora-ve lista email fedora-ve at googlegroups.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFE/fcn0XfK1zIFpGQRAsEhAJwM50YwoCPXOSEiixFBxEzyV4gUgwCgvcAt fEs/PHlQFIoeH3zcb2BxJMo= =Hwn6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From lxmaier at gmail.com Tue Sep 5 22:20:06 2006 From: lxmaier at gmail.com (Alex Maier) Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 18:20:06 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] UC Berkeley Webcast In-Reply-To: <369bce3b0609051509k48cdfb1ale4c4cd87fc577f8f@mail.gmail.com> References: <369bce3b0609051509k48cdfb1ale4c4cd87fc577f8f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <7f617d270609051520w345f9ef7p38a528ebc6287514@mail.gmail.com> Hey folks, have a look! This is true Open Source spirit at work :) Cheers, a ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Thomas Chung Date: Sep 5, 2006 6:09 PM Subject: [Famsco-list] UC Berkeley Webcast To: famsco-list at redhat.com As you know Fedora FreeMedia Program donated 40 Fedora Core DVDs to UC Berkeley Linux Users Group last week. I just found out UC Berkeley is now offering many of their courses beginning Spring 2006 via Webcast: http://webcast.berkeley.edu/courses/index.php Here is one course should be interested to Open Source Community: http://webcast.berkeley.edu/courses/archive.php?seriesid=1906978370 Course Name: InfoSys 296A-2 / Law276.8 Open Source Development and Distribution of Digital Information: Technical, Economic, Social, and Legal Perspectives Cheers! -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung -- Famsco-list mailing list Famsco-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/famsco-list -- Alex Maier http://amaier.net From lxmaier at gmail.com Tue Sep 5 22:23:34 2006 From: lxmaier at gmail.com (Alex Maier) Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 18:23:34 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] Ambassador t-shirts In-Reply-To: <44FDF728.2050200@gmail.com> References: <1157322180.2837.72.camel@MrTomLinux.workstation> <44FC1439.8040609@fedoraproject.org> <1157371668.2837.87.camel@MrTomLinux.workstation> <7f617d270609050733m2303586drf870822667966b97@mail.gmail.com> <44FDF728.2050200@gmail.com> Message-ID: <7f617d270609051523x2f0b888ci51deeb70f0b05da7@mail.gmail.com> Guillermo, However nice the proposed design looks, it cannot be approved, because the logo itself should not be modified in any way EVER. Because it's a logo. Our logo is protected and "Fedora" is also a registered trademark--in the exact form as provided on http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Logo For admissible uses of the Fedora logo, please refer to: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Logo/UsageGuidelines Thank you very much, Alex On 9/5/06, "Guillermo G?mez S." wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Alex Maier wrote: > > This looks great--and since you have not done any changes to the logo > > itself, and left enough white space around it, you are good to go. > > > > Cheers, > > a > > > > > > On 9/4/06, Thomas Canniot wrote: > >> Le lundi 04 septembre 2006 ? 17:25 +0530, Rahul a ?crit : > >> > Thomas Canniot wrote: > >> > > As we are planning Install Parties (at least 2) in France during > >> > > October, we are looking for having Ambassador Tshirt, so as to > >> be highly > >> > > visible and accessible by people. > >> > > > >> > > This may look like this, made on spreadshirt.net (see joined > >> files). > >> > > > >> > > Do we need any Famsco approvement for them ? > >> > > >> > You would need approval to use the logo until we get our usage > >> > guidelines in place to pre approve specific cases. Copying Greg Dek. > >> > > >> > > Could they be reimbursed or not (there will be only one tshirt > >> by french > >> > > ambassador)? (I don't think they would). > >> > > > >> > > >> > It wouldnt be very cost effective to reimburse on individual items. > >> > Transaction costs would frequently be higher than material costs > >> in such > >> > cases. > >> > > >> I know, that's why I wrote that i was quite sure it would not be > >> reimbursed. > >> > >> It was just to let everybody know about the idea. > >> > >> > Rahul > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > >> > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > >> > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > >> -- > >> Thomas Canniot > >> http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasCanniot > >> > >> -- > >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > >> > > > > > > A related issue downhere with the logo use. > I've sent a modified version but never got an answer. > We are voting for a new logo for our newsletter. > It would be nice that someone with enough power take a look at > http://www.fedora-ve.org (modified logo submitted) > and > http://www.fedora-ve.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=category§ionid=5&id=19&Itemid=44 > > (newsletters logo) > to give us some feedback if some of them actually "respects" or not > the guidelines. > > Upcoming event in Venezuela (sep29th), the first one, then it would be > nice to set this logo issues asap to produce our material. > > thnks > > kr > > - -- > Gomix > Guillermo G?mez S. > cms fedora-ve http://mambo.fedora-ve.org > soporte fedora-ve en irc.freenode.net, canal fedora-ve > lista email fedora-ve at googlegroups.com > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQFE/fcn0XfK1zIFpGQRAsEhAJwM50YwoCPXOSEiixFBxEzyV4gUgwCgvcAt > fEs/PHlQFIoeH3zcb2BxJMo= > =Hwn6 > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- Alex Maier http://amaier.net From guillermo.gomez at gmail.com Wed Sep 6 12:30:13 2006 From: guillermo.gomez at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Guillermo_G=F3mez_S=2E=22?=) Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 08:30:13 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] Ambassador t-shirts In-Reply-To: <7f617d270609051523x2f0b888ci51deeb70f0b05da7@mail.gmail.com> References: <1157322180.2837.72.camel@MrTomLinux.workstation> <44FC1439.8040609@fedoraproject.org> <1157371668.2837.87.camel@MrTomLinux.workstation> <7f617d270609050733m2303586drf870822667966b97@mail.gmail.com> <44FDF728.2050200@gmail.com> <7f617d270609051523x2f0b888ci51deeb70f0b05da7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <44FEBF55.6030801@gmail.com> Alex Maier wrote: > Guillermo, > > However nice the proposed design looks, it cannot be approved, because > the logo itself should not be modified in any way EVER. Because it's a > logo. Our logo is protected and "Fedora" is also a registered > trademark--in the exact form as provided on > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Logo Ok ... Regarding the newsletter logo (Planeta Fedora), i'm wondering if we can make some modifications on those which do use the fedora logo to respect usage guidelines (spacing for example in a compound logo with both words). This is an example of what i mean (quick draft attached). I dont see any violation of use in this case,do u?. Would that be an acceptable case of good "use" for our newsletter compound logo? (logo attached) > > For admissible uses of the Fedora logo, please refer to: > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Logo/UsageGuidelines > > Thank you very much. thanks for your help. 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However, I was wondering if as Ambassador I can give Fedora Home made LiveCD with specific county configuration to people, organizations and companies ? Thanks in advance for you replies. Best Regards Fred ----------------------------------------------------- Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com Olpc mailing list olpc-open at laptop.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From santosh at fedoraproject.org Thu Sep 7 11:12:20 2006 From: santosh at fedoraproject.org (Santosh Kumar) Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 16:42:20 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] holidays In-Reply-To: <1157619431.3148.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1157574498.2997.78.camel@AMILO-GK.homenet.local> <1157619431.3148.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: Finally sometime for your family off your busy schedule???? i wish i could afford that..... have a wonderful time.... 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URL: From debo at casttechnologies.com Thu Sep 7 14:44:25 2006 From: debo at casttechnologies.com (DEBO OGUNRINDE) Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 13:44:25 -0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Information returns In-Reply-To: <3161376e0609070404v773a9784h7eba6c18e0f2b861@mail.gmail.com> References: <3161376e0609070404v773a9784h7eba6c18e0f2b861@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200609071344.25759.debo@casttechnologies.com> Hi People, I seem to support what Fredric has just said about the Ubuntu community. I have noticed the way they appeal to users with their brand. I also agree that its because of the LiveCD give-away. Through our marketing efforts, i have noticed that users feel safer with live CDs as they do not have to worry about the arduous tasks related to installation of linux. I feel a Fedora Live CD can make the brand more usable as some people fear the installation process not to wipe out their existing data with the use of a full install DVD. This is not to say that the DVD is not useful. I wont mind Fredric if u can make a Live Fedora CD so that we can distribute and use in marketing. Thanks On Thursday 07 September 2006 10:04 am, Frederic Hornain wrote: > Dear *, > > Already, for several month I have noticed an increase of ubuntu in private > utilisation and also as a linux discovery tool in professional word. > > That is just a fact. > I would only make remark you that ubuntu community is doing a great job. > Congratulation to them. > > And I belveive that is mostly due to their LiveCD. > It is easy to install, easy to give, easy to explain how to use it. > > So, all that to say that I am convinced that we need LiveCD. > Fortunatly, we have got kadishi ! :). > > However, I was wondering if as Ambassador I can give Fedora Home made > LiveCD with specific county configuration to people, organizations and > companies ? > > Thanks in advance for you replies. > > Best Regards > Fred > ----------------------------------------------------- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > Olpc mailing list > olpc-open at laptop.org -- DEBO OGUNRINDE CAST TECHNOLOGIES LIMITED TEL:+234-1-4358770, +234-8035900237 MAIL: debo at casttechnologies.com, debloxie at yahoo.com WEB: http://www.casttechnologies.com From tchung at fedoraproject.org Thu Sep 7 17:24:52 2006 From: tchung at fedoraproject.org (Thomas Chung) Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 10:24:52 -0700 Subject: [Ambassadors] Status Report - FreeMedia Message-ID: <369bce3b0609071024n2830616exed6fbd813492bdd4@mail.gmail.com> As of today, FreeMedia Program received over 181 requests[1] and we were able to fulfill 123 so far. We expect to reach our limit (200 requests) in a few days. [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution/FreeMedia/FC5DVD/September Regards, -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung From lxmaier at gmail.com Thu Sep 7 20:12:11 2006 From: lxmaier at gmail.com (Alex Maier) Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 16:12:11 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: Status Report - FreeMedia In-Reply-To: <369bce3b0609071024n2830616exed6fbd813492bdd4@mail.gmail.com> References: <369bce3b0609071024n2830616exed6fbd813492bdd4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <7f617d270609071312lfc0ececk74a5ac4283e7c35c@mail.gmail.com> Thank you for this update, Thomas! Great job with the program! a On 9/7/06, Thomas Chung wrote: > As of today, FreeMedia Program received over 181 requests[1] and we > were able to fulfill 123 so far. We expect to reach our limit (200 > requests) in a few days. > [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution/FreeMedia/FC5DVD/September > Regards, > -- > Thomas Chung > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung > -- Alex Maier http://amaier.net From lxmaier at gmail.com Thu Sep 7 20:13:55 2006 From: lxmaier at gmail.com (Alex Maier) Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 16:13:55 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] Information returns In-Reply-To: <3161376e0609070404v773a9784h7eba6c18e0f2b861@mail.gmail.com> References: <3161376e0609070404v773a9784h7eba6c18e0f2b861@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <7f617d270609071313p6f42bb50vaa118b30c83f59fd@mail.gmail.com> Fred, I think it is a great idea and you should definitely create and distribute such live CDs. Cheers, a On 9/7/06, Frederic Hornain wrote: > > Dear *, > > Already, for several month I have noticed an increase of ubuntu in private > utilisation and also as a linux discovery tool in professional word. > > That is just a fact. > > I would only make remark you that ubuntu community is doing a great job. > Congratulation to them. > > And I belveive that is mostly due to their LiveCD. > It is easy to install, easy to give, easy to explain how to use it. > > So, all that to say that I am convinced that we need LiveCD. > Fortunatly, we have got kadishi ! :). > > However, I was wondering if as Ambassador I can give Fedora Home made LiveCD > with specific county configuration to people, organizations and companies ? > > Thanks in advance for you replies. > > Best Regards > Fred > ----------------------------------------------------- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > Olpc mailing list > olpc-open at laptop.org > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > -- Alex Maier http://amaier.net From lxmaier at gmail.com Thu Sep 7 20:16:53 2006 From: lxmaier at gmail.com (Alex Maier) Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 16:16:53 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] Ambassador t-shirts In-Reply-To: <44FEBF55.6030801@gmail.com> References: <1157322180.2837.72.camel@MrTomLinux.workstation> <44FC1439.8040609@fedoraproject.org> <1157371668.2837.87.camel@MrTomLinux.workstation> <7f617d270609050733m2303586drf870822667966b97@mail.gmail.com> <44FDF728.2050200@gmail.com> <7f617d270609051523x2f0b888ci51deeb70f0b05da7@mail.gmail.com> <44FEBF55.6030801@gmail.com> Message-ID: <7f617d270609071316x1d8cb39dof49b00fb4e9ec4ef@mail.gmail.com> Guillermo, Please read the Usage Guidelines carefully--doing things like moving or completely removing the speech bubble from the Fedora logotype is not allowed. Also, please try to use the recommended URW font when using with the logo. I regret to say that the design as curretnly suggested cannot be approved. Thanks, a On 9/6/06, "Guillermo G?mez S." wrote: > Alex Maier wrote: > > Guillermo, > > > > However nice the proposed design looks, it cannot be approved, because > > the logo itself should not be modified in any way EVER. Because it's a > > logo. Our logo is protected and "Fedora" is also a registered > > trademark--in the exact form as provided on > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Logo > > Ok ... > > Regarding the newsletter logo (Planeta Fedora), i'm wondering if we can > make some modifications on those which do use the fedora logo to respect > usage guidelines (spacing for example in a compound logo with both words). > > This is an example of what i mean (quick draft attached). I dont see any > violation of use in this case,do u?. Would that be an acceptable case of > good "use" for our newsletter compound logo? (logo attached) > > > > > For admissible uses of the Fedora logo, please refer to: > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Logo/UsageGuidelines > > > > Thank you very much. > > thanks for your help. > Guillermo > > > Alex > > > > > > On 9/5/06, "Guillermo G?mez S." wrote: > > > > A related issue downhere with the logo use. > > I've sent a modified version but never got an answer. > > We are voting for a new logo for our newsletter. > > It would be nice that someone with enough power take a look at > > http://www.fedora-ve.org (modified logo submitted) > > and > > http://www.fedora-ve.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=category§ionid=5&id=19&Itemid=44 > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > -- Alex Maier http://amaier.net From thomas.canniot at laposte.net Thu Sep 7 20:35:08 2006 From: thomas.canniot at laposte.net (Thomas Canniot) Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 22:35:08 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Ambassador t-shirts In-Reply-To: <7f617d270609051439l61e850f5p75f82f3ec5d085e2@mail.gmail.com> References: <1157322180.2837.72.camel@MrTomLinux.workstation> <44FC1439.8040609@fedoraproject.org> <1157371668.2837.87.camel@MrTomLinux.workstation> <7f617d270609050733m2303586drf870822667966b97@mail.gmail.com> <1157490954.2883.8.camel@MrTomLinux.workstation> <7f617d270609051439l61e850f5p75f82f3ec5d085e2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1157661309.2838.86.camel@MrTomLinux.workstation> Le mardi 05 septembre 2006 ? 17:39 -0400, Alex Maier a ?crit : > Thomas, > > Sure, you can request some reimbursement--simply submit the proposed > budget, a short justification of expense, as outlined on > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/SteeringCommittee/Reimbursement > > Send your proposal to famsco and we'll discuss and possibly approve it. > > Cheers, > a > The document AmbassadorExpenseRequestAndReport.sxw does not exist on the Reimbursement page. can you fix this please ? > > On 9/5/06, Thomas Canniot wrote: > > Le mardi 05 septembre 2006 ? 10:33 -0400, Alex Maier a ?crit : > > > This looks great--and since you have not done any changes to the logo > > > itself, and left enough white space around it, you are good to go. > > > > > > Cheers, > > > a > > > > Thanks. > > > > Maybe we are going to make little changes like not having our name on > > the tshirts, so to be able to wear more often. > > > > Text on the t shirt may be : "I speak Fedora" and its translation > > following the native language of the ambassadors (French for us). > > > > It would also allow us to get reimbursed. > > > > What do you think ? > > > > > > > > > On 9/4/06, Thomas Canniot wrote: > > > > Le lundi 04 septembre 2006 ? 17:25 +0530, Rahul a ?crit : > > > > > Thomas Canniot wrote: > > > > > > As we are planning Install Parties (at least 2) in France during > > > > > > October, we are looking for having Ambassador Tshirt, so as to be highly > > > > > > visible and accessible by people. > > > > > > > > > > > > This may look like this, made on spreadshirt.net (see joined files). > > > > > > > > > > > > Do we need any Famsco approvement for them ? > > > > > > > > > > You would need approval to use the logo until we get our usage > > > > > guidelines in place to pre approve specific cases. Copying Greg Dek. > > > > > > > > > > > Could they be reimbursed or not (there will be only one tshirt by french > > > > > > ambassador)? (I don't think they would). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It wouldnt be very cost effective to reimburse on individual items. > > > > > Transaction costs would frequently be higher than material costs in such > > > > > cases. > > > > > > > > > I know, that's why I wrote that i was quite sure it would not be > > > > reimbursed. > > > > > > > > It was just to let everybody know about the idea. > > > > > > > > > Rahul > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > > > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > > > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > -- > > > > Thomas Canniot > > > > http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasCanniot > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Thomas Canniot > > http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasCanniot > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > -- Thomas Canniot http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasCanniot From lxmaier at gmail.com Thu Sep 7 22:03:27 2006 From: lxmaier at gmail.com (Alex Maier) Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 18:03:27 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] Ambassador t-shirts In-Reply-To: <1157661309.2838.86.camel@MrTomLinux.workstation> References: <1157322180.2837.72.camel@MrTomLinux.workstation> <44FC1439.8040609@fedoraproject.org> <1157371668.2837.87.camel@MrTomLinux.workstation> <7f617d270609050733m2303586drf870822667966b97@mail.gmail.com> <1157490954.2883.8.camel@MrTomLinux.workstation> <7f617d270609051439l61e850f5p75f82f3ec5d085e2@mail.gmail.com> <1157661309.2838.86.camel@MrTomLinux.workstation> Message-ID: <7f617d270609071503i67cbc23j48d2caeb71d6a703@mail.gmail.com> Fixed. a On 9/7/06, Thomas Canniot wrote: > Le mardi 05 septembre 2006 ? 17:39 -0400, Alex Maier a ?crit : > > Thomas, > > > > Sure, you can request some reimbursement--simply submit the proposed > > budget, a short justification of expense, as outlined on > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/SteeringCommittee/Reimbursement > > > > Send your proposal to famsco and we'll discuss and possibly approve it. > > > > Cheers, > > a > > > > The document AmbassadorExpenseRequestAndReport.sxw does not exist on the > Reimbursement page. can you fix this please ? > > > > > > On 9/5/06, Thomas Canniot wrote: > > > Le mardi 05 septembre 2006 ? 10:33 -0400, Alex Maier a ?crit : > > > > This looks great--and since you have not done any changes to the logo > > > > itself, and left enough white space around it, you are good to go. > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > a > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > Maybe we are going to make little changes like not having our name on > > > the tshirts, so to be able to wear more often. > > > > > > Text on the t shirt may be : "I speak Fedora" and its translation > > > following the native language of the ambassadors (French for us). > > > > > > It would also allow us to get reimbursed. > > > > > > What do you think ? > > > > > > > > > > > > On 9/4/06, Thomas Canniot wrote: > > > > > Le lundi 04 septembre 2006 ? 17:25 +0530, Rahul a ?crit : > > > > > > Thomas Canniot wrote: > > > > > > > As we are planning Install Parties (at least 2) in France during > > > > > > > October, we are looking for having Ambassador Tshirt, so as to be highly > > > > > > > visible and accessible by people. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This may look like this, made on spreadshirt.net (see joined files). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do we need any Famsco approvement for them ? > > > > > > > > > > > > You would need approval to use the logo until we get our usage > > > > > > guidelines in place to pre approve specific cases. Copying Greg Dek. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Could they be reimbursed or not (there will be only one tshirt by french > > > > > > > ambassador)? (I don't think they would). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It wouldnt be very cost effective to reimburse on individual items. > > > > > > Transaction costs would frequently be higher than material costs in such > > > > > > cases. > > > > > > > > > > > I know, that's why I wrote that i was quite sure it would not be > > > > > reimbursed. > > > > > > > > > > It was just to let everybody know about the idea. > > > > > > > > > > > Rahul > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > > > > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > > > > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > -- > > > > > Thomas Canniot > > > > > http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasCanniot > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > > > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > > > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Thomas Canniot > > > http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasCanniot > > > > > > -- > > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > > > > -- > Thomas Canniot > http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasCanniot > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- Alex Maier http://amaier.net From chitlesh at fedoraproject.org Thu Sep 7 22:07:16 2006 From: chitlesh at fedoraproject.org (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 00:07:16 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Information returns In-Reply-To: <7f617d270609071313p6f42bb50vaa118b30c83f59fd@mail.gmail.com> References: <3161376e0609070404v773a9784h7eba6c18e0f2b861@mail.gmail.com> <7f617d270609071313p6f42bb50vaa118b30c83f59fd@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0609071507u5fed3567q6345ed53dff377d@mail.gmail.com> On 9/7/06, Alex Maier wrote: > Fred, > > I think it is a great idea and you should definitely create and > distribute such live CDs. > > Cheers, > a There are Live spins from Fedora Unity http://torrent.fedoraunity.org/torrents Give it a try. Concerning mass release fo these livecds, I'm not personally for. There are still some bugs to fix specially for x86_64. Greg said some 64 bit machines will be bought for testing :) Chitlesh -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com From santosh at fedoraproject.org Fri Sep 8 00:20:05 2006 From: santosh at fedoraproject.org (Santosh Kumar) Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 05:50:05 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] LiveCD & Media Distribution Message-ID: Hi fellow ambassadors, LiveCD is a wonderful idea... a LiveCD is the only thing in Ubuntu that impressed me apart from their Media Distribution..... What do you guys think about a company sponsoring the complete Media Requests for fedora like Canonical does for Ubuntu?? wouldnt it be a good move?? It is not always quite effective when we just ship out around 150-200 Media a month when our competitors ship more than a 1000.... and i am sceptical about the effectiveness of the ambassadors distributing the Free Media in Fedora, as this manpower could be used in a better way..... and not everyone would like to shell out to distribute the FreeMedia DVD's, so this always falls on to a single person to take up the costs of the Media.... Dont you think we need to rethink our strategy?? Regards -- Santosh Kumar http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/SantoshKumar From santosh at fedoraproject.org Fri Sep 8 00:42:33 2006 From: santosh at fedoraproject.org (Santosh Kumar) Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 06:12:33 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fwd: LiveCD & Media Distribution In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi fellow ambassadors, LiveCD is a wonderful idea... a LiveCD is the only thing in Ubuntu that impressed me apart from their Media Distribution..... What do you guys think about a company sponsoring the complete Media Requests for fedora like Canonical does for Ubuntu?? wouldnt it be a good move?? It is not always quite effective when we just ship out around 150-200 Media a month when our competitors ship more than a 1000.... and i am sceptical about the effectiveness of the ambassadors distributing the Free Media in Fedora, as this manpower could be used in a better way..... and not everyone would like to shell out to distribute the FreeMedia DVD's, so this always falls on to a single person to take up the costs of the Media.... Dont you think we need to rethink our strategy?? Regards -- Santosh Kumar http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/SantoshKumar -- C.Santosh Kumar **************** CAUTION - Disclaimer ************ This e-mail contains PRIVILEGED AND CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION intended solely for the use of the addressee(s). If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender by e-mail and delete the original message. 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Messages sent to or from this e-mail address may be stored on the e-mail system permanently. *************** End of Disclaimer ************* From linuxdominatrix at gmail.com Fri Sep 8 11:05:51 2006 From: linuxdominatrix at gmail.com (Rohan Dighe) Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 16:35:51 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] LiveCD & Media Distribution In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8f6eaac0609080405rcc8f11bpc43dfe6551030a59@mail.gmail.com> Hello Ambassadors, Yeah, this idea of actually some company sponsoring the whole freemedia is quite interesting and yields more results. Also, my fellow friends order free media directly from the ubuntu website and their order arrives in about 4 weeks. So, its actually very good and centralized way to distribute all stuff ! Thank You -- Rohan Dighe Fedora Ambassador India. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/RohanDighe -- You do not really understand something unless you can explain it to your grandmother. -- Albert Einstein From linuxdominatrix at gmail.com Fri Sep 8 11:10:46 2006 From: linuxdominatrix at gmail.com (Rohan Dighe) Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 16:40:46 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Information returns In-Reply-To: <200609071344.25759.debo@casttechnologies.com> References: <3161376e0609070404v773a9784h7eba6c18e0f2b861@mail.gmail.com> <200609071344.25759.debo@casttechnologies.com> Message-ID: <8f6eaac0609080410v45a50dcqdb35e1f47e103f45@mail.gmail.com> On 9/7/06, DEBO OGUNRINDE wrote: > Hi People, > > I seem to support what Fredric has just said about the Ubuntu community. I > have noticed the way they appeal to users with their brand. I also agree that > its because of the LiveCD give-away. Through our marketing efforts, i have > noticed that users feel safer with live CDs as they do not have to worry > about the arduous tasks related to installation of linux. I feel a Fedora > Live CD can make the brand more usable as some people fear the installation > process not to wipe out their existing data with the use of a full install > DVD. This is not to say that the DVD is not useful. > > I wont mind Fredric if u can make a Live Fedora CD so that we can distribute > and use in marketing. > > Thanks > > > On Thursday 07 September 2006 10:04 am, Frederic Hornain wrote: > > Dear *, > > > > Already, for several month I have noticed an increase of ubuntu in private > > utilisation and also as a linux discovery tool in professional word. > > > > That is just a fact. > > I would only make remark you that ubuntu community is doing a great job. > > Congratulation to them. > > > > And I belveive that is mostly due to their LiveCD. > > It is easy to install, easy to give, easy to explain how to use it. > > > > So, all that to say that I am convinced that we need LiveCD. > > Fortunatly, we have got kadishi ! :). > > > > However, I was wondering if as Ambassador I can give Fedora Home made > > LiveCD with specific county configuration to people, organizations and > > companies ? > > > > Thanks in advance for you replies. > > > > Best Regards > > Fred > > ----------------------------------------------------- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > Olpc mailing list > > olpc-open at laptop.org > > -- > DEBO OGUNRINDE > CAST TECHNOLOGIES LIMITED > TEL:+234-1-4358770, +234-8035900237 > MAIL: debo at casttechnologies.com, debloxie at yahoo.com > WEB: http://www.casttechnologies.com > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > Hello ! The most appealing thing i guess about ubuntu apart from their distro is that their media packaging and delivery is quite appealing. So, maybe if you could have something like that then i guess it will definately appeal more. I remember i tried ubuntu the first time because of the 2 reasons it came to my house without hassle it had a great packaging which made me try it out !! So, Again live cd is no hassle to try out coz your data is almost untouched ! Well, that's what i wanted to say Thank You, -- Rohan Dighe Fedora Ambassador India. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/RohanDighe -- You do not really understand something unless you can explain it to your grandmother. -- Albert Einstein From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Fri Sep 8 11:27:57 2006 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul) Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2006 16:57:57 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: [Fedora-freemedia-list] Fwd: LiveCD & Media Distribution In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <450153BD.1000302@fedoraproject.org> Santosh Kumar wrote: > Hi fellow ambassadors, > LiveCD is a wonderful idea... a LiveCD is the only thing in Ubuntu > that impressed me apart from their Media Distribution..... > What do you guys think about a company sponsoring the complete Media > Requests for fedora like Canonical does for Ubuntu?? wouldnt it be a > good move?? Its very cost and time inefficient to do centralized distribution. Red Hat did try sending media disks to ambassadors for every event and that worked out to be a bad idea since we were spending all our limited budgets on transactions costs. For more details see http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Accounting. So now we reimburse after local production from ambassadors instead. Red Hat and FAMSco did send out some media to Thomas Chung a while back to Free media distribution though. There is also http://www.freelinuxdisk.org/ which will get a chunk of Free media of Fedora Core 6 shortly. It is not always quite effective when we just ship out > around 150-200 Media a month when our competitors ship more than a > 1000.... and i am sceptical about the effectiveness of the ambassadors > distributing the Free Media in Fedora, as this manpower could be used > in a better way..... and not everyone would like to shell out to > distribute the FreeMedia DVD's, so this always falls on to a single > person to take up the costs of the Media.... > Dont you think we need to rethink our strategy?? > It doesnt have to fall in a single person at all. Many regions have multiple people doing this though we would always welcome more contributors. Remember that Free media is just one form of distribution. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution. Unless you plan on getting more organizations to sponsor such efforts, the current method is the best way we can spend our funds in this. More official Live media releases would be nice. We will see what we can do about that in the next release. Meanwhile check out https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2006-August/msg00013.html Rahul From lxmaier at gmail.com Fri Sep 8 12:34:22 2006 From: lxmaier at gmail.com (Alex Maier) Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 08:34:22 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] Ambassadors Meeting 2006-09-07 Message-ID: <7f617d270609080534xdf48905j1c18455263be8d95@mail.gmail.com> Due to lack of attendance, the meeting was held informally with the two Ambassadors who attended. Events and initiatives of the attending Ambassadors were discussed. There will be no transcript/summary published. I would like to encourage the Ambassadors to attend the meetings periodically. Thank you, Alex Maier From karlie.robinson at fedoraproject.org Fri Sep 8 09:17:57 2006 From: karlie.robinson at fedoraproject.org (Karlie Robinson) Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2006 09:17:57 +0000 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: [Fedora-freemedia-list] Fwd: LiveCD & Media Distribution In-Reply-To: <450153BD.1000302@fedoraproject.org> References: <450153BD.1000302@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <45013545.8040701@fedoraproject.org> Rahul wrote: > Santosh Kumar wrote: >> around 150-200 Media a month when our competitors ship more than a >> 1000.... and i am sceptical about the effectiveness of the ambassadors >> distributing the Free Media in Fedora, as this manpower could be used >> in a better way..... and not everyone would like to shell out to >> distribute the FreeMedia DVD's, so this always falls on to a single >> person to take up the costs of the Media.... >> Dont you think we need to rethink our strategy?? >> > > It doesnt have to fall in a single person at all. Many regions have > multiple people doing this though we would always welcome more > contributors. > > Remember that Free media is just one form of distribution. > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution. Unless you plan on getting > more organizations to sponsor such efforts, the current method is the > best way we can spend our funds in this. > Rahul First thing we should all remember about business, is that any company shelling out gobs of money will want something in return. You'll need to ask what that is and is it at a price the project can afford? The individuals who fill FreeMedia requests are also getting something in return, but what they get back is personal. Like the warm fuzzies one-on-one gifting brings. Besides isn't there a major company already underwriting most of what Fedora does... Name is about to spill out... Red... Car? House? Oh yeah! Red Hat! The work that the Ambassadors do is more than a faceless mail room pumping out discs. Face time with users at events, talks and FUDCon's is priceless. It gives fedora a face and a name. A mailroom pumping out discs can't do that. (also makes me think about the hundreds of AOL discs I've thrown out over the years) Paying forward is a slow process, but the return is greater. From francesco.ugolini at fedoraproject.org Fri Sep 8 14:24:22 2006 From: francesco.ugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2006 16:24:22 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Aim adress Message-ID: <45017D16.2050905@fedoraproject.org> First of all sorry for my absence at the meeting but, damn, i've forgot this. But the topic of my mail is a proposal. In fact i think that is easier to talk with an ambassador if he (or she) has an instant messaging adress to use only for fedora realtive question. What do you think ? Francesco Ugolini P.S. My aim adress is Wmirror. From tchung at fedoraproject.org Fri Sep 8 17:20:59 2006 From: tchung at fedoraproject.org (Thomas Chung) Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 10:20:59 -0700 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: [Fedora-freemedia-list] Fwd: LiveCD & Media Distribution In-Reply-To: <45013545.8040701@fedoraproject.org> References: <450153BD.1000302@fedoraproject.org> <45013545.8040701@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <369bce3b0609081020g6dea9966ra2898ff77e7be0a3@mail.gmail.com> On 9/8/06, Karlie Robinson wrote: > Paying forward is a slow process, but the return is greater. +1 That sums it up about our Fedora Free Media Program. :) Remember giving is better than receiving! Join me giving "Gift of Fedora"[1] [1] http://www.redhat.com/fedora/ Regards, -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung From tchung at fedoraproject.org Fri Sep 8 18:28:58 2006 From: tchung at fedoraproject.org (Thomas Chung) Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 11:28:58 -0700 Subject: [Ambassadors] BBC World Documentary - The Codebreakers Message-ID: <369bce3b0609081128odb8d98araf43bc3c7490f768@mail.gmail.com> Back in May 2006, I mentioned BBC World Documentary on FOSS and Development. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-ambassadors-list/2006-May/msg00032.html Today, I just found out the these videos are available from Google Video Part 1 - http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=578348807380292081 Part 2 - http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7894714482218207293 Cheers! -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung From karlie.robinson at fedoraproject.org Fri Sep 8 14:34:06 2006 From: karlie.robinson at fedoraproject.org (Karlie Robinson) Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2006 14:34:06 +0000 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: [Fedora-freemedia-list] Fwd: LiveCD & Media Distribution In-Reply-To: <1157736604.6096.34.camel@redhat> References: <450153BD.1000302@fedoraproject.org> <45013545.8040701@fedoraproject.org> <369bce3b0609081020g6dea9966ra2898ff77e7be0a3@mail.gmail.com> <1157736604.6096.34.camel@redhat> Message-ID: <45017F5E.8060209@fedoraproject.org> Pawel Sadowski wrote: > On 08-09-2006, fri at 10:20 -0700, Thomas Chung wrote: > >>On 9/8/06, Karlie Robinson wrote: >> >>>Paying forward is a slow process, but the return is greater. >> >>+1 >> >>That sums it up about our Fedora Free Media Program. :) >>Remember giving is better than receiving! >> >>Join me giving "Gift of Fedora"[1] >>[1] http://www.redhat.com/fedora/ > > > Hmm, after rethinking, the Fedora Free Media can be a really better > solution -- we can give a gift to someone and receive much more than if > it would be fulfilled by some other company. Satisfaction, greetings and > new aqcuaintance -- this is something that would be impossible in case > of different fulfill ways. > > +1 :) > > Regards, > Pawel Free and Sponsored Media works - infact it's working better all the time. We're able to fill more and more requests every month. We're bringing on on more Vendors willing to offer their services to help keep fulfilment up. If that's not successful, I'm not sure what is. The great thing about Open Source is the way people share ideas across multiple communities. But with all the distros I work with the only thing that I ever hear about Ubuntu is that they've got lots of users and that they are well funded. I never hear about ground breaking packages that will vault OSS, as a whole, forward. That sort of stuff is coming out of Fedora. So let's not worry about keeping up with the neighbors and focus on what we're doing well. From lxmaier at gmail.com Fri Sep 8 20:09:04 2006 From: lxmaier at gmail.com (Alex Maier) Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 16:09:04 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: [Fedora-freemedia-list] Fwd: LiveCD & Media Distribution In-Reply-To: <45017F5E.8060209@fedoraproject.org> References: <450153BD.1000302@fedoraproject.org> <45013545.8040701@fedoraproject.org> <369bce3b0609081020g6dea9966ra2898ff77e7be0a3@mail.gmail.com> <1157736604.6096.34.camel@redhat> <45017F5E.8060209@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <7f617d270609081309y5242c191ia8a89a74d7d63923@mail.gmail.com> On 9/8/06, Karlie Robinson wrote: > So let's not worry about keeping up with the neighbors and focus on what > we're doing well. +1, many times over! For two reasons, actually. Reason 1. We are doing quite well considering that six months ago there was exactly zero possibility for us to distribute Fedora installation media for free. Since then we have expanded this project, wich started with Thomas burning a few dozen DVDs and mailing them out to a few people in America, to include India, Poland, and Brazil. I am sure there will be more countries on this list soon. What we have achieved, is a 100% grassroots effort, proving that we have a dedicated and active community willing to help out as much as they can to spread Fedora. We are doing the right thing, and doing it well. This is something to be proud of. Reason 2. This is a more esotheric argument, and not everyone will agree, but in my opinion, we as an Open Source distribution should concentrate more on competing with the proprietary software out there instead of battling other OSS distros. We can learn from Ubuntu, and we should. Some of their practices can be applied in our context, and some can't. But the main thought remains the same--we (as in FLOSS folks who like different distros) should not waste time and energy fighting among ourselves while there is so much more constructive work to do. One more Thank You to all involved in spreading Fedora and Open Source--and keep up the good work! Cheers, a -- Alex Maier http://amaier.net From charles.vinchon at fedoraproject.org Fri Sep 8 15:20:09 2006 From: charles.vinchon at fedoraproject.org (Charles VINCHON) Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2006 17:20:09 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Aim adress In-Reply-To: <45017D16.2050905@fedoraproject.org> References: <45017D16.2050905@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <1157728809.6663.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> Le vendredi 08 septembre 2006 ? 16:24 +0200, Francesco Ugolini a ?crit : > But the topic of my mail is a proposal. In fact i think that is easier > to talk with an ambassador if he (or she) has an instant messaging > adress to use only for fedora realtive question. > > What do you think ? Instead of using AIM, why not using XMPP /Jabber which is free? Charles -- Charles Vinchon French Fedora Ambassador Lille, France (GMT+2 - CEST) http://fedoraproject.org/Wiki/CharlesVinchon mailto:charles.vinchon at fedoraproject.org -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Ceci est une partie de message num?riquement sign?e URL: From francesco.ugolini at fedoraproject.org Sat Sep 9 08:20:48 2006 From: francesco.ugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2006 10:20:48 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Aim adress In-Reply-To: <1157728809.6663.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <45017D16.2050905@fedoraproject.org> <1157728809.6663.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <8d41e9670609090120m18fc0303o5073098e62519d9b@mail.gmail.com> Yes, is an excellent idea. On 9/8/06, Charles VINCHON wrote: > Le vendredi 08 septembre 2006 ? 16:24 +0200, Francesco Ugolini a ?crit : > > But the topic of my mail is a proposal. In fact i think that is easier > > to talk with an ambassador if he (or she) has an instant messaging > > adress to use only for fedora realtive question. > > > > What do you think ? > > Instead of using AIM, why not using XMPP /Jabber which is free? > > Charles > > -- > Charles Vinchon > French Fedora Ambassador > Lille, France (GMT+2 - CEST) > > http://fedoraproject.org/Wiki/CharlesVinchon > mailto:charles.vinchon at fedoraproject.org > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > From charles.vinchon at fedoraproject.org Sat Sep 9 12:39:41 2006 From: charles.vinchon at fedoraproject.org (Charles VINCHON) Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2006 14:39:41 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Aim adress In-Reply-To: <8d41e9670609090120m18fc0303o5073098e62519d9b@mail.gmail.com> References: <45017D16.2050905@fedoraproject.org> <1157728809.6663.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> <8d41e9670609090120m18fc0303o5073098e62519d9b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1157805581.4270.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> Le samedi 09 septembre 2006 ? 10:20 +0200, Francesco Ugolini a ?crit : > Yes, is an excellent idea. My jabber adress is charles at vinchon.fr Why not making a list of jabber adress in the Fedora Project Wiki ? Regards Charles -- Charles Vinchon French Fedora Ambassador Lille, France (GMT+2 - CEST) http://fedoraproject.org/Wiki/CharlesVinchon mailto:charles.vinchon at fedoraproject.org -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Rahul From thomas.canniot at laposte.net Sat Sep 9 15:43:01 2006 From: thomas.canniot at laposte.net (Thomas Canniot) Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2006 17:43:01 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Information returns In-Reply-To: <13dbfe4f0609071507u5fed3567q6345ed53dff377d@mail.gmail.com> References: <3161376e0609070404v773a9784h7eba6c18e0f2b861@mail.gmail.com> <7f617d270609071313p6f42bb50vaa118b30c83f59fd@mail.gmail.com> <13dbfe4f0609071507u5fed3567q6345ed53dff377d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1157816582.2463.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> Le vendredi 08 septembre 2006 ? 00:07 +0200, Chitlesh GOORAH a ?crit : > On 9/7/06, Alex Maier wrote: > > Fred, > > > > I think it is a great idea and you should definitely create and > > distribute such live CDs. > > > > Cheers, > > a > > There are Live spins from Fedora Unity http://torrent.fedoraunity.org/torrents > > Give it a try. > Concerning mass release fo these livecds, I'm not personally for. > There are still some bugs to fix specially for x86_64. Greg said some > 64 bit machines will be bought for testing :) > > > Chitlesh I don't think it is a good idea either. Giving under development Live CD could spot our image with unpolished softwares. -- Thomas Canniot http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasCanniot From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Sat Sep 9 15:53:38 2006 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul) Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2006 21:23:38 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Information returns In-Reply-To: <1157816582.2463.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <3161376e0609070404v773a9784h7eba6c18e0f2b861@mail.gmail.com> <7f617d270609071313p6f42bb50vaa118b30c83f59fd@mail.gmail.com> <13dbfe4f0609071507u5fed3567q6345ed53dff377d@mail.gmail.com> <1157816582.2463.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <4502E382.7060009@fedoraproject.org> Thomas Canniot wrote: >> There are Live spins from Fedora Unity http://torrent.fedoraunity.org/torrents >> >> Give it a try. >> Concerning mass release fo these livecds, I'm not personally for. >> There are still some bugs to fix specially for x86_64. Greg said some >> 64 bit machines will be bought for testing :) >> >> >> Chitlesh > > I don't think it is a good idea either. Giving under development Live CD > could spot our image with unpolished softwares. That depends on how you set expectations. You can tell them. "Here. Grab the very latest stuff. It might be a little rough but thats a great opportunity to help Fedora improve its upcoming next release. Rahul From claus_reheis at bluebottle.com Sun Sep 10 09:54:25 2006 From: claus_reheis at bluebottle.com (Claus Reheis) Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2006 11:54:25 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Claus Reheis Message-ID: <1157882065.26967.42.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hi all! At first I want to say I am sorry for introducing myself so late at this list. But English is not my native language and sometimes I feel a little bit shy to use it. But as far as I can say you are all very nice people and till now I feel well here!(special thanks to GeroldKa, ChitleshGorah, Thomas Chung and Max Spevack) My name is Claus Reheis, I am 26 years old and at the moment I live in western part of Austria / European Union close to the boundary to Switzerland. I use Linux since 2003 and I would say I am a advanced beginner in this material, and I am very motivated to learn as much as I can and i enjoy every little progress on my way to understand this System... My profession is "medical masseur, Wellness-Trainer and Therapist" and I am responsible for a Wellness-Department in a nice Hotel in the Alps. I am good in communication and its easy for me to make first contact with people... (The Linux Day Tirol went very well) My plan is to change my profession to the IT sector and I already study every day in my spare time to get ready for my Red Hat certifications! Thanks to my boss, who support me in any way in that matter, I hope I can do it in a period of 4 years... The truth is I feel a little bit at the wrong place in a association with so many geeks like you, but I will give my best to contribute to the Fedora-Community according to my possibilities and I am sure one day I can also contribute in technical ways. So if you think there is something I can do, just let me know! I am looking forward for my tasks... :) Greetings from Austria, Claus Reheis -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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But as far as I can say you are all very nice > people and till now I feel well here!(special thanks to GeroldKa, > ChitleshGorah, Thomas Chung and Max Spevack) > > My name is Claus Reheis, I am 26 years old and at the moment I live in > western part of Austria / European Union close to the boundary to > Switzerland. > I use Linux since 2003 and I would say I am a advanced beginner in this > material, and I am very motivated to learn as much as I can and i enjoy > every little progress on my way to understand this System... > > My profession is "medical masseur, Wellness-Trainer and Therapist" and I > am responsible for a Wellness-Department in a nice Hotel in the Alps. > > I am good in communication and its easy for me to make first contact > with people... (The Linux Day Tirol went very well) > > My plan is to change my profession to the IT sector and I already study > every day in my spare time to get ready for my Red Hat certifications! > Thanks to my boss, who support me in any way in that matter, I hope I > can do it in a period of 4 years... > > The truth is I feel a little bit at the wrong place in a association > with so many geeks like you, but I will give my best to contribute to > the Fedora-Community according to my possibilities and I am sure one day > I can also contribute in technical ways. > > So if you think there is something I can do, just let me know! > I am looking forward for my tasks... :) > > Greetings from Austria, > > > Claus Reheis > > > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > -- Alex Maier http://amaier.net From claus_reheis at bluebottle.com Sun Sep 10 18:21:01 2006 From: claus_reheis at bluebottle.com (Claus Reheis) Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2006 20:21:01 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Claus Reheis In-Reply-To: <7f617d270609100936t197a50c3s3381c109187a85ae@mail.gmail.com> References: <1157882065.26967.42.camel@localhost.localdomain> <7f617d270609100936t197a50c3s3381c109187a85ae@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1157912461.26967.45.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Sun, 2006-09-10 at 12:36 -0400, Alex Maier wrote: > Claus, > > Thanks for this self-introduction! I hope you will soon feel > completely comfortable in this group -- regardless of your technical > skill! I will :-) > > Folks, please join me in welcoming Claus! > a Thanks Alex Claus > > On 9/10/06, Claus Reheis wrote: > > Hi all! > > > > At first I want to say I am sorry for introducing myself so late at this > > list. But English is not my native language and sometimes I feel a > > little bit shy to use it. But as far as I can say you are all very nice > > people and till now I feel well here!(special thanks to GeroldKa, > > ChitleshGorah, Thomas Chung and Max Spevack) > > > > My name is Claus Reheis, I am 26 years old and at the moment I live in > > western part of Austria / European Union close to the boundary to > > Switzerland. > > I use Linux since 2003 and I would say I am a advanced beginner in this > > material, and I am very motivated to learn as much as I can and i enjoy > > every little progress on my way to understand this System... > > > > My profession is "medical masseur, Wellness-Trainer and Therapist" and I > > am responsible for a Wellness-Department in a nice Hotel in the Alps. > > > > I am good in communication and its easy for me to make first contact > > with people... (The Linux Day Tirol went very well) > > > > My plan is to change my profession to the IT sector and I already study > > every day in my spare time to get ready for my Red Hat certifications! > > Thanks to my boss, who support me in any way in that matter, I hope I > > can do it in a period of 4 years... > > > > The truth is I feel a little bit at the wrong place in a association > > with so many geeks like you, but I will give my best to contribute to > > the Fedora-Community according to my possibilities and I am sure one day > > I can also contribute in technical ways. > > > > So if you think there is something I can do, just let me know! > > I am looking forward for my tasks... :) > > > > Greetings from Austria, > > > > > > Claus Reheis > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Thank you again, Karlie Robinson From lxmaier at gmail.com Mon Sep 11 14:56:54 2006 From: lxmaier at gmail.com (Alex Maier) Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 10:56:54 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Ambassadors Recognition Awards, round 2 In-Reply-To: <4505408E.7000006@fedoraproject.org> References: <7f617d270608310906p4bee5c2ekcab0bc095c0aa56d@mail.gmail.com> <4505408E.7000006@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <7f617d270609110756j23fed332hefef9b007df1e8ab@mail.gmail.com> Karlie, all, The little gifts we have sent out do not measure up to the valuable contribution all of you (whether you won the award or not) are making to Fedora and Open Source. Keep up the great work and thank you all one more time! Cheers, a On 9/11/06, Karlie Robinson wrote: > Dear Fedora Ambassadors, > > My award gift arrived today and I wanted to take a few minutes and send > a proper thank you for your generosity. > > It has been my continued pleasure to work with the Fedora Community and > I hope to contribute many more volunteer hours with you all. > > Thank you again, > Karlie Robinson > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- Alex Maier http://amaier.net From tejasdinkar at gmail.com Mon Sep 11 15:03:24 2006 From: tejasdinkar at gmail.com (Tejas Dinkar) Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 20:33:24 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Ambassadors Recognition Awards, round 2 In-Reply-To: <4505408E.7000006@fedoraproject.org> References: <7f617d270608310906p4bee5c2ekcab0bc095c0aa56d@mail.gmail.com> <4505408E.7000006@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <1157987004.2944.0.camel@dragon.gja.in> On Mon, 2006-09-11 at 10:55 +0000, Karlie Robinson wrote: > Dear Fedora Ambassadors, > > My award gift arrived today and I wanted to take a few minutes and send > a proper thank you for your generosity. Sorry, you aren't getting off that easily And the chants started coming from the masses: "We Want Pictures!!!" Gja From santosh at fedoraproject.org Mon Sep 11 15:15:10 2006 From: santosh at fedoraproject.org (Santosh Kumar) Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 20:45:10 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Ambassadors Recognition Awards, round 2 In-Reply-To: <1157987004.2944.0.camel@dragon.gja.in> References: <7f617d270608310906p4bee5c2ekcab0bc095c0aa56d@mail.gmail.com> <4505408E.7000006@fedoraproject.org> <1157987004.2944.0.camel@dragon.gja.in> Message-ID: very true.... post the pictures....... -- SK -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I'm in Rochester, NY and stuff coming from North Carolina usually reaches me in the first wave. ~K From tchung at fedoraproject.org Mon Sep 11 17:09:21 2006 From: tchung at fedoraproject.org (Thomas Chung) Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 10:09:21 -0700 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Ambassadors Recognition Awards, round 2 In-Reply-To: <450546F8.1020606@fedoraproject.org> References: <7f617d270608310906p4bee5c2ekcab0bc095c0aa56d@mail.gmail.com> <4505408E.7000006@fedoraproject.org> <1157987004.2944.0.camel@dragon.gja.in> <450546F8.1020606@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <369bce3b0609111009m4e34ca44t845df532153940d0@mail.gmail.com> On 9/11/06, Karlie Robinson wrote: > I don't want to spoil it for those who may get shipments after me. I'm > in Rochester, NY and stuff coming from North Carolina usually reaches me > in the first wave. > > ~K +1 Cheers! -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung From tchung at fedoraproject.org Tue Sep 12 01:07:04 2006 From: tchung at fedoraproject.org (Thomas Chung) Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 18:07:04 -0700 Subject: [Ambassadors] FAMSCO Meeting Minutes 2006-09-11 Message-ID: <369bce3b0609111807h48301913q1b631b4aeb4ea9e3@mail.gmail.com> FAMSCO Meeting Minutes 2006-09-11 has been posted. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/SteeringCommittee/Meetings/2006-09-11 Next FAMSCO Meeting will be held on 2006-09-18 23:00 UTC http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/SteeringCommittee/Meetings Regards, -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung From lxmaier at gmail.com Tue Sep 12 01:43:20 2006 From: lxmaier at gmail.com (Alex Maier) Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 21:43:20 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] FAMSCO Re-Election Message-ID: <7f617d270609111843l445c98acuf6c4a9769aa0ee59@mail.gmail.com> Dear Ambassadors! As you could have read in the Meeting Minutes of the latest FAmSCo meeting, FAmSCo has decided to hold a round of elections, to ensure we keep the community engaged and get some new blood into the Committee. Please visit the FAmSCo page, from where the Election Rules as well as the Nominations page are linked. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/SteeringCommittee Anyone who is a member of the Ambassadors group in the Fedora Accounts System is eligible for nomination. All candidates MUST self-nominate, by adding their name, IRD nick, as well as a short candidate profile to the Nominations page: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/SteeringCommittee/Election/2006Nominations Why self-nominate? Because we only want people who understand and are willing to accept the commitment to serve on the Steering Committee. This can mean spending a lot of time and work, but it also means that you will have an opportunity to shape the future of this project. What if you know JUST the right candidate and you wish they ran for a seat on FAmSCo? Well, you can write them a personal email and suggest they add their name to the ballot, or you can suggest their candidacy on the list. The nomination period will be open for fifteen days, closing at 23:59:59 UTC on September 26th. After this, there will be a two-day break, during which we will make sure all candidates are indeed willing and eligible to be on the ballot. Then the election period opens on Friday, September 29, 2006, 00:00:01 UTCand continues for one week, closing on Thursday, October 05, 2006, 23:59:59 UTC. During this time you will be able to submit your votes by the Fedora Voting System. I will explain the details of voting process in a separate email in a few days. Current FAmSCo will continue business as usual until the election of the new FAmSCo. So here, the floor is open for the candidates! From mspevack at redhat.com Tue Sep 12 15:12:09 2006 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 11:12:09 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: FAMSCO Re-Election In-Reply-To: <7f617d270609111843l445c98acuf6c4a9769aa0ee59@mail.gmail.com> References: <7f617d270609111843l445c98acuf6c4a9769aa0ee59@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 11 Sep 2006, Alex Maier wrote: > As you could have read in the Meeting Minutes of the latest FAmSCo > meeting, FAmSCo has decided to hold a round of elections, to ensure we > keep the community engaged and get some new blood into the Committee. I encourage any Ambassadors who have some organizational skills, passion for Open Source, and a little bit of time on their hands to consider applying. Being on FAMSCO is an opportunity to be a major leader within the Fedora Community, work closely with some of the folks on the Fedora Board, and create something great that will always have your name associated with it. If you've ever thought "Ambassadors would be great if only $X" then you should think about running. --Max -- Max Spevack + http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MaxSpevack + gpg key -- http://spevack.org/max.asc + fingerprint -- CD52 5E72 369B B00D 9E9A 773E 2FDB CB46 5A17 CF21 From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Tue Sep 12 18:44:06 2006 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul) Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 00:14:06 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: [Famsco-list] FAMSCO Meeting Minutes 2006-09-11 In-Reply-To: <369bce3b0609111807h48301913q1b631b4aeb4ea9e3@mail.gmail.com> References: <369bce3b0609111807h48301913q1b631b4aeb4ea9e3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4506FFF6.4090308@fedoraproject.org> Thomas Chung wrote: > FAMSCO Meeting Minutes 2006-09-11 has been posted. > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/SteeringCommittee/Meetings/2006-09-11 > > > Next FAMSCO Meeting will be held on 2006-09-18 23:00 UTC > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/SteeringCommittee/Meetings > > Regards, Is there any reasons press mails cant be send to marketing list instead of FAMSCo list? I believe I wouldnt nominate myself for the FAMSCo election this time around. Not enough time in a day to do everything I wanted to do and there is a lot of other potential candidates who could play a better role than me here. Rahul From francesco.ugolini at fedoraproject.org Wed Sep 13 10:59:12 2006 From: francesco.ugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 12:59:12 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: FAMSCO Re-Election In-Reply-To: References: <7f617d270609111843l445c98acuf6c4a9769aa0ee59@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8d41e9670609130359p613c24fcy7cf9e689178080ef@mail.gmail.com> I think that the actually FAmSCo people are perfect for this role. On 9/12/06, Max Spevack wrote: > On Mon, 11 Sep 2006, Alex Maier wrote: > > > As you could have read in the Meeting Minutes of the latest FAmSCo > > meeting, FAmSCo has decided to hold a round of elections, to ensure we > > keep the community engaged and get some new blood into the Committee. > > I encourage any Ambassadors who have some organizational skills, passion > for Open Source, and a little bit of time on their hands to consider > applying. > > Being on FAMSCO is an opportunity to be a major leader within the Fedora > Community, work closely with some of the folks on the Fedora Board, and > create something great that will always have your name associated with it. > > If you've ever thought "Ambassadors would be great if only $X" then you > should think about running. > > --Max > > -- > Max Spevack > + http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MaxSpevack > + gpg key -- http://spevack.org/max.asc > + fingerprint -- CD52 5E72 369B B00D 9E9A 773E 2FDB CB46 5A17 CF21 > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > From roffe.moshe at gmail.com Wed Sep 13 13:26:46 2006 From: roffe.moshe at gmail.com (Moshe Roffe) Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 15:26:46 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Legal Questions Message-ID: <9895be990609130626y67b9df49m3ddaf173989912e2@mail.gmail.com> Hello to ALL, i was wondering, is there any LEGAL obligation using Fedora Core for business (not private) solutions? i.e, if for example i will take FC4 or 5, and build upon it some kind of service (mail-relay, anti virus, etc..) can i sell my result (as support for this box of course), to other clients? by this i am using fedora commercially and not for private use. i couldn't find anything on that, i want to clear this out, before recommending using Fedora Core as a base OS. also. Fedora core is suitable for many tasks and many solutions. i am interested in the LEGAL issue. thanks for any info, Moshe. -- Moshe Roffe, System&Network Administrator RHCE - 803005755016943 Fedora Ambassador, ISRAEL, Western Asia MATRIX-IT -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lxmaier at gmail.com Wed Sep 13 13:30:12 2006 From: lxmaier at gmail.com (Alex Maier) Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 09:30:12 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] Legal Questions In-Reply-To: <9895be990609130626y67b9df49m3ddaf173989912e2@mail.gmail.com> References: <9895be990609130626y67b9df49m3ddaf173989912e2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <7f617d270609130630t1cd9a1aag933d8762b126d8c1@mail.gmail.com> Dear Moshe! As it says on the front page of fedoraproject.org, "Fedora Core is an operating system and platform, based on Linux, that is always free for anyone to use, modify and distribute, now and forever." This includes any commercial use you can imagine, as long as it's legal in your country, or wherever you happen to do business. Now isn't THAT great? :) Thanks, a On 9/13/06, Moshe Roffe wrote: > Hello to ALL, > > i was wondering, is there any LEGAL obligation using Fedora Core for > business (not private) solutions? > > i.e, if for example i will take FC4 or 5, and build upon it some kind of > service (mail-relay, anti virus, etc..) > can i sell my result (as support for this box of course), to other clients? > by this i am using fedora commercially > and not for private use. > > i couldn't find anything on that, i want to clear this out, before > recommending using Fedora Core as a base OS. > also. > > Fedora core is suitable for many tasks and many solutions. i am interested > in the LEGAL issue. > > thanks for any info, > > Moshe. > > -- > Moshe Roffe, > System&Network Administrator > RHCE - 803005755016943 > Fedora Ambassador, ISRAEL, Western Asia > MATRIX-IT > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > -- Alex Maier http://amaier.net From rwhetsel at ravensong.com Wed Sep 13 13:35:59 2006 From: rwhetsel at ravensong.com (Robert Whetsel) Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 08:35:59 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Legal Questions In-Reply-To: <7f617d270609130630t1cd9a1aag933d8762b126d8c1@mail.gmail.com> References: <9895be990609130626y67b9df49m3ddaf173989912e2@mail.gmail.com> <7f617d270609130630t1cd9a1aag933d8762b126d8c1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1158154559.4508093f24b99@mail.ravensong.com> Moshe, To add to this; we have been doing just that for over six years. Contact me off-line if you want me go over some pit falls and issues we ran into early on so you don't make the same mistakes we did. -- Cheers, Robert C. Whetsel 240-215-3944 www.ravensong.com RavenSong Open Technologies, Inc. Frederick Innovative Technology Center, Inc. (FITCI) 401 Rosemont Avenue Rosenstock Hall, 3rd Floor at Hood College Frederick, MD 21701 ********************************************************************************* This message, and any attachments to it, may contain information that is privileged, confidential, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are notified that any use, dissemination, distribution, copying, or communication of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete the message and any attachments. Thank you. ********************************************************************************* Quoting Alex Maier : > Dear Moshe! > > As it says on the front page of fedoraproject.org, "Fedora Core is an > operating system and platform, based on Linux, that is always free for > anyone to use, modify and distribute, now and forever." > > This includes any commercial use you can imagine, as long as it's > legal in your country, or wherever you happen to do business. > > Now isn't THAT great? :) > > Thanks, > a > > > On 9/13/06, Moshe Roffe wrote: > > Hello to ALL, > > > > i was wondering, is there any LEGAL obligation using Fedora Core for > > business (not private) solutions? > > > > i.e, if for example i will take FC4 or 5, and build upon it some kind of > > service (mail-relay, anti virus, etc..) > > can i sell my result (as support for this box of course), to other > clients? > > by this i am using fedora commercially > > and not for private use. > > > > i couldn't find anything on that, i want to clear this out, before > > recommending using Fedora Core as a base OS. > > also. > > > > Fedora core is suitable for many tasks and many solutions. i am interested > > in the LEGAL issue. > > > > thanks for any info, > > > > Moshe. > > > > -- > > Moshe Roffe, > > System&Network Administrator > > RHCE - 803005755016943 > > Fedora Ambassador, ISRAEL, Western Asia > > MATRIX-IT > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > > > > > -- > Alex Maier > http://amaier.net > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > From mspevack at redhat.com Wed Sep 13 19:36:37 2006 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 15:36:37 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Ambassadors] Legal Questions In-Reply-To: <7f617d270609130630t1cd9a1aag933d8762b126d8c1@mail.gmail.com> References: <9895be990609130626y67b9df49m3ddaf173989912e2@mail.gmail.com> <7f617d270609130630t1cd9a1aag933d8762b126d8c1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 13 Sep 2006, Alex Maier wrote: > Dear Moshe! > > As it says on the front page of fedoraproject.org, "Fedora Core is an > operating system and platform, based on Linux, that is always free for > anyone to use, modify and distribute, now and forever." As long as you don't change it. That doesn't mean you *can't* change it. Change it all you like. But if you do change it, you just can't call it Fedora anymore, because it's now something else! That's the legal requirement bit. --Max -- Max Spevack + http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MaxSpevack + gpg key -- http://spevack.org/max.asc + fingerprint -- CD52 5E72 369B B00D 9E9A 773E 2FDB CB46 5A17 CF21 From thomas.canniot at laposte.net Wed Sep 13 22:43:26 2006 From: thomas.canniot at laposte.net (Thomas Canniot) Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 00:43:26 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: FAMSCO Re-Election In-Reply-To: <8d41e9670609130359p613c24fcy7cf9e689178080ef@mail.gmail.com> References: <7f617d270609111843l445c98acuf6c4a9769aa0ee59@mail.gmail.com> <8d41e9670609130359p613c24fcy7cf9e689178080ef@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1158187406.2455.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> Le mercredi 13 septembre 2006 ? 12:59 +0200, Francesco Ugolini a ?crit : > I think that the actually FAmSCo people are perfect for this role. ... and should all run for re-election :) -- Thomas Canniot http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasCanniot From lxmaier at gmail.com Wed Sep 13 23:02:40 2006 From: lxmaier at gmail.com (Alex Maier) Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 19:02:40 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: FAMSCO Re-Election In-Reply-To: <1158187406.2455.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <7f617d270609111843l445c98acuf6c4a9769aa0ee59@mail.gmail.com> <8d41e9670609130359p613c24fcy7cf9e689178080ef@mail.gmail.com> <1158187406.2455.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <7f617d270609131602g58ddb14byb67f845937f1076@mail.gmail.com> On 9/13/06, Thomas Canniot wrote: > Le mercredi 13 septembre 2006 ? 12:59 +0200, Francesco Ugolini a ?crit : > > I think that the actually FAmSCo people are perfect for this role. > > ... and should all run for re-election :) Well, well, dear Ambassadors, you won't get off the hook that easily :) I can understand how some of the current members feel they might need a break--and it is indeed SOME task, to try and run this group--but it is a very gratifying one. So once again, I would like to encourage new leaders to step up to this challenge! http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/SteeringCommittee/Election/2006Nominations a From lxmaier at gmail.com Wed Sep 13 23:20:05 2006 From: lxmaier at gmail.com (Alex Maier) Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 19:20:05 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] Meeting reminder: Thu, Sep 14, 14:00 UTC Message-ID: <7f617d270609131620nc12609ek2d08aea35df22d03@mail.gmail.com> Be there! http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?year=2006&month=09&day=14&hour=14&min=0&sec=0 -- Alex Maier http://amaier.net From thomas.canniot at laposte.net Thu Sep 14 06:42:00 2006 From: thomas.canniot at laposte.net (Thomas Canniot) Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 08:42:00 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Meeting reminder: Thu, Sep 14, 14:00 UTC In-Reply-To: <7f617d270609131620nc12609ek2d08aea35df22d03@mail.gmail.com> References: <7f617d270609131620nc12609ek2d08aea35df22d03@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1158216120.2769.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> Le mercredi 13 septembre 2006 ? 19:20 -0400, Alex Maier a ?crit : > Be there! > > http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?year=2006&month=09&day=14&hour=14&min=0&sec=0 > i'll do my best ! -- Thomas Canniot http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasCanniot From tchung at fedoraproject.org Thu Sep 14 07:13:58 2006 From: tchung at fedoraproject.org (Thomas Chung) Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 00:13:58 -0700 Subject: [Ambassadors] Help needed from Fedora Free Media Program Message-ID: <369bce3b0609140013v3ba5ca99o22cd8f9ef614d07c@mail.gmail.com> All, It's been almost a week since we received over 200 Free Media [1] requests. However we still have 60 requests we haven't fulfilled. Please help us to reach our goal for this month by accepting at least one or two requests from the waiting list or ordering one or two media from Sponsored Vendors [2] who will accept the request on behalf of you. [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution/FreeMedia/FC5DVD/September [2] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution/SponsoredMedia Feel free to contact me if you have any question and thank you for support. Best Regards, -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung From mspevack at redhat.com Thu Sep 14 07:38:16 2006 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 03:38:16 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Ambassadors] Meeting reminder: Thu, Sep 14, 14:00 UTC In-Reply-To: <7f617d270609131620nc12609ek2d08aea35df22d03@mail.gmail.com> References: <7f617d270609131620nc12609ek2d08aea35df22d03@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 13 Sep 2006, Alex Maier wrote: > Be there! > > http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?year=2006&month=09&day=14&hour=14&min=0&sec=0 I will not be there, as I have a prior commitment during that time. I hope others will -- especially any of the folks who are interested in being a part of FAMSCO -- a meeting like this is a great time to talk about ideas, etc. Thanks, Max -- Max Spevack + http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MaxSpevack + gpg key -- http://spevack.org/max.asc + fingerprint -- CD52 5E72 369B B00D 9E9A 773E 2FDB CB46 5A17 CF21 From claus_reheis at bluebottle.com Thu Sep 14 10:55:57 2006 From: claus_reheis at bluebottle.com (Claus Reheis) Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 12:55:57 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Meeting Message-ID: <1158231357.4175.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hi all! Sorry, but i can not attend the meetings at 14:00 cause I have to work :( Greetings, Claus -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I'm just being slow (at your request) so other vendors could get a few and have been extra busy this week. ~K Thomas Chung wrote: > All, > It's been almost a week since we received over 200 Free Media [1] requests. > However we still have 60 requests we haven't fulfilled. > Please help us to reach our goal for this month by accepting at least > one or two requests from the waiting list or ordering one or two media > from Sponsored Vendors [2] who will accept the request on behalf of > you. > > [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution/FreeMedia/FC5DVD/September > [2] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution/SponsoredMedia > > Feel free to contact me if you have any question and thank you for support. > Best Regards, From karlie.robinson at fedoraproject.org Thu Sep 14 08:46:15 2006 From: karlie.robinson at fedoraproject.org (Karlie Robinson) Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 08:46:15 +0000 Subject: [Ambassadors] Meeting reminder: Thu, Sep 14, 14:00 UTC In-Reply-To: <7f617d270609131620nc12609ek2d08aea35df22d03@mail.gmail.com> References: <7f617d270609131620nc12609ek2d08aea35df22d03@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <450916D7.1010703@fedoraproject.org> Alex Maier wrote: > Be there! > > http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?year=2006&month=09&day=14&hour=14&min=0&sec=0 > > I'm not able to attend - I'm waiting for a sheriff's deputy to take a statement... My car was rummaged last night - in the rain... door left open... not a happy woman today. From rwhetsel at ravensong.com Thu Sep 14 13:26:07 2006 From: rwhetsel at ravensong.com (Robert Whetsel) Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 08:26:07 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Meeting reminder: Thu, Sep 14, 14:00 UTC In-Reply-To: <7f617d270609131620nc12609ek2d08aea35df22d03@mail.gmail.com> References: <7f617d270609131620nc12609ek2d08aea35df22d03@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1158240367.4509586fdbd1d@mail.ravensong.com> Sorry Guys, I will not be able to attend the meeting. I will be am on the job-site installing a Linux server for a new client; data migration is a tricky process. <8 new Linux users> :) -- Cheers, Robert C. Whetsel 240-215-3944 www.ravensong.com RavenSong Open Technologies, Inc. Frederick Innovative Technology Center, Inc. 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Thank you. ********************************************************************************* Quoting Alex Maier : > Be there! > > http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?year=2006&month=09&day=14&hour=14&min=0&sec=0 > > -- > Alex Maier > http://amaier.net > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > From cyberspy1 at gmail.com Thu Sep 14 16:33:10 2006 From: cyberspy1 at gmail.com (CyberSpy) Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 12:33:10 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] Meeting reminder: Thu, Sep 14, 14:00 UTC In-Reply-To: <7f617d270609131620nc12609ek2d08aea35df22d03@mail.gmail.com> References: <7f617d270609131620nc12609ek2d08aea35df22d03@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <108fe3f0609140933q18dc6961jf33a7352b40bc5d8@mail.gmail.com> Hey All, Unfortunately, I won't be able on IRC at that time as well, so won't be able to attend the meeting. I am in the process of opening a new studio and will be there (there is no router setup yet) On 9/13/06, Alex Maier wrote: > > Be there! > > > http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?year=2006&month=09&day=14&hour=14&min=0&sec=0 > > -- > Alex Maier > http://amaier.net > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- Surreptitiously Yours, CyberSpy www.cyberspy.ws -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bpepple at fedoraproject.org Thu Sep 14 22:12:00 2006 From: bpepple at fedoraproject.org (Brian Pepple) Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 18:12:00 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] Updating FedoraLeaflet.pdf Message-ID: <1158271920.8125.1.camel@shuttle.piedmont.com> Does someone have the original files for the FedoraLeaflet.pdf? 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I feel that I have not been able to give the ambassadors the time and effort it deserves. I would urge others that have the passion for the program to step up it is worth it. Robert 'Bob' Jensen From david at projetofedora.org Fri Sep 15 14:53:11 2006 From: david at projetofedora.org (David Barzilay) Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2006 09:53:11 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] CafeConf Event - Buenos Aires, Argentina Message-ID: Dear All, I was contacted by the organizers of CafeConf in Buenos Aires, Argentina and am wondering if someone is willing to represent Fedora over there. Below are some basic info in English, followed by more complete info in Spanish. Please let me know who's willing to step forward and I'll provide support from Brazil and from FAMSCO. http://www.cafeconf.org November, 10 and 11, 2006 Lima 717 - Universidad Argentina De la Empresa UADE - Buenos Aires Free and no cost entry with previous registration 5th Edition of the annual CaFeLUG (Federal Capital Free Software user Group) =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Fecha: 10 y 11 de Noviembre 2006 Lugar: Lima 717 - Universidad Argentina De la Empresa UADE - Capital Federal - Argentina Entrada: libre y gratuita con registraci?n previa. Es la 5ta. edici?n de un evento que realiza todos los a?os CaFeLUG (Grupo de Usuarios de Software Libre de Capital Federal). El mismo, es un evento de difusi?n y capacitaci?n sobre Software Libre, donde expertos en diferentes ?reas disertan sobre diversas tem?ticas del Software Libre, brindando charlas de todos los niveles y abarcando la mayor cantidad de temas posible. Esta edici?n de CaFeCONF tiene como objetivo convocar a los alumnos y profesores de nivel medio para mostrarles las herramientas disponibles para realizar sus tareas diarias y como interactuar con las ya existentes. Si logramos mostrarles los beneficios que obtendr?n al utilizarlas, daremos un gran paso para la incorporaci?n del software libre en la educaci?n. Por supuesto no dejaremos de lado las charlas t?cnicas, filos?ficas, tutoriales y todas las dem?s cosas que todos pudimos disfrutar en los eventos anteriores. Sobre CaFeLUG En el mes de agosto de 1999 un grupo de 6 personas movidas por un inter?s com?n, que en ese momento era Linux, crearon lo que se llamo Capital Federal Linux Users Group. A fin de compartir informaci?n sobre este sistema operativo. Al tiempo surgi? un creciente inter?s por la parte filos?fica del movimiento y le sumamos GNU al nombre del grupo. Pasando a ser Capital Federal GNU/Linux Users Group, luego del primer evento anual del 2002 nos dimos cuenta que en la comunidad exist?a mucha gente interesada en charlas t?cnicas, por lo que a las cl?sicas reuniones mensuales le sumamos jornadas con charlas t?cnicas de 2 horas sobre distintas tem?ticas a las que llamamos "CTT" (Charlas T?cnicas Trimestrales). Tambi?n hemos realizados varios festivales de instalaci?n (install-fests), d?as de demostraci?n (DemoDays), en donde mostramos a los asistentes las herramientas disponibles en GNU/Linux. Rondando el a?o 2004 nos fuimos dando cuenta que no solo eramos un grupo de usuarios de GNU/Linux, sino que eramos usuarios de Software Libre, y as? pasamos a ser el "Grupo de Usuarios de Software Libre de Capital Federal" a pesar de que no cambiamos nuestro nombre (CaFeLUG), el cual dejo de ser una sigla, para pasar a ser un nombre de fantas?a. Sobre CaFeCONF En el 2002 nos dimos cuenta que necesit?bamos difundir el Software Libre a la mayor cantidad de gente posible lo que nos llev? a realizar, lo que fue nuestro primer evento de gran magnitud, la primera "Conferencia Abierta de GNU/Linux" la cual realizamos en la Facultad de Ingenier?a de la UBA, con la asistencia de 600 personas durante el d?a del evento. En el 2003 mudamos el evento a la Facultad de Ciencias Exactas de la UBA en Ciudad Universitaria y se convocaron unas 400 personas en los 2 d?as que dur? el evento. En el 2004 pensamos realizar un evento m?s t?cnico, la mayor?a de las charlas se realizaban para usuarios m?s avanzados, tambi?n hubo espacio para los usuarios m?s noveles. Para este evento buscamos un lugar en donde dar distintas charlas en simult?neo, la Universidad Argentina De la Empresa (UADE) fue ese lugar. All? realizamos el evento con mayor asistencia de p?blico en comparaci?n con los anteriores a?os, fueron unas 1300 personas entre las cuales, hubieron visitantes de diferentes partes del pa?s y de otros pa?ses como M?xico, Brasil, Uruguay y Chile. El evento del 2005 que fuera declarado de inter?s cultural por la Honorable Legislatura de la Ciudad Aut?noma de Buenos Aires, lo realizamos nuevamente en la UADE. Seguimos con la linea t?cnica del evento, sumamos muchas novedades a la conferencia como los talleres de 2hs e invitamos a miembros destacados de la comunidad del Software Libre como Roberto Di Cosmo (Francia) y Jon 'maddog' Hall (EE.UU.). La conferencia fue de 3 d?as de duraci?n con un total de 115 charlas y 1400 asistentes. En estos 4 a?os en los cuales hemos tenido diferentes grados de ?xito intentamos difundir nuestra pasi?n por este modo de pensar, (el Software Libre) a todos los asistentes, sorteando algunas dificultades y sumando muchos aciertos. Hoy creemos que pudimos hacerlo bastante bien. Best regards, -- David Barzilay Brazilian Fedora Ambassador FAMSCO Member From guillermo.gomez at gmail.com Fri Sep 15 15:24:14 2006 From: guillermo.gomez at gmail.com (Gomix.homelinux.net) Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2006 11:24:14 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] CafeConf Event - Buenos Aires, Argentina In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <63a901070609150824n67bf1709k492d1ef057324b36@mail.gmail.com> I'm not there, but available. Guillermo On 9/15/06, David Barzilay wrote: > > Dear All, > > I was contacted by the organizers of CafeConf in Buenos Aires, Argentina > and am wondering if someone is willing to represent Fedora over there. > > Below are some basic info in English, followed by more complete info in > Spanish. > > Please let me know who's willing to step forward and I'll provide > support from Brazil and from FAMSCO. > > http://www.cafeconf.org > November, 10 and 11, 2006 > Lima 717 - Universidad Argentina De la Empresa UADE - Buenos Aires > Free and no cost entry with previous registration > > 5th Edition of the annual CaFeLUG (Federal Capital Free Software user > Group) > > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > > Fecha: 10 y 11 de Noviembre 2006 > Lugar: Lima 717 - Universidad Argentina De la Empresa UADE - Capital > Federal - Argentina > Entrada: libre y gratuita con registraci?n previa. > > > Es la 5ta. edici?n de un evento que realiza todos los a?os CaFeLUG (Grupo > de Usuarios de Software Libre de Capital Federal). > > El mismo, es un evento de difusi?n y capacitaci?n sobre Software Libre, > donde expertos en diferentes ?reas disertan sobre diversas tem?ticas del > Software Libre, brindando charlas de todos los niveles y abarcando la > mayor cantidad de temas posible. > > Esta edici?n de CaFeCONF tiene como objetivo convocar a los alumnos y > profesores de nivel medio para mostrarles las herramientas disponibles > para realizar sus tareas diarias y como interactuar con las ya > existentes. Si logramos mostrarles los beneficios que obtendr?n al > utilizarlas, daremos un gran paso para la incorporaci?n del software > libre en la educaci?n. > > Por supuesto no dejaremos de lado las charlas t?cnicas, filos?ficas, > tutoriales y todas las dem?s cosas que todos pudimos disfrutar en los > eventos anteriores. > > > > Sobre CaFeLUG > En el mes de agosto de 1999 un grupo de 6 personas movidas por un inter?s > com?n, que en ese momento era Linux, crearon lo que se llamo Capital > Federal Linux Users Group. A fin de compartir informaci?n sobre este > sistema operativo. > > Al tiempo surgi? un creciente inter?s por la parte filos?fica del > movimiento y le sumamos GNU al nombre del grupo. Pasando a ser Capital > Federal GNU/Linux Users Group, luego del primer evento anual del 2002 > nos dimos cuenta que en la comunidad exist?a mucha gente interesada en > charlas t?cnicas, por lo que a las cl?sicas reuniones mensuales le > sumamos jornadas con charlas t?cnicas de 2 horas sobre distintas > tem?ticas a las que llamamos "CTT" (Charlas T?cnicas Trimestrales). > Tambi?n hemos realizados varios festivales de instalaci?n > (install-fests), d?as de demostraci?n (DemoDays), en donde mostramos a > los asistentes las herramientas disponibles en GNU/Linux. > > Rondando el a?o 2004 nos fuimos dando cuenta que no solo eramos un grupo > de usuarios de GNU/Linux, sino que eramos usuarios de Software Libre, y > as? pasamos a ser el "Grupo de Usuarios de Software Libre de Capital > Federal" a pesar de que no cambiamos nuestro nombre (CaFeLUG), el cual > dejo de ser una sigla, para pasar a ser un nombre de fantas?a. > > > Sobre CaFeCONF > En el 2002 nos dimos cuenta que necesit?bamos difundir el Software Libre > a la mayor cantidad de gente posible lo que nos llev? a realizar, lo que > fue nuestro primer evento de gran magnitud, la primera "Conferencia > Abierta de GNU/Linux" la cual realizamos en la Facultad de Ingenier?a > de la UBA, con la asistencia de 600 personas durante el d?a del evento. > En el 2003 mudamos el evento a la Facultad de Ciencias Exactas de la UBA > en Ciudad Universitaria y se convocaron unas 400 personas en los 2 d?as > que dur? el evento. > > En el 2004 pensamos realizar un evento m?s t?cnico, la mayor?a de las > charlas se realizaban para usuarios m?s avanzados, tambi?n hubo espacio > para los usuarios m?s noveles. Para este evento buscamos un lugar en > donde dar distintas charlas en simult?neo, la Universidad Argentina De > la Empresa (UADE) fue ese lugar. All? realizamos el evento con mayor > asistencia de p?blico en comparaci?n con los anteriores a?os, fueron > unas 1300 personas entre las cuales, hubieron visitantes de diferentes > partes del pa?s y de otros pa?ses como M?xico, Brasil, Uruguay y Chile. > > El evento del 2005 que fuera declarado de inter?s cultural por la > Honorable Legislatura de la Ciudad Aut?noma de Buenos Aires, lo > realizamos nuevamente en la UADE. Seguimos con la linea t?cnica del > evento, sumamos muchas novedades a la conferencia como los talleres de > 2hs e invitamos a miembros destacados de la comunidad del Software Libre > como Roberto Di Cosmo (Francia) y Jon 'maddog' Hall (EE.UU.). La > conferencia fue de 3 d?as de duraci?n con un total de 115 charlas y 1400 > asistentes. > > En estos 4 a?os en los cuales hemos tenido diferentes grados de ?xito > intentamos difundir nuestra pasi?n por este modo de pensar, (el Software > Libre) a todos los asistentes, sorteando algunas dificultades y sumando > muchos aciertos. Hoy creemos que pudimos hacerlo bastante bien. > > Best regards, > -- > David Barzilay > Brazilian Fedora Ambassador > FAMSCO Member > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- Ing.Guillermo Gomez S. http://blog.gomix.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From david at projetofedora.org Fri Sep 15 15:57:39 2006 From: david at projetofedora.org (David Barzilay) Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2006 10:57:39 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] CafeConf Event - Buenos Aires, Argentina Message-ID: Hola Guillermo, Thanks for stepping forward. I just checked your personal Fedora webpage and realized you live in Venezuela. How would you deal with transport and accommodation issues? Best regards, -- Dave Barzilay > I'm not there, but available. > > Guillermo > > On 9/15/06, David Barzilay wrote: > > > > Dear All, > > > > I was contacted by the organizers of CafeConf in Buenos Aires, Argentina > > and am wondering if someone is willing to represent Fedora over there. > > > > Below are some basic info in English, followed by more complete info in > > Spanish. > > > > Please let me know who's willing to step forward and I'll provide > > support from Brazil and from FAMSCO. > > > > http://www.cafeconf.org > > November, 10 and 11, 2006 > > Lima 717 - Universidad Argentina De la Empresa UADE - Buenos Aires > > Free and no cost entry with previous registration > > > > 5th Edition of the annual CaFeLUG (Federal Capital Free Software user > > Group) > > > > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > > > > Fecha: 10 y 11 de Noviembre 2006 > > Lugar: Lima 717 - Universidad Argentina De la Empresa UADE - Capital > > Federal - Argentina > > Entrada: libre y gratuita con registraci?n previa. > > > > > > Es la 5ta. edici?n de un evento que realiza todos los a?os CaFeLUG (Grupo > > de Usuarios de Software Libre de Capital Federal). > > > > El mismo, es un evento de difusi?n y capacitaci?n sobre Software Libre, > > donde expertos en diferentes ?reas disertan sobre diversas tem?ticas del > > Software Libre, brindando charlas de todos los niveles y abarcando la > > mayor cantidad de temas posible. > > > > Esta edici?n de CaFeCONF tiene como objetivo convocar a los alumnos y > > profesores de nivel medio para mostrarles las herramientas disponibles > > para realizar sus tareas diarias y como interactuar con las ya > > existentes. Si logramos mostrarles los beneficios que obtendr?n al > > utilizarlas, daremos un gran paso para la incorporaci?n del software > > libre en la educaci?n. > > > > Por supuesto no dejaremos de lado las charlas t?cnicas, filos?ficas, > > tutoriales y todas las dem?s cosas que todos pudimos disfrutar en los > > eventos anteriores. > > > > > > > > Sobre CaFeLUG > > En el mes de agosto de 1999 un grupo de 6 personas movidas por un inter?s > > com?n, que en ese momento era Linux, crearon lo que se llamo Capital > > Federal Linux Users Group. A fin de compartir informaci?n sobre este > > sistema operativo. > > > > Al tiempo surgi? un creciente inter?s por la parte filos?fica del > > movimiento y le sumamos GNU al nombre del grupo. Pasando a ser Capital > > Federal GNU/Linux Users Group, luego del primer evento anual del 2002 > > nos dimos cuenta que en la comunidad exist?a mucha gente interesada en > > charlas t?cnicas, por lo que a las cl?sicas reuniones mensuales le > > sumamos jornadas con charlas t?cnicas de 2 horas sobre distintas > > tem?ticas a las que llamamos "CTT" (Charlas T?cnicas Trimestrales). > > Tambi?n hemos realizados varios festivales de instalaci?n > > (install-fests), d?as de demostraci?n (DemoDays), en donde mostramos a > > los asistentes las herramientas disponibles en GNU/Linux. > > > > Rondando el a?o 2004 nos fuimos dando cuenta que no solo eramos un grupo > > de usuarios de GNU/Linux, sino que eramos usuarios de Software Libre, y > > as? pasamos a ser el "Grupo de Usuarios de Software Libre de Capital > > Federal" a pesar de que no cambiamos nuestro nombre (CaFeLUG), el cual > > dejo de ser una sigla, para pasar a ser un nombre de fantas?a. > > > > > > Sobre CaFeCONF > > En el 2002 nos dimos cuenta que necesit?bamos difundir el Software Libre > > a la mayor cantidad de gente posible lo que nos llev? a realizar, lo que > > fue nuestro primer evento de gran magnitud, la primera "Conferencia > > Abierta de GNU/Linux" la cual realizamos en la Facultad de Ingenier?a > > de la UBA, con la asistencia de 600 personas durante el d?a del evento. > > En el 2003 mudamos el evento a la Facultad de Ciencias Exactas de la UBA > > en Ciudad Universitaria y se convocaron unas 400 personas en los 2 d?as > > que dur? el evento. > > > > En el 2004 pensamos realizar un evento m?s t?cnico, la mayor?a de las > > charlas se realizaban para usuarios m?s avanzados, tambi?n hubo espacio > > para los usuarios m?s noveles. Para este evento buscamos un lugar en > > donde dar distintas charlas en simult?neo, la Universidad Argentina De > > la Empresa (UADE) fue ese lugar. All? realizamos el evento con mayor > > asistencia de p?blico en comparaci?n con los anteriores a?os, fueron > > unas 1300 personas entre las cuales, hubieron visitantes de diferentes > > partes del pa?s y de otros pa?ses como M?xico, Brasil, Uruguay y Chile. > > > > El evento del 2005 que fuera declarado de inter?s cultural por la > > Honorable Legislatura de la Ciudad Aut?noma de Buenos Aires, lo > > realizamos nuevamente en la UADE. Seguimos con la linea t?cnica del > > evento, sumamos muchas novedades a la conferencia como los talleres de > > 2hs e invitamos a miembros destacados de la comunidad del Software Libre > > como Roberto Di Cosmo (Francia) y Jon 'maddog' Hall (EE.UU.). La > > conferencia fue de 3 d?as de duraci?n con un total de 115 charlas y 1400 > > asistentes. > > > > En estos 4 a?os en los cuales hemos tenido diferentes grados de ?xito > > intentamos difundir nuestra pasi?n por este modo de pensar, (el Software > > Libre) a todos los asistentes, sorteando algunas dificultades y sumando > > muchos aciertos. Hoy creemos que pudimos hacerlo bastante bien. From guillermo.gomez at gmail.com Fri Sep 15 19:32:06 2006 From: guillermo.gomez at gmail.com (Gomix.homelinux.net) Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2006 15:32:06 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] CafeConf Event - Buenos Aires, Argentina In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <63a901070609151232q56d30b3ewfb31e85e3cf1153b@mail.gmail.com> Well, that was point when i said, "not there". I'm able to support the accomodation with some local relatives but have no transportation. I dont have budget for that air ticket. kr Guillermo On 9/15/06, David Barzilay wrote: > > Hola Guillermo, > > Thanks for stepping forward. > > I just checked your personal Fedora webpage and realized you live in > Venezuela. > > How would you deal with transport and accommodation issues? > > Best regards, > -- > Dave Barzilay > > > > I'm not there, but available. > > > > Guillermo > > > > On 9/15/06, David Barzilay wrote: > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > I was contacted by the organizers of CafeConf in Buenos Aires, > Argentina > > > and am wondering if someone is willing to represent Fedora over there. > > > > > > Below are some basic info in English, followed by more complete info > in > > > Spanish. > > > > > > Please let me know who's willing to step forward and I'll provide > > > support from Brazil and from FAMSCO. > > > > > > http://www.cafeconf.org > > > November, 10 and 11, 2006 > > > Lima 717 - Universidad Argentina De la Empresa UADE - Buenos Aires > > > Free and no cost entry with previous registration > > > > > > 5th Edition of the annual CaFeLUG (Federal Capital Free Software user > > > Group) > > > > > > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > > > > > > Fecha: 10 y 11 de Noviembre 2006 > > > Lugar: Lima 717 - Universidad Argentina De la Empresa UADE - Capital > > > Federal - Argentina > > > Entrada: libre y gratuita con registraci?n previa. > > > > > > > > > Es la 5ta. edici?n de un evento que realiza todos los a?os CaFeLUG > (Grupo > > > de Usuarios de Software Libre de Capital Federal). > > > > > > El mismo, es un evento de difusi?n y capacitaci?n sobre Software > Libre, > > > donde expertos en diferentes ?reas disertan sobre diversas tem?ticas > del > > > Software Libre, brindando charlas de todos los niveles y abarcando la > > > mayor cantidad de temas posible. > > > > > > Esta edici?n de CaFeCONF tiene como objetivo convocar a los alumnos y > > > profesores de nivel medio para mostrarles las herramientas disponibles > > > para realizar sus tareas diarias y como interactuar con las ya > > > existentes. Si logramos mostrarles los beneficios que obtendr?n al > > > utilizarlas, daremos un gran paso para la incorporaci?n del software > > > libre en la educaci?n. > > > > > > Por supuesto no dejaremos de lado las charlas t?cnicas, filos?ficas, > > > tutoriales y todas las dem?s cosas que todos pudimos disfrutar en los > > > eventos anteriores. > > > > > > > > > > > > Sobre CaFeLUG > > > En el mes de agosto de 1999 un grupo de 6 personas movidas por un > inter?s > > > com?n, que en ese momento era Linux, crearon lo que se llamo Capital > > > Federal Linux Users Group. A fin de compartir informaci?n sobre este > > > sistema operativo. > > > > > > Al tiempo surgi? un creciente inter?s por la parte filos?fica del > > > movimiento y le sumamos GNU al nombre del grupo. Pasando a ser Capital > > > Federal GNU/Linux Users Group, luego del primer evento anual del 2002 > > > nos dimos cuenta que en la comunidad exist?a mucha gente interesada en > > > charlas t?cnicas, por lo que a las cl?sicas reuniones mensuales le > > > sumamos jornadas con charlas t?cnicas de 2 horas sobre distintas > > > tem?ticas a las que llamamos "CTT" (Charlas T?cnicas Trimestrales). > > > Tambi?n hemos realizados varios festivales de instalaci?n > > > (install-fests), d?as de demostraci?n (DemoDays), en donde mostramos a > > > los asistentes las herramientas disponibles en GNU/Linux. > > > > > > Rondando el a?o 2004 nos fuimos dando cuenta que no solo eramos un > grupo > > > de usuarios de GNU/Linux, sino que eramos usuarios de Software Libre, > y > > > as? pasamos a ser el "Grupo de Usuarios de Software Libre de Capital > > > Federal" a pesar de que no cambiamos nuestro nombre (CaFeLUG), el cual > > > dejo de ser una sigla, para pasar a ser un nombre de fantas?a. > > > > > > > > > Sobre CaFeCONF > > > En el 2002 nos dimos cuenta que necesit?bamos difundir el Software > Libre > > > a la mayor cantidad de gente posible lo que nos llev? a realizar, lo > que > > > fue nuestro primer evento de gran magnitud, la primera "Conferencia > > > Abierta de GNU/Linux" la cual realizamos en la Facultad de Ingenier?a > > > de la UBA, con la asistencia de 600 personas durante el d?a del > evento. > > > En el 2003 mudamos el evento a la Facultad de Ciencias Exactas de la > UBA > > > en Ciudad Universitaria y se convocaron unas 400 personas en los 2 > d?as > > > que dur? el evento. > > > > > > En el 2004 pensamos realizar un evento m?s t?cnico, la mayor?a de las > > > charlas se realizaban para usuarios m?s avanzados, tambi?n hubo > espacio > > > para los usuarios m?s noveles. Para este evento buscamos un lugar en > > > donde dar distintas charlas en simult?neo, la Universidad Argentina De > > > la Empresa (UADE) fue ese lugar. All? realizamos el evento con mayor > > > asistencia de p?blico en comparaci?n con los anteriores a?os, fueron > > > unas 1300 personas entre las cuales, hubieron visitantes de diferentes > > > partes del pa?s y de otros pa?ses como M?xico, Brasil, Uruguay y > Chile. > > > > > > El evento del 2005 que fuera declarado de inter?s cultural por la > > > Honorable Legislatura de la Ciudad Aut?noma de Buenos Aires, lo > > > realizamos nuevamente en la UADE. Seguimos con la linea t?cnica del > > > evento, sumamos muchas novedades a la conferencia como los talleres de > > > 2hs e invitamos a miembros destacados de la comunidad del Software > Libre > > > como Roberto Di Cosmo (Francia) y Jon 'maddog' Hall (EE.UU.). La > > > conferencia fue de 3 d?as de duraci?n con un total de 115 charlas y > 1400 > > > asistentes. > > > > > > En estos 4 a?os en los cuales hemos tenido diferentes grados de ?xito > > > intentamos difundir nuestra pasi?n por este modo de pensar, (el > Software > > > Libre) a todos los asistentes, sorteando algunas dificultades y > sumando > > > muchos aciertos. Hoy creemos que pudimos hacerlo bastante bien. > -- Ing.Guillermo Gomez S. http://blog.gomix.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Regards, -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung From tchung at fedoraproject.org Sun Sep 17 07:01:23 2006 From: tchung at fedoraproject.org (Thomas Chung) Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 00:01:23 -0700 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Ambassadors Meeting Minutes 2006-09-14 Message-ID: <369bce3b0609170001m45333925rab3b9067ca2745a@mail.gmail.com> Fedora Ambassadors Meeting Minutes 2006-09-14 has been posted. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/2006-09-14 As a reminder, if you have an up-coming event for yourself, please post the event at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents and attend our regular meeting to report or send out an email report to fedora-ambassadors-list. 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I, for one, can agree. debian sarge has proven to be very stable for at least one server installation I admin. Not much can be done here, since Fedora aims to be leading edge. 2) Apt. For some reason or another, people can not see that ap-get install foo, smart install foo and yum install foo are all pretty much the same. "apt-get" it is one of the first things I hear when I ask "Why debian/Ubuntu?" Perhaps some effort could be made to provide education, both technical and user interaction, comparisons in an unbias fashion on these different package dependency tools. It should be an honest and be fair. 3) non-free. Yes, I know this is very much a double edge sword for Fedora. However, the fact remains, Joe user wants his MP3, DVD, Flash, Java etc. Yes, I know Fedora has been doing some very impressive work on gcj and gnash etc.. but when the FOSS alternatives are not up to scratch, people are left out to dry. IMHO Fedora shouldn't go out of its way to make adding perfectly legal packages, to its distribution, a black-art, undocumented nightmare for a new user... Advising users on how to get MP3 support should not be considered a cardinal sin. Heck, Fedora pushing xorg 7.1 was halted as to not break Nvida and Ati driver users! Talk about mixed messages. Fedora does not need to compromise its values in order to help users. Fedora should consider helping users instead of restricting. * Note this is my opinion on what I see in my local LUGs * I am a firm believer in FOSS and only use FOSS where ever I can. I do have to use closed source, non-free software, but I am at least technically inclined to install this myself ;-) Michael Gerold Kassube wrote: > Hi all, > > as you all can see and read in > http://desktoplinux.com/articles/AT5816278551.html we are ranged behind > all other ... > > What should / can / must we do, to get more acceptance on the user-side? > Do we need a strengh marketing concept? > > -- > Regards > > Gerold Kassube > Fedora Ambassador > > Deutschland / Germany > Schweiz / Switzerland > Email: GeroldKa at fedoraproject.org > > 1024D/F33128B9 4ABC A903 F1F4 D9CC C422 AACA EDF1 DF42 F331 28B9 > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > From francesco.ugolini at fedoraproject.org Sun Sep 17 10:37:07 2006 From: francesco.ugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 12:37:07 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Raleigh, we have a problem ... In-Reply-To: <50732.203.173.154.142.1158484926.squirrel@www.knox.net.nz> References: <1158482347.3694.7.camel@AMILO-GK.homenet.local> <50732.203.173.154.142.1158484926.squirrel@www.knox.net.nz> Message-ID: <8d41e9670609170337g47922562n71a272dcff0465a2@mail.gmail.com> I think that isn't a Fedora problem, is a Media problem. In fact, reading tech site or magazine i find dozen and dozen of page dedicated to Ubuntu and other distribution. In my country there are 5 or 6 magazine about linux and the last month i saw that in 4 of those there was an Ubuntu disc: that's marketing, not Open Source. So, i think that we have to use a different approach that can be considered more simple but more efficent: talking directly with people. This will be our strenght and only if we continue to work hardly our goals and our System will be know. Thanks Francesco On 9/17/06, Michael J. Knox wrote: > Hi, > > I have some ideas at why Fedora might be loosing favor with users. > > * Note this is my opinion on what I see in my local LUGs * > > New Zealand is, generally speaking, very much a debian/ubuntu user base. > > >From what I can see there are at least 3 main reasons. > > 1) Stability. People are often recommending or relating their experience, > with debian (proper) for things like servers or workstations. I, for one, > can agree. debian sarge has proven to be very stable for at least one > server installation I admin. > > Not much can be done here, since Fedora aims to be leading edge. > > 2) Apt. For some reason or another, people can not see that ap-get install > foo, smart install foo and yum install foo are all pretty much the same. > "apt-get" it is one of the first things I hear when I ask "Why > debian/Ubuntu?" > > Perhaps some effort could be made to provide education, both technical and > user interaction, comparisons in an unbias fashion on these different > package dependency tools. It should be an honest and be fair. > > 3) non-free. Yes, I know this is very much a double edge sword for Fedora. > However, the fact remains, Joe user wants his MP3, DVD, Flash, Java etc. > Yes, I know Fedora has been doing some very impressive work on gcj and > gnash etc.. but when the FOSS alternatives are not up to scratch, people > are left out to dry. > > IMHO Fedora shouldn't go out of its way to make adding perfectly legal > packages, to its distribution, a black-art, undocumented nightmare for a > new user... Advising users on how to get MP3 support should not be > considered a cardinal sin. Heck, Fedora pushing xorg 7.1 was halted as to > not break Nvida and Ati driver users! Talk about mixed messages. > > Fedora does not need to compromise its values in order to help users. > Fedora should consider helping users instead of restricting. > > * Note this is my opinion on what I see in my local LUGs * > > I am a firm believer in FOSS and only use FOSS where ever I can. I do have > to use closed source, non-free software, but I am at least technically > inclined to install this myself ;-) > > Michael > > > Gerold Kassube wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > as you all can see and read in > > http://desktoplinux.com/articles/AT5816278551.html we are ranged behind > > all other ... > > > > What should / can / must we do, to get more acceptance on the user-side? > > Do we need a strengh marketing concept? > > > > -- > > Regards > > > > Gerold Kassube > > Fedora Ambassador > > > > Deutschland / Germany > > Schweiz / Switzerland > > Email: GeroldKa at fedoraproject.org > > > > 1024D/F33128B9 4ABC A903 F1F4 D9CC C422 AACA EDF1 DF42 F331 28B9 > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > From thomas.canniot at laposte.net Sun Sep 17 12:34:39 2006 From: thomas.canniot at laposte.net (Thomas Canniot) Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 14:34:39 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] REMINDER French Meeting today 1830 Message-ID: <1158496479.3001.18.camel@MrTomLinux.workstation> This mail is a reminder for today?s meeting for French ambassadors and interested people. 2006-09-17 / 18:30 UTC IRC: freenode #fedora-mktg-fr Ce mail est un rappel pour la r?union des ambassadeurs francophones, qui aura lieu ce dimanche (17 sept.) ? 20h30 heure de Paris sur IRC (freenode) #fedora-mktg-fr . -- Thomas Canniot http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasCanniot From thomas.canniot at laposte.net Sun Sep 17 15:01:26 2006 From: thomas.canniot at laposte.net (Thomas Canniot) Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 17:01:26 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] French Fedora Ambassadors Meeting Minutes 06-09-03 and 06-09-10 Message-ID: <1158505287.3001.21.camel@MrTomLinux.workstation> French Fedora Ambassadors Meeting Minutes 2006-09-03 and 2006-09-10 have been posted. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/FrenchTeam/Reunions/06-09-03 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/FrenchTeam/Reunions/06-09-10 Our next meeting will be held on 2006-09-17 18:30 UTC -- Thomas Canniot http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasCanniot From sankarshan.mukhopadhyay at gmail.com Mon Sep 18 03:37:24 2006 From: sankarshan.mukhopadhyay at gmail.com (Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay) Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 09:07:24 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Raleigh, we have a problem ... In-Reply-To: <1158482347.3694.7.camel@AMILO-GK.homenet.local> References: <1158482347.3694.7.camel@AMILO-GK.homenet.local> Message-ID: <450E1474.8040208@gmail.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Gerold Kassube wrote: > as you all can see and read in > http://desktoplinux.com/articles/AT5816278551.html we are ranged behind > all other ... > > What should / can / must we do, to get more acceptance on the user-side? > Do we need a strengh marketing concept? Oh boy...:( This is becoming somewhat of a nagging trend when one talks to UGs or even new users. And the reasons are as varied as: [o] everything on my spanking new laptop/desktop works out of the box [o] apt-get [o] great on the eyes to the now growing chorus of "ubuntu is more participatory in nature" Come to think of it, a "best distribution" in today's times is not really an issue of technicality (after all nearly a whole bundle seems to pack in the same package versions and the like) rather an issue of perception. It is an uphill battle to change perception because perhaps the only way one can do it is to keep meeting folks and keep talking to them (that's what the Ambassadors are here for). Keep talking about all the upcoming goodies, keep talking about what the future looks like and well you get the drift I guess - Keep Talking. The issue of whether we have the greatest bling or Ubuntu has it is a bit secondary, the issue is what can be done to address the outreach of Fedora more. The more of Fedora there is on the market, the more folks would be using it and that would enable a whole bundle of constructive critical appraisal (in theory at least). This of course leads to the issue of generating more local mirrors of Fedora - an issue that takes time to happen but when it does it is sweet music. :SM - -- You see things; and you say 'Why?'; But I dream things that never were; and I say 'Why not?' - George Bernard Shaw -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFDhR0XQZpNTcrCzMRAsJ9AJ43/02SLTDOHQqOpPwQYrLrm/LXRwCfR3Wl MU+7GlsVV5hVJ/Ct9+x7C2M= =rFyz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Mon Sep 18 05:58:27 2006 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul) Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 11:28:27 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Raleigh, we have a problem ... In-Reply-To: <50732.203.173.154.142.1158484926.squirrel@www.knox.net.nz> References: <1158482347.3694.7.camel@AMILO-GK.homenet.local> <50732.203.173.154.142.1158484926.squirrel@www.knox.net.nz> Message-ID: <450E3583.1050202@fedoraproject.org> Michael J. Knox wrote: > IMHO Fedora shouldn't go out of its way to make adding perfectly legal > packages, to its distribution, a black-art, undocumented nightmare for a > new user... Advising users on how to get MP3 support should not be > considered a cardinal sin. Heck, Fedora pushing xorg 7.1 was halted as to > not break Nvida and Ati driver users! Talk about mixed messages. The Xorg update was not halted for this reason. Just ask the Xorg maintainer if you are not sure. We dont go out of our way to make anything a black art either. Lets stop the silly conspiracy theories and unfounded claims. Rahul From michael at knox.net.nz Mon Sep 18 06:44:33 2006 From: michael at knox.net.nz (Michael J. Knox) Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 18:44:33 +1200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Raleigh, we have a problem ... In-Reply-To: <450E3583.1050202@fedoraproject.org> References: <1158482347.3694.7.camel@AMILO-GK.homenet.local> <50732.203.173.154.142.1158484926.squirrel@www.knox.net.nz> <450E3583.1050202@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <450E4051.6060400@knox.net.nz> Rahul wrote: > Michael J. Knox wrote: > >> IMHO Fedora shouldn't go out of its way to make adding perfectly legal >> packages, to its distribution, a black-art, undocumented nightmare for a >> new user... Advising users on how to get MP3 support should not be >> considered a cardinal sin. Heck, Fedora pushing xorg 7.1 was halted >> as to >> not break Nvida and Ati driver users! Talk about mixed messages. > > The Xorg update was not halted for this reason. Just ask the Xorg > maintainer if you are not sure. We dont go out of our way to make > anything a black art either. Lets stop the silly conspiracy theories > and unfounded claims. Hi Rahul, Not a conspiracy theory at all, I was in IRC chatting with Mike Harris chatting about this subject, I was there reading the fedora-devel@ mailing lists. I am nor blind nor stupid. To state that I am spreading a "conspiracy theory" is crap. Thanks Rahul. IIRC Mike Harris wanted to push the xorg 7.1 release. Here, let me quote him: "Fedora does not support proprietary drivers at all, and never has, nor has any Red Hat OS that preceded it. Our OS products are not held hostage to the release schedule whims of 3rd party proprietary driver suppliers." He then went on to say: "I kindof feel like staying up all night tonight now, and releasing 7.1 for FC5 on Wednesday." All on the fedora-devel achieves, there for your reviewing pleasure. I do know that Mike Harris is no longer a RedHat employee, but at the time of this issue, he was. However, this is the end result: (fedora-advisory-board posting made by Max Spevack): http://lwn.net/Articles/195356/ Basically "The conclusion was that the interests of Fedora users using proprietary NVidia modules outweigh the interests of other users who would benefit from this update."[1] I was also there when everyone was berating Eric S. Raymond for the mere suggestion of RedHat making it easier for end users to add MP3 and DVD support. The sheer notation of doing so, left the fedora-devel mailing looking like a kindergarden play yard (not too mention IRC).Fedora's attitude towards those that do need 3rd party, non-distributable or non-free, is doing it damage. I am just telling you how it is out there, out side your little RedHat office.... Its not a conspiracy when I front up to a LUG and have to answer the whys? of users not interested in using Fedora and then relay that to the ambassador list! Instead of telling me I am spreading "unfounded claims" and "conspiracy theories" on what I have just relied to you, based on first hand end user experiences, why don't you make a founded effort to help set the story straight? Why don't you, as a member of the Fedora Project Board and a member of the Fedora Ambassador Steering commitee, do something to help the Fedora advocates actually advocate for their platform of choice, instead of telling to "stop the silly conspiracy theories" ? Or is that too much to expect? Thanks Michael [1] http://lwn.net/Articles/195351/ From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Mon Sep 18 07:10:07 2006 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul) Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 12:40:07 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Raleigh, we have a problem ... In-Reply-To: <450E4051.6060400@knox.net.nz> References: <1158482347.3694.7.camel@AMILO-GK.homenet.local> <50732.203.173.154.142.1158484926.squirrel@www.knox.net.nz> <450E3583.1050202@fedoraproject.org> <450E4051.6060400@knox.net.nz> Message-ID: <450E464F.30409@fedoraproject.org> Michael J. Knox wrote: > Hi Rahul, > > Not a conspiracy theory at all, I was in IRC chatting with Mike Harris > chatting about this subject, I was there reading the fedora-devel@ > mailing lists. I am nor blind nor stupid. To state that I am spreading a > "conspiracy theory" is crap. Thanks Rahul. The conspiracy theory is that we are making things deliberately a black art which is not true at all. > > Basically "The conclusion was that the interests of Fedora users using > proprietary NVidia modules outweigh the interests of other users who > would benefit from this update."[1] Amazingly bad conclusion. So much for a detailed explanation of the process. We might as well as have not discussed this issue and conveyed the ideas better. What instead happened was that at the time we were discussing this issue, the Xorg maintainer happened to Ajax and he had no intention on his own to provide a update and we decided that we need to have a general update policy and until then the updates would be a maintainer's decision. > > I was also there when everyone was berating Eric S. Raymond for the mere > suggestion of RedHat making it easier for end users to add MP3 and DVD > support. The sheer notation of doing so, left the fedora-devel mailing > looking like a kindergarden play yard (not too mention IRC).Fedora's > attitude towards those that do need 3rd party, non-distributable or > non-free, is doing it damage. I am just telling you how it is out there, > out side your little RedHat office.... First, lets stop with belittling other people. My Fedora work has nothing to do with Red Hat. I have been involved with Fedora much before I joined Red Hat so what office I am in is completely irrelevant to the current discussion. I have spend enough time "out there" too to understand the issues that pop up quite often. ESR didnt merely come up with a polite request to add MP3 support. He claimed incorrect things about the patents not covering decoders. The mail was full of inflammatory leads. > Its not a conspiracy when I front up to a LUG and have to answer the > whys? of users not interested in using Fedora and then relay that to the > ambassador list!! If some users wont be interested until we include proprietary software by default in Fedora, then we are already aware of that. As a ambassadors, it would be your job to point out the project's objectives politely. > > Instead of telling me I am spreading "unfounded claims" and "conspiracy > theories" on what I have just relied to you, based on first hand end > user experiences, why don't you make a founded effort to help set the > story straight? Yep. I have already set the stories straight many times and I will continue to do so. Why don't you, as a member of the Fedora Project Board > and a member of the Fedora Ambassador Steering commitee, do something to > help the Fedora advocates actually advocate for their platform of > choice, instead of telling to "stop the silly conspiracy theories" ? > > Or is that too much to expect? You assume this is not already been done. Suffice to say, this is not true. Rahul From michael at knox.net.nz Mon Sep 18 07:53:45 2006 From: michael at knox.net.nz (Michael J. Knox) Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 19:53:45 +1200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Raleigh, we have a problem ... In-Reply-To: <450E464F.30409@fedoraproject.org> References: <1158482347.3694.7.camel@AMILO-GK.homenet.local> <50732.203.173.154.142.1158484926.squirrel@www.knox.net.nz> <450E3583.1050202@fedoraproject.org> <450E4051.6060400@knox.net.nz> <450E464F.30409@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <450E5089.3040109@knox.net.nz> Rahul wrote: >> >> Basically "The conclusion was that the interests of Fedora users >> using proprietary NVidia modules outweigh the interests of other >> users who would benefit from this update."[1] > > Amazingly bad conclusion. So much for a detailed explanation of the > process. We might as well as have not discussed this issue and > conveyed the ideas better. What instead happened was that at the time > we were discussing this issue, the Xorg maintainer happened to Ajax > and he had no intention on his own to provide a update and we decided > that we need to have a general update policy and until then the > updates would be a maintainer's decision. It might be a bad conclusion in the eyes of a RedHat employee and someone high in the "ranks" of the Fedora community... but read the writing on the wall! If everyone is calling it a cow, it moos like a cow.. its a good chance it is a cow, even if you call it a dog. As a Fedora user and (still) a Fedora contributor, it is the same conclusion I drew from the issue. >> I was also there when everyone was berating Eric S. Raymond for the >> mere suggestion of RedHat making it easier for end users to add MP3 >> and DVD support. The sheer notation of doing so, left the >> fedora-devel mailing looking like a kindergarden play yard (not too >> mention IRC).Fedora's attitude towards those that do need 3rd party, >> non-distributable or non-free, is doing it damage. I am just telling >> you how it is out there, out side your little RedHat office.... > > First, lets stop with belittling other people. My Fedora work has > nothing to do with Red Hat. I have been involved with Fedora much > before I joined Red Hat so what office I am in is completely > irrelevant to the current discussion. I have spend enough time "out > there" too to understand the issues that pop up quite often. Clearly you don't understand, either that, or you are covering your ears and going "la la la la la everything is fine la la la la la" because the landscape is not peachy for Fedora in my country. > ESR didnt merely come up with a polite request to add MP3 support. He > claimed incorrect things about the patents not covering decoders. The > mail was full of inflammatory leads. Right or wrong approach to a subject does not make the subject its self wrong. In my opinion, ESR has some very valid points, one that didn't seem to be heard. >> Its not a conspiracy when I front up to a LUG and have to answer the >> whys? of users not interested in using Fedora and then relay that to >> the ambassador list!! > > If some users wont be interested until we include proprietary software > by default in Fedora, then we are already aware of that. As a > ambassadors, it would be your job to point out the project's > objectives politely. That is NOT what is being asked for or even suggested!! Ubuntu, for example, does not redistribute non-free in its distribution, however, it (non-free) is made easily accessable (legally) through hosted repositories. My initial comment was that is should not be a "cardinal sin" to advising users on how to install perfectly legal 3rd party packages. >> >> Instead of telling me I am spreading "unfounded claims" and >> "conspiracy theories" on what I have just relied to you, based on >> first hand end user experiences, why don't you make a founded effort >> to help set the story straight? > > Yep. I have already set the stories straight many times and I will > continue to do so. Seems to be working well, since Fedora's popularity appears to be falling..... > Why don't you, as a member of the Fedora Project Board >> and a member of the Fedora Ambassador Steering commitee, do something >> to help the Fedora advocates actually advocate for their platform of >> choice, instead of telling to "stop the silly conspiracy theories" ? >> >> Or is that too much to expect? > > You assume this is not already been done. Suffice to say, this is not > true. I see nothing from Fedora that indicates that its addressing valid and real issues that hamper the ability for users to switch or even in some cases, recommend, Fedora. The fact that Fedora seems to be loosing favor, only proves to me, that what ever is being do, is not working. Maybe I am wrong.. maybe everyone in the LUGs around have it right... I don't know. Michael From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Mon Sep 18 08:16:25 2006 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul) Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 13:46:25 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Raleigh, we have a problem ... In-Reply-To: <450E5089.3040109@knox.net.nz> References: <1158482347.3694.7.camel@AMILO-GK.homenet.local> <50732.203.173.154.142.1158484926.squirrel@www.knox.net.nz> <450E3583.1050202@fedoraproject.org> <450E4051.6060400@knox.net.nz> <450E464F.30409@fedoraproject.org> <450E5089.3040109@knox.net.nz> Message-ID: <450E55D9.6000508@fedoraproject.org> Michael J. Knox wrote: > Rahul wrote: >>> >>> Basically "The conclusion was that the interests of Fedora users >>> using proprietary NVidia modules outweigh the interests of other >>> users who would benefit from this update."[1] >> >> Amazingly bad conclusion. So much for a detailed explanation of the >> process. We might as well as have not discussed this issue and >> conveyed the ideas better. What instead happened was that at the time >> we were discussing this issue, the Xorg maintainer happened to Ajax >> and he had no intention on his own to provide a update and we decided >> that we need to have a general update policy and until then the >> updates would be a maintainer's decision. > > It might be a bad conclusion in the eyes of a RedHat employee and > someone high in the "ranks" of the Fedora community... but read the > writing on the wall! > > If everyone is calling it a cow, it moos like a cow.. its a good chance > it is a cow, even if you call it a dog. As a Fedora user and (still) a > Fedora contributor, it is the same conclusion I drew from the issue. Just pointing out its a incorrect conclusion. Your perception doesnt change that. If you want to continue spreading a wrong idea regardless of the facts, that's your choice but it is not in the best interests of the project. > >>> I was also there when everyone was berating Eric S. Raymond for the >>> mere suggestion of RedHat making it easier for end users to add MP3 >>> and DVD support. The sheer notation of doing so, left the >>> fedora-devel mailing looking like a kindergarden play yard (not too >>> mention IRC).Fedora's attitude towards those that do need 3rd party, >>> non-distributable or non-free, is doing it damage. I am just telling >>> you how it is out there, out side your little RedHat office.... >> >> First, lets stop with belittling other people. My Fedora work has >> nothing to do with Red Hat. I have been involved with Fedora much >> before I joined Red Hat so what office I am in is completely >> irrelevant to the current discussion. I have spend enough time "out >> there" too to understand the issues that pop up quite often. > > Clearly you don't understand, either that, or you are covering your ears > and going "la la la la la everything is fine la la la la la" because the > landscape is not peachy for Fedora in my country. Good attitude there. You assumed that I am sitting in a office and not speaking to other people or events. That assumption is just not true. > >> ESR didnt merely come up with a polite request to add MP3 support. He >> claimed incorrect things about the patents not covering decoders. The >> mail was full of inflammatory leads. > Right or wrong approach to a subject does not make the subject its self > wrong. Stating completely incorrect facts in a inflammatory mail does mean that your valid points if any has very good chances of getting lost. In my opinion, ESR has some very valid points, one that didn't > seem to be heard. Please specify exactly what changes you wanted to be done. As I understand it, his changes were clearly heard and rejected as being contradictory to the Fedora objectives. > That is NOT what is being asked for or even suggested!! Ubuntu, for > example, does not redistribute non-free in its distribution, however, it > (non-free) is made easily accessable (legally) through hosted > repositories. My initial comment was that is should not be a "cardinal > sin" to advising users on how to install perfectly legal 3rd party > packages. I didnt see anybody claim it was a cardinal sin. Ubuntu by the way does distribute non-free software. https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-advisory-board/2006-April/msg00170.html http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/licensing Look up kernel-restricted package for example. Different distributions have different objectives. Let's just accept that and not try to be mimic what others do. >> >> Yep. I have already set the stories straight many times and I will >> continue to do so. > Seems to be working well, since Fedora's popularity appears to be > falling..... Those two are not connected. > > I see nothing from Fedora that indicates that its addressing valid and > real issues that hamper the ability for users to switch or even in some > cases, recommend, Fedora. The fact that Fedora seems to be loosing > favor, only proves to me, that what ever is being do, is not working. > > Maybe I am wrong.. maybe everyone in the LUGs around have it right... I > don't know. It would nice to have a list of those real world issues and what changes is expected. Other than the suggestion that we include proprietary software either in the distribution or as a repository, do you have any other ideas? Rahul From michael at knox.net.nz Mon Sep 18 08:20:48 2006 From: michael at knox.net.nz (Michael J. Knox) Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 20:20:48 +1200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Raleigh, we have a problem ... In-Reply-To: <450E55D9.6000508@fedoraproject.org> References: <1158482347.3694.7.camel@AMILO-GK.homenet.local> <50732.203.173.154.142.1158484926.squirrel@www.knox.net.nz> <450E3583.1050202@fedoraproject.org> <450E4051.6060400@knox.net.nz> <450E464F.30409@fedoraproject.org> <450E5089.3040109@knox.net.nz> <450E55D9.6000508@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <450E56E0.8020400@knox.net.nz> Oh well, maybe I am in the wrong place, fighting the wrong fight. Good luck with it. Michael From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Mon Sep 18 08:31:26 2006 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul) Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 14:01:26 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Updating FedoraLeaflet.pdf In-Reply-To: <1158271920.8125.1.camel@shuttle.piedmont.com> References: <1158271920.8125.1.camel@shuttle.piedmont.com> Message-ID: <450E595E.5030306@fedoraproject.org> Brian Pepple wrote: > Does someone have the original files for the FedoraLeaflet.pdf? It > could really use an update for the changes (Fedora Foundation, etc.) > that have occurred since it was originally written. > > /B I did it originally by saving the file as HTML from the print view, importing it in Openoffice.org, doing some format and language cleanups and exporting into PDF. The whole overview page at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Overview needs a cleanup though. If you want to try working on that, please go ahead and I will review it. Rahul From lxmaier at gmail.com Mon Sep 18 13:27:17 2006 From: lxmaier at gmail.com (Alex Maier) Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 09:27:17 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] Famsco Election Update Message-ID: <7f617d270609180627r366796f9g9d43a1a31c511509@mail.gmail.com> Folks, Currently we have eight candidates running for seven seats on Famsco -- I am glad to say that all the candidates are committed Ambassadors and I am honored to have them on the ballot with me. However, I am sure there are a few more people out there who would make a great candidate, and I would like to encourage you all to either self-nominate, or to encourage people you think will be good leaders to step up and put their name on the list: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/SteeringCommittee/Election/2006Nominations The nomination period will close at 23:59 UTC on September 26. Thank you, Alex From stickster at gmail.com Tue Sep 19 01:26:06 2006 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 21:26:06 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] Raleigh, we have a problem ... In-Reply-To: <50732.203.173.154.142.1158484926.squirrel@www.knox.net.nz> References: <1158482347.3694.7.camel@AMILO-GK.homenet.local> <50732.203.173.154.142.1158484926.squirrel@www.knox.net.nz> Message-ID: <1158629166.30773.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Sun, 2006-09-17 at 21:22 +1200, Michael J. Knox wrote: > 3) non-free. Yes, I know this is very much a double edge sword for Fedora. > However, the fact remains, Joe user wants his MP3, DVD, Flash, Java etc. > Yes, I know Fedora has been doing some very impressive work on gcj and > gnash etc.. but when the FOSS alternatives are not up to scratch, people > are left out to dry. > > IMHO Fedora shouldn't go out of its way to make adding perfectly legal > packages, to its distribution, a black-art, undocumented nightmare for a > new user... Advising users on how to get MP3 support should not be > considered a cardinal sin. 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I now understand why my girlfriend prefer kubuntu instead! The Kmenu is so HUGE by default in Fedora and since FC3 I've not seen any changes in terms of themes and icon sets. Bluecurve is old now for a KDE window decorator !! Anyone got a bright idea where these discussions might be taken seriously ? if not, Ill be happy to file a series of RFE !! Chitlesh -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com From guillermo.gomez at gmail.com Wed Sep 20 00:00:12 2006 From: guillermo.gomez at gmail.com (Guillermo Gómez Savino) Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 17:00:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Ambassadors] See where all our friends are on my Friend Map! Message-ID: <20060920000012.156561D0F7@dm0.slide.com> Guillermo G?mez Savino started a Friend Map on Frappr so your friends can all see each other on a map. Come put yourself on the map! 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I would like to step down from being the co-ordinator for the FreeMedia India Program and let someone who's able to work on it be the co-ordinator... As a matter of fact, i havent updated the FreeMedia India Page for this month yet... and i hope to do that very soon... Guys am sorry for this backlash..... I would surely point out me being a Senior Undergraduate student right now as my time consuming work...... Sorry guys... i will surely be there as an ambassador and will join back the FreeMedia India Program as soon as i am free.... Thanks -- C.Santosh Kumar **************** CAUTION - Disclaimer ************ This e-mail contains PRIVILEGED AND CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION intended solely for the use of the addressee(s). If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender by e-mail and delete the original message. Further, you are not to copy, disclose, or distribute this e-mail or its contents to any other person and any such actions are unlawful. 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Cheers, a On 9/19/06, Santosh Kumar wrote: > Hi everyone! > I've noticed this for sometime now that i am unable to dedicate true > myself for this Fedora Ambassdor program for all what it demands because of > my exams and stuff... I would like to step down from being the co-ordinator > for the FreeMedia India Program and let someone who's able to work on it be > the co-ordinator... As a matter of fact, i havent updated the FreeMedia > India Page for this month yet... and i hope to do that very soon... Guys am > sorry for this backlash..... I would surely point out me being a Senior > Undergraduate student right now as my time consuming work...... Sorry > guys... i will surely be there as an ambassador and will join back the > FreeMedia India Program as soon as i am free.... > > Thanks > -- > C.Santosh Kumar > > > **************** CAUTION - > Disclaimer ************ > This e-mail contains PRIVILEGED AND CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION intended solely > for the use of the addressee(s). 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I would like to step down from being the co-ordinator > for the FreeMedia India Program and let someone who's able to work on it be > the co-ordinator... As a matter of fact, i havent updated the FreeMedia > India Page for this month yet... and i hope to do that very soon... Guys am > sorry for this backlash..... I would surely point out me being a Senior > Undergraduate student right now as my time consuming work...... Sorry > guys... i will surely be there as an ambassador and will join back the > FreeMedia India Program as soon as i am free.... > > Thanks > -- > C.Santosh Kumar Santosh, I appreciate your efforts and contribution so far. We'll certainly wait for your return as you're available again for Fedora FreeMedia Program. In the meanwhile, if any of you would like to lead FreeMedia India Program, please feel free to contact me. Regards, -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung From karlie.robinson at fedoraproject.org Wed Sep 20 08:32:32 2006 From: karlie.robinson at fedoraproject.org (Karlie Robinson) Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 08:32:32 +0000 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: Sorry Guys In-Reply-To: <369bce3b0609192111j420fc604ne1d2de17d5b48845@mail.gmail.com> References: <369bce3b0609192111j420fc604ne1d2de17d5b48845@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4510FCA0.9090301@fedoraproject.org> If we can find someone to compile the list of addresses for me, I can fill the Indian Requests when I fill the rest of the main list. I'm just super busy myself with the start of school for my boys (I'm now trying to fit "Taxi Driver" duties into my day) They don't have to be in a spread sheet, but if they could have Name on the first line and "INDIA" on the very last line (with nothing else, no spaces punctuation, any postal codes moved to the line above etc) I can then copy-paste it into my postage software. And yes, I'll do them all - I'll just need someone to assist me. ~Karlie From lxmaier at gmail.com Wed Sep 20 12:36:31 2006 From: lxmaier at gmail.com (Alex Maier) Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 08:36:31 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: Sorry Guys In-Reply-To: <4510FCA0.9090301@fedoraproject.org> References: <369bce3b0609192111j420fc604ne1d2de17d5b48845@mail.gmail.com> <4510FCA0.9090301@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <7f617d270609200536i49cf6283nf9d3569014700ec0@mail.gmail.com> Karlie, You GO! This is wonderful! Thank you so much for volunteering to help with this. Cheers, a On 9/20/06, Karlie Robinson wrote: > If we can find someone to compile the list of addresses for me, I can > fill the Indian Requests when I fill the rest of the main list. > > I'm just super busy myself with the start of school for my boys (I'm now > trying to fit "Taxi Driver" duties into my day) > > They don't have to be in a spread sheet, but if they could have Name on > the first line and "INDIA" on the very last line (with nothing else, no > spaces punctuation, any postal codes moved to the line above etc) I can > then copy-paste it into my postage software. > > And yes, I'll do them all - I'll just need someone to assist me. > > ~Karlie > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- Alex Maier http://amaier.net From thomas.canniot at laposte.net Wed Sep 20 14:02:26 2006 From: thomas.canniot at laposte.net (Thomas Canniot) Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 16:02:26 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Core in French Magazine Linux + DVD Message-ID: <1158760946.3001.105.camel@MrTomLinux.workstation> Hello, just to inform everybody that i have been asked by the Linux + DVD magazine [1] to write news about Fedora every month. I have already written 2 articles (of 4500 characters) each about FC6 new release and the help provided by the Unity Project to Kadischi team. They will be published in the November and December issues. I hope this can give ideas and motivate other ambassadors to write about Fedora in magazines. You can even earn something ! I also want to add that Linux + DVD ask me if I could find someone to take care about the special issue of Linux + DVD which will be dedicated to FC6. I asked Johan Cwiklinski [2] if he was interested in and he accepted the offer. He is well know among French Ambassadors for the outstanding work made to translate the wiki [3]. Cheers, [1] http://www.lpmagazine.org/ [2] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JohanCwiklinski [3] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ModificationsR%c3%a9centes -- Thomas Canniot http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasCanniot From lxmaier at gmail.com Wed Sep 20 14:14:16 2006 From: lxmaier at gmail.com (Alex Maier) Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 10:14:16 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Core in French Magazine Linux + DVD In-Reply-To: <1158760946.3001.105.camel@MrTomLinux.workstation> References: <1158760946.3001.105.camel@MrTomLinux.workstation> Message-ID: <7f617d270609200714s59ded07ck90c991ee697e909b@mail.gmail.com> This is great work, Thomas! If you are ever in a pinch for a topic to write on, I bet you will find a lot of stuff to write about on fedoranews.org Cheers, a On 9/20/06, Thomas Canniot wrote: > Hello, just to inform everybody that i have been asked by the Linux + > DVD magazine [1] to write news about Fedora every month. > > I have already written 2 articles (of 4500 characters) each about FC6 > new release and the help provided by the Unity Project to Kadischi team. > They will be published in the November and December issues. > > I hope this can give ideas and motivate other ambassadors to write about > Fedora in magazines. You can even earn something ! > > I also want to add that Linux + DVD ask me if I could find someone to > take care about the special issue of Linux + DVD which will be dedicated > to FC6. I asked Johan Cwiklinski [2] if he was interested in and he > accepted the offer. He is well know among French Ambassadors for the > outstanding work made to translate the wiki [3]. > > Cheers, > > > [1] http://www.lpmagazine.org/ > [2] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JohanCwiklinski > [3] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ModificationsR%c3%a9centes > > -- > Thomas Canniot > http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasCanniot > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- Alex Maier http://amaier.net From tchung at fedoraproject.org Thu Sep 21 05:51:07 2006 From: tchung at fedoraproject.org (Thomas Chung) Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 22:51:07 -0700 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: Sorry Guys In-Reply-To: <4510FCA0.9090301@fedoraproject.org> References: <369bce3b0609192111j420fc604ne1d2de17d5b48845@mail.gmail.com> <4510FCA0.9090301@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <369bce3b0609202251h204d13cyf0fd70ec652aa2bb@mail.gmail.com> On 9/20/06, Karlie Robinson wrote: > If we can find someone to compile the list of addresses for me, I can > fill the Indian Requests when I fill the rest of the main list. > > They don't have to be in a spread sheet, but if they could have Name on > the first line and "INDIA" on the very last line (with nothing else, no > spaces punctuation, any postal codes moved to the line above etc) I can > then copy-paste it into my postage software. > > And yes, I'll do them all - I'll just need someone to assist me. > > ~Karlie I just added over 60 requests from India to FreeMedia India Program page[1] and I'm also in the process of recuiting one or two volunteer Ambassadors[2] from India to lead this program. [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution/FreeMedia/India [2] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/CategoryAmbassadorsIndia Regards, -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung From dimitris at michelinakis.gr Thu Sep 21 10:27:43 2006 From: dimitris at michelinakis.gr (Dimitrios 'sehh' Michelinakis) Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 13:27:43 +0300 Subject: [Ambassadors] Raleigh, we have a problem ... In-Reply-To: <450E56E0.8020400@knox.net.nz> References: <1158482347.3694.7.camel@AMILO-GK.homenet.local> <50732.203.173.154.142.1158484926.squirrel@www.knox.net.nz> <450E3583.1050202@fedoraproject.org> <450E4051.6060400@knox.net.nz> <450E464F.30409@fedoraproject.org> <450E5089.3040109@knox.net.nz> <450E55D9.6000508@fedoraproject.org> <450E56E0.8020400@knox.net.nz> Message-ID: <20060921132743.46628471@ekolaptis.> I'd like to add a few things to the discussion. Here in Greece, Fedora is a minor distribution. We've tried to give it more popularity by doing a complete translation (still in progress but most of it is done). Unfortunately, there are some basic limitations in the Fedora "core thinking". 1) audio and video playback (mp3, divx, mpeg, wma, wmv, etc). I know whoever is controlling Fedora is forcing a no-restricted/patented policy. Which is fine by me, maybe i'm one of those anal people who want everything to be free. Unfortunately thats not how the world works and this issue has really made Fedora a no-go for almost everyone here ("What? it doesn't play mp3's? Go to xyz place and download a plugin? Thats ok, i'll install another linux that plays mp3s") 2) i don't know about other linux distros, but when my users compare Fedora with M$ Windows, all they see is a half-done operating system. For the following reasons: a: The boot process is half-text half-graphics. GRUB loads and has a half-assed low quality graphic and when you select your operating system is prints some text about the boot loader (completely nonsense to non-technical users). b: Moving on, they see a bunch of text (kernel and the INIT process) before going to graphical boot. Again they see it as incomplete software or that something is going wrong. c: Once they boot, there are no "guides". People would like to see a document or wizard (maybe bad choice of words here) that explains how to do the basic operations like "Play music/video", "Share your documents", "Create new documents", "Connect to the internet", etc etc. Suggestions: Since there is no chance of adding support for the audio/video formats we need, then at least have a button on the desktop that opens a page that contains a single "ADD EVERYTHING" option that just downloads all the required RPMs (gstreamer, mplayer, etc). Cleaner boot process from GRUB to shutdown. Have a no-text policy. We either have a TEXT boot or a GRAPHICAL boot, not something in between. Ether use a smaller image in GRUB or don't use one at all. The current low quality images make us look bad. When the user first logs into his desktop, display a help page/guide that explains how to do the basic operations. Give a few hinds of the names of the applications. Should i point you to the "Welcome Center" that comes with M$ Vista? or are you going to say that because M$ is doing it then we should shoot our selfs in the foot? PS: now that i took the time to write, one question has been in my mind for some time now: WHY was Helix player added in the core distro? What exactly is the reason for this junk? :) -- Dimitrios Michelinakis From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Thu Sep 21 10:38:13 2006 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul) Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 16:08:13 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Raleigh, we have a problem ... In-Reply-To: <20060921132743.46628471@ekolaptis.> References: <1158482347.3694.7.camel@AMILO-GK.homenet.local> <50732.203.173.154.142.1158484926.squirrel@www.knox.net.nz> <450E3583.1050202@fedoraproject.org> <450E4051.6060400@knox.net.nz> <450E464F.30409@fedoraproject.org> <450E5089.3040109@knox.net.nz> <450E55D9.6000508@fedoraproject.org> <450E56E0.8020400@knox.net.nz> <20060921132743.46628471@ekolaptis.> Message-ID: <45126B95.60209@fedoraproject.org> Dimitrios 'sehh' Michelinakis wrote: > Suggestions: > > > Since there is no chance of adding support for the audio/video formats we need, then at least have a button on the desktop that opens a page that contains a single "ADD EVERYTHING" option that just downloads all the required RPMs (gstreamer, mplayer, etc). This is a suggestion given often which is not going to be implemented because in many cases it amounts to contributory infringement. > > Cleaner boot process from GRUB to shutdown. Have a no-text policy. We either have a TEXT boot or a GRAPHICAL boot, not something in between. Ether use a smaller image in GRUB or don't use one at all. The current low quality images make us look bad. GRUB is limited to 16 colors. Without fancy pants frame buffers or a variation of bootsplash we are limited in what we can do with the boot loader. Many older systems dont work well variations of bootsplash but we still need to investigate this option further. > > When the user first logs into his desktop, display a help page/guide that explains how to do the basic operations. Give a few hinds of the names of the applications. Should i point you to the "Welcome Center" that comes with M$ Vista? or are you going to say that because M$ is doing it then we should shoot our selfs in the foot? Feel free to implement a welcome center. It would be most "welcome" ;-) Meanwhile we are in the midst of designing a better default page to help end users Refer to http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject/FirefoxDefaultSplash for more information. > > PS: > now that i took the time to write, one question has been in my mind for some time now: WHY was Helix player added in the core distro? What exactly is the reason for this junk? :) It has been dropped in FC6 FYI Rahul From konstantin.burtsev at fedoraproject.org Thu Sep 21 10:40:49 2006 From: konstantin.burtsev at fedoraproject.org (Konstantin Burtsev) Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 13:40:49 +0300 Subject: [Ambassadors] Raleigh, we have a problem ... In-Reply-To: <20060921132743.46628471@ekolaptis.> References: <1158482347.3694.7.camel@AMILO-GK.homenet.local> <50732.203.173.154.142.1158484926.squirrel@www.knox.net.nz> <450E3583.1050202@fedoraproject.org> <450E4051.6060400@knox.net.nz> <450E464F.30409@fedoraproject.org> <450E5089.3040109@knox.net.nz> <450E55D9.6000508@fedoraproject.org> <450E56E0.8020400@knox.net.nz> <20060921132743.46628471@ekolaptis.> Message-ID: <71d21e830609210340j7fcc9cb1o5bc1e0e054efc3c@mail.gmail.com> I agree with you in question about guide. Yes, not every man can install linux, but if you will install it for him you should educate him. But why he can`t educate by himself ? It`s a good way to make similar thing that in MS Windows to include graphical help in national language. It will be good for dummies. On 9/21/06, Dimitrios 'sehh' Michelinakis wrote: > I'd like to add a few things to the discussion. > > Here in Greece, Fedora is a minor distribution. We've tried to give it more popularity by doing a complete translation (still in progress but most of it is done). > > Unfortunately, there are some basic limitations in the Fedora "core thinking". > > 1) audio and video playback (mp3, divx, mpeg, wma, wmv, etc). I know whoever is controlling Fedora is forcing a no-restricted/patented policy. Which is fine by me, maybe i'm one of those anal people who want everything to be free. Unfortunately thats not how the world works and this issue has really made Fedora a no-go for almost everyone here ("What? it doesn't play mp3's? Go to xyz place and download a plugin? Thats ok, i'll install another linux that plays mp3s") > > 2) i don't know about other linux distros, but when my users compare Fedora with M$ Windows, all they see is a half-done operating system. For the following reasons: > > a: The boot process is half-text half-graphics. GRUB loads and has a half-assed low quality graphic and when you select your operating system is prints some text about the boot loader (completely nonsense to non-technical users). > > b: Moving on, they see a bunch of text (kernel and the INIT process) before going to graphical boot. Again they see it as incomplete software or that something is going wrong. > > c: Once they boot, there are no "guides". People would like to see a document or wizard (maybe bad choice of words here) that explains how to do the basic operations like "Play music/video", "Share your documents", "Create new documents", "Connect to the internet", etc etc. > > > Suggestions: > > > Since there is no chance of adding support for the audio/video formats we need, then at least have a button on the desktop that opens a page that contains a single "ADD EVERYTHING" option that just downloads all the required RPMs (gstreamer, mplayer, etc). > > Cleaner boot process from GRUB to shutdown. Have a no-text policy. We either have a TEXT boot or a GRAPHICAL boot, not something in between. Ether use a smaller image in GRUB or don't use one at all. The current low quality images make us look bad. > > When the user first logs into his desktop, display a help page/guide that explains how to do the basic operations. Give a few hinds of the names of the applications. Should i point you to the "Welcome Center" that comes with M$ Vista? or are you going to say that because M$ is doing it then we should shoot our selfs in the foot? > > > PS: > now that i took the time to write, one question has been in my mind for some time now: WHY was Helix player added in the core distro? What exactly is the reason for this junk? :) > > > -- > Dimitrios Michelinakis > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- Best regards, Konstantin Burtsev _______________________ Mobile: +375-29-342-42-01 Mail: poligraph at gmail.com From konstantin.burtsev at fedoraproject.org Thu Sep 21 10:51:18 2006 From: konstantin.burtsev at fedoraproject.org (Konstantin Burtsev) Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 13:51:18 +0300 Subject: [Ambassadors] Raleigh, we have a problem ... In-Reply-To: <45126B95.60209@fedoraproject.org> References: <1158482347.3694.7.camel@AMILO-GK.homenet.local> <50732.203.173.154.142.1158484926.squirrel@www.knox.net.nz> <450E3583.1050202@fedoraproject.org> <450E4051.6060400@knox.net.nz> <450E464F.30409@fedoraproject.org> <450E5089.3040109@knox.net.nz> <450E55D9.6000508@fedoraproject.org> <450E56E0.8020400@knox.net.nz> <20060921132743.46628471@ekolaptis.> <45126B95.60209@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <71d21e830609210351g14f5549dhf5c155c30524ee10@mail.gmail.com> On 9/21/06, Rahul wrote: > Dimitrios 'sehh' Michelinakis wrote: > > > > > When the user first logs into his desktop, display a help page/guide that explains how to do the basic operations. Give a few hinds of the names of the applications. Should i point you to the "Welcome Center" that comes with M$ Vista? or are you going to say that because M$ is doing it then we should shoot our selfs in the foot? > > Feel free to implement a welcome center. It would be most "welcome" ;-) > Meanwhile we are in the midst of designing a better default page to help > end users > > Refer to http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject/FirefoxDefaultSplash > for more information. But it need internet connection. Not in all countries all people have permanent internet connection(like adsl) or for example have VPN connection, but pptp-client is inside extras which are in internet :(. I think "Getting Started " should be mostly on local disk. (and maybe it will be a package, which can be update via yum?) -- Best regards, Konstantin Burtsev _______________________ Mobile: +375-29-342-42-01 Mail: konstantin.burtsev at fedoraproject.org From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Thu Sep 21 10:58:19 2006 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul) Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 16:28:19 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Raleigh, we have a problem ... In-Reply-To: <71d21e830609210351g14f5549dhf5c155c30524ee10@mail.gmail.com> References: <1158482347.3694.7.camel@AMILO-GK.homenet.local> <50732.203.173.154.142.1158484926.squirrel@www.knox.net.nz> <450E3583.1050202@fedoraproject.org> <450E4051.6060400@knox.net.nz> <450E464F.30409@fedoraproject.org> <450E5089.3040109@knox.net.nz> <450E55D9.6000508@fedoraproject.org> <450E56E0.8020400@knox.net.nz> <20060921132743.46628471@ekolaptis.> <45126B95.60209@fedoraproject.org> <71d21e830609210351g14f5549dhf5c155c30524ee10@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4512704B.2030100@fedoraproject.org> Konstantin Burtsev wrote: > On 9/21/06, Rahul wrote: >> Dimitrios 'sehh' Michelinakis wrote: >> >> > >> > When the user first logs into his desktop, display a help page/guide >> that explains how to do the basic operations. Give a few hinds of the >> names of the applications. Should i point you to the "Welcome Center" >> that comes with M$ Vista? or are you going to say that because M$ is >> doing it then we should shoot our selfs in the foot? >> >> Feel free to implement a welcome center. It would be most "welcome" ;-) >> Meanwhile we are in the midst of designing a better default page to help >> end users >> >> Refer to http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject/FirefoxDefaultSplash >> for more information. > > > But it need internet connection. Not in all countries all people have > permanent internet connection(like adsl) or for example have VPN > connection, but pptp-client is inside extras which are in internet :(. Extras is planned to be provided in media too. > I think "Getting Started " should be mostly on local disk. (and maybe > it will be a package, which can be update via yum?) Yes. We do intend to provide offline copies of the documentation. It is also packaged as RPM and can be updated post release using yum. Rahul From stickster at gmail.com Thu Sep 21 12:14:26 2006 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 08:14:26 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] Raleigh, we have a problem ... In-Reply-To: <4512704B.2030100@fedoraproject.org> References: <1158482347.3694.7.camel@AMILO-GK.homenet.local> <50732.203.173.154.142.1158484926.squirrel@www.knox.net.nz> <450E3583.1050202@fedoraproject.org> <450E4051.6060400@knox.net.nz> <450E464F.30409@fedoraproject.org> <450E5089.3040109@knox.net.nz> <450E55D9.6000508@fedoraproject.org> <450E56E0.8020400@knox.net.nz> <20060921132743.46628471@ekolaptis.> <45126B95.60209@fedoraproject.org> <71d21e830609210351g14f5549dhf5c155c30524ee10@mail.gmail.com> <4512704B.2030100@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <1158840866.15768.83.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Thu, 2006-09-21 at 16:28 +0530, Rahul wrote: > Konstantin Burtsev wrote: > > I think "Getting Started " should be mostly on local disk. 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URL: From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Thu Sep 21 13:17:18 2006 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul) Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 18:47:18 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Join Planet Fedora Message-ID: <451290DE.8080707@fedoraproject.org> Hi Make sure your voices and ramblings are heard! http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Planet Rahul From samfw at redhat.com Thu Sep 21 15:46:44 2006 From: samfw at redhat.com (Sam Folk-Williams) Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 11:46:44 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] self-introduction: samfw Message-ID: <1158853604.14144.57.camel@samfw.rdu.redhat.com> Hi, I've been hanging around the docs project for the past six months or so, so I already know several folks on this list. I wanted to send a note saying that I signed up to be an ambassador. In addition to contributing to the docs project I do simple things, like encourage (and help) friends and relatives to use fedora and open source software, blog about Fedora (how to's, updates, etc) and hand out DVDs wherever I go. As my email indicates, I work for Red Hat. I do technical support here. I might be slow getting started but I'd love to hear about what other folks are doing and I'm open to any ideas. I will be reviewing the meeting minutes shortly.... Thanks, Sam From tchung at fedoraproject.org Thu Sep 21 17:48:53 2006 From: tchung at fedoraproject.org (Thomas Chung) Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 10:48:53 -0700 Subject: [Ambassadors] self-introduction: samfw In-Reply-To: <1158853604.14144.57.camel@samfw.rdu.redhat.com> References: <1158853604.14144.57.camel@samfw.rdu.redhat.com> Message-ID: <369bce3b0609211048p7127ef16yce40a27161121f85@mail.gmail.com> On 9/21/06, Sam Folk-Williams wrote: > Hi, > > I've been hanging around the docs project for the past six months or so, > so I already know several folks on this list. I wanted to send a note > saying that I signed up to be an ambassador. > > In addition to contributing to the docs project I do simple things, like > encourage (and help) friends and relatives to use fedora and open source > software, blog about Fedora (how to's, updates, etc) and hand out DVDs > wherever I go. > > As my email indicates, I work for Red Hat. I do technical support here. > > I might be slow getting started but I'd love to hear about what other > folks are doing and I'm open to any ideas. I will be reviewing the > meeting minutes shortly.... > > Thanks, > Sam Welcome to Fedora Ambassadors Project, Sam! Regards, -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung From jwulf at redhat.com Fri Sep 22 00:31:55 2006 From: jwulf at redhat.com (Joshua Wulf) Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 10:31:55 +1000 Subject: [Ambassadors] Raleigh, we have a problem ... In-Reply-To: <20060921132743.46628471@ekolaptis.> References: <1158482347.3694.7.camel@AMILO-GK.homenet.local> <50732.203.173.154.142.1158484926.squirrel@www.knox.net.nz> <450E3583.1050202@fedoraproject.org> <450E4051.6060400@knox.net.nz> <450E464F.30409@fedoraproject.org> <450E5089.3040109@knox.net.nz> <450E55D9.6000508@fedoraproject.org> <450E56E0.8020400@knox.net.nz> <20060921132743.46628471@ekolaptis.> Message-ID: <45132EFB.9000604@redhat.com> Thanks for the observations Dimitrios. Dimitrios 'sehh' Michelinakis wrote: > 1) audio and video playback (mp3, divx, mpeg, wma, wmv, etc). I know whoever is controlling Fedora is forcing a no-restricted/patented policy. Which is fine by me, maybe i'm one of those anal people who want everything to be free. Unfortunately thats not how the world works and this issue has really made Fedora a no-go for almost everyone here ("What? it doesn't play mp3's? Go to xyz place and download a plugin? Thats ok, i'll install another linux that plays mp3s") > It depends on what we see as the mission of Fedora. If the mission is *just* to get as many people as possible to use it, then we should just all go and join Microsoft, because they already have lots of people. Fedora is about freedom. Since the mission is to get people to use free, as in libre, software then we need to make sure that it *is* free software. Educating people about why we need to use unencumbered software and formats is an important part of that. If Richard Stallman hadn't "gone cold turkey" on proprietary software and formats, arguably we wouldn't have Fedora today. We're not going to sell out the revolution now, because if we do in another five years we'll have lost everything - and if we're going to do that then we might as well save ourselves the time and trouble and go join (insert proprietary OS vendor here) right now. So we have to balance our desire to spread the adoption of Fedora / Linux / Open Source with the necessity of maintaining the purity of principles that make it distinct from proprietary offerings, and resist the temptation to take the "easy path". > 2) i don't know about other linux distros, but when my users compare Fedora with M$ Windows, all they see is a half-done operating system. For the following reasons: > It depends who the target is. Right now Fedora is aimed at technical enthusiasts, not the average home user (grandman / non-tech person). Ubuntu is aimed squarely at this market. > a: The boot process is half-text half-graphics. GRUB loads and has a half-assed low quality graphic and when you select your operating system is prints some text about the boot loader (completely nonsense to non-technical users). > > Ubuntu's boot is really nice, and we could learn something from them - if that's the direction that are headed in. Otherwise, if we're sticking to our hardcore tech roots, then "having the case off the computer" is ok. > b: Moving on, they see a bunch of text (kernel and the INIT process) before going to graphical boot. Again they see it as incomplete software or that something is going wrong. > That's because they're not technical enthusiasts. > c: Once they boot, there are no "guides". People would like to see a document or wizard (maybe bad choice of words here) that explains how to do the basic operations like "Play music/video", "Share your documents", "Create new documents", "Connect to the internet", etc etc. > The work in progress that Rahul pointed out looks good. I'm going to see if I can spare some cycles to contribute to this. --josh From lxmaier at gmail.com Fri Sep 22 00:40:20 2006 From: lxmaier at gmail.com (Alex Maier) Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 20:40:20 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] Sorry for missing today's meeting Message-ID: <7f617d270609211740s426eab2by7bfc5b2e3eea731a@mail.gmail.com> My car broke down on the way home, from where I was going to attend the meeting, and it had to be towed, and I was stuck on the roadside and was dealing with all sorts of stuff... I don't have to tell you that I would have preferred to be in the meeting with you--but I guess it wasn't my choice tonight. Thanks, Alex From nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net Fri Sep 22 08:17:53 2006 From: nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net (Nicolas Mailhot) Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 10:17:53 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Ambassadors] Raleigh, we have a problem ... In-Reply-To: <45132EFB.9000604@redhat.com> References: <1158482347.3694.7.camel@AMILO-GK.homenet.local> <50732.203.173.154.142.1158484926.squirrel@www.knox.net.nz> <450E3583.1050202@fedoraproject.org> <450E4051.6060400@knox.net.nz> <450E464F.30409@fedoraproject.org> <450E5089.3040109@knox.net.nz> <450E55D9.6000508@fedoraproject.org> <450E56E0.8020400@knox.net.nz> <20060921132743.46628471@ekolaptis.> <45132EFB.9000604@redhat.com> Message-ID: <60299.192.54.193.51.1158913073.squirrel@rousalka.dyndns.org> Le Ven 22 septembre 2006 02:31, Joshua Wulf a ?crit : > Thanks for the observations Dimitrios. >> a: The boot process is half-text half-graphics. GRUB loads and has a >> half-assed low quality graphic and when you select your operating system >> is prints some text about the boot loader (completely nonsense to >> non-technical users). IMHO the bigest sin of GRUB is to colorize the whole screen, instead of recognizing like windows XP that vga graphics is not that great nowadays and white on black text with a small deroured colour logo is more professional nowadays >> b: Moving on, they see a bunch of text (kernel and the INIT process) >> before going to graphical boot. Again they see it as incomplete software >> or that something is going wrong. >> > That's because they're not technical enthusiasts. That's because we've just inflicted them a complete colour page, and broke the black-and-white bios text stuff continuity (also the green/red OK do not help). Regards, -- Nicolas Mailhot From thomas.canniot at laposte.net Fri Sep 22 08:53:04 2006 From: thomas.canniot at laposte.net (Thomas Canniot) Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 10:53:04 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Sorry for missing today's meeting In-Reply-To: <7f617d270609211740s426eab2by7bfc5b2e3eea731a@mail.gmail.com> References: <7f617d270609211740s426eab2by7bfc5b2e3eea731a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1158915184.2798.39.camel@MrTomLinux.workstation> Le jeudi 21 septembre 2006 ? 20:40 -0400, Alex Maier a ?crit : > My car broke down on the way home, from where I was going to attend > the meeting, and it had to be towed, and I was stuck on the roadside > and was dealing with all sorts of stuff... > > I don't have to tell you that I would have preferred to be in the > meeting with you--but I guess it wasn't my choice tonight. > > Thanks, > Alex > Hope everything is back to normal now ! We took the opportunity to talk about the ambassador programm in general and share ideas and points of view. -- Thomas Canniot http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasCanniot From chitlesh at fedoraproject.org Fri Sep 22 15:56:19 2006 From: chitlesh at fedoraproject.org (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 17:56:19 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Strasbourg: 3 events in a row and Install Parties Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0609220856s263685c4ofb266c6f8206fe61@mail.gmail.com> Hello there, Just to keep you guys in formed of what is happening here in Alsace! http://strasbourg.linuxfr.org/actu (choose october) In october: - 6 to 8 Salon des Associations This is an annual event in Strasbourg where all non profit legal entities in Strasbourg comes and advertise their own entity in front of the public (15000 people expected). This is not a Fedora specific event but I'll be present during this event with lug members at the same booth. Like any other lug members, we will be advertising the LUG (prime objective) and what LUG members are working on (e.g. me for fedora project) Burned Fedora ISOs will be distributed for free at the booth, if asked. - 13 to 15 : Science Day This is not a Fedora Specific event but I'll be present during this event with lug members at the same booth. We (lug members) will be talking about educational linux software. I'd proposed to simulate a RC Circuit and it has be approuved by LUG members: My OOo document for participants at the booth in french: http:/chitlesh.funpic.de/fdls/fdls.odp http:/chitlesh.funpic.de/fdls/xcircuit.tar.bz2 In english: http://clunixchit.blogspot.com/2006/09/fedora-example-xcircuit-and-ngspice.html The tools which I tend to use are xcircuit, gresistor and ngspice. I've worked and packaged these scientific software in FE for this event. Thanks to my reviewer Mamuro, who did fairly a great job:) There are lots of similar scientific software and lots of methods to create/simulate a RC circuit. But since my LUG members are not all in the electronic field and our public varies between 4 to 18 years old with the teachers, I chose something rather simple. My lug members agreed to support me on this RC simulation and others will be demonstrating : gcompris genchemlad kgeographic kalzium all already in FE. Burned Fedora ISOs will be distributed for free at the booth, if asked. - 28 October - Open Source Day. - (La rentr?e du libre) http://tux.u-strasbg.fr/rdl2006/accueil Finally the most attended event which was postponed thrice this year will be held on only one day instead of 3 consecutive days. (due to lack of sponsors). Yes, fedora will have a .org booth and with some fedora posters of LinuxTag2006 (given by Gerold and Floriant). We are expecting 1200 people that day. I've just ordered 150 DVDs an 30 tshirts. If needed, Ill burn ISOs at the booth for free. Till now, I'm alone at the booth, if any german ambassadors want to join me, they are welcomed. However I know other french ambassadors and DamienDurand will be busy with their own event that day. Sorry guys I can't be at both places at the same time Install Parties in Strasbourg, Back from holidays, the LUG members of Strasbourg are continuing their monthly install parties :) This month it will be this Wednesday 27 October as from 18h00 local time. http://tux.u-strasbg.fr/install-party/mensuelles ISOs will be burned at the cost of a virgin CD/DVD as decided by our LUG. That's it for now, If you are crossing Strasbourg during October, do ping me :) Chitlesh Goorah -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com From david at projetofedora.org Fri Sep 22 18:45:09 2006 From: david at projetofedora.org (David Barzilay) Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 13:45:09 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Strasbourg: 3 events in a row and Install Parties Message-ID: These are awesome, Chitlesh! Lets rock Strasbourg! Good luck, -- Dave Barzilay > Hello there, > > Just to keep you guys in formed of what is happening here in Alsace! > > http://strasbourg.linuxfr.org/actu (choose october) > > In october: > > - 6 to 8 Salon des Associations > > This is an annual event in Strasbourg where all non profit legal > entities in Strasbourg comes and advertise their own entity in front > of the public (15000 people expected). This is not a Fedora specific > event but I'll be present during this event with lug members at the > same booth. Like any other lug members, we will be advertising the LUG > (prime objective) and what LUG members are working on (e.g. me for > fedora project) > > Burned Fedora ISOs will be distributed for free at the booth, if asked. > > - 13 to 15 : Science Day > > This is not a Fedora Specific event but I'll be present during this > event with lug members at the same booth. We (lug members) will be > talking about educational linux software. > > I'd proposed to simulate a RC Circuit and it has be approuved by LUG members: > > My OOo document for participants at the booth in french: > http:/chitlesh.funpic.de/fdls/fdls.odp > http:/chitlesh.funpic.de/fdls/xcircuit.tar.bz2 > > In english: > http://clunixchit.blogspot.com/2006/09/fedora-example-xcircuit-and-ngspice.html > > The tools which I tend to use are xcircuit, gresistor and ngspice. > > I've worked and packaged these scientific software in FE for this > event. Thanks to my reviewer Mamuro, who did fairly a great job:) > > There are lots of similar scientific software and lots of methods to > create/simulate a RC circuit. But since my LUG members are not all in > the electronic field and our public varies between 4 to 18 years old > with the teachers, I chose something rather simple. > > My lug members agreed to support me on this RC simulation and others > will be demonstrating : > > gcompris > genchemlad > kgeographic > kalzium > > all already in FE. > > Burned Fedora ISOs will be distributed for free at the booth, if asked. > > - 28 October - Open Source Day. - (La rentr?e du libre) > > http://tux.u-strasbg.fr/rdl2006/accueil > > Finally the most attended event which was postponed thrice this year > will be held on only one day instead of 3 consecutive days. (due to > lack of sponsors). > > Yes, fedora will have a .org booth and with some fedora posters of > LinuxTag2006 (given by Gerold and Floriant). We are expecting 1200 > people that day. I've just ordered 150 DVDs an 30 tshirts. If needed, > Ill burn ISOs at the booth for free. Till now, I'm alone at the booth, > if any german ambassadors want to join me, they are welcomed. However > I know other french ambassadors and DamienDurand will be busy with > their own event that day. Sorry guys I can't be at both places at the > same time > > > Install Parties in Strasbourg, > Back from holidays, the LUG members of Strasbourg are continuing their > monthly install parties :) This month it will be this Wednesday 27 > October as from 18h00 local time. > > http://tux.u-strasbg.fr/install-party/mensuelles > > ISOs will be burned at the cost of a virgin CD/DVD as decided by our LUG. > > > That's it for now, > If you are crossing Strasbourg during October, do ping me :) > > Chitlesh Goorah > -- > http://clunixchit.blogspot.com From chitlesh at fedoraproject.org Fri Sep 22 22:53:48 2006 From: chitlesh at fedoraproject.org (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 00:53:48 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Strasbourg: 3 events in a row and Install Parties In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0609221553o578aee3t6087c5cf59bb13f0@mail.gmail.com> On 9/22/06, David Barzilay wrote: > These are awesome, Chitlesh! > > Lets rock Strasbourg! > > Good luck, Thanks David, The question here lies whether my first 2 event can be listed in FedoraEvents or not. It's not fedora specific. I won't talk about fedora but about the LUG and its activities. But if ppl want me to talk about fedora, I'll be happy to talk about. Chitlesh -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Sat Sep 23 13:11:37 2006 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul) Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 18:41:37 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Strasbourg: 3 events in a row and Install Parties In-Reply-To: <13dbfe4f0609221553o578aee3t6087c5cf59bb13f0@mail.gmail.com> References: <13dbfe4f0609221553o578aee3t6087c5cf59bb13f0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <45153289.9090001@fedoraproject.org> Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: > On 9/22/06, David Barzilay wrote: >> These are awesome, Chitlesh! >> >> Lets rock Strasbourg! >> >> Good luck, > > Thanks David, > > The question here lies whether my first 2 event can be listed in > FedoraEvents or not. > > It's not fedora specific. > > I won't talk about fedora but about the LUG and its activities. > But if ppl want me to talk about fedora, I'll be happy to talk about. > If you decide you dont want to talk about Fedora there, it shouldnt be listed in Fedora events. Rahul From chitlesh at fedoraproject.org Sat Sep 23 13:23:50 2006 From: chitlesh at fedoraproject.org (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 15:23:50 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Strasbourg: 3 events in a row and Install Parties In-Reply-To: <45153289.9090001@fedoraproject.org> References: <13dbfe4f0609221553o578aee3t6087c5cf59bb13f0@mail.gmail.com> <45153289.9090001@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0609230623q5ca00fd2n9dcfc7bf5c05409f@mail.gmail.com> On 9/23/06, Rahul wrote: > If you decide you dont want to talk about Fedora there, it shouldnt be > listed in Fedora events. It's not that I don't _want_ to talk. I'll talk if needed and perhaps I'll be force to talk since we'll be burning fedora ISOs at the booth. Quite complicating. Is there a list/table to "inform" people that fedora ambassadors - will be present at some event - will not talk about fedora only, but linux in general - will welcome any discussion fedora oriented Chitlesh. -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com From mcgiwer at fedoraproject.org Sat Sep 23 13:46:24 2006 From: mcgiwer at fedoraproject.org (Pawel Sadowski) Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 15:46:24 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Open Source in school presentation In-Reply-To: <44FC6A47.1030802@fedoraproject.org> References: <1157390870.5669.24.camel@redhat> <44FC64E9.30504@fedoraproject.org> <1157391879.5669.30.camel@redhat> <44FC6A47.1030802@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <1159019184.5057.3.camel@redhat> Hi all, The conference has been postponed until March 2007. In the mail from organizers, the reason was beginning of the school and academic year, and the incoming municipal elections. However, I have answered I will be there :) Regards, Pawel From chitlesh at fedoraproject.org Sat Sep 23 20:02:35 2006 From: chitlesh at fedoraproject.org (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 22:02:35 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Join Planet Fedora In-Reply-To: <451290DE.8080707@fedoraproject.org> References: <451290DE.8080707@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0609231302t1673988bx759c38cc8d81a7f3@mail.gmail.com> On 9/21/06, Rahul wrote: > Hi > > Make sure your voices and ramblings are heard! Talking advantage of this thread to remind newly recruited ambassadors of http://www.frappr.com/fedoraambassadors This is not a must, but it would be great to know who is where :) Chitlesh -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com From chitlesh at fedoraproject.org Sat Sep 23 20:04:14 2006 From: chitlesh at fedoraproject.org (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 22:04:14 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Ambassadors Recognition Awards, round 2 In-Reply-To: <450546F8.1020606@fedoraproject.org> References: <7f617d270608310906p4bee5c2ekcab0bc095c0aa56d@mail.gmail.com> <4505408E.7000006@fedoraproject.org> <1157987004.2944.0.camel@dragon.gja.in> <450546F8.1020606@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0609231304p783d48a7u612e8f3ffbda7eb3@mail.gmail.com> On 9/11/06, Karlie Robinson wrote: > I don't want to spoil it for those who may get shipments after me. I'm > in Rochester, NY and stuff coming from North Carolina usually reaches me > in the first wave. I've received mine today :) When would be time to post the pictures :) ? Chitlesh -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com From lxmaier at gmail.com Sat Sep 23 20:18:04 2006 From: lxmaier at gmail.com (Alex Maier) Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 16:18:04 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Ambassadors Recognition Awards, round 2 In-Reply-To: <13dbfe4f0609231304p783d48a7u612e8f3ffbda7eb3@mail.gmail.com> References: <7f617d270608310906p4bee5c2ekcab0bc095c0aa56d@mail.gmail.com> <4505408E.7000006@fedoraproject.org> <1157987004.2944.0.camel@dragon.gja.in> <450546F8.1020606@fedoraproject.org> <13dbfe4f0609231304p783d48a7u612e8f3ffbda7eb3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <7f617d270609231318i25eab828vdbb169fe41f69b59@mail.gmail.com> I hope everyone has received and is enjoying their gifts by now. Cheers, a On 9/23/06, Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: > On 9/11/06, Karlie Robinson wrote: > > I don't want to spoil it for those who may get shipments after me. I'm > > in Rochester, NY and stuff coming from North Carolina usually reaches me > > in the first wave. > > > I've received mine today :) > When would be time to post the pictures :) ? > > Chitlesh > -- > http://clunixchit.blogspot.com > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- Alex Maier http://amaier.net From gerold at lugd.org Sat Sep 23 20:27:21 2006 From: gerold at lugd.org (Gerold Kassube) Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 22:27:21 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Ambassadors Recognition Awards, round 2 In-Reply-To: <7f617d270609231318i25eab828vdbb169fe41f69b59@mail.gmail.com> References: <7f617d270608310906p4bee5c2ekcab0bc095c0aa56d@mail.gmail.com> <4505408E.7000006@fedoraproject.org> <1157987004.2944.0.camel@dragon.gja.in> <450546F8.1020606@fedoraproject.org> <13dbfe4f0609231304p783d48a7u612e8f3ffbda7eb3@mail.gmail.com> <7f617d270609231318i25eab828vdbb169fe41f69b59@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1159043241.2980.5.camel@AMILO-GK.homenet.local> of course, I have .... ... if it is correct that it should be "Fedora Flip-Flops" .... This is the Recognition Award? Regards Gerold Am Samstag, den 23.09.2006, 16:18 -0400 schrieb Alex Maier: > I hope everyone has received and is enjoying their gifts by now. > > Cheers, > a > > On 9/23/06, Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: > > On 9/11/06, Karlie Robinson wrote: > > > I don't want to spoil it for those who may get shipments after me. I'm > > > in Rochester, NY and stuff coming from North Carolina usually reaches me > > > in the first wave. > > > > > > I've received mine today :) > > When would be time to post the pictures :) ? > > > > Chitlesh > > -- > > http://clunixchit.blogspot.com > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Es por ello que recurro a la lista, para solicitar ayuda en cuanto a los materiales de merchandesing que pueda ofrecer para el evento. Cuanto con un equipo que puede encargarse de esta loable labor. Esperamos que puedan ayudarnos. Muchas gracias por la ayuda que puedan brindarnos. Saludos, ---Hernan Embajador Peru [1] - Peru Open Source Day - http://usmp-lug.usmp.edu.pe/linux/?page_id=31 English Version Dear friends. Recently, I have added the group of ambassadors of "Fedora Project", like ambassador of PERU. The 21 of October will be made in Lima. - Peru, a very great event in which many distributions of Linux will be present, demonstrating its operativity live. Between the distributions that are in the list they find: - OpenSUSE - Peru - Debian - Peru - Mandrake - Peru - Ubuntu - Peru Each one of which they will show the public who attends the event kindness of each distribution besides to flatter t-shirt, Dvds, key rings among other materials of merchandesing. It is for that reason that I resort to the list, to ask for aid as far as the materials of merchandesing that can offer for the event. Whatever with an equipment that can be in charge of this praiseworthy work. We hoped that they can help us. Thank you very much by the aid that can offer us. Greetings, ---Hernan Peru ambassador [1] - Peru Open Source Day - http://usmp-lug.usmp.edu.pe/linux/?page_id=31 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From santosh at fedoraproject.org Sun Sep 24 23:30:49 2006 From: santosh at fedoraproject.org (Santosh Kumar) Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 05:00:49 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Core 6 Schedule Message-ID: Hi everyone!! I was reading out the reviews about Fedora Core 6.. and this question suddenly popped up in my mind.... Are we running exactly as per our preliminary FC6 Release Schedule??? Would FC6 be available as a Final distro on 11th October??? 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From linux at elfshadow.net Mon Sep 25 00:54:50 2006 From: linux at elfshadow.net (Jeffrey Tadlock) Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2006 20:54:50 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Core 6 Schedule In-Reply-To: <451724EE.2020606@redhat.com> References: <200609241941.41918.jkeating@redhat.com> <451724EE.2020606@redhat.com> Message-ID: <451728DA.8010609@elfshadow.net> Joshua Wulf wrote: >> Jesse Keating wrote: >> >> Subscribe to http://fedoraproject.org/Core/Schedule >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > The requested URL /Core/Schedule was not found on this server. The URL should have been: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Core/Schedule Jesse just dropped the wiki part. --Jeffrey From chitlesh at fedoraproject.org Mon Sep 25 08:06:05 2006 From: chitlesh at fedoraproject.org (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 10:06:05 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Ambassadors Recognition Awards, round 2 In-Reply-To: <1157220493.2181.5.camel@dragon.gja.in> References: <7f617d270608310906p4bee5c2ekcab0bc095c0aa56d@mail.gmail.com> <1157220493.2181.5.camel@dragon.gja.in> Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0609250106r6e413e4bo4c48a4d163e4febf@mail.gmail.com> On 9/2/06, Tejas Dinkar wrote: > Congrats to all :) > > Enjoy your prize, and don't forget. > > WE WANT PHOTOS!!! Tejas, I've uploaded it for you: http://clunixchit.blogspot.com/2006/09/fedora-ambassadors-recognition-awards.html#links Chitlesh -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Mon Sep 25 08:15:11 2006 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul) Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 13:45:11 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Core 6 Schedule In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4517900F.7080609@fedoraproject.org> Santosh Kumar wrote: > Hi everyone!! > I was reading out the reviews about Fedora Core 6.. and this question > suddenly popped up in my mind.... Are we running exactly as per our > preliminary FC6 Release Schedule??? Would FC6 be available as a Final > distro on 11th October??? > When the development freeze happens, the results of the testing being done would determine whether we ship the release according to the schedule or delay it further to fix bugs. In the last board meeting (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Board), the expectation is that we would be on time but there is no way to predict that in advance. The schedule is just a way to set to milestones. This applies for every release. Rahul From guillermo.gomez at gmail.com Mon Sep 25 14:03:27 2006 From: guillermo.gomez at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Guillermo_G=F3mez_S=2E=22?=) Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 10:03:27 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] Help PERU In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4517E1AF.8030207@gmail.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hernan Pachas wrote: > Estimados amigos. > > Recientemente, me he adicionado al grupo de embajadores de "Fedora > Project", como embajador de PERU. > > El 21 de Octubre se realizar? en Lima.-Per? , un evento[1] muy > grande en el cu?l muchas distribuciones de Linux estar?n presentes, > demostrando su operatividad en vivo. Entre las distribuciones que se > encuentran en la lista se encuentran: > - OpenSUSE > - Debian > - Mandrake > - Ubuntu. > > Cada una de las cuales mostrar?n al p?blico que asista al evento las > bondades de cada distribuci?n ademas de obsequiar Polos, Dvds, > llaveros entre otros materiales de merchandesing. > > Es por ello que recurro a la lista, para solicitar ayuda en cuanto a > los materiales de merchandesing que pueda ofrecer para el evento. > > Cuanto con un equipo que puede encargarse de esta loable labor. > > Esperamos que puedan ayudarnos. > > Muchas gracias por la ayuda que puedan brindarnos. > > Saludos, > > ---Hernan > Embajador Peru > > [1] - Peru Open Source Day - > http://usmp-lug.usmp.edu.pe/linux/?page_id=31 > > English Version > > Dear friends. > > Recently, I have added the group of ambassadors of "Fedora Project", > like ambassador of PERU. > > The 21 of October will be made in Lima. - Peru, a very great event > in which many distributions of Linux will be present, demonstrating > its operativity live. Between the distributions that are in the list > they find: > - OpenSUSE - Peru > - Debian - Peru > - Mandrake - Peru > - Ubuntu - Peru > > Each one of which they will show the public who attends the event > kindness of each distribution besides to flatter t-shirt, Dvds, key > rings among other materials of merchandesing. > > It is for that reason that I resort to the list, to ask for aid as > far as the materials of merchandesing that can offer for the event. > > Whatever with an equipment that can be in charge of this > praiseworthy work. > > We hoped that they can help us. > > Thank you very much by the aid that can offer us. > > Greetings, > ---Hernan > > Peru ambassador > [1] - Peru Open Source Day - > http://usmp-lug.usmp.edu.pe/linux/?page_id=31 > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list Hola Hernan This list is mainly an english one. I've trying to setup an spanish community of ambassadors. Pls contact me if interested. Then we might have a spanish ambassadors email list. Anyone, again, if interested pls speak up. kr Guillermo - -- Gomix Guillermo G?mez S. cms fedora-ve http://www.fedora-ve.org blog http://blog.gomix.org soporte fedora-ve en irc.freenode.net, canal fedora-ve lista email fedora-ve at googlegroups.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFFF+Gu0XfK1zIFpGQRAsC2AKDC7WQ23mrY4GbIJAj5ZNXe9tFIwACfULRR 7LodEXA39xB9NvUlDMb9lcs= =eo4n -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From hernan.pachas at gmail.com Mon Sep 25 16:03:40 2006 From: hernan.pachas at gmail.com (Hernan Pachas) Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 11:03:40 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Help PERU In-Reply-To: <4517E1AF.8030207@gmail.com> References: <4517E1AF.8030207@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hola Gillermo. Me interesa y ser?a de mucha ayuda, contar con una lista de embajadores en espa?ol. Espero gratas noticias respecto a mi solicitud. Saludos, ---HERNAN Lima-Per? On 9/25/06, "Guillermo G?mez S." wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hernan Pachas wrote: > > Estimados amigos. > > > > Recientemente, me he adicionado al grupo de embajadores de "Fedora > > Project", como embajador de PERU. > > > > El 21 de Octubre se realizar? en Lima.-Per? , un evento[1] muy > > grande en el cu?l muchas distribuciones de Linux estar?n presentes, > > demostrando su operatividad en vivo. Entre las distribuciones que se > > encuentran en la lista se encuentran: > > - OpenSUSE > > - Debian > > - Mandrake > > - Ubuntu. > > > > Cada una de las cuales mostrar?n al p?blico que asista al evento las > > bondades de cada distribuci?n ademas de obsequiar Polos, Dvds, > > llaveros entre otros materiales de merchandesing. > > > > Es por ello que recurro a la lista, para solicitar ayuda en cuanto a > > los materiales de merchandesing que pueda ofrecer para el evento. > > > > Cuanto con un equipo que puede encargarse de esta loable labor. > > > > Esperamos que puedan ayudarnos. > > > > Muchas gracias por la ayuda que puedan brindarnos. > > > > Saludos, > > > > ---Hernan > > Embajador Peru > > > > [1] - Peru Open Source Day - > > http://usmp-lug.usmp.edu.pe/linux/?page_id=31 > > > > English Version > > > > Dear friends. > > > > Recently, I have added the group of ambassadors of "Fedora Project", > > like ambassador of PERU. > > > > The 21 of October will be made in Lima. - Peru, a very great event > > in which many distributions of Linux will be present, demonstrating > > its operativity live. Between the distributions that are in the list > > they find: > > - OpenSUSE - Peru > > - Debian - Peru > > - Mandrake - Peru > > - Ubuntu - Peru > > > > Each one of which they will show the public who attends the event > > kindness of each distribution besides to flatter t-shirt, Dvds, key > > rings among other materials of merchandesing. > > > > It is for that reason that I resort to the list, to ask for aid as > > far as the materials of merchandesing that can offer for the event. > > > > Whatever with an equipment that can be in charge of this > > praiseworthy work. > > > > We hoped that they can help us. > > > > Thank you very much by the aid that can offer us. > > > > Greetings, > > ---Hernan > > > > Peru ambassador > > [1] - Peru Open Source Day - > > http://usmp-lug.usmp.edu.pe/linux/?page_id=31 > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > Hola Hernan > > This list is mainly an english one. I've trying to setup an spanish > community of ambassadors. Pls contact me if interested. > Then we might have a spanish ambassadors email list. > Anyone, again, if interested pls speak up. > > kr > > Guillermo > > - -- > Gomix > Guillermo G?mez S. > cms fedora-ve http://www.fedora-ve.org > blog http://blog.gomix.org > soporte fedora-ve en irc.freenode.net, canal fedora-ve > lista email fedora-ve at googlegroups.com > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQFFF+Gu0XfK1zIFpGQRAsC2AKDC7WQ23mrY4GbIJAj5ZNXe9tFIwACfULRR > 7LodEXA39xB9NvUlDMb9lcs= > =eo4n > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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So if anyone need anything about it, pls let me know asap. kr - -- Gomix Guillermo G?mez S. cms fedora-ve http://www.fedora-ve.org blog http://blog.gomix.org soporte fedora-ve en irc.freenode.net, canal fedora-ve lista email fedora-ve at googlegroups.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFFGAZN0XfK1zIFpGQRAkFkAJ9t8AzBwMH/Y8TmExqOa+ihBjVAGgCdF+bK hDfFg0eEwIMIjYGFohL1mdA= =zeWF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From rodrigopadula at projetofedora.org Tue Sep 26 22:27:02 2006 From: rodrigopadula at projetofedora.org (Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira) Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 19:27:02 -0300 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora in numbers!!! Message-ID: <4519A936.8070701@projetofedora.org> Brazilian surveys about: Desktops and Fedora Core 5. By http://www.projetofedora.org and http://www.fedora.org.br What's your favorite Desktop ? (1100 Fedora Users) Answers | Results () KDE = 46% () GNOME = 49% () OTHERS = 5% What do you think about Fedora Core 5? (400 Fedora Users) Answers | Results () Very Good = 47% () Good = 41% () Regular = 9% () Bad = 1% () Very Bad = 2% Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira M.Sc. at Federal University of Rio de Janeiro Brazilian Fedora Ambassador www.projetofedora.org From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Tue Sep 26 22:32:49 2006 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul) Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 04:02:49 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora in numbers!!! In-Reply-To: <4519A936.8070701@projetofedora.org> References: <4519A936.8070701@projetofedora.org> Message-ID: <4519AA91.3010705@fedoraproject.org> Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira wrote: > Brazilian surveys about: Desktops and Fedora Core 5. > By http://www.projetofedora.org and http://www.fedora.org.br > > What's your favorite Desktop ? (1100 Fedora Users) > Answers | Results > () KDE = 46% > () GNOME = 49% > () OTHERS = 5% > > What do you think about Fedora Core 5? (400 Fedora Users) > Answers | Results > () Very Good = 47% > () Good = 41% > () Regular = 9% > () Bad = 1% > () Very Bad = 2% > Interesting numbers. A more broader sample would be useful. Why is there two different Brazil sites on Fedora? Rahul From chitlesh at fedoraproject.org Tue Sep 26 22:32:51 2006 From: chitlesh at fedoraproject.org (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 00:32:51 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora in numbers!!! In-Reply-To: <4519A936.8070701@projetofedora.org> References: <4519A936.8070701@projetofedora.org> Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0609261532x16466b67u836af59d0cf61af2@mail.gmail.com> On 9/27/06, Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira wrote: > Brazilian surveys about: Desktops and Fedora Core 5. > By http://www.projetofedora.org and http://www.fedora.org.br > > What's your favorite Desktop ? (1100 Fedora Users) > Answers | Results > () KDE = 46% > () GNOME = 49% KDE isn't far behind. We have to consider changing the default theme distributed by Fedora. Chitlesh -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Tue Sep 26 22:35:06 2006 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul) Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 04:05:06 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora in numbers!!! In-Reply-To: <13dbfe4f0609261532x16466b67u836af59d0cf61af2@mail.gmail.com> References: <4519A936.8070701@projetofedora.org> <13dbfe4f0609261532x16466b67u836af59d0cf61af2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4519AB1A.6020507@fedoraproject.org> Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: > On 9/27/06, Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira > wrote: >> Brazilian surveys about: Desktops and Fedora Core 5. >> By http://www.projetofedora.org and http://www.fedora.org.br >> >> What's your favorite Desktop ? (1100 Fedora Users) >> Answers | Results >> () KDE = 46% >> () GNOME = 49% > > KDE isn't far behind. We have to consider changing the default theme > distributed by Fedora. Theme for KDE? GNOME? both? Icons or Window manager? What are the other alternatives recommended? Rahul From fhornain at gmail.com Wed Sep 27 07:07:15 2006 From: fhornain at gmail.com (Frederic Hornain) Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 09:07:15 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Support ? Message-ID: <3161376e0609270007y1d42866duea9165c15ae2a0a7@mail.gmail.com> **Dear *, Yesterday, I talked with one of my client about Fedora and Red Hat and what is the difference between both. Then he explained me what he does with Linux at his company. Indeed, at the begining he was using MySQL on Fedora for little applications without a lot of importance Then with time these applications came bigger and bigger as well as critic for his company. So, now he would like to have a strong support cause he is afraid about problems that he could not resolve in time. So I recommanded him to switch to Red Hat. However, he asked me a question that I was not sure to answer correctly. So I told him that I will look for the right answer and I will give it back. That is the reason of this post. His question was : Ok, Red Hat can offer me supports for its distribution. However, is Red Hat support MySQL which is contained in his distribution or does I have to register at MySQL also to have its specific support? Waiting after your answers, my friends. Thanks in advance for you replies Best Regards Fred -- ----------------------------------------------------- Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com Olpc mailing list olpc-open at laptop.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From siddharth1105 at yahoo.com Wed Sep 27 07:18:25 2006 From: siddharth1105 at yahoo.com (Siddharth Upmanyu) Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 00:18:25 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora in numbers!!! In-Reply-To: <4519AB1A.6020507@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <20060927071825.50473.qmail@web36708.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I too feel that KDE is much more potential desktop then 'G' but the the initial look and feel what the default istall provides is not justifying with the power that KDE can offer... better icons , some initial settings for better performance like precaching if detected large memory and a nice and configured panel will certainly help SiddharthUpmanyu ----- Original Message ---- From: Rahul To: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com Cc: Discussions on expanding the Fedora user base Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 4:05:06 AM Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] Fedora in numbers!!! Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: > On 9/27/06, Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira > wrote: >> Brazilian surveys about: Desktops and Fedora Core 5. >> By http://www.projetofedora.org and http://www.fedora.org.br >> >> What's your favorite Desktop ? (1100 Fedora Users) >> Answers | Results >> () KDE = 46% >> () GNOME = 49% > > KDE isn't far behind. We have to consider changing the default theme > distributed by Fedora. Theme for KDE? GNOME? both? Icons or Window manager? What are the other alternatives recommended? Rahul -- Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Regards, -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung From siddharth1105 at yahoo.com Wed Sep 27 07:37:34 2006 From: siddharth1105 at yahoo.com (Siddharth Upmanyu) Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 00:37:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Free Media Program In-Reply-To: <369bce3b0609270028m577b305egeb53a948d9f71b43@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20060927073734.87949.qmail@web36711.mail.mud.yahoo.com> The Free Media program is very good thing to be expanded... I would like to contribute to this program... by managing expanded media requests in India the increased 250DVD for this month is quite acheivable... Please forard me the no. of media requests we receive from india so that i can hav an idea of the possible requests this month and to decide a number to contribute SiddharthUpmanyu ----- Original Message ---- From: Thomas Chung To: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com Cc: fedora-freemedia-list at redhat.com Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 12:58:45 PM Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Free Media Program Status Report - September 2006 Thanks to Karlie Robinson and other contributors, Fedora Free Media Program have successfully fulfilled 100% of Free Media requests for the month of September 2006. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution/FreeMedia/FC5DVD/September We plan to increase our capacity to 250 DVDs for the month of October 2006. 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URL: From russell at fedoraproject.org Wed Sep 27 07:59:51 2006 From: russell at fedoraproject.org (Russell John) Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 13:59:51 +0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Free Media Program In-Reply-To: <20060927073734.87949.qmail@web36711.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <369bce3b0609270028m577b305egeb53a948d9f71b43@mail.gmail.com> <20060927073734.87949.qmail@web36711.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Check this page for more info: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution/FreeMedia/India On 9/27/06, Siddharth Upmanyu wrote: > > > The Free Media program is very good thing to be expanded... > I would like to contribute to this program... by managing expanded media > requests in India > the increased 250DVD for this month is quite acheivable... > Please forard me the no. of media requests we receive from india so that i > can hav an idea of > the possible requests this month and to decide a number to contribute > > SiddharthUpmanyu > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Thomas Chung > To: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > Cc: fedora-freemedia-list at redhat.com > Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 12:58:45 PM > Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Free Media Program Status Report - September > 2006 > > > Thanks to Karlie Robinson and other contributors, Fedora Free Media > Program have successfully fulfilled 100% of Free Media requests for > the month of September 2006. > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution/FreeMedia/FC5DVD/September > We plan to increase our capacity to 250 DVDs for the month of October 2006. > Regards, > -- > Thomas Chung > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > From thulshof at gmail.com Wed Sep 27 08:54:12 2006 From: thulshof at gmail.com (Thijs Hulshof) Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 10:54:12 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora in numbers!!! In-Reply-To: <4519A936.8070701@projetofedora.org> References: <4519A936.8070701@projetofedora.org> Message-ID: <9590b2a80609270154y67b14d83n4785150e90f3d04f@mail.gmail.com> Interesting! I've also a few numbers about the usage of KDE and Gnome in The Netherlands. Question: Which desktop do you use? (2076 Fedora users) () Gnome 52% () KDE 42% () XFCE 3% () Other 4% These are the results of a poll from a few months ago, on my Dutch Fedora Website, http://www.fedora-linux.nl Regards, Thijs 2006/9/27, Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira : > > Brazilian surveys about: Desktops and Fedora Core 5. > By http://www.projetofedora.org and http://www.fedora.org.br > > What's your favorite Desktop ? (1100 Fedora Users) > Answers | Results > () KDE = 46% > () GNOME = 49% > () OTHERS = 5% > > What do you think about Fedora Core 5? (400 Fedora Users) > Answers | Results > () Very Good = 47% > () Good = 41% > () Regular = 9% > () Bad = 1% > () Very Bad = 2% > > > Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira > M.Sc. at Federal University of Rio de Janeiro > Brazilian Fedora Ambassador > www.projetofedora.org > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Wed Sep 27 10:34:17 2006 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul) Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 16:04:17 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Support ? In-Reply-To: <3161376e0609270007y1d42866duea9165c15ae2a0a7@mail.gmail.com> References: <3161376e0609270007y1d42866duea9165c15ae2a0a7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <451A53A9.40002@fedoraproject.org> Frederic Hornain wrote: > His question was : > Ok, Red Hat can offer me supports for its distribution. > However, is Red Hat support MySQL which is contained in his distribution > or does I have to register at MySQL also to have its specific support? > Waiting after your answers, my friends. > Thanks in advance for you replies > Customers are not required to register at MySQL directly. RHEL provides basic support and the application stack at http://www.redhat.com/solutions/rhappstack/ is available for other requirements. RHEL specific questions on future occasions might be handled offlist. Rahul From rodrigopadula at projetofedora.org Wed Sep 27 13:50:27 2006 From: rodrigopadula at projetofedora.org (rodrigopadula at projetofedora.org) Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 08:50:27 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora in numbers!!! CORRECTION In-Reply-To: <20060927071825.50473.qmail@web36708.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20060927071825.50473.qmail@web36708.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20060927085027.m0u2rnuhoxggcos8@www.projetofedora.org> Sorry, I inverted the result!! The correct result is: What's your favorite Desktop ? (1100 Fedora Users) Answers | Results () KDE = 49% () GNOME = 46% () OTHERS = 5% Rodrigo Padula www.projetofedora.org From chitlesh at fedoraproject.org Wed Sep 27 14:24:23 2006 From: chitlesh at fedoraproject.org (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 16:24:23 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora in numbers!!! CORRECTION In-Reply-To: <20060927085027.m0u2rnuhoxggcos8@www.projetofedora.org> References: <20060927071825.50473.qmail@web36708.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20060927085027.m0u2rnuhoxggcos8@www.projetofedora.org> Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0609270724n40649beet5c9188160c43ef3e@mail.gmail.com> On 9/27/06, rodrigopadula at projetofedora.org wrote: > Sorry, I inverted the result!! > > The correct result is: > > What's your favorite Desktop ? (1100 Fedora Users) > Answers | Results > () KDE = 49% > () GNOME = 46% > () OTHERS = 5% Is it possible to gather more info about the user's choice in terms of KDE window decorator and icon sets ? Chitlesh -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com From rodrigopadula at projetofedora.org Thu Sep 28 01:15:41 2006 From: rodrigopadula at projetofedora.org (Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira) Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 22:15:41 -0300 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora in numbers!!! CORRECTION In-Reply-To: <13dbfe4f0609270724n40649beet5c9188160c43ef3e@mail.gmail.com> References: <20060927071825.50473.qmail@web36708.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20060927085027.m0u2rnuhoxggcos8@www.projetofedora.org> <13dbfe4f0609270724n40649beet5c9188160c43ef3e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <451B223D.6030808@projetofedora.org> Hi Chitlesh!! In Brazil(Fedora Users) the most used confgurations are: Window decoration: Plastik Style: Plastik Icons: Crystal Colors: KDE Defatul This is the best configuration!!! The Fedora KDE defaults are very bad. ASS: Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira Chitlesh GOORAH escreveu: > On 9/27/06, rodrigopadula at projetofedora.org > wrote: >> Sorry, I inverted the result!! >> >> The correct result is: >> >> What's your favorite Desktop ? (1100 Fedora Users) >> Answers | Results >> () KDE = 49% >> () GNOME = 46% >> () OTHERS = 5% > > Is it possible to gather more info about the user's choice in terms of > KDE window decorator and icon sets ? > > > > Chitlesh From david at projetofedora.org Thu Sep 28 15:28:42 2006 From: david at projetofedora.org (David Barzilay) Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 10:28:42 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Help PERU Message-ID: Hi Bob, I'm already in touch with Hernan, handling this personally with him. Hernan, can you please get us those quotations for producing the needed material in Peru. The Brazilian Ambassadors can also provide you with the art for Fedora banners and other materials. Thanks, -- db > David, > > Is there a chance you can help out Hernan, He is in Peru and has an > event coming up in Oct. I personally think this may be a chance for us > to make a splash there. I was trying to help some but the language > barrier was getting in the way. > > Hernan Pachas wrote: > > Hola Gillermo. > > > > > > Me interesa y ser?a de mucha ayuda, contar con una lista de embajadores > > en espa?ol. > > > > Espero gratas noticias respecto a mi solicitud. > > > > Saludos, > > ---HERNAN > > Lima-Per? > > > > On 9/25/06, *"Guillermo G?mez S."* > > wrote: > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > Hernan Pachas wrote: > > > Estimados amigos. > > > > > > Recientemente, me he adicionado al grupo de embajadores de "Fedora > > > Project", como embajador de PERU. > > > > > > El 21 de Octubre se realizar? en Lima.-Per? , un evento[1] muy > > > grande en el cu?l muchas distribuciones de Linux estar?n presentes, > > > demostrando su operatividad en vivo. Entre las distribuciones que se > > > encuentran en la lista se encuentran: > > > - OpenSUSE > > > - Debian > > > - Mandrake > > > - Ubuntu. > > > > > > Cada una de las cuales mostrar?n al p?blico que asista al evento las > > > bondades de cada distribuci?n ademas de obsequiar Polos, Dvds, > > > llaveros entre otros materiales de merchandesing. > > > > > > Es por ello que recurro a la lista, para solicitar ayuda en cuanto a > > > los materiales de merchandesing que pueda ofrecer para el evento. > > > > > > Cuanto con un equipo que puede encargarse de esta loable labor. > > > > > > Esperamos que puedan ayudarnos. > > > > > > Muchas gracias por la ayuda que puedan brindarnos. > > > > > > Saludos, > > > > > > ---Hernan > > > Embajador Peru > > > > > > [1] - Peru Open Source Day - > > > http://usmp-lug.usmp.edu.pe/linux/?page_id=31 > > > > > > English Version > > > > > > Dear friends. > > > > > > Recently, I have added the group of ambassadors of "Fedora Project", > > > like ambassador of PERU. > > > > > > The 21 of October will be made in Lima. - Peru, a very great event > > > in which many distributions of Linux will be present, demonstrating > > > its operativity live. Between the distributions that are in the list > > > they find: > > > - OpenSUSE - Peru > > > - Debian - Peru > > > - Mandrake - Peru > > > - Ubuntu - Peru > > > > > > Each one of which they will show the public who attends the event > > > kindness of each distribution besides to flatter t-shirt, Dvds, key > > > rings among other materials of merchandesing. > > > > > > It is for that reason that I resort to the list, to ask for aid as > > > far as the materials of merchandesing that can offer for the event. > > > > > > Whatever with an equipment that can be in charge of this > > > praiseworthy work. > > > > > > We hoped that they can help us. > > > > > > Thank you very much by the aid that can offer us. > > > > > > Greetings, > > > ---Hernan > > > > > > Peru ambassador > > > [1] - Peru Open Source Day - > > > http://usmp-lug.usmp.edu.pe/linux/?page_id=31 From david at projetofedora.org Thu Sep 28 15:28:23 2006 From: david at projetofedora.org (David Barzilay) Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 10:28:23 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Help PERU Message-ID: Hi Bob, I'm already in touch with Hernan, handling this personally with him. Hernan, can you please get us those quotations for producing the needed material in Peru. The Brazilian Ambassadors can also provide you with the art for Fedora banners and other materials. Thanks, -- db > David, > > Is there a chance you can help out Hernan, He is in Peru and has an > event coming up in Oct. I personally think this may be a chance for us > to make a splash there. I was trying to help some but the language > barrier was getting in the way. > > Hernan Pachas wrote: > > Hola Gillermo. > > > > > > Me interesa y ser?a de mucha ayuda, contar con una lista de embajadores > > en espa?ol. > > > > Espero gratas noticias respecto a mi solicitud. > > > > Saludos, > > ---HERNAN > > Lima-Per? > > > > On 9/25/06, *"Guillermo G?mez S."* > > wrote: > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > Hernan Pachas wrote: > > > Estimados amigos. > > > > > > Recientemente, me he adicionado al grupo de embajadores de "Fedora > > > Project", como embajador de PERU. > > > > > > El 21 de Octubre se realizar? en Lima.-Per? , un evento[1] muy > > > grande en el cu?l muchas distribuciones de Linux estar?n presentes, > > > demostrando su operatividad en vivo. Entre las distribuciones que se > > > encuentran en la lista se encuentran: > > > - OpenSUSE > > > - Debian > > > - Mandrake > > > - Ubuntu. > > > > > > Cada una de las cuales mostrar?n al p?blico que asista al evento las > > > bondades de cada distribuci?n ademas de obsequiar Polos, Dvds, > > > llaveros entre otros materiales de merchandesing. > > > > > > Es por ello que recurro a la lista, para solicitar ayuda en cuanto a > > > los materiales de merchandesing que pueda ofrecer para el evento. > > > > > > Cuanto con un equipo que puede encargarse de esta loable labor. > > > > > > Esperamos que puedan ayudarnos. > > > > > > Muchas gracias por la ayuda que puedan brindarnos. > > > > > > Saludos, > > > > > > ---Hernan > > > Embajador Peru > > > > > > [1] - Peru Open Source Day - > > > http://usmp-lug.usmp.edu.pe/linux/?page_id=31 > > > > > > English Version > > > > > > Dear friends. > > > > > > Recently, I have added the group of ambassadors of "Fedora Project", > > > like ambassador of PERU. > > > > > > The 21 of October will be made in Lima. - Peru, a very great event > > > in which many distributions of Linux will be present, demonstrating > > > its operativity live. Between the distributions that are in the list > > > they find: > > > - OpenSUSE - Peru > > > - Debian - Peru > > > - Mandrake - Peru > > > - Ubuntu - Peru > > > > > > Each one of which they will show the public who attends the event > > > kindness of each distribution besides to flatter t-shirt, Dvds, key > > > rings among other materials of merchandesing. > > > > > > It is for that reason that I resort to the list, to ask for aid as > > > far as the materials of merchandesing that can offer for the event. > > > > > > Whatever with an equipment that can be in charge of this > > > praiseworthy work. > > > > > > We hoped that they can help us. > > > > > > Thank you very much by the aid that can offer us. > > > > > > Greetings, > > > ---Hernan > > > > > > Peru ambassador > > > [1] - Peru Open Source Day - > > > http://usmp-lug.usmp.edu.pe/linux/?page_id=31 From david at projetofedora.org Thu Sep 28 15:28:49 2006 From: david at projetofedora.org (David Barzilay) Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 10:28:49 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Help PERU Message-ID: Hi Bob, I'm already in touch with Hernan, handling this personally with him. Hernan, can you please get us those quotations for producing the needed material in Peru. The Brazilian Ambassadors can also provide you with the art for Fedora banners and other materials. Thanks, -- db > David, > > Is there a chance you can help out Hernan, He is in Peru and has an > event coming up in Oct. I personally think this may be a chance for us > to make a splash there. I was trying to help some but the language > barrier was getting in the way. > > Hernan Pachas wrote: > > Hola Gillermo. > > > > > > Me interesa y ser?a de mucha ayuda, contar con una lista de embajadores > > en espa?ol. > > > > Espero gratas noticias respecto a mi solicitud. > > > > Saludos, > > ---HERNAN > > Lima-Per? > > > > On 9/25/06, *"Guillermo G?mez S."* > > wrote: > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > Hernan Pachas wrote: > > > Estimados amigos. > > > > > > Recientemente, me he adicionado al grupo de embajadores de "Fedora > > > Project", como embajador de PERU. > > > > > > El 21 de Octubre se realizar? en Lima.-Per? , un evento[1] muy > > > grande en el cu?l muchas distribuciones de Linux estar?n presentes, > > > demostrando su operatividad en vivo. Entre las distribuciones que se > > > encuentran en la lista se encuentran: > > > - OpenSUSE > > > - Debian > > > - Mandrake > > > - Ubuntu. > > > > > > Cada una de las cuales mostrar?n al p?blico que asista al evento las > > > bondades de cada distribuci?n ademas de obsequiar Polos, Dvds, > > > llaveros entre otros materiales de merchandesing. > > > > > > Es por ello que recurro a la lista, para solicitar ayuda en cuanto a > > > los materiales de merchandesing que pueda ofrecer para el evento. > > > > > > Cuanto con un equipo que puede encargarse de esta loable labor. > > > > > > Esperamos que puedan ayudarnos. > > > > > > Muchas gracias por la ayuda que puedan brindarnos. > > > > > > Saludos, > > > > > > ---Hernan > > > Embajador Peru > > > > > > [1] - Peru Open Source Day - > > > http://usmp-lug.usmp.edu.pe/linux/?page_id=31 > > > > > > English Version > > > > > > Dear friends. > > > > > > Recently, I have added the group of ambassadors of "Fedora Project", > > > like ambassador of PERU. > > > > > > The 21 of October will be made in Lima. - Peru, a very great event > > > in which many distributions of Linux will be present, demonstrating > > > its operativity live. Between the distributions that are in the list > > > they find: > > > - OpenSUSE - Peru > > > - Debian - Peru > > > - Mandrake - Peru > > > - Ubuntu - Peru > > > > > > Each one of which they will show the public who attends the event > > > kindness of each distribution besides to flatter t-shirt, Dvds, key > > > rings among other materials of merchandesing. > > > > > > It is for that reason that I resort to the list, to ask for aid as > > > far as the materials of merchandesing that can offer for the event. > > > > > > Whatever with an equipment that can be in charge of this > > > praiseworthy work. > > > > > > We hoped that they can help us. > > > > > > Thank you very much by the aid that can offer us. > > > > > > Greetings, > > > ---Hernan > > > > > > Peru ambassador > > > [1] - Peru Open Source Day - > > > http://usmp-lug.usmp.edu.pe/linux/?page_id=31 From marketing-list at fedoralinks.org Thu Sep 28 15:13:59 2006 From: marketing-list at fedoralinks.org (Robert 'Bob' Jensen) Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 10:13:59 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Help PERU In-Reply-To: References: <4517E1AF.8030207@gmail.com> Message-ID: <451BE6B7.4030808@fedoralinks.org> David, Is there a chance you can help out Hernan, He is in Peru and has an event coming up in Oct. I personally think this may be a chance for us to make a splash there. I was trying to help some but the language barrier was getting in the way. Hernan Pachas wrote: > Hola Gillermo. > > > Me interesa y ser?a de mucha ayuda, contar con una lista de embajadores > en espa?ol. > > Espero gratas noticias respecto a mi solicitud. > > Saludos, > ---HERNAN > Lima-Per? > > On 9/25/06, *"Guillermo G?mez S."* > wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hernan Pachas wrote: > > Estimados amigos. > > > > Recientemente, me he adicionado al grupo de embajadores de "Fedora > > Project", como embajador de PERU. > > > > El 21 de Octubre se realizar? en Lima.-Per? , un evento[1] muy > > grande en el cu?l muchas distribuciones de Linux estar?n presentes, > > demostrando su operatividad en vivo. Entre las distribuciones que se > > encuentran en la lista se encuentran: > > - OpenSUSE > > - Debian > > - Mandrake > > - Ubuntu. > > > > Cada una de las cuales mostrar?n al p?blico que asista al evento las > > bondades de cada distribuci?n ademas de obsequiar Polos, Dvds, > > llaveros entre otros materiales de merchandesing. > > > > Es por ello que recurro a la lista, para solicitar ayuda en cuanto a > > los materiales de merchandesing que pueda ofrecer para el evento. > > > > Cuanto con un equipo que puede encargarse de esta loable labor. > > > > Esperamos que puedan ayudarnos. > > > > Muchas gracias por la ayuda que puedan brindarnos. > > > > Saludos, > > > > ---Hernan > > Embajador Peru > > > > [1] - Peru Open Source Day - > > http://usmp-lug.usmp.edu.pe/linux/?page_id=31 > > > > English Version > > > > Dear friends. > > > > Recently, I have added the group of ambassadors of "Fedora Project", > > like ambassador of PERU. > > > > The 21 of October will be made in Lima. - Peru, a very great event > > in which many distributions of Linux will be present, demonstrating > > its operativity live. Between the distributions that are in the list > > they find: > > - OpenSUSE - Peru > > - Debian - Peru > > - Mandrake - Peru > > - Ubuntu - Peru > > > > Each one of which they will show the public who attends the event > > kindness of each distribution besides to flatter t-shirt, Dvds, key > > rings among other materials of merchandesing. > > > > It is for that reason that I resort to the list, to ask for aid as > > far as the materials of merchandesing that can offer for the event. > > > > Whatever with an equipment that can be in charge of this > > praiseworthy work. > > > > We hoped that they can help us. > > > > Thank you very much by the aid that can offer us. > > > > Greetings, > > ---Hernan > > > > Peru ambassador > > [1] - Peru Open Source Day - > > http://usmp-lug.usmp.edu.pe/linux/?page_id=31 > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > Hola Hernan > > This list is mainly an english one. I've trying to setup an spanish > community of ambassadors. Pls contact me if interested. > Then we might have a spanish ambassadors email list. > Anyone, again, if interested pls speak up. > > kr > > Guillermo > > - -- > Gomix > Guillermo G?mez S. > cms fedora-ve http://www.fedora-ve.org > blog http://blog.gomix.org > soporte fedora-ve en irc.freenode.net , > canal fedora-ve > lista email fedora-ve at googlegroups.com > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQFFF+Gu0XfK1zIFpGQRAsC2AKDC7WQ23mrY4GbIJAj5ZNXe9tFIwACfULRR > 7LodEXA39xB9NvUlDMb9lcs= > =eo4n > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list -- Robert 'Bob' Jensen * * http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BobJensen gpg fingerprint: F9F4 7243 4243 0043 2C45 97AF E8A4 C3AE 42EB 0BC6 Fedora Marketing Projects * * Fedora Ambassadors Steering Committee From heiko.adams at gmx.de Thu Sep 28 19:00:08 2006 From: heiko.adams at gmx.de (Heiko Adams) Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 21:00:08 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Introduction Message-ID: <20060928210008.1d7c99c5@localhost.localdomain> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi Folks, I'm new to the fedora ambassador program and I just wanted to make a short introduction of myself: I'm a 25 years old professional software developer from Coburg/Germany and webmaster of a German fedora core blog which is located at http://www.fedora-blog.de I've entered this program because I think that fedora is one of the best Linux distributions available and want to help making fedora more popular. Regards Heiko -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFFHBu9Fs/JPNR65YARAqhYAJ4/OZDFBQKLz2TybxyZ9zTJ6rMhzgCePBtC 2fsioaHn+TUF8KrRjpEAPuQ= =N4mA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Thu Sep 28 19:05:42 2006 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 00:35:42 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Introduction In-Reply-To: <20060928210008.1d7c99c5@localhost.localdomain> References: <20060928210008.1d7c99c5@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <451C1D06.4050505@fedoraproject.org> Heiko Adams wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hi Folks, > I'm new to the fedora ambassador program and I just wanted to make a > short introduction of myself: > > I'm a 25 years old professional software developer from Coburg/Germany > and webmaster of a German fedora core blog which is located at > http://www.fedora-blog.de > I've entered this program because I think that fedora is one of the > best Linux distributions available and want to help making fedora more > popular. Excellent. Welcome to the Fedora Ambassadors Project. If you have a blog you can join the planet. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Planet Rahul From chitlesh at fedoraproject.org Thu Sep 28 19:19:46 2006 From: chitlesh at fedoraproject.org (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 21:19:46 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Introduction In-Reply-To: <20060928210008.1d7c99c5@localhost.localdomain> References: <20060928210008.1d7c99c5@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0609281219u292711cbpb9d074fb74716f52@mail.gmail.com> On 9/28/06, Heiko Adams wrote: > I'm a 25 years old professional software developer from Coburg/Germany Good to hear, more contributors from Germany :) Chitlesh -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com From siddharth1105 at yahoo.com Fri Sep 29 05:49:17 2006 From: siddharth1105 at yahoo.com (Siddharth Upmanyu) Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 22:49:17 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Ambassadors] To update the Ambassadors Meeting Wiki Page Message-ID: <20060929054917.6173.qmail@web36714.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi Ambassadors.. If anyone is having Meeting log for 28th Sept please update it on the wiki page Siddharth -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cyberluk at seznam.cz Fri Sep 29 06:25:26 2006 From: cyberluk at seznam.cz (Luke Satin) Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 08:25:26 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Introduction Message-ID: <1159511126.2148.24.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hi! I'm new here too, so let me introduce myself: I'm a 19 years old software developer based Ostrava, Czech Republic. I'm also a member of OSS Alliance organisation (www.oss.cz) - OSS provides open-source support mainly for the Czech government. It's goal is to replace proprietary document formats such as MS Word with OpenDocument Format which has been approved as an ISO norm recently. Replacing few proprietary desktop apps with opensource ones is the first step to Linux. There is also a Czech Wiki page about Fedora Core project: http://www.fedora.cz/ Besides that, I'm also project manager and lead developer of opensource PHP5.1 WEB 2.0 framework http://sourceforge.net/projects/elitecore I have many ideas about Fedora and how to improve desktop, should I post it here too or somewhere to dev-mailing list? I use GNOME, but users probably likes KDE more, because it's easier to use. You can change everything in the Control Center and there's more eye-candy effects than in GNOME, you can also customize toolbars more in KDE. Fedora 5 has the biggest number of bugs, I've seen in Fedora. After the first boot, I had to disable HWCursor in xorg.conf, disable ACPI to not have any IRQ conflicts on NVIDIA based board (n-force chipset with net,sound and video) - It wasn't hard, but it took a week or so and I think that ordinary users doesn't even know what 'console' or 'terminal' means. -- Regards, Luke Satin -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Fri Sep 29 06:49:49 2006 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 12:19:49 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Introduction In-Reply-To: <1159511126.2148.24.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1159511126.2148.24.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <451CC20D.7010008@fedoraproject.org> Luke Satin wrote: > Hi! > I'm new here too, so let me introduce myself: > I'm a 19 years old software developer based Ostrava, Czech Republic. Welcome. > > I'm also a member of OSS Alliance organisation (www.oss.cz > ) - OSS provides > open-source support mainly for the Czech government. It's goal is to > replace proprietary document formats > such as MS Word with OpenDocument Format which has been approved as an > ISO norm recently. Replacing few > proprietary desktop apps with opensource ones is the first step to Linux. > > There is also a Czech Wiki page about Fedora Core project: > http://www.fedora.cz/ > This one is listed in http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/CommunityWebsites. > Besides that, I'm also project manager and lead developer of opensource > PHP5.1 WEB 2.0 framework http://sourceforge.net/projects/elitecore > Doesnt seem to be in Fedora. Might submit it in Fedora Extras. Refer to http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras for detailed guidelines on this. > I have many ideas about Fedora and how to improve desktop, should I post > it here too or somewhere to dev-mailing list? If there are straight forward enhancement requests, file them against the appropriate components in http://bugzilla.redhat.com. If they are general developer ideas that require more discussion, post to fedora-devel list. > I use GNOME, but users probably likes KDE more, because it's easier to > use. You can change everything in the Control Center and there's more > eye-candy effects than in GNOME, you can also customize toolbars more in > KDE. We offer these and many more. So users have a choice. > Fedora 5 has the biggest number of bugs, I've seen in Fedora. After the > first boot, I had to disable HWCursor in xorg.conf, disable ACPI to not > have any IRQ conflicts on NVIDIA based board (n-force chipset with > net,sound and video) - It wasn't hard, but it took a week or so and I > think that ordinary users doesn't even know what 'console' or 'terminal' > means. Thats quite contrary to the usual feedback we have seen. For example, https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2006-June/msg00006.html. I myself have been using Fedora Core 5 for all my work exclusively. (Typing this in a FC5 system) and the release in my personal experience has been the best so far. Do others here have widely different ideas about this release? Unfortunate that you have been running into bugs. Have you filed them in http://bugzilla.redhat.com? Rahul From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Fri Sep 29 07:02:57 2006 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 12:32:57 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Introduction In-Reply-To: <1159511126.2148.24.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1159511126.2148.24.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <451CC521.7010608@fedoraproject.org> Luke Satin wrote: > Hi! > I'm new here too, so let me introduce myself: > I'm a 19 years old software developer based Ostrava, Czech Republic. > > I'm also a member of OSS Alliance organisation (www.oss.cz > ) - OSS provides > open-source support mainly for the Czech government. It's goal is to > replace proprietary document formats > such as MS Word with OpenDocument Format which has been approved as an > ISO norm recently. Replacing few > proprietary desktop apps with opensource ones is the first step to Linux. > Oh, forgot to add this. Getting open formats such as Open Document as a standard in government agencies has far reaching implications much more that merely a Windows to Linux transition. The assurance that data generated through tax payer's money is always stored in a format that is available for the public, easily retrieved decades from now and easily indexed etc is extremely critical for common welfare. Red Hat has a few notes on this subject http://www.redhat.com/magazine/020jun06/features/video_szulik/ http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,1819239,00.asp I believe more is on the pipeline. One of the recent interesting changes is the move to supply a web browser extension for the ODF format. Rahul From cyberluk at seznam.cz Fri Sep 29 07:11:57 2006 From: cyberluk at seznam.cz (Luke Satin) Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 09:11:57 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Introduction In-Reply-To: <451CC521.7010608@fedoraproject.org> References: <1159511126.2148.24.camel@localhost.localdomain> <451CC521.7010608@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <1159513917.3325.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> "I believe more is on the pipeline. One of the recent interesting changes is the move to supply a web browser extension for the ODF format." Yes - that would be good if a browser could read ODF as Firefox can read PDF. I did also a PHP5 extension that converts ODT to XHTML+CSS, so it can be used in content managemen systems, on the blogs, etc. It's not 100% done yet, but it works well, I'll contribute it to OpenOffice.org soon. -- Regards, Luke Satin -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lxmaier at gmail.com Fri Sep 29 11:46:28 2006 From: lxmaier at gmail.com (Alex Maier) Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 07:46:28 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] To update the Ambassadors Meeting Wiki Page In-Reply-To: <20060929054917.6173.qmail@web36714.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20060929054917.6173.qmail@web36714.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <7f617d270609290446j4aa04294pf596314ed8882090@mail.gmail.com> Siddharth, I think you just volunteered to do it yourself :) I have a log, and we'd all appreciate your help in condensing it to a summary and posting on the wiki, as usual. Let me know, and I will send you the log! Cheers, a On 9/29/06, Siddharth Upmanyu wrote: > > > Hi Ambassadors.. > If anyone is having Meeting log for 28th Sept please update it on the wiki > page > > Siddharth > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > -- Alex Maier http://amaier.net From siddharth1105 at yahoo.com Fri Sep 29 18:55:33 2006 From: siddharth1105 at yahoo.com (Siddharth Upmanyu) Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 11:55:33 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Ambassadors] Event Proposal... need suggestions Message-ID: <20060929185533.50572.qmail@web36714.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Pune (India) hosts countrys most dence engineering population in large number of engineering colleges... and each of the instituation usually helds a technical fest each year in jan-march months which lasts for around 3-6 days... ( http://www.bharatiyam.net/ will give you an idea i made this website ) there are around 15 major events covering thousands of participations.... now what i propose is to organise a linux confrence/fest during this time with events like 1. coding (c/perl/...) 2. artwork/look&feel (best customised desktop) 3. oss-made-desktop (best collections of oss packages to make pass general usability tests) 4. seminars on various oss topics 5. helpdesks and likewise now the output of these events will provide informations like how people want and manages their linux desktops... the coding events will make familar the power tools and thus encourage people to use them... (all the events using latest Fedora Core version avalible on the date) the events promises large contributions from students ... prizes in form of various things like freebies and cash can be provided .... looking forward to your reply.. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From marketing-list at fedoralinks.org Fri Sep 29 19:36:52 2006 From: marketing-list at fedoralinks.org (Robert 'Bob' Jensen) Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 14:36:52 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Help PERU In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <451D75D4.4070609@fedoralinks.org> David Barzilay wrote: > Hi Bob, > > I'm already in touch with Hernan, handling this personally with him. > > Hernan, can you please get us those quotations for producing the needed > material in Peru. > > The Brazilian Ambassadors can also provide you with the art for Fedora > banners and other materials. > > Thanks, > -- > db > >> David, >> >> Is there a chance you can help out Hernan, He is in Peru and has an >> event coming up in Oct. I personally think this may be a chance for us >> to make a splash there. I was trying to help some but the language >> barrier was getting in the way. >> >> Hernan Pachas wrote: >>> Hola Gillermo. >>> >>> >>> Me interesa y ser?a de mucha ayuda, contar con una lista de embajadores >>> en espa?ol. >>> >>> Espero gratas noticias respecto a mi solicitud. >>> >>> Saludos, >>> ---HERNAN >>> Lima-Per? >>> >>> On 9/25/06, *"Guillermo G?mez S."* >> > wrote: >>> >>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >>> Hash: SHA1 >>> >>> Hernan Pachas wrote: >>> > Estimados amigos. >>> > >>> > Recientemente, me he adicionado al grupo de embajadores de > "Fedora >>> > Project", como embajador de PERU. >>> > >>> > El 21 de Octubre se realizar? en Lima.-Per? , un evento[1] muy >>> > grande en el cu?l muchas distribuciones de Linux estar?n > presentes, >>> > demostrando su operatividad en vivo. Entre las distribuciones > que se >>> > encuentran en la lista se encuentran: >>> > - OpenSUSE >>> > - Debian >>> > - Mandrake >>> > - Ubuntu. >>> > >>> > Cada una de las cuales mostrar?n al p?blico que asista al > evento las >>> > bondades de cada distribuci?n ademas de obsequiar Polos, Dvds, >>> > llaveros entre otros materiales de merchandesing. >>> > >>> > Es por ello que recurro a la lista, para solicitar ayuda en > cuanto a >>> > los materiales de merchandesing que pueda ofrecer para el evento. >>> > >>> > Cuanto con un equipo que puede encargarse de esta loable labor. >>> > >>> > Esperamos que puedan ayudarnos. >>> > >>> > Muchas gracias por la ayuda que puedan brindarnos. >>> > >>> > Saludos, >>> > >>> > ---Hernan >>> > Embajador Peru >>> > >>> > [1] - Peru Open Source Day - >>> > http://usmp-lug.usmp.edu.pe/linux/?page_id=31 >>> > >>> > English Version >>> > >>> > Dear friends. >>> > >>> > Recently, I have added the group of ambassadors of "Fedora > Project", >>> > like ambassador of PERU. >>> > >>> > The 21 of October will be made in Lima. - Peru, a very great > event >>> > in which many distributions of Linux will be present, > demonstrating >>> > its operativity live. Between the distributions that are in > the list >>> > they find: >>> > - OpenSUSE - Peru >>> > - Debian - Peru >>> > - Mandrake - Peru >>> > - Ubuntu - Peru >>> > >>> > Each one of which they will show the public who attends the event >>> > kindness of each distribution besides to flatter t-shirt, > Dvds, key >>> > rings among other materials of merchandesing. >>> > >>> > It is for that reason that I resort to the list, to ask for > aid as >>> > far as the materials of merchandesing that can offer for the > event. >>> > >>> > Whatever with an equipment that can be in charge of this >>> > praiseworthy work. >>> > >>> > We hoped that they can help us. >>> > >>> > Thank you very much by the aid that can offer us. >>> > >>> > Greetings, >>> > ---Hernan >>> > >>> > Peru ambassador >>> > [1] - Peru Open Source Day - >>> > http://usmp-lug.usmp.edu.pe/linux/?page_id=31 Thanks for your help with this Barz BobJensen -- Robert 'Bob' Jensen * * http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BobJensen gpg fingerprint: F9F4 7243 4243 0043 2C45 97AF E8A4 C3AE 42EB 0BC6 Fedora Marketing Projects * * Fedora Ambassadors Steering Committee From david at projetofedora.org Fri Sep 29 19:40:07 2006 From: david at projetofedora.org (David Barzilay) Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 14:40:07 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Help PERU Message-ID: No worries, Bob! It's a pleasure to extend a helping hand to our neighbours. Hernan, still awaiting your reply. Best to you all, -- db > David Barzilay wrote: > > Hi Bob, > > > > I'm already in touch with Hernan, handling this personally with him. > > > > Hernan, can you please get us those quotations for producing the needed > > material in Peru. > > > > The Brazilian Ambassadors can also provide you with the art for Fedora > > banners and other materials. > > > > Thanks, > > -- > > db > > > >> David, > >> > >> Is there a chance you can help out Hernan, He is in Peru and has an > >> event coming up in Oct. I personally think this may be a chance for us > >> to make a splash there. I was trying to help some but the language > >> barrier was getting in the way. > >> > >> Hernan Pachas wrote: > >>> Hola Gillermo. > >>> > >>> > >>> Me interesa y ser?a de mucha ayuda, contar con una lista de embajadores > >>> en espa?ol. > >>> > >>> Espero gratas noticias respecto a mi solicitud. > >>> > >>> Saludos, > >>> ---HERNAN > >>> Lima-Per? > >>> > >>> On 9/25/06, *"Guillermo G?mez S."* >>> > wrote: > >>> > >>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > >>> Hash: SHA1 > >>> > >>> Hernan Pachas wrote: > >>> > Estimados amigos. > >>> > > >>> > Recientemente, me he adicionado al grupo de embajadores de > > "Fedora > >>> > Project", como embajador de PERU. > >>> > > >>> > El 21 de Octubre se realizar? en Lima.-Per? , un evento[1] muy > >>> > grande en el cu?l muchas distribuciones de Linux estar?n > > presentes, > >>> > demostrando su operatividad en vivo. Entre las distribuciones > > que se > >>> > encuentran en la lista se encuentran: > >>> > - OpenSUSE > >>> > - Debian > >>> > - Mandrake > >>> > - Ubuntu. > >>> > > >>> > Cada una de las cuales mostrar?n al p?blico que asista al > > evento las > >>> > bondades de cada distribuci?n ademas de obsequiar Polos, Dvds, > >>> > llaveros entre otros materiales de merchandesing. > >>> > > >>> > Es por ello que recurro a la lista, para solicitar ayuda en > > cuanto a > >>> > los materiales de merchandesing que pueda ofrecer para el evento. > >>> > > >>> > Cuanto con un equipo que puede encargarse de esta loable labor. > >>> > > >>> > Esperamos que puedan ayudarnos. > >>> > > >>> > Muchas gracias por la ayuda que puedan brindarnos. > >>> > > >>> > Saludos, > >>> > > >>> > ---Hernan > >>> > Embajador Peru > >>> > > >>> > [1] - Peru Open Source Day - > >>> > http://usmp-lug.usmp.edu.pe/linux/?page_id=31 > >>> > > >>> > English Version > >>> > > >>> > Dear friends. > >>> > > >>> > Recently, I have added the group of ambassadors of "Fedora > > Project", > >>> > like ambassador of PERU. > >>> > > >>> > The 21 of October will be made in Lima. - Peru, a very great > > event > >>> > in which many distributions of Linux will be present, > > demonstrating > >>> > its operativity live. Between the distributions that are in > > the list > >>> > they find: > >>> > - OpenSUSE - Peru > >>> > - Debian - Peru > >>> > - Mandrake - Peru > >>> > - Ubuntu - Peru > >>> > > >>> > Each one of which they will show the public who attends the event > >>> > kindness of each distribution besides to flatter t-shirt, > > Dvds, key > >>> > rings among other materials of merchandesing. > >>> > > >>> > It is for that reason that I resort to the list, to ask for > > aid as > >>> > far as the materials of merchandesing that can offer for the > > event. > >>> > > >>> > Whatever with an equipment that can be in charge of this > >>> > praiseworthy work. > >>> > > >>> > We hoped that they can help us. > >>> > > >>> > Thank you very much by the aid that can offer us. > >>> > > >>> > Greetings, > >>> > ---Hernan > >>> > > >>> > Peru ambassador > >>> > [1] - Peru Open Source Day - > >>> > http://usmp-lug.usmp.edu.pe/linux/?page_id=31 > > Thanks for your help with this Barz > BobJensen > -- > Robert 'Bob' Jensen * * http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BobJensen > gpg fingerprint: F9F4 7243 4243 0043 2C45 97AF E8A4 C3AE 42EB 0BC6 > Fedora Marketing Projects * * Fedora Ambassadors Steering Committee > From linuxdominatrix at gmail.com Sat Sep 30 16:08:24 2006 From: linuxdominatrix at gmail.com (Rohan Dighe) Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 21:38:24 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Event Proposal... need suggestions In-Reply-To: <20060929185533.50572.qmail@web36714.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20060929185533.50572.qmail@web36714.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8f6eaac0609300908n13c54ec1ica3a304f34be23a0@mail.gmail.com> > Hello! Well, i am an engineering student too and i have attended your fest almost every year ! The idea looks quite alright to me. I will provide you my full support ! I don't stay too far from the college either. The competitions & seminars that you are talking about are really good and will really help a lot of people to know about FEDORA. Well, Stuff like providing "HELPDESK" and stuff usually help a lot because students came just come to the desk and find out more info or a solution to a certain problem! Let me know your future plans. Rohan Dighe. Fedora Ambassador India, Pune. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/RohanDighe