[Ambassadors] Active/Inactive Ambassadors+task+some idea

Francesco Ugolini francesco.ugolini at fedoraproject.org
Tue Apr 10 09:43:33 UTC 2007


Sorry, but first to say such things read all the 80s or more posts. I
never say kick of people. If you have read the last proposal we talked
only to mark active, people who work, no more. So ....



Justin M Bisted ha scritto:
> Hey thanks Thomas for stepping in on this
> 
> You know we all know this is a big deal and none of use want to be
> kicked out but if this is a real issue and fedora really wants to do
> this inactive thing then we should figure something out so we all can
> figure out what we want to do instead of freeking out
> 
> Any thoughts??
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Thomas Chung wrote:
>> On 4/9/07, Greg Dekoenigsberg <gdk at redhat.com> wrote:
>>> On Sat, 7 Apr 2007, Francesco Ugolini wrote:
>>>
>>> > Stay sure, we don't want to "kill" people, we know the different needs
>>> > of each ambassador. We want to shake people that do nothing.
>>>
>>> Why?
>>>
>>> Why do we want to "shake people that do nothing"?  What harm do they do?
>>> And what's to say that someone who does nothing today won't be
>>> someone who
>>> does something vitally important later?  And what's your threshhold for
>>> "activity" -- somebody says "I'm active"?
>>>
>>> The *only* effect of *any* inactivity policy will be to announce to
>>> people, "we don't want you, go away."
>>>
>>> My $0.02: once somebody says "I am a Fedora ambassador," then they are a
>>> Fedora ambassador, FOR LIFE.  Until (a) they say "no thanks, I'm not an
>>> ambassador anymore," or (b) they do something that disgraces Fedora, and
>>> FAMSCO drums them out.
>>>
>>> =====
>>>
>>> So let me back up and ask a question.  What's the *real* goal here?
>>>
>>> Is the goal to recognize our best ambassadors?
>>>
>>> Is the goal to know who can be "counted upon" to get stuff done?
>>>
>>> What are we trying to accomplish with the active/inactive proposal?
>>>
>>> --g
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Greg DeKoenigsberg
>>> Community Development Manager
>>> Red Hat, Inc. :: 1-919-754-4255
>>> "To whomsoever much hath been given...
>>> ...from him much shall be asked"
>>
>>
>> All,
>>
>> I'm sorry I was away from this whole discussion.
>> It's time for me to step in stop this once for all.
>>
>> Yes, Greg is *absolutely* correct. This entire discussion is not
>> helping our project but tearing us apart. I even noticed some of us
>> planning to leave the project because this discussion.
>>
>> I *urge* you stop this non-productive proposal and I would to hear
>> more productive ideas.
>> Please consider this is my last call to end this discussion.
>>
>> Fedora Ambassadors Steering Committee Chair
> 
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